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Vintage vs. Reproduction, a 1950's Dress Pattern comparison || Simplicity 1849 vs S9849

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Stephanie Canada

Stephanie Canada

Ай бұрын

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"Are vintage and AUTHENTIC reproduction patterns the same?". The next in this series I call Vintage vs. Reproduction, is a glorious 1950's empire waist fit and flare or sheath dress pattern. I will be comparing this original 1950's vintage sewing pattern to its modern reproduction by the same company, Simplicity 1849 versus Simplicity S9849.
I have been a vintage pattern seller for 10 years and have always been asked, why I don't like the reproduction patterns. I knew they used block patterns to adjust the vintage patterns. I knew they looked at only the front covers and guessed on the rest, but now I want to put them to the test.
This sewing pattern review is meant to help you make the reproduction sewing pattern if you want to make it look more original to the vintage, or to help you decide if the reproduction is even worth purchasing.
Will this be another vintage reproduction pattern rant?
I am doing this series so that everyone can see which vintage reproduction patterns are worth your time and money, and which belong in the dumpster.
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@SewRena
@SewRena Ай бұрын
Lmao the modern is trash all b/c of those darts and the underarm I did in fact get stuck in the dress and had my poor kids panicked to save me 😂
@therewillbecatswithgwenhwyfar
@therewillbecatswithgwenhwyfar Ай бұрын
Oh no!!!! 😂😂😂😂
@user-xd2ml8dn9h
@user-xd2ml8dn9h Ай бұрын
Oh dear 😂
@colin5227
@colin5227 Ай бұрын
That sucks! Aw
@LuvMyCardiKids
@LuvMyCardiKids Ай бұрын
Oh no! That’s crazy! What is the pattern company thinking? Not a lot I don’t think. I just made a bag off a simplicity pattern and had to alter the pattern before I made it so the pieces of the bag would actually fit together. And the pattern piece for a separate cover wasn’t even big enough to hold what it was being made to hold. That piece I had to enlarge 1” in width and 1.5” in length for it to hold the item it said it was for. It’s gotten to where you have to check everything before you even mock up! So nuts. There’s absolutely no quality control anymore.
@susanowen1709
@susanowen1709 Ай бұрын
I have had literal nightmares about getting stuck in clothing. I'm sorry that happened to you, especially after you put all that work into making the dress.
@gabrielles1851
@gabrielles1851 Ай бұрын
Yeah that's why I go right in and sew the closure that serves me rather than what they think I need. The beauty of sewing is looking at the instructions and saying, "Nope I don't think I will."😄
@windyhawthorn7387
@windyhawthorn7387 5 күн бұрын
I sew with my mom she says nope I'm not doing that a lot. I don't think you could get her to sew something completely following a pattern. I think the last time she did that was home economics and she was mad that the teacher made her do so. She made one according to the pattern and then she made one according to how she was taught by her grandma. One looked better then the other and that was her point.
@mvrooks
@mvrooks Ай бұрын
thank you for diving deeply into the mechanics of this pattern. also, it is hilarious to hear SewRena swearing! In my mind, she is always perfect and never swears.
@brandonspriggs7717
@brandonspriggs7717 Ай бұрын
Same lol
@susanrussell8195
@susanrussell8195 10 күн бұрын
Me too
@fredrika27
@fredrika27 Ай бұрын
Everything you said about the patterns is true. When I took home economics, despite careful measurements and reading the instructions, the finished product never fit well. Unfortunately, we didn't have enough time innclass to make a mockup nor were our teachers expert enough to explain to us how to change a pattern to make it fit. Just wasted time and money. For those girls with perfect figures, they got the better grades not because they were better seamstresses, but because the end product fit them better. What I would do is buy the pattern I wanted and several yards of burlap or cheap polyster to practice on over the summer. This way I got a good grade because the pattern fit me--no thanks to the pattern makers and teachers, but because I took the initiative myself.
