Stephen Ferris does not hold back on his assessment of Dylan Hartley

Stephen Ferris does not hold back on his assessment of Dylan Hartley | RugbyPass Offload

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Жыл бұрын

RugbyPass Offload is back with Marc Edwards, Max Lahiff, Ryan Wilson and Stephen Ferris as they talk all things rugby. Ferris spoke openly about a conflict he had with Dylan Hartley
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@djharto4917 Жыл бұрын

I always remembered Hartley making his comeback against Leinster in Heineken cup and hitting Sean o Brian, complete cheap shot. I’m sure there’s many more

@user-cu7rk3bi8y Ай бұрын

Sean O'BRIEN would slaughter him.. OBrein was the smart man not to react.. Hartley was tuned the wrong way if he had discipline would of been top player hurt his club and England more times. Think it was when England ref sent him off in Heineken cup his face said it all

@jonathanmawdesley-thomas1863 Жыл бұрын

Dylan has a pretty chequered path when it comes to incidents on the rugby field . Ferris good fair hard player .

@simonbackhouse5142 Жыл бұрын

On one occasion Ferris was “fish-hooking” Hartley, so Hartley (not unreasonably) bit him. Ferris cries like a girl and runs off to the ref to complain. Hard Man? My arse!

@Driver2616 Ай бұрын

⁠@@simonbackhouse5142 Sorry, did you really type here “…Hartley (not unreasonably) bit him…” !!!??!!! Yes. You did type that. 🙄 He bit him. That’s some real low down cheating stuff and you say “(not unreasonably)”. There’s something wrong with you.

@niallsheehan474 Жыл бұрын

Well articulated by Stephen

@JTM1809 Жыл бұрын

Never liked Hartley. Guy's always been vicious and borderline psycho. He accumulated 60 weeks of bans in total in his career. That's more than a calendar year.

@garylake1676 Жыл бұрын

I agree, it was embarrassing to have him as our captain, as he was never capable of playing within himself, I did feel that he was made captain for two reasons, to actually place some responsibility on his shoulders, and as he was clearly our best hooker, to ensure that he was not accountable to a different captain who would not be able to handle him.

@JTM1809 Жыл бұрын

@@garylake1676 Good points. I believe, there's a third reason as well. I believe Eddie Jones simply loves this antagonistic character type. The street bully kind, that works on the margins of the law. It lends itself well to the siege mentality Eddie wants to constantly instil. That's why he had Hartley as a captain, and Farrell after him. Both universally respected for their skill, but equally universally disliked by their opposition. From this perspective, it seems a bit odd, that he went with the soft-spoken and gentlemanly Tom Curry for that odd game, and now with the critically thinking, almost an intellectual type of Courtney Lawes, but I guess it worked because Lawes is still an intimidating dominant tackler on the field with full tattoo sleeves, even though he's an articulate and coherent autonomous thinker off the field.

@Mr___X Жыл бұрын

Great maths, thanks Sumo

@garylake1676 Жыл бұрын

@@JTM1809 Yes, I get that, the Jose mentality.

@grahamholliday9962 Жыл бұрын

@@JTM1809 Harsh on Faz compared to the cheap shot Hartley who was an embarrassment for this England fan when he played Might have been a decent line-out thrower but never thought he was that good a player Jamie G always looked superior but Yoda as you say liked the niggle Hartley caused with his cheap shots

@zw5509 Жыл бұрын

You got it. The kind of player, wee weasel, who would have been taken out in the 'good old days' when a hundred cameras were not trained on the pitch.

@alanmulcahy7749 Жыл бұрын

Ferris didn't need to say anything - his hits were enough to shut anyone up !

@bradleybarrett5131 Жыл бұрын

Heartley had a chequered past however when he was given the captaincy he really did switch on I don’t think he was the most skilled player but he was good enough for international and his leadership kept him in there and all the analysis he now does for BT I actually think he’s very observant and a very intelligent pundit

@seanyshepfit Жыл бұрын

"The English". Jog on Wilson, you sound more English than half the side 😂

@yankorusev Жыл бұрын

Ferris is hilarious

@jep1912 Жыл бұрын

Never understood the Hartley thing, the guy's hugely disliked and forgettable.

