How To: Properly Use and Understand Frequency Separation

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Steve Walter Photo

Steve Walter Photo

Күн бұрын

In This video I explain how to properly use Frequency Separation and what settings are needed to preserve 100% of all information when using a 16 bit image. I also include and breakdown and compare the settings suggested and used by others - specifically for 8 bit images along with explanations of why you shouldn't.
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@cormierphoto
@cormierphoto 3 жыл бұрын
I created my actions for frequency separation a while ago, saw your video, checked my apply image settings and sure enough I had the substract method for 16 bit. I fixed it and using the add method instead. Thanks learned something new today, even a small shift can cause issues
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Yes. I'm glad to hear that this helped. Thank you for sharing!
@benmarks7067
@benmarks7067 2 жыл бұрын
Dude! Such A good teacher! How the hell hasn't your channel blown up? Good stuff man
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! Thanks I’m glad you enjoyed it. Honestly I don’t put as much attention to this channel as I’d like to
@izzy9506
@izzy9506 5 жыл бұрын
I have just been introduced to the concept of frequency separation today through other videos and I had no clue why the recommended settings were being recommended. Frankly, neither were some of the people making the videos (and understandably so because photographers are not "scientists!") I have to say as someone who is very into math, science, metrics, and just wanting to understand how things work, this video was EXACTLY the type of explanation I was hoping to find on why these values should be what they are. Thank you!!!
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
That's so great to hear! Awesome. Thank you. I too found that most didn't go over this stuff, that's why I made it.
@jacksonhicks6171
@jacksonhicks6171 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for breaking this concept down for some of us new to photography. Like many others I saw videos on the topic but no one explained it as detailed as you did sir. Thanks a bunch.
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome. I really appreciate hearing that my thinking was helpful.
@bretthaddock8954
@bretthaddock8954 4 жыл бұрын
Steve, This was THE BEST explication I have seen. Thank you.
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
Brett Haddock you’re very welcome! I’m glad it was helpful
@gtrideout
@gtrideout 3 жыл бұрын
agreed. by far.
@jorgefiocchi
@jorgefiocchi Жыл бұрын
Hi Steve. My name is Jorge. I am a Photographer and I live in the city of Rosario, in Argentina. I want to congratulate you and thank you. Congratulations on your way of explaining concepts that were very difficult for me to understand. This is, without a doubt, the best video I've seen (and I've seen many) on Frequency Separation. You are an excellent teacher. And I want to thank you for your generosity in sharing your knowledge. Today I discovered this channel and I already subscribe and I will study your videos. Thank you so much!!! receive a cordial greeting from me. Jorge (George) (My English is not very good and I use Google translate. Sorry! 😅)
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto Жыл бұрын
Hey! Thank you so very much. I'm really happy to hear that.
@jorgefiocchi
@jorgefiocchi Жыл бұрын
@@SteveWalterPhoto Very Very excellent your video! Congratulations! 👏👏👏
@foreverdrift
@foreverdrift 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome tutorial - clarified things that some other videos I've watched made confusing head-scratchers! Thanks for uploading
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome. I'm glad it was helpful. FS is a very technical thing and it takes a while to wrap your head around it. Sometimes the tech approach is good. Sometimes we need a simplification. Cheers
@Lance_Magillicuddy
@Lance_Magillicuddy 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! I noticed that some frequency separation videos used the addidive method and some used the subtractive method. I wasn't sure whether it was a Mac versus PC thing or just six of one half dozen of another so this video answered my question. Just a thought from a viewer perspective. Towards the end when you were duplicating some steps maybe you could put the screen image back up; even if you're zooming through the steps I think it's more instructive to watch what's happening on your screen rather than just listening to you say what your doing; alternatively just do a jump edit and say I just repeated the steps I explained earlier in the video. But thanks again for this video and I hit the thumbs up and the Subscribe buttons!
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Glad it was helpful and I greatly appreciate the feedback .
@sjamz
@sjamz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the explanation, finally i can understand this.
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 3 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome! It’s a somewhat longer topic, but I’m glad you hung in there!
@hamidrezadanesh360
@hamidrezadanesh360 2 жыл бұрын
This one of is the best Skin Retouching tutorial I have ever watched. Thankyou
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 2 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks!!
@ronthehybrid
@ronthehybrid 11 ай бұрын
In the 3D world, High Frequency is like a Normal Map or Bump Map. Low Frequency is like Color map or Albedo Map
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 11 ай бұрын
Yes! Totally. Very similar in concept. Great connection
@adeusiiyanu5430
@adeusiiyanu5430 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for this steve, really insightfull and helpful
@oparesimon
@oparesimon 2 жыл бұрын
You've this concept, very easy to be understood. Thanks.
@zecchinon
@zecchinon 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats! 1k subs!
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 3 жыл бұрын
YES! Thank you. It was like a nice birthday gift! HA
@whogivesafuk8368
@whogivesafuk8368 4 жыл бұрын
Man I finally understand how this works thank you so much these other videos don’t explain it right
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
Couchtalk1of1 Thrash awesome!! I’m glad to hear it’s helpful!