@haplessasshole9615
@haplessasshole9615 8 күн бұрын
I'm very short-waisted and have zero hips, so the A-line skirts we made in 7th grade and the simple dresses in 8th were proportioned _completely_ wrong for me. My mother (a 4th degree black belt seamstress) admitted as much, but said it was _my_ fault for getting a C in both classes. And she was a teacher. Sheesh.
@iamvergingonvintage
@iamvergingonvintage Ай бұрын
Love the vintage vs. repro series. Not authentically reproducing the pattern, but copy paste on the instructions is just absolutely crazy.
@annbrookens945
@annbrookens945 Ай бұрын
Totally agree!
@katwitanruna
@katwitanruna Ай бұрын
It’s stuff like this that made me appreciate the tilting light table my late father built.
@marymugge1523
@marymugge1523 Ай бұрын
Im with you on needing the extra instructions about tricky bits. And changing the pattern to make it so you get stuck is frustrating. I had to have my husband pull me out of a dress i was making last night because I was stuck. Thankfully it was a mockup but still. Thanks for doing the heavy lifting pattern testing since Simplicity didnt do it.
@stephsupr
@stephsupr Ай бұрын
I just had an epiphany!!!! I bet that they took the vintage pattern, copied it and then a graphic designer (or pattern drafter??) moved the darts "slightly" on the modern pattern to accommodate for the extra lines that are needed for the multi size pattern. I bet that the dart lines would have overlapped too much to be comprehensible. They altered the pattern so it would fit the criteria of working on the multi pattern and ignored the slight adjustments that would have on the fit of the garment. I wonder if the outer shapes of the under arm and skirts were copied from another similar pattern and were just "re-used" so no one had to re-draft the pieces. Maybe it makes sense to add another 1" of seam allowance to all these re-issues just so everyone has more wiggle room.
@user-yc4fz7vv6u
@user-yc4fz7vv6u Ай бұрын
This is what I was thinking about the darts.
@janicegutshall653
@janicegutshall653 Ай бұрын
I am guessing that they had one of the tiny sizes, and then put it into their system for scaling. Then the algorithm would be trying to scale from there and that might account for some of it, or perhaps the copy they had was trimmed down to the owners measurements, and then more drift once in the computer scaling system?
@MarisaFrasure
@MarisaFrasure Ай бұрын
Makes sense to me......
@Eloraurora
@Eloraurora Ай бұрын
​@@MarisaFrasure It seems like it gave SewRena a hard time, too, though. And she's pretty small herself.
@MarisaFrasure
@MarisaFrasure Ай бұрын
@@Eloraurora she has what you call a costumable body. If she had difficulties, imagine the rest of us.....
@Eloraurora
@Eloraurora Ай бұрын
@@MarisaFrasure I mean, the lines do appeal (as the owner of a noodle torso) but I'd also have to figure out where to start grading out the hips.
@Downhomeherbwife
@Downhomeherbwife Ай бұрын
The vintage one was factory folded, never cut.
@pippavombr5856
@pippavombr5856 10 күн бұрын
I can remember when my mom made her dresses in the 1960s and she always got mad with the side zippers. She changed to back zippers and was happy with it. She was a petit person and struggled with the side zipped dresses too.
@elizabethpeters4805
@elizabethpeters4805 Күн бұрын
When I first began sewing in the late 1950s to early 1960s, most dresses actually had side zippers because you could not obtain the longer ones you needed for a back zipper. Once we could get the longer zippers for a center back application, we stopped using the side insert zipper. A center back zipper was easier to sew as well as easier to use.
@Odontecete
@Odontecete Ай бұрын
Now I'm off to go watch Serena's make just to hear her swear...LOL. I love that you did a deep dive into the sleeve. It not only changes how you fit your arm through but also how the fabric lays across the chest. It's almost like Simplicity is afraid of CURVES.
@IISheireenII
@IISheireenII Ай бұрын
So it continues. The "reproductions" are reimagenings and the "authentic reproductions" are slightly changed but fairly close repros
@connie6545
@connie6545 Ай бұрын
Thank you for this comparison of modern vs. vintage. There are enough "modifications" in the modern one that changes the fit!! I love the romance of vintage, and it was accomplished with the darts, techniques on collars, buttons, etc., AND something that doesn't fall apart in the wash! VINTAGE all the way! I'm learning a LOT--Thanx, Stephanie!
