Yeah because it's a cracked PC demo.

bro your timing for the first combo is crazy, i cant cancel the duck to 1 ws to hit on time lmao jfc

After using Steve for a while you’ll know when the cancel happens by feel haha. Most especially cancelling df2 in neutral to make it safe. Good luck on your Steve journey 🎉

True

I loved it 🤦🏻‍♂️

Correct me if im wrong but it sends them flying very very far away. That counts as wall carry?

It used to have a straight horizontal angle to the ender in T7 season 3, got nerfed in season 4 but still really good and useable as a BnB; now it sorr of does the Leroy uf 3+4, 3+4 thing where the throw angle is still forward but it's downward. It won't get you oki nor carry whereas the 312 duck 1 now gives the horizontal angle ALB2 used to give with wall splat

@@majorpum95x26wall carry combo can carry for a long distance and wall splat. Alb 2 cannot wall splat now

Any tips on how too duck cancel? i still dont got it

@outlaw0136 Start by practice duck canceling, which is just f3 then hold db, then try to see how fast you can transition into a ws1. This will build muscle memory on timing and prevent accidental crouching or normal jab 1. After that, try to see if you can do it after the f121b string-this part is the hardest. Essentially, I realized that you can input ducking the moment the last punch hits. The back input is necessary because it allows you to input f3 right after f121b. The good thing about this is that you can input 121 pretty quickly, and Steve is going to take his time doing this slow punch combo that includes a feint, which gives you a lot of time to focus on holding back and then hit f3 the moment the second punch hits. Now combine that with your counter hit > f31 starter just to nail that muscle memory in. The moment you're able to extend the combo for the first time, it snowballs from there. The rest is easy. You can just mash f222222222 until Steve does that uppercut thing, and you have a lot of time to do the 312 2 finisher.

Oh and, duck canceling is just transitioning f3 into a crouch by holding db. For some reason, it takes you out of ducking halfway through. The moment you see Steve's head jiggle a little bit, that's when you know you're in crouch. If you slow the combo vid down to 0.25, you can see it mid combo.

@@HintsV2I don’t see his head jiggle bro I can’t get the duck cancel after the 121b :(

@@Crowlo17 Try to see if you can do the duck cancel ws1 by itself. If you can't do it, I wouldn't say it's a super big deal. You can still perform some pretty good combos without it. I'd say it's more important to build the habit of holding db during ducking so you can cancel into a block.

That's what I've been saying. His pressure and 50/50 are stronger and his combos damage is nerfed but he has insane wall carry which in wall his pressure is out of this world.

People think he is nerfed due to stuff not carried over from tk7, but they added more pressure options. I really see that they wanted to emphasize aggression. Like feng, they nerfed or killed stuff from tk7 but now added shifting clouds on some of his moves adding pressure and mixups.

If you think that doing the new DF2 CH into ws2,2 in T8 is easy then come back here and do it consistently at least 5 times and you might have a point lol. Tbh his new stance is luckluster because you risk your life to do a guard break for 19 dmg unlike hellsweep where it's more rewarding as a mix and people will learn how to fuzzy that because it's i20 guardbreak and the mix is i14 mid. Some people can fuzzy Jin's ff3 and hellsweep on PC. Btw here's the list of Steve's nerf because you're being funny if you think he's better now lul - Nerfed 1,1,2 used to be 29 dmg now 27 only - Nerfed CH b1 damage 12 dmg now used to be 20 dmg in T7 - Nerfed gatling's hits and damage is weaker so weaker wall combo and 1st hit push the opponent to remove the shiro combo - DF2 nerf no combo - No ext duck f2 guard break into ws1,2 - b2 no longer a launcher - db3,2 used to knockdown with a guaranteed followup and sometimes a combo depending on the angle but now you need to risk to get a damage after the stomp, do a 20f high that guard breaks for 19 damage or 14f mid like smash. His T7 b1 combos used to do 98 DMG in small stages but now he can only do 80+ at best. His new i12 is good because he can now consistently punish moves with pushback like bryan's df2,3 and mid getup kicks (but getup kicks are safe now in t8 lol) His new homing move ub2 is really good but he really needs a new homing anyways cause in t7 his only homing move is pkb 2 lol so you always need to dash guard or something to realign.

