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*Julien puts an arguable dabate* *Stevie repeating the argument in an mocking voice*

"my argument is: I mean come on" - Steve Nichol

They have statistics for this exact thing. Since the coach came in Liverpool becme the second best team in Europe at retaining possession from throw ins. 78% where as the season before he came they had retained 48% of the time. There is a whole Tifo video on this exact issue.

Arguing over the throw in coach, even if there's really one? Stevie, eat a Pie and chill.

clearly steve doesnt watch tifo football

Stevie is dead wrong on this. Before the throw in coach LFC retained possession 45.4% of the time off throw ins. only two teams in the prem were worse. Now they are retaining possession 68.4% of the time. only 1 team in all of europe does better and that team has the exact same throw in coach.

Klopp has brought professional surfer to cop for managing stress and dealing with panic. Klopp has a diploma in sports science, he knows that even a small detail can make difference at times. Steve should know that this is no longer the 80s where they'd party a day before the game

Stevie is wrong here and probably why he isnt in management. A throw in coach is too radical a concept for him, he should go watch Tifo footballs video on the topic

Is Stevie looking for a reason to be angry? Liverpool have extended their unbeaten run, gonna win the league and he’s going off due to a throw in coach. Why does it matter? They are winning!

At this point, they're keeping him at ESPN FC just for the laughs. Plonker.

Apparently he is a "set piece" coach, including throw ins, and all other set pieces. Definitely a valid and viable position to have in top level football.

Saying that throwing coaches dont make a difference when i never saw trent try long throwings until he came, and guess what that was a long throw, and we scored

From a throw in the average PL team keeps possession 49% of the time Liverpool keep possession from throw ins 68% of the time, the highest in the PL and 2nd highest in Europe Something to it

Stevie Nicole really grind my gears!

Shut up Stevie. It's scientific football vs pre-historic football of your days.

static proof that our throw ins lot better under new coach

Steve Nicol was clearly triggered.

The guys is not angry, he's just happy his team is in a winning position... After 30 years i would be happy too 😀 😀 finally going win ⚽..

got to go with Juls on this one, the goal against the Spurs also seemed like a set play from the throw-in

The boys having a field day on Stevie’s being mad 😭

I see many teams losing possesion cause of bad throw in. If a throw-in coach can make players to throw a) more accurate and b) longer distances, then that small detail can have an impact in a match. Klopp knows this and wants to rule out any small preventable factor than can lead to losing a match. At the end luck is ofcourse still an important factor , but never understimate a good preperation

Is been going on for sometime now....and I'm 100% with Stevie on this. Look and count: from 10 throw ins, Liverpool will win possession only ones! That's scary! To throw the ball on somebody head and expect that he will control it is madness. Is this part of the coaching routine?

With every big club having such specialized and scientific training staffs to squeeze every bit of production they can out of their players' natural talent, I think it's really smart to get someone in to maximize production in an overlooked part of the game. Yes, throw-ins are a relatively minor part of the game. Yes, the title of throw-in coach sounds silly. But when your wage bill for the year is already 9 figures, to pay someone £80 or 100k is peanuts for the improvement it has made to their throw-ins. Liverpool's just ahead of the curve as usual.

When Stevie said "throw in coach" in that mocking voice I actually died lmao

The way Steve says 'through in coach' is everything. 1:18

The stats don't lie Stevie. The throw in coach has made a quantifiable difference. Our possession off throw ins has massively improved and all the lads have added metres to the distance of their throws.

a failure coach (Stevie Nicole) criticizing successful coaches

"my argument is: I mean come on" - Steve Nichol we would only find out later that he had severe brain damage from his playing days

"What qualifications do you need to be a throw in coach?"😂😂😂😂 funniest but realest question I've heard

Somehow I don't think the throw in coach is solely responsible for throw ins. I think he's involved in corner kicks as well. But you can tell here just how old school Steve is. He actually believes everything is by chance. Klopp has everything running like clockwork. That's what makes players like Trent and Robbo just fit in. There is a clear cut system and detailed plan that the players go by and that includes throw ins and corner kicks.