@michellecornum5856
@michellecornum5856 Ай бұрын
Congratulations on your sponsorship. Making the mockups was amazingly informative. Vintage can be bad and tricky all on its own. Nicely done
@EdenYell
@EdenYell 20 күн бұрын
This is just proof that I was right about modern patterns raising the waist for no apparent reason.
@dawnish7559
@dawnish7559 Ай бұрын
wish i was there to show you how to make a light box so you can see the patterns on top better , maybe husband can make for you
@custoMary.designs.creations
@custoMary.designs.creations Ай бұрын
A new video on the same day I got not one but 2 antique sewing machines? goodness. what a lovely day.
@krism.9363
@krism.9363 Ай бұрын
Great video & I love that you do these challenges. Excellent mock up! Simplicity should do this before they release these patterns! 😤
@fawntheresa5338
@fawntheresa5338 Ай бұрын
I am glad this reproduction is close, I'm going to add this to my list of future makes! Thank you for making practical mockups!!
@CindyLeaux
@CindyLeaux Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for adding the final measurements. That is so helpful! I have this original vintage pattern but it’s not my size, so it’s nice to know about the quality of the reproduction.
@amilan409
@amilan409 Ай бұрын
I don't understand why they couldn't just copy the damn original ! ... they do larger sizes on these repros, so yeah they can adjust for the plus size but do it from the original !
@lindagoesel3815
@lindagoesel3815 Ай бұрын
Your videos are so entertaining, thank you. And I have to say, I have been sewing for over 60 years. Even when the pattern called for side zip, I put in a back, gasp. Yes even in the 50s or 40s patterns since they were around. I hated side zips so for ease back zipper I don't care about the authenticity i care about comfort. ❤
@Downhomeherbwife
@Downhomeherbwife Ай бұрын
I put side zips in modern items for exactly the same reason - comfort. I am not a contortionist, have two messed up shoulders and arthritis in my hands, and cannot do up a back zip. But, back zips ARE so much easier to put in!
@darlenemiller9990
@darlenemiller9990 Ай бұрын
Stephanie, I have to know the pattern number of the green dress cut out that you pop up at 20 seconds. I made that dress in junior high and that was my first experience with a three-way seam. I ripped it out a couple of times and it was pretty ragged when I finished it. Whew! Most of my patterns of that era didn’t survive. Mom probably passed them along to friends who had daughters younger than me, or I used them so many times they were ragged. Enjoyed your review. I guess it’s the little things that count. I’ve made a couple of vintage patterns and do my best to put the zipper in the back. So much easier to put on, and easier to add pockets if I want! This is Jan. Darlene is my mom and we watch you on her channel on TV.
@NatSews
@NatSews Ай бұрын
Simplicity 7436, the v-yoke collarless tent dress :)) would be fun to revisit it !
@obsidianrosestudio2663
@obsidianrosestudio2663 Ай бұрын
After watching multiples of these I am wondering if the drafters are ‘walking’ the patterns. This is where you match up all your pieces where they seam together to make sure they match up properly. They just said, ‘close enough’ and called it a day. They also aren’t adding the same ease allowances as the vintage patterns. I don’t know what they their thought processes are but I would definitely do things differently.
@BerinKinsman
@BerinKinsman Ай бұрын
Hearing sweet @sewrina cuss made my day. 😂
@dressdeveloper
@dressdeveloper Ай бұрын
I don’t get this. Some lines match perfectly, some not at all. So they HAD the original pattern pieces and decided to change these. Leave aside that’s not a reproduction than, per definition. But why add flaws like the sharp angle instead of the underarm curve? I’m just an amateur who makes patterns, but I don’t understand this. 🤔
@sophiesong8937
@sophiesong8937 Ай бұрын
IF it is reproduced from an original copy of this pattern, we don't actually know what size their copy was. In the process of grading, there are sometimes choices you have to make, and I think this could account for some of the difference. In my personal collection I have a multisize pattern produced by a major reproducer on Etsy, who I know had an original of a particular size, and I also have a copy of the original pattern in a different size.. and if I compare the two, the repro lines are off.. but I think it is the grading choices that result in the differences there, too.