@@gwiin8289 well .. shiro wasn't " easy " in 7, knee couldn't had done it properly when he went to Pakistan to play Heera. Now he does it with eyes closed . I may not have the previlage to play the crack version like u, but I do know humans always improve.if they don't get it, I will get it. Second regarding the new stance, your point is correct stating the fact that u can cover both options with fuzzy ducking, but not practicable, just like all other stances of Steve , u can cancel lionheart as well, u expected lionheart to be a " braindead" move u can just spam to win.. no .. u have to play the mind games as well. Lionheart is gonna be very viable. Because the threat is always there when the persons goes into the stance from so much plus frames. U sound knowledgeable so u know the threats from him moves. Pertaining the nerfs, Only two nerfs are concerning, the stomp being remove and the pressure from neutral via power punisher unblockable .. the rest of nerfs are very minor , 1,1,2 is a range buff B1 got a damage nerf but most if not all other characters in 8 lost their magic 4 or counter hit launcher, Steve is very uncontested in 8 for that so it's a big buff universally. Shiro combo is still there via heat with the mixup of instant duck clinch( high) and 2 ( mid). Shiro still exists with lw1,1( ch) as well, haven't seen it from British lancer as yet . B2 replace a launcher for plenty plus frames with about 35 damage, that's not necessarily a nerf, plus frames are damn good to have on your opponent. Steve is gonna be top tier bro .. mark my words

@@trinichinee6426 Shiro is easy, it's not as hard as people think tbh but that's not the point. My point is that the new stance is wack it's not as strong as you think, i will duck the mid mix all day and he needs to do that at least 8-9 times to kill me and i just need to duck the guard break once and i can almost defeat the opponent. The risk reward of the Lionheart mix is not in Steve's favor. The reward you'll get after risking your life doing the high is 19 dmg lol. I never said the new stance is "𝘣𝘳𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘢𝘥" please read properly i said that the new stance is lackluster, yeah you need to play the mind games but there are mind games on everything if you play tekken, my point is that the mix is not in Steve's favor. You may not know this but you can't cancel the stance transition except ub2 but the rest you can't cancel and you're vulnerable during the stance because you can't block. It's one of those things like Lee's d3 and d2 CH pickup that you'll drop it sometimes whether you like it or not and if i'm the Steve player i'll just do ws1,2 after the df2 CH because i can do what i want cause doing ws2,2 forces you to do the mix and it's the same damage with ws1,2. Btw 𝘸𝘵𝘧 is power punisher unblockable lol, please read what you're typing first because my 𝗯𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻 hurts while reading your comment and you're arguing that b2 35 damage is better than combo damage with a wall combo plus wall pressure after the wall combo huh? You're really funny. Btw the db3,2 is not removed but it's not that rewarding to do now because of the nerf.

Ain’t no way lmao

it's while standing 1

Aye relax

@thewall1302 he is on pc

found the narc

Bet this dudes is fun at parties

It is now

After b1 hold back to go to flicker stance then immediately hold f till the deep duck and press 1.

You tornado once they are about to get out of your hit range, so you can continue it. It goes launcher -> Filler > Extension > ender . Extension is toranado to make them bound. The more you hit them in the combo, the further they go away from you. Less hits mean they stay closer.

It is still possible and it doesnt involve any heat smash idk what u saw

Yes but it's inconsistent and doesn't work on some characters

@@OMAIR_8928 true true

It is

I made a guide: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gL51YNBozM2mpqc.html

Hey I finally got the timing for the ws 1 and I get the combo here and there lately I’ve been having inconsistency with the dash 31 2 2 input I miss on the last hit or don’t dash far enough and combo drops

That’s what’s killin me rn too

@@JohnGlow2best I can tell y’all is practice duck in cancels and ch df2 into wr12. It all just comes down to practice at the end of the day. 40k damage in and I’ve landed this combo 20 times

U can just do f22 after df 121

I was struggling very hard just now too I didnt get it once But then I practised for about 20 minutes now and it gets more consistent by the time Just practise practise practise, it will work eventually

you could do b1 after df1(2,1) for certain counter hits then follow up with f22,2 seems to work fine for me

I would suggest to keep trying. Steve is demanding to play, and FLK cancel into duck is one of the most important skills for this char. It enables some cool stuff :)

Yes, Do 12 after df121b

​@@filipwojcik2408i kept trying and i got it!!!!!!!

its not the FLK into duck thats hard, i think he meant cancelling the duck into ws1 while your opponent is literally about to hit the ground. @@filipwojcik2408

Practice the actual motion of the cancel first. Press df+3 then ASAP hold db until you're in a crouch position. Then add in the WS 1 punch right after you're in a crouch position Then practice doing that after the d/f+1,2,1 Once you get that chain down more, then try it in the combo again until you are consistently hitting the WS 1 You'll figure the timing out when you take it one step at a time. You got this!