@oliverhunter9495 Жыл бұрын

His post rugby career leaves me speechless. Mind you Ryan Wilson is a tool par excellence, at least Hartley won some stuff.

@Jamie-ur6xy 3 күн бұрын

@@oliverhunter9495 wdym post rugby career?

@thewhitedoncheadle8345 Жыл бұрын

might wanna talk about o'mahoney then

@Driver2616 Ай бұрын

OK. So talk. For starters here, O’Mahony was always deemed likely to throw a left jab or a right uppercut, but only in self defence. He never led with violence. He never started anything. He is/was a bloody bastard to play against, niggling, slagging off, trying to incite a reaction, playing right on the edge of the laws, bloody infuriating nuisance. And he’ll defend his teammates both vocally and physically. But one thing he’s not is a cheating, cheap shot merchant.

@glaw5ter Жыл бұрын

Karma dealt with Hartley never got a Lions cap went to Best instead.🤣🤣🤣

@davidhughes8795 Жыл бұрын

Hasn't Ferris also said that he thinks Warren Gatland 'hates' Irish people before?

@Lun3aa Жыл бұрын

gatland was seriously fucked over by the blazers at the irfu and has a legitimate beef with them...but it does seem to have spilled over into his dealings with irish players over the years...especially some of his lions selections. i would say when it comes to playing against ireland he is extra motivated to beat us. but i wouldnt say he hates irish people...just not particularly fond of the irish rugby setup and its reps

@davidhughes8795 Жыл бұрын

@@Lun3aa that's fair i suppose

@sharifela7993 Жыл бұрын

So what happened when he was Irish boss?

@barrygormley Жыл бұрын

@@sharifela7993 His take is Eddie O'Sullivan stabbed him in the back and took his job and the IRFU blazers facilitated it. Eddie denies it off course. I tend to believe Gatland

@Lun3aa Жыл бұрын

@@sharifela7993 gatland was the one who started the turnaround in the international team...we were literally a joke throughout the 1990s winning less than one game per season on average in the 5 nations...in 2000 he brought in a load of new players and we won 3 games for the first time since the 80's. in 2001 we were a bad result in scotland away from a grand slam...then he got the boot and o'sullivan took over...who was gatlands assistant. i have no idea if there was 'backstabbing' but it wasnt a good look at the time for eddie and i am sure gatland felt betrayed by all concerned. part of the problem for gatland was ireland's worst ever (to that time) world cup performance - failing to reach the quarter final in 1999 even though we qualified from 2nd in the group it was only good enough for a playoff to get to the quarters (ironically a feat only surpassed in shittiness by o'sullivan himself in 2007 when they didnt even get out of the group). gatland would argue he had set ireland on course for the improvement we have seen since the dreadful 90s and was shoved out while still on an upward trajectory.

@Mojo16011973 Жыл бұрын

Hartley doesn't deserve to have a media career in Rugby. I mute him when he talks.

@Driver2616 Ай бұрын

He’s right, Dylan was a cheap shot merchant on the pitch.

@johncannon3411 Жыл бұрын

so anyways i said to mabel i says.....

@dawnjohnson4300 Жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly in 2012 the English Pack walked all over the Irish scrum

@TheBigd1975 Жыл бұрын

Yeah that's correct. It's directly because of that game there's 2 specialist props on the bench. Tom court a loose head had to play tighthead for Mike Ross. He and the Irish scrum got minced.

@octopusfly Жыл бұрын

Dylan was hungry.

@carljones6044 Жыл бұрын

Ferris was no angel either. A game at home in Swansea he hit an Osprey who was prone on the floor, nowhere near the ball and was totally out of order. Lost a lot of respect for him as a man after that, monster of a player though and a brilliant athlete.

@whatdoyousaymrwilson Жыл бұрын

Why was his finger in his mouth? If he was trying to fishhook him then he deserved to get bitten.

@patrickchilds2987 Жыл бұрын

Two abrasive ex players in still don't like each other shocker 🙄 No one really knows what happened ..its their thing ..who cares

@YodaAndCo Жыл бұрын

I find Hartley very personable in all the interviews and his social media. Does plenty of charity work also so don't think anyone in this comment section is qualified to call him a dick 🤷🏼‍♂️

@grahamholliday9962 Жыл бұрын

Actions speak louder than words to this England fan

@alanrobinson7891 Жыл бұрын

People are talking about during his playing career, not his social media profile. And facts are facts, during his playing career he was a dick

@weiss-du5fq Жыл бұрын

Many on here are qualified Jim & he's way worse than a dick , just a putrid human .

