Have you ever worked on a “Chibson - Chinese fake Les Paul” ? If so, what was your experience . I saw a luthier on the net that had a guy bring one in because the owner ended up separating the fretboard from the neck, trying to adjust the truss rod. The luthier said it wouldn’t be worth repairing it because it would cost more than the guitar is worth. So he and the owner decided to tear it apart and see what the problem was with the truss rod. The luthier found that the truss rod was actually welded in one piece and was non-adjustable right from the start and that’s why the owner broke the neck trying to turn it. I was just interested to hear if you’ve ever ran into one of these at your shop ? I got suckered into buying two of them, there is some buzz but I have to raise the bridge and/or put something under the A & low E strings to make it play better. I always enjoy your videos and I own a bunch of you tools. They work 👍

@@flashy5150 One came into a shop my brother used to work at for a set-up one time. But unlike yours, he said this one was an extremely well built counterfeit-everything worked and played just as good as the real thing, including the truss rod. He was shocked. I guess things coming out of China really are a crap-shoot.

@@haikuomusic It seems so. Theres also another vid explaining why it probably doesnt work (th one of the fender mustang. Good Luck!!!

@@jsullivan2112 Often good counterfeits are made in the US or Europe, not china. Slashes "Famous black Les Paul" was not made by Gibson, and actually better than a Gibson.

@@Bob-of-Zoid I don’t think you have any idea where this particular guitar I’m referring to came from. You didn’t see it,

The misconception though is that truss rods fix action. Truss rods are only to set the proper amount of relief for the target action to want to achieve. Higher action=slightly more relief while the lower the action, the straighter the neck. Neck relief first, then in a perfect world nut or bridge can be next. Nut slots are also pretty non-negotiable, they're either right, or wrong

#Me too! Lol. That's funny as hell to me because I feel exactly the same and said as much. Check out "twoodfrd" channel. He's another Bob Ross luthier. I don't play or work on guitars but love watching these cats.

Yes mate Twoford is good..lm about to fix a broken headstock.. it's an Epi LP Custom, to take it to a luthier wd be more than its worth.

Took the words right out of my mouth!

@@baabaabaa2293 well.......I hope you video the job and post it so I can watch!! Lol. You never know!

What a legend, great personality and a great video , aive learned a lot and got entertained in the process! Thank you 🙏🏽🇦🇺

Thanks Austin!

@@stewmac on an acoustic guitar if the neck is straight but the action in the middle frets approximately 9 through the last fret is too high, doesn't that mean the bridge is too high? Shaving down the bridge saddle to perfectly level is the solution?

Hey Austin it's great to see you get your advice from Dan Erlewine. he's probably the best there is. you can't go wrong with him. I have learned a lot from him.

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Fancy seeing you here Austin

He must be protected at all costs

​@@ramencurry6672ur so lame

That's what we're here for! Thanks so much for tuning in.

Absolutely! That book is essential for any luthier's library!

He's a master teacher! Thanks for watching!

I was just waiting to hear that… SNAP!

@@jackhargreaves1911 me too! Job security though lol, they know someone who does headstock repairs 😉…

I’m pretty sure Dan knows what he’s talking about

@@johnwhitaker545 good one, Yes we know Dan is the man but that doesn’t change the fact that gibsons are very fragile in that area…

@@braderrick unfortunately, I’m no stranger to the inherent weakness of Gibson’s headstock area. I always found it funny that it’s referred to as break angle

Agreed! Such a valuable tool for this kind of work.

I don't understand why anyone would say "using the truss rod will destroy your guitar." That's almost like saying "changing your spark plugs will destroy your car."

Fear the truss rod unless you know what you’re doing. The metal that the truss rod is made of isn’t strong enough to move a neck that is too far out; that’s why you have to use clamps and leverage to force it back to level (or a little beyond). The truss rod will keep it from returning and can make finer adjustments, especially if it’s being loosened. It breaks because people think they can force it and the metal or the threads can’t take that amount of force. Every mechanic knows that leverage can strip threads, or even break a bolt. That’s one of the reasons they use torque wrenches.

@@robinleebraun7739As with all things, use common sense. Nothing on a guitar should be forced after its built. And always know you're limits. I've only stripped 1 truss rod in 40 years, and that was on a bowed and twisted early 70's Jazz bass. That was back in the late 80s while in college. I bought the bass dirt cheap for parts because the neck was a mess. I did the lubing the nut & threads, clamping, detuning and a few other tricks to adjust that neck. Even heat pressed the neck. It was unsalvageable and I knew that it would probably snap or strip going into it, and It did strip. I primarily mess with basses and bass necks being longer tend to move more and need slightly larger adjustments as a rule. Maybe I'm lucky, but I've done so many setups and truss rods are really not difficult to adjust. Maybe I'm mechanically inclined growing up in the 70s when folks fixed things more (cars, TVs, etc). There is a bit of common sense involved. So I'll add 5 rules.... 1. If a nut is extremely tight, there's an issue. 2. Using a cheater bar on the truss rod wrench is bad because you should not have to fight the truss rod. 3. If it feels a gritty or grinding while turning that's not good. 4. If someone is really afraid of or uncomfortable adjusting it, or if its a valuable vintage instrument, take to a qualified professional. 5. Most important, the truss rod WILL NOT fix a badly bowed neck. Its for adjusting a good neck.

Agreed.

Thank you very much! That means a lot to us! 😎

Thanks and welcome!

You're very welcome! Thanks for tuning in!

Excellent! Great to hear that.

Thanks a lot!

Thanks 👍

which book of his did you get?