@sewvintagebysunraedoll
@sewvintagebysunraedoll Ай бұрын
I would love to see someone make this up in the largest size 24/modern, before I decide to buy😅 for my collection.
@anonomas6126
@anonomas6126 Ай бұрын
Why don’t you put more of your content on KZfaq? Your sewing seems interesting I would like to see more.
@nyotauhura7412
@nyotauhura7412 Ай бұрын
I can understand changing the pattern to accommodate modern sizes, fabric, lifestyle and modern foundation garments, but it should actually improve on the original.
@katwitanruna
@katwitanruna Ай бұрын
I would love if they used the correct pattern pieces and then distinguished the various sizes by using both different line pattern as well as a color and a symbol printed on the pattern, although I might be tempted to notate it on each pattern piece. I’d pay for that.
@lovepuppy2242
@lovepuppy2242 Ай бұрын
legitimately whispered "yesssssssssss" to myself when i saw this. love these videos.
@KristinaHoneyHavenFarm
@KristinaHoneyHavenFarm Ай бұрын
I appreciate the comparison. My assumption for the reproductions has always been that they are an exact duplicate of the originals.
@m.maclellan7147
@m.maclellan7147 Ай бұрын
Props to hubby for his stellar acting during the sponsor part !
@donnacoleman4624
@donnacoleman4624 Ай бұрын
I HATE the modern multisize patterns with a passion and was always underwhelmed when i did sew one. That is why, in my opinion, vintage rules! I now purchase vintage exclusively and i enjoy the hunt for the perfect ( me) patterns. Thank u for doing these comparison videos, they are informative and always entertaining😊 😊
@catherinerw1
@catherinerw1 Ай бұрын
Chaos sewing here... I'm making a pair of SUPER wide-legged trousers (inspired by the ones Ailsa made a few weeks ago on this year's Sewing Bee); I put the fabric for the welt pocket bags in the wrong way round; so the inside of the pocket isn't the pretty side. (These are additional back pockets that aren't on the original pattern I'm using). And decided to just live with it. If someone can see that my pocket bags aren't as pretty as they should be, they're Too Close.
@emilyrln
@emilyrln Ай бұрын
It always amazes me how much a few small changes to the pattern can affect the finished garment!
@dagnolia6004
@dagnolia6004 Ай бұрын
fun vid (but less snarky 🙄 than usual). i love the black check skirt in the surf shark cutaways .....
@nelliewerger5505
@nelliewerger5505 Ай бұрын
When i started sewing from patterns (roughly 1973) I very quickly learned to ignore the instructions. Nowadays . I don't actually use patterns very often. I drape most things, and when i do use a pattern it's mostly just for the shapes... which i modify to fit... that being said. I love your videos and you actually keep me company over long projects
@daxxydog5777
@daxxydog5777 Ай бұрын
Well, to be fair, the modern block may take into account that people are not built the same as they were back in the 60s. We’re generally squishier than people were back then, looking back at my own family photos. As long as the style is close, I don’t have a problem with it. We all need to adjust patterns to our own bodies anyway. I do love your dress, Steph! Ooh, la, la!
@FlickiChicki
@FlickiChicki Ай бұрын
We actually aren’t. I wear the same patterns my Grandma P fitted to herself. There’s minimal changes - usually lengthening the hem as I’m 6” taller. There’s difference in undergarment structure however at some points.
@rd6203
@rd6203 Ай бұрын
​@@FlickiChickiI'm almost the same size as my grandma was, also, only an inch taller and without the "mommy middle" She was not a seWist, sadly.
@christajennings3828
@christajennings3828 Ай бұрын
Except that the finished measurements of the modern one are 1 inch SMALLER in the bust and waist (1" larger in the hips), than the vintage one, for the same body measurements.