@elmaestro64 Жыл бұрын

no one is judging him off the pitch but on the pitch he did not cover himself in glory quite a few times

@beatonthedonis Жыл бұрын

You can take the New Zealander out of New Zealand...

@jbee9713 Жыл бұрын

England and Eddie Jones live rent free in the heads of the RP panel every week 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@philiptatley8346 Жыл бұрын

please sir, please sir, he's just bitten me! big soft bloody fairy. would not have lasted five minutes in the 70s.

@alanrobinson7891 Жыл бұрын

Clearly never seen ferris play then

@simonbackhouse5142 Жыл бұрын

@@alanrobinson7891 I have, and he went to the ref crying like a girl.

@Driver2616 Ай бұрын

@@simonbackhouse5142 And Ferris quite rightly made a complaint to the referee. Remember, someone said once, “…this is not football…”. Just a pity that Dylan never quite understood that…..

@tortoisebore8642 Жыл бұрын

What was your hand doing in is face

@Lun3aa Жыл бұрын

trying to escape...like what was garry ringrose's face doing against that nz prop's head

@leannecampbell4551 Жыл бұрын

Merely bitter old Lemons from Ferris. What did he ever achieve in the game?

@Lun3aa Жыл бұрын

grand slam...despite retiring young ... i presume that is fewer than you have won?...and bitter? calling hartley a cheap shot merchant? objectively true...about someone with over a year of suspensions in his career, for biting, gouging, headbutting etc - if anything he went easy on the scumbag

@kieranosullivan5813 Жыл бұрын

Played for the lions unlike hartley who wrecked his only chance thru indiscipline

@user-mc3wi5tj6u Жыл бұрын

Played for the lions, grand slam in 09 and even if he didn’t have that to go by as if that would discredit what he’s saying 💀💀💀💀

@deskirby309 Жыл бұрын

He was a heineken cup finalist in 2012, he won a six nations and grand slam with Ireland. He played for the British and Irish Lions. His career was cut short at 28. If his body had stood up he probably would have won another 2 6 nations. Absoulte quality player.

@markmoran916 Жыл бұрын

Leanne love...that didn’t go well for you? Oh bless....maybe your rugby knowledge isn’t your strong point

@gearoidmacthiarnain3763 Жыл бұрын

Hartley was shiite.

@user-eq9os5tc7j Жыл бұрын

Ferris what a sad person

@alanrobinson7891 Жыл бұрын

How so? He spoke nothing but the truth

@tyrexpress Жыл бұрын

As an Ulster and Ireland fan I admired Stephen but sadly his language here is atrocious and immature at best.

@3storiesUp Жыл бұрын

You've little enough to worry you then ..

@tyrexpress Жыл бұрын

@@3storiesUp your opinion…..obviously not in line with mine which is ok.

@celtic333ful Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@dashingeduardosuarez Жыл бұрын

It's very typical lad talk. Fucking hell, you've led a sheltered life! Can I offer you some foie gras? 🧐

@phrankster909 Жыл бұрын

I'm on Hartley's side. Ferris is a liar.

@alanrobinson7891 Жыл бұрын

Yeah cos he bit himself didn't he

@richandrews8954 Жыл бұрын

On what basis Frank?

@shaneosullivan3358 Жыл бұрын

You could get exempt from jury duty with an opinion so biased and unbased

@intherealworld7705 Жыл бұрын

Rich from an Irishman

@aidanmasterson50 Жыл бұрын

Who were the biting Irish?

@washerdryer3466 Жыл бұрын

What ho, Old Fruit? Tell us more like a good little chap! Man up now, don't be afraid. 😂

@djharto4917 Жыл бұрын

Please tell ? Can’t remember many Irish players being cited for off the ball incidents. Can you elaborate ?

@user-hm8wf2jf1h Жыл бұрын

Reeeeaaally? I doubt you can back that up.

@dazeng4633 Жыл бұрын

@@djharto4917 yeah forgot what little sweethearts you were