All face buttons at once, you can customise your controls to bind it to a single button.

im having the same issue so hopefully someone will reply with an answer

@@easypeasygamers6885duck cancel (press down-back) after duck animation after every dash

@@easypeasygamers6885 I figured it out! If you want to get the double duck, make sure you hold back and go into Steve's flicker stance, if you do that it lets you hold duck.

Yeah same I figured that lol new to tekken . Was gonna right but yoh got it. Having a hard time now df1 2 1 into duck cancke wr 2

Press all 4 buttons at the same time. That's just for practice mode. That effect at the beginning just make ur move a counter hit in the practice. When both u and ur opponent press at the same time and ur hit connect first That's a counter hit. Some moves has different properties in counter hit. Like steve fox's Back 1. Then u can start ur combo.

@@OMAIR_8928 thank you so much

I will in next video. These were just normal launchers and counter hits.

@@OMAIR_8928 all respect brotha. You doing gods work by helping me win EVO

You compete in EVO? That's amazing

Yes

You approach closely and press 3, 1,2 into new stance then 2 , for wall carry f3 , 1

@@qa7d516 ye i found it out just gotta practice the timing thank you

U can just do f22 after df121. Don't do the f3 ws1

@@OMAIR_8928 Thanks, do you suggest down the line I should learn F3 cancel into WS1? Does it serves any solid function besides wall carry?

Getting the duck cancel is something you'll have to learn. Theres a bunch of video on how to learn to duck cancel. Almost all the new combos for Steve is T8 require knowing how to duck cancel.

Thanks! I've look up some guides from previous tekken games and started doing it (very inconsistently). I'll get there in time ! Thanks!@@TheEdomingo1

that move has to be a counter hit for it to launch

@@easypeasygamers6885 Yep I noticed this.

It seems he forgot

They were just for show u can do them by combining the other combos so I didn't added them 😅

you need to get the feel of steve at some point and start adapting like he did, thats the fun part, you dont always have to just stick to one string

Steve's heat combos are not really that much good but if he us in heat u can do insane pressure and 50/50's. But I'll do a heat combo too

Thank you!!!

I think it can only be canceled by f3db which is forward duck then cancel

After pressing 2+3 or the heat button just press back twice

@@OMAIR_8928 much appreciated

F3+4 is a stance whoch has launching moves. Like after inputting f3+4 we input uf2 for a big launcher or df2 for a small launcher

Well, u gotta find the timing urself. It's pretty easy after f3 just do db. Or hold down back after forward duck that's all

@@OMAIR_8928 what peripheral do you use?

By peripheral you mean which type of controller? I use Xbox Series X controller on PC

@@OMAIR_8928 gonna say with execution like that i did not expect the xbox controller :D

Iv been playing with Xbox controller for 3 years. So maybe that's why

I think you meant df 1 [2~1]

@@viennep oh yeah buddy thanks

Yes it's only -1. Super safe. The unblockable is +12 and the launcher uppercut is -12. Means that this stance has 3 safe moves and in heat a mid parry that forces the opponent into a guess throw break that is also has frame if the throw hits and the other throw has 50 damage and if it hits the wall it turns into 65. The stance is very strong

After u input df121 hold back so u will go I to flicker stance then quickly do duck

@@OMAIR_8928thanks but during ducking it’s hard to cancel to standing 1. Any tips?

You must be fun at parties

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steve b tier simply not true.. stance need a cancel tho

The stance is definitely not useless. Having a guard break, and safe mid options doesnt sound terrible/useless to me. He also has the ability to cancel into any of his bob/weave/sway options. He can also duck cancel into block.

@@reezer7603 heera malik best Steve in the world said the same

@@xer05tar guard break is useless when the most damage he can do afterwards is 112 or a sonic fang both with nerfed damage and ch launch/knock down removed. Heera Malik best Steve in the world himself said Steve is currently useless in T8. This is a game where Jack Nina King Paul Jin even Lars can get a huge launch after guard break leading to more combo damage than Steve's strongest combo. Due to removed launchers and knock downs Steve is getting dog walked and CH launched in the neutral by simple jabs from Jin,Kazuya,Jack,Paul,Azucena,King,Lars,Nina etc. Even lil majin said other characters have been overall buffed Steve has received more nerfs. Within the meta of the game where an average jab df2 launch combo from Jin Azucena and even Nina can do upto 50% Steve is looking pretty B tier RN when his hardest combo does 40-45%. It might get worse once DLC gets launched.

What a dramatic comment ...

Womp Womp

you dont have to technically say thats its the cracked demo you know

Bro Idk if it safe or not and I don't care about the channel. They can cancel it if they want. I just want to see peoples reaction to steve fighting style in Tekken 8 and maybe learn some stuff. But maybe it's safe cuz there is a lot of crack gameplay and nothing from namco yet.