@Inlelendri
@Inlelendri Ай бұрын
Possibly not on-topic, but I really love the shirt and skirt you have on in the mock-up reveal and in the sponsor-segment. They look really good on you, if I'm allowed to say that.
@sandyhumissouri5131
@sandyhumissouri5131 3 күн бұрын
Same here!
@Goatings
@Goatings 15 сағат бұрын
I wish i hadn't discovered this series only AFTER i spent significant amounts on reproduction patterns, ignorance is bliss... until i finally attempt any of them
@sabaahjauhar-rizvi3487
@sabaahjauhar-rizvi3487 Ай бұрын
This is why I add seam allowance to commercial patterns. There’s always iffy measurements on them!
@RR-yh6vr
@RR-yh6vr Ай бұрын
You rock! Thank you for doing this.
@doglover1neo
@doglover1neo Ай бұрын
Another option for the zipper location could be Center front. And invisible zipper should fit quite nicely right there. And it would be better for those with issues reaching to the vaccine or the side seam to unzip themselves. Another quickish fix for the side seam to underarm seam is to add a gusset. This style of cut on sleeve or "kimono" sleeve is very popular and vintage fashions in the mid-century, but aren't really used in modern times. And most people might not find them very comfortable. I would recommend a gusset in a shape of a triangle or like a cartoon house. The base width of the triangle flash foundation of the house would be the extra with needed at the opening of the sleeve. Then, the sides of the triangle slash house will be the length of the underarm seem. That should give more room for comfort and mobility.
@dianetoberman1742
@dianetoberman1742 2 күн бұрын
Have an older pattern from the 1980s. I was a small back then. Now I'm a medium in mordern measurements. I had to sew an XL in the 1980s pattern. Reality hit hard.
@ebmosier1
@ebmosier1 Ай бұрын
It's a small thing, but I'm genuinely glad to see them finally putting the original pattern number on the new pattern. Saves a lot of time with Google Lens. And, tragically, I think this is what we all knew was coming, but didn't want to acknowledge (at least, I didn't)...that """"AuThEnTiC"""" label means absolute zip.
@sallybruska1499
@sallybruska1499 12 күн бұрын
My Mother had some vintage patterns from when she was a young woman. I made a skirt one summer that I just loved. It was very easy to sew. It's to bad the newer copies don't follow the older patterns faithfully. I do like the patterns that have more than one size, but I haven't sewed anything in a long time.
@LRWdesign
@LRWdesign 9 күн бұрын
I made a dress from a vintage reproduction pattern. The dress turned out fantastic …. Except for the bodice. I now need to go in and tack down the gathered bust area because it doesn’t sit right on the sides. And the button back closure I think I’ll replace with a zipper if I make a second one. I have 3 more of those vintage patterns I want to try, but I’ll do muslins first for fit issues.
@jadakowers590
@jadakowers590 Ай бұрын
Thank you for being so thorough and always giving a little extra!
@dianagreene4257
@dianagreene4257 Ай бұрын
*Body doubling with KZfaq while I iron* Stephanie: ironing ASMR Perfection!
@jayneterry8701
@jayneterry8701 Ай бұрын
All thru i kept thinking yeah but do the seams match, .... Bonus for us that you stitched up both copies 👍 We love the visuals! 🎉💗
@alexandriaborn8285
@alexandriaborn8285 19 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for the detailed video, which confirmed that fit for my body on the real vintage patterns is much better than the new reproductions.
@hannahmusick8622
@hannahmusick8622 Ай бұрын
Lol, thanks Stephanie. I am definitely sewing in chaos today. And this was a nice companion.
@kitefan1
@kitefan1 12 күн бұрын
This was interesting. I am old enough to have sewed "vintage". So the modern pattern seems to make sleeve armholes smaller and assumes the fabric is stretcher. This is the way I feel that modern clothes fit. I'm not sure, but I think the side zip would have been before "invisible zipper".
@sublimnalphish7232
@sublimnalphish7232 Ай бұрын
Even though it's not perfect, it's a LOT better than all the ones before. So E for effort. Maybe they could do better. I just wonder why all those little changes ? Do they have to pay the designer a fee for the repro? I must so the proportion of the modern would be a closer fit but still small in the boobs and big in the waist.