Stevie is right you can work on things in train but what you do in a match is down to what you see in the match

When rival fans says Steve is always against their teams.. Hold your horses boys.. this guy played for LFC and did well. He still has a go at the team which has won 22/23 and 1 draw. The man is a born pessimist.

Steve Nicol shouldn't even be an analyst. He's just so biased that Liverpool don't do anything wrong in his eyes

I dont know why this nicol person still has a job..julien and gab are by far the most knowledgeable in this whole channel

*Throw ins happen more often than corners, and with the right training they can be just as lethal.*

Maybe Steve forgot that Liverpool scored from a throw in against spurs, and now they did against wolves. When games are closed a throw in can be an extra weapon like set pieces.

The way Stevie said Allergander-Arnold at 1:35 😂

“It just annoys me!” 😂😂😂

"Most of the time it's down to a player making a decision" uh yeah? And you can COACH better decision making into a player?????

Old man shouts at cloud, specialist coaches, and data analytics. Steve sometimes gets it right. This isn't one of those times.

It's fair to make an assumption like this when Gronnemark was first hired last season. Especially for a former player like Stevie Who played during a different time of fotball. However, now the numbers are clear. The training and expertise provided from Gronnemark has substantially improved the teams ability to keep possession from the throw-ins. That's all you need to know. Possession leads to more goals scored and less conceded. Fotball has gotten tighter and the margins between success and failure have never been smaller. Klopp of course knows this. Pundits are only entertainment figures, which job is to criticise, sensantionalise and give us a laughter now and then. Stevie is obviously doing his job as well....

Why did Steve get so upset?

I love you guys love the banter this shows the best

Steve nichol...the only reason I watch espn

Great bunch at ESPN FC...Keep up the great work gentelmen.

Steve Nicol on the field an absolute legend of the field not so much.

Stevie is usually a reasonable pundit but he’s sometimes out-of-date; good example of this here

The statistics speak for themselves. Avg possession after a throw-in under pressure in PL is 48%. Liverpool has 68% - earlier they only had 45%. They are 2nd in Europe only beaten by danish champions FCM. And guess what? Both teams have/had the same throw-in coach.

his name his thomas gronnemark. that small detail in klopp management

This clip is F'in hilarious!!

My team used long throw ins like set pieces and specifically corners. I could throw the ball in standing without a run up from sideline to sideline and where I wanted in the box accurately unless the wind was bad. It’s a menacing strategy especially when you have a few decent players that are great with headers

I feel like Stevie was pointing right at me in that thumbnail

I love Stevie's passion for LFC oooh reminds me of my passion and love for LFC!! We gonna Win The League Stevie

I came a year later just to hear Steve Nicole say "throw in coach"

I believe there was a video on how that coach was hired, and their success rate of throw ins went up by double digits.

Stevie dismissing anything he cannot understand, a true mark of a dummie

All of what Steve Nicol said is exactly why no one wants him as a manager anymore.

Stevie looks like he’s dropping an Oxford lecture in the thumbnail

Why does Stevie still think we are in the 80s. Can someone tell him he’s like 60!

The throw-in coach deserves plenty of credit for what he’s done in helping the team retain possession aside from these designed attacking throw-ins

I remember reading a newspaper column from the 1940s that labelled a player as being a "throw in expert". Being an expert does not make a player a specialist,but it is a handy attribute to have. Teams should take advantage of long throw ins when near the corner.

I agree with Stevie everything is on the field at that part players make a decision

Thomas Grønnemark held the world record for longest throw. That is enough qualification for me.

jules almost lost it :-)

1:17 lmaoooo

Just the fact that Klopp is saying something as simple as throw ins need to be perfect says a lot. And this is reason enough to pay for this type of coach. It’s changing the mentality of the players and the club. Too bad boomers won’t get the concept

Dude, that throw-in dummy run got the ball straight to where Wolves didn't think the ball was going. It was brilliant. I saw it and immediately thought what a great throw-in tactic

2 goals happened after a throw-in in recent weeks. This goal against wolves and the goal against spurs

That's your argument Stevie, Klopp is a very smart man getting throwing coach that's sports science now unlike your playing days Stevie.

