Wilder does look bad because he older. Again notice how Big Baby was a name on your UK lips when talking about C Level Dubois. What about how he looked in Fury 1 & 3? Of Ortiz 1 & 2? Does he move the same he did in those fights?

@@chintuckedboxing7669 Ortiz is a journey man so let not talk about him, in the first Fury fight he did nothing except the two knockdowns except we are talking about another fight and don't forget that Fury was in a terrible shape. In the third fight, he fought with a lot of determination and heart not skill, he reverted back to his old self after the first knock down and was only fight on grit because of all the funny excuse he gave as to why he got beaten in the second fight. After Fury, he has only looked spectacular against a tomato can in Helanius and looked awful against the top guys. GIVE A REMATCH WITH HELANIUS, BREAZEALE AND ORTIZ AND SUDDENLY THE OLD KILLER WILDER WILL BE BACK AGAIN. What is happening is that he fighting guys several levels above him and the gap is glaring. Wilder is a boxer that only started taking serious damage from the Fury fight so he is not so damaged yet. I LOVE YOUR ATTEMPT TO DEFEND THE INDEFENSIBLE THOUGH

@@chintuckedboxing7669 Let's put Wilder vs Oritiz now if we will not not see a killer Wilder again

Big Baby was never on that level. You couldn't name one of his wins without using boxrec. You UK guys like to pick and choose when fighting C level opponents benefit a fighter.

@@chintuckedboxing7669Wow! UK guys like to fight C level fighters when that is what Wilder did all his carrier till Fury came along. Shelly Finkle said that Wilder was not experienced enough to fight Wladimir Klitschko after he became a champion yet AJ fought him with less fight and experience, AJ fought Breazeale years before Wilder, fought Parker that was undefeated, fought Charles Martin and Dalian Whyte that Wilder ducked for 2 years. Please let's not travle this road. If boxing was a corporate job, Shelly Finkle will be in jail for the fraud he committed in boxing through Wilder

@ochukocash Casuals.. calling Ortiz C level because Wilder beat him to then say Zhang was better competition because an older Wilder lost to him is the most casual thing I heard all week.

@@chintuckedboxing7669 If Ortiz and Zhang are to square up in the ring, who will your money be on? Let's start this conversation from there please.