@CatMom-uw9jl
@CatMom-uw9jl Ай бұрын
I would think that after this much time the original designer is no longer with us. Plus, usually when you work in a creative job, anything you create at work belongs to the company, in terms of rights and royalties.
@1313gothicangels
@1313gothicangels Ай бұрын
Love the comparison videos. Just shows they don't do the right corrections from original to retro repattern . And from a booby girl here in Australia I absolutely love love love the dress you had on at the beginning of this video 😊
@sandyhumissouri5131
@sandyhumissouri5131 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for doing this! That looks like a challenging project and the back zip is brilliant. I'd love to try it!
@mrsvickigriffin
@mrsvickigriffin Ай бұрын
That neckline & those darts give me nightmares ill stick to my muumuus 😂
@katwitanruna
@katwitanruna Ай бұрын
Is it bad I have an urge to make them both up in spare cloth from my stash just to see what happens? 9:13 ish
@MarisaFrasure
@MarisaFrasure Ай бұрын
Please do it..... people need to know!
@AngelCCD
@AngelCCD Ай бұрын
I don't care for the neckline front thing. Thank you for another fun video
@alli_mode
@alli_mode Ай бұрын
It is so weird to me that the company wouldn't file these things in case they need them again. As an artist(_04_10_final_02) I find this very strange.
@AllTheHappySquirrels
@AllTheHappySquirrels Ай бұрын
I love this series!
@agness6766
@agness6766 Ай бұрын
Oh boy, my favorite series is back, I'm soo excited!!🥰
@alexanderson3986
@alexanderson3986 Ай бұрын
This is such an informative and entertaining process! Thank you for producing this series
@originalkingdomhearts
@originalkingdomhearts Ай бұрын
Yeees I've been waiting for another one of these!
@TheTRbandit
@TheTRbandit Ай бұрын
Hi Stephanie, I've an idea for you. (Love ur vids). Why not choose a year and do a "fashion" show (showing patterns) for that year and maybe make one for each season (4)? A new vid for each outfit you make, showing the season and patterns you selected it from. Say 1957 Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter collection; and then a vid for each seasonal outfit made for this year, or whatever year you like. You could do a few of a different year for each decade, if you wanted to continue the theme. xx
@Digglesisdead
@Digglesisdead 13 күн бұрын
The bust size and shapes are made to accommodate the support undergarments of the time, both vintage and modern patterns. Bra cup shapes and lift of breasts have changed. This could explain the discrepancies in the busts of the two patterns. - Historical Costumer
@sandyhumissouri5131
@sandyhumissouri5131 3 күн бұрын
😂 "Historical customer" IYKYK
@rebeccacamacho-sobczak4282
@rebeccacamacho-sobczak4282 Ай бұрын
I love it wen you do this!!!!
@DisMindy5767
@DisMindy5767 15 күн бұрын
The 1950s patterns that I have that were given to me by my mother inlaw are also a 14, bust 34, but in practice they're really like today's 8. The waist on some of the blouses however, require some sort of girdle as was popular or endured for fashion in the 1950s. I agree that pleating lines on multisize patterns should be banned!! Just duplicate those specific pieces in all the included sizes.
@angeliccow
@angeliccow Ай бұрын
Love these comparison videos :)
@MaryanneNZ
@MaryanneNZ Ай бұрын
Blimmin heck that midriff rides high!!! It doesn't have much bust room!
@remusgrrrl
@remusgrrrl Ай бұрын
The other possibility for the differences is the printing method. I know from buying digital patterns that even though it might work perfectly on the authors printer, that doesn't mean it will work perfectly on mine.
@kaitlyncollins255
@kaitlyncollins255 Ай бұрын
I've used a different pattern from this "revival" line and I had to do soooo much finagling to get it to work& look correctly.
@susandonnell5019
@susandonnell5019 Ай бұрын
Hi Stephanie! I am new to your channel, but I am hooked! I cannot begin to tell you how absolutely beautiful you are! And the dresses you make! Gorgeous! You're pretty darn funny, too!