@bala1000mina
@bala1000mina 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, Thanks for the great tutorial! I learnt a lot, God bless you man!
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Very much
@nigel134679
@nigel134679 4 жыл бұрын
Best tutorial I have seen on this subject
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhhh. Thank you! I greatly appreciate that.
@fabiankeppler315
@fabiankeppler315 Жыл бұрын
Would have liked to see the technical explanation, where you incorporate the wavelengths...
@moonoutlander9741
@moonoutlander9741 2 жыл бұрын
Today I tried to figure out how to scientifically check if there is a shift that I can see. You saved my day! Thank you 😊
@davedesmarais6262
@davedesmarais6262 Жыл бұрын
great explanation, thanks!
@michaostatek606
@michaostatek606 2 жыл бұрын
Dude! That's just the best!
@travelingtrekez7034
@travelingtrekez7034 11 ай бұрын
Been trying to understand this.. thanks
@ugeeugo2573
@ugeeugo2573 2 жыл бұрын
THANK U VERY PLENTY, I am very grateful.
@gooseneckful
@gooseneckful 4 жыл бұрын
Great video ! thanks !
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
You bet!
@retouchbystrength8080
@retouchbystrength8080 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Steve.
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome. I need to make a follow up on this actually showing the technique.
@jehhuty
@jehhuty 2 жыл бұрын
Loved that you mentioned preserving her birthmarks. I really don't like those plastic, robotic post that shows a person without any marks. It's boring, uninspired and kinda disrespectful with the subject.
@jorgefiocchi
@jorgefiocchi Жыл бұрын
Hello Stewe. I watched Heart Oliver's frequency separation 2.0 video and I was wondering if it's possible to download the action he uses. If so, could you tell me where to download it from? Thank you very much. Regards!
@L1ttleamylynn
@L1ttleamylynn 5 жыл бұрын
Finally I understand!
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! Awesome! I'm glad this was helpful.
@Ralph.L
@Ralph.L 5 ай бұрын
Hey Steve question here after I remove the texture part apply the image won't show up for me any pointers?
@alphonso_TV
@alphonso_TV Жыл бұрын
Best tutorial But, to apply image: Scale and offset refused to change!! What's the problem sir???
@fabian9566
@fabian9566 6 ай бұрын
@SteveWalterPhoto It is not my intention to offend you, but I am subscribed, my Like is number 994 and I have activated the bell to receive all notifications. You're a Photographer, The One and Only. I hope to learn and enjoy every moment with you. From a very far away land, my greetings to you and your family in this new year. Happy New Year Mr. #SteveWalterPhoto, may 2024 come to you with Prosperity, Peace, Love, Abundance, Health and may all your wishes and desires become reality. Truly Yours. Just. Fabian
@mvia236
@mvia236 4 жыл бұрын
Very clear explanation of a confusing subject.
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Very glad to hear. Thanks for the feedback.
@idconceptmedia5200
@idconceptmedia5200 2 жыл бұрын
But I saw in another tutorials that u can use dust and scratch too
@jateenkavita
@jateenkavita 4 жыл бұрын
Can you create a matte painting??
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
Jateen Patil personally I never have. Are you talking about paintings used as composite backgrounds in movies?
@Zulusango
@Zulusango 4 жыл бұрын
but hwat is a 16 bit image and how do you know does your camera tell you?
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
ZuluSango most cameras that capture a raw file actually capture a 14bit file. Slightly confusing, but when you open that raw file in photoshop it gets converted to either an 8bit or 16bit image. So, when it’s converted to a 16bit image, it’s still actually only 14 bit, inside a 16bit container. I hope that helps.
@lauriecorcoran4050
@lauriecorcoran4050 3 жыл бұрын
In Photoshop top left click on image then mode there it tells you what bit your working on! i always work on 16 bit because its better quality.
@jacksodudee
@jacksodudee 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know what I’m doing wrong but no matter what my image is always altered even though it shouldn’t be. I’m going crazy trying to finish this image.
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure what might be happening, but even if it’s not exactly 100% - I think the image will still be ok. Most wouldn’t notice it if they weren’t looking for it.
@NafisAhmed73
@NafisAhmed73 4 жыл бұрын
for the first time someone technically explained fs
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! And even still, I don't FULLY understand the algorithm behind it all, BUT... I'm glad this was helpful.
@sandyross2571
@sandyross2571 5 жыл бұрын
Great explanation - except - your video does not tell how to actually USE it. Your title should be How to Understand the Setup (only). Maybe I am missing some other subsequent post?
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
You're not missing anything. There are a lot of videos on the approach and technique. There wasn't any on the proper, use, method or setup. So, I can't deny that your point is valid. I suppose I should change the title. Thanks for your feedback!