The main reason they hired the guy initially is the distance of the throw. Since it involves hand postures and hand strength which footballers are not experts in, unlike the case of corners and goal kicks, they require specialist trainings.

Sometimes I don’t think Stevie is a Liverpool fan 😂😂

Class, the grumpy old man act is brilliant

Steve Nicol: Only watches Liverpool Julien: Watches several clubs across different leagues I think Julien is more qualified to talk about these things. The only reason Steve is on the panel is because he used to a “professional” football player

Old school Steve thinks by 1970’s football. My way or the highway. And the worst part is that him thinks he knows everything.

We all love Stevie , don't we?😂

Got to love Steve 🤣🤣🤣

Is it me or is Steve turning into Mike Meyer's Dad in "So I Married an Axe Murderer"?

Somehow I think that´s the exact difference between how United and Liverpool are run. Liverpool is professional everywhere, while United is rambling about the past with Martial smoking with the fitness coach at halftime, Shaw being in charge of in season nutrition, Rashford´s back being evaluated by a dentist, Ed Woodward scouting teams via YT videos and transfermarket stats (starting in mid January), while Matt Judge watches Wolf on Wallstreet to improve his negotiating skills.

Shut up Stevie the throw in coach deserves plenty of credit for the goal and his impact in helping the team retain possession more ofteb with quick throw ins. Clearly Stevie hasn’t seen the numbers

Liverpool almost always retain the ball after a throw in. Yes, we need a throw in coach.

And that’s why Steve Nicol hasn’t, and never will be a manager of a decent team in a decent league

Stevie is simply wrong here, it isn’t the primary reason they’re winning but everything is a factor, and throw-ins are quite common in football, and an important part of the game no doubt

I must say throw in coach huge success for Liverpool Trent, Robertson,gomez clearly benefitted we can see the difference from early days to now and also Trent is a midfielder and gomez is a centre back they had to learn throw ins

Let’s hear about Liverpool hacking Man City’s scouting database over 100 times. Where’s that story?

I love it when Steve, Shaka, and Ale are on the show together. Best combo.

Individuals clearly affect the play, but there is no doubt that the throw-in (and as a result, the throw-in coach's work) at affected the buildup to that goal (especially ball retention from throw-ins)

There’s a coach just for throw ins?😂😂😂 honestly never knew that

Just look at Mourinho comments from when we played Tottenham. He said they spent time practicing defending throw ins and was disappointed they conceded one. Reality is our throw in coach has made a difference. Get with the times

They would want to change their offside coach. You cant play a hi line against a team with quick players. They looked like they where going to lose that game. It looked so easy to break Liverpool offside trap. Good job we won in the end.

This is my favorite panel on espn ale Shaka and Stevie are hilarious

If it's part of the game that one can improve, then dedicating a coach for it should never be questioned. Matter of fact, I'd hire a Jujitsu coach to coach my players on how to dive correctly in case of dangerous / reckless tackles.

Only team in Europe which retains more throw-ins than Liverpool is FC Midtjylland, the other team that he coaches. We might not understand why or how, but the results speak for themselves.

Thanks for making me laugh guys...

Grønnemark's work is certainly paying off. Keep winning, you Mighty Redmen! YNWA

Jules needs to be at a better place like BBC. ESPN is toxic for a man of his intelligence

Jules is correct. Klopp pays attention to detail. Salah's double drag back and Hendo's pass to Firmino, world class.

stevie sound like rival fans mocking liverpool when we hired throw in coach. Look at second goal it started from throw in.

a throw-in coach clearly works, no need to knock it

If you’ve seen the piece about said throw in coach you know it’s just the throw in technique. To say it’s more than that is really naive. They work on movement on throw ins and corners and set pieces like any other team but a lot of the time movement is on the fly