@A-Minor-Music
@A-Minor-Music Ай бұрын
I think the tucks & neckline on this would have thwarted me so congrats on your valiant effort. And I definitely prefer a back zip. Why did the original pattern not have one anyway😂😂? Thanks for your detailed analysis.
@ushere5791
@ushere5791 Ай бұрын
great video--thank you!!
@lisahodges8299
@lisahodges8299 Ай бұрын
Is the difference in size due to the modern seam allowance? 5/8 of an inch for modern patterns and 1/2 for older patterns. Don't know if I have got this the right way around for sure. Birdy
@Downhomeherbwife
@Downhomeherbwife Ай бұрын
they both have 5/8 seams.
@susanrussell8195
@susanrussell8195 10 күн бұрын
But since the modern pattern is slightly larger than the vintage, doesn’t it make sense that the darts, etc would be slightly off in order to accommodate that change? I also wonder if there has been a shift in the amount of ease expected in our garments especially since we don’t wear nearly as constricting of foundation wear? And the under arm difference does seem to be slight. It looks like much more because the vintage pattern has the seam allowance drawn on with a smooth arc that makes it seem much more rounded than the cut line.
@knittingnana2939
@knittingnana2939 Ай бұрын
Oh frabjous day, caloo, calay! He chortled in his joy.
@christiankolinski1563
@christiankolinski1563 Ай бұрын
Some of the differences are just from scaling/sizing - they reproduce one size from original - in this case due to all the dart placement aligning on the size 10 most probably that. Then they scale from there as they would with any modern pattern. Which is most definitely going to result in another final pattern then the way it was done "back then". Other techniques, and other parameters -- like your ease is also important in scaling up and down, so if they have another "default ease" due to all the modern fabrics they usually have to consider. The more you move away from the size they used initially, the more it will go wrong. Would guess if you'd gone to compare a size 10 and equivalent a lot of things would be closer. Some minor differences will always be - just due to "computer does curve alignment" vs. "Jaaaaack, where's my french curve gone again"?
@peppertea6050
@peppertea6050 Ай бұрын
Stephanie, greetings,👋🏻👋🏻 I hope you are well and Florida is not as hot as germany ist right now😆
@daxxydog5777
@daxxydog5777 Ай бұрын
The entire South is hotter than the devil’s behind right now, in the 90s every day. But we have air conditioning, while it’s scarce in Europe. Prayers y’all get a break!
@joantrotter3005
@joantrotter3005 Ай бұрын
Not sure how hot it was in Germany, but the real feel was 113* today north of Houston. Imagine what it would be like if we weren't getting cooler breezes of the water? Without the humidity I think it was 96?
@christajennings3828
@christajennings3828 Ай бұрын
​@@joantrotter3005drove through an area west of Sacramento, California on Tuesday where the actual thermometer reading was 110°. I don't know what it felt like, I kept my windows up and AC on!
@Chevonne718
@Chevonne718 25 күн бұрын
i prefer the vintage ones because the extra tips
@Avotts
@Avotts Ай бұрын
Enjoyed this. I like the pleated side of the neck. I did NOT like the fake scarf look.
@Zine2me
@Zine2me Ай бұрын
It irks me no end that they can't just reprint the things. Some of them were enough of a challenge the first time they came out but for some reason these companies think they are improving things when they clearly aren't. They are just cutting a few corners they arbitrarily decide on. If they want to improve it and modernize it, just say "put the zipper in the back" or something like that.
@emryspaperart
@emryspaperart 15 күн бұрын
they probably decided that exact reprints aren't worth the cost, as they'd have to print all sizes individually. that's even assuming they have all the original sizes at their disposal to reproduce - they probably don't, and as others have said, the weird changes are likely down to grading choices from another size.
@therewillbecatswithgwenhwyfar
@therewillbecatswithgwenhwyfar Ай бұрын
0:01 what dress is this? Is this something that you've shown on the channel? I'm gonna go back and look through thumbnails but even just seeing the top and that incredible fabric I want to know more!