@wilquorra
@wilquorra 8 ай бұрын
is the intro a remix of girlfront by loona? lol
@lamarrion
@lamarrion 4 жыл бұрын
when young the whole invert how come you don't just create a layer mask
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
lamarrion I’m not sure I follow your question exactly, but I do know this: there’s always more than one way to get the same results in photoshop. I’d always recommend using a workflow that works best for you. That’s the beauty of all this. You build on previous knowledge and workflows with new techniques. Hope this helps!
@Lee-ps9vh
@Lee-ps9vh 3 жыл бұрын
my image for low turned white.......
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 2 жыл бұрын
Ooo. Not sure if what happened that would cause that. I’d suggest trying the steps again.
@Catapumblamblam
@Catapumblamblam 5 жыл бұрын
You said you would explain why it should do it like that at 16 bit it should be done like that, but you didn't explain it! You simply said "because otherwise it is not precise". What a great explanation. xD
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Catapumblamblam - it’s short because it’s that simple. If you a want 100% accurate representation of the image after FS, use a 16bit image. If you use an 8bit image it’s going to be fine, really. BUT that is why I use a 16bit image. Thank for watching and I Hope that helps clarify.
@Catapumblamblam
@Catapumblamblam 5 жыл бұрын
@@SteveWalterPhoto hmm, maybe I didn't explain well. Why, technically, if we use 16 depth colors, this situation is changing? No others technics changes, but fs. I know, I already knew tha 16 bit need a different fs process and what is happening if I use the 8 bit process ina 16 bit image, but in would love to understand technically why.
@Catapumblamblam
@Catapumblamblam 5 жыл бұрын
It is not that if you repeat the same things 10 times, my question adapts to what you keep saying! I said that if you say: "I'll explane why images with 16-bit color depth require that method to be 100% accurate" you should explain WHY the other method is not accurate and not just "because is lesser accurate". See you
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Catapumblamblam oh. Gotcha. It’s because a 16bit image has more color information. So in the deconstruction and then reconstruction of the image, it’s able to preserve it completely. The apply image function is very specific with this technique. The answer to that would have to come from Adobe. I’m just interpreting the process. Hope this technique helps in your workflow!
@Catapumblamblam
@Catapumblamblam 5 жыл бұрын
@@SteveWalterPhoto you are saying the same thing. I'll study myself technically why those more information require that method. Thank same
@stopthink9000
@stopthink9000 Жыл бұрын
A lot of noise signifying nothing. I neither understand or know how to use anything covered in this video.
@mannyluna7733
@mannyluna7733 4 жыл бұрын
it's great, a little bit of a shift in color or buy a little bit powerful pc. It's your choice!
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
Manny Luna oh. Yea. Agreed. 16bit files are monsters and ram hogs. No question. 8 bit will work for probably 90% of everyone’s work. Mine included. This was just to show how to get it 💯, cheers.
@glen-draketoolworks7186
@glen-draketoolworks7186 5 ай бұрын
Like so many other presenters, you seem to think that you need a repetitive, i.e. irritating, sound track competing with your voice in order for voice to be heard.
@Hari-Photo-Videos
@Hari-Photo-Videos 3 жыл бұрын
Last few minutes of the video your face only has shown instead of the screen. why...
@KasianieLOT
@KasianieLOT 3 жыл бұрын
This music disturb...
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 3 жыл бұрын
Bummer
@taha_mirza
@taha_mirza 2 жыл бұрын
dude just use difference blend mode instead of useless check points bla bla bla
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! Thanks for the feedback. As I’m sure you’re familiar, there are multiple ways to achieve similar results in photoshop. Those markers in the case were, in fact, useful. Please do share a link to the video you’ve made using the difference blend mode. For sure I’d love to see it. Cheers!
@jaysigal9353
@jaysigal9353 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry for what I am about to say ... nevertheless, I simply do not understand why in the world you took SO long to muscle through a complex "technique", that through my eyes ... made no difference to the completed edited image from the way it looked at the very beginning of the video. What is the "fix" that was achieved? What was the "enhancement" that was achieved? What difference did all that work make, whether 8 bit OR 16 bit. I've watched this twice through and see no reason for the effort. It appears that the image looks exactly the same when finished, as it did before anything was done. Similar to this comment.
@randall42
@randall42 Жыл бұрын
@Jay Sigal Frequency separation is a means to an end, not the end result in itself. The difference is that once you've separated the color information from the texture information, you can edit the color of something in your photo without losing any of the texture, and you can edit or remove some texture without affecting the color.
@marvin..m
@marvin..m 4 ай бұрын
Great info. Super annoying and distracting music.
@DeeBrownLTD
@DeeBrownLTD 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, video is way too long and too much jargon. Tapped out
@SteveWalterPhoto
@SteveWalterPhoto 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. I really thought I kept my jargon to a minimum, It’s a somewhat complex topic so I wanted to cover the why and not just the how. There’s a bunch of other videos that talk about the how. And the comments in those videos ask why. So maybe I could try again with a happy medium of both.
@davedesmarais6262
@davedesmarais6262 Жыл бұрын
@@SteveWalterPhoto Can't make everyone happy.
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