@tantsture4660
@tantsture4660 Ай бұрын
Did you live in Canada or do you have the name just cause… I love your content!!!🤩
@m.maclellan7147
@m.maclellan7147 Ай бұрын
She lives in Florida. "Canada" is her & husband's name.
@Downhomeherbwife
@Downhomeherbwife Ай бұрын
@@m.maclellan7147 'and no, I don't live there' 😁
@donnabeard9344
@donnabeard9344 Ай бұрын
I made this dress using a reproduction pattern and it has both a side zip and a back zip.
@FulcrEm
@FulcrEm Ай бұрын
I wonder if instead of having copies of all of the different sizes, if they only had one size of the original to base the reproduction on, so the differences are based upon the way that they graded the original sized pattern. 🤔🤔
@sierraroseprzybyla3333
@sierraroseprzybyla3333 25 күн бұрын
I think that this might have to do with the vintage vs modern scaling …🤷🏻‍♀️ (when they make the pattern bigger from their starting/sample size)
@nicolebacon3230
@nicolebacon3230 Ай бұрын
so some of the seam lines not quite matching up i chock up with them being different sizes, a size 12 back in the 50's is more akin to an 8-10 today, fashion industry wants you to think your smaller than you think you are so trying to match the 12 to the 14 is not going to happen, the copy paste i find wonderful! they didn't change a thing basically. also you should know your measurements and change the pattern according to you actual size.
@espurrlady3397
@espurrlady3397 Ай бұрын
Grat video!
@lillianclanahan9164
@lillianclanahan9164 Ай бұрын
Would love to see the reproduction Simplicity 3688 3 piece suit and I really want to make it but now I'm scared.
@batya7
@batya7 Ай бұрын
I learned something!
@flowerjoy2090
@flowerjoy2090 Ай бұрын
I received some beautiful wool vintage ? Fabric that is 29 inches wide. It was a common width in the 30s and 40s from info I can find. Is there a way to figure out yardage needed for patterns when info isn’t given for that width?
@k.s.k.7721
@k.s.k.7721 Ай бұрын
Simply google "yardage conversion chart". Several will come up and you can choose whichever comes closest to your fabric width - then scroll until you find the right amount needed in other widths.
@christajennings3828
@christajennings3828 Ай бұрын
​@@k.s.k.7721that can get you close, but doesn't always work. I prefer to fold a piece of fabric (or a sheet, for wider widths) to the correct width, and lay out the pattern. I've had the equivalent charts give me an amount that didn't work, because there were pieces that couldn't overlap anymore, etc. All it will tell you is what equals the same number of square inches, and pattern layouts don't work that way.
@DawnShipley1977
@DawnShipley1977 Ай бұрын
What I don't understand about patterns is the triangles sticking out of the lines.
@dragonchild569
@dragonchild569 Ай бұрын
Do you think the differences, specifically on the bodice, could be due to modern grading vs, vintage grading? I also wonder if they tried to remake it based on a picture or scan of the original tissue, rather than the actual pattern pieces on tissue.
@katwitanruna
@katwitanruna Ай бұрын
What’s the ease on each?
@__luthien_tinuviel3797
@__luthien_tinuviel3797 Ай бұрын
I will forgive some minor variance, as I expect they would only buy one copy of the vintage pattern and the grade it, not buy the original pattern in all required sizes. Who knows what size they started with. Clearly they didn't quite measure right and didn't think through how the darts would look on a multi sized pattern sheet though. Not forgiving all the issues here.
@BoiseShan
@BoiseShan 28 күн бұрын
Who is the lovely person who inspired you to make this video? I'd love a link to their YT
@stefaninafla
@stefaninafla 21 күн бұрын
The only other fix would be to gusset the underarm, which is different engineering.
@cassmacdonald-perfectlyimp2486
@cassmacdonald-perfectlyimp2486 Ай бұрын
“Authentic Vintage Reproduction” - was so disappointed when you didn’t say you’d be the judge of that 😂. Excellent cameo by Mr Canada. We all stan Mr Canada (after you, of course 🤪)
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