STI vs. EVO - Which is ACTUALLY better
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The never ending car meet parking lot debate; Subaru WRX STI versus Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution. We break down the STI and EVO from the fast and furious EVO VII to Baby Driver’s Hawk Eye WRX STI. From the Lancer Evolution’s Iron block 4G63 to the signature Impreza WRX STI flat 4 engine. Join Joey as he leaves no stone unturned either tarmac or gravel; lets see who the real 4 door/boosted 4 cylinder is the real victor.
Versus puts two automotive giants toe to toe as Joey Rassool tallies up points to see who is the victor. Anything from heritage, performance, and even availability are taken into consideration. You can argue with him all you want but you can't argue with the numbers.
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@Donut 4 жыл бұрын
What other rivalries do you wanna see?
@carlososorio7645 4 жыл бұрын
350z vs g35 lmao
@nasafan23dl44 4 жыл бұрын
Mustang vs. Camaro
@gluee8674 4 жыл бұрын
supra vs r34
@owensmith2761 4 жыл бұрын
Mustang vs Camaro
@richvanceljemg.aldover7819 4 жыл бұрын
Supra vs r34 vs rx7
@garnicamark2892 4 жыл бұрын
FACT: OWNERS OF STI AND EVO RESPECT EACH OTHER. ONLY FANBOYS DON'T
@_Jesus1221_ 4 жыл бұрын
Garnica Mark 100% facts
@Arelia39 4 жыл бұрын
That's a true fact indeed... Respect...
@nicholas5139 4 жыл бұрын
I legit wave and look at Evo owners when I drive my WRX, and I always get a nod or a pull by them to hear their exhaust or something. I legit never experienced the hate ever.
@_Jesus1221_ 4 жыл бұрын
Nicholas I always wave at subies haha, I’ve never not once not waved back lol, we always wave at each other, I’ve literally had some pull up to wherever I end up going and telling me “your evo x is clean” and then we end up becoming friends haha subie to evo love is real
@iaingartshore1578 4 жыл бұрын
FACT!
@EvoAlfie 4 жыл бұрын
As an evo owner I love it when WRXs and STIs give me the wave 👋 I’m glad to see the rivalry become a brotherhood. At the end of the day we go sututu
@fishnchips5826 3 жыл бұрын
Aww man... i wanna wave or honk to an evo or other sti 😔 sadly most evo here is sold for almost like 60-67k usd. I drive a '13 wrx sti hatchback btw 🤘🏾😬
@erikpatricksson3348 3 жыл бұрын
One sututu ✊🏼
@ArtDamage911 3 жыл бұрын
@@fishnchips5826 I really wish they'd continue the STI and/ or WRX hatchbacks... I think they look way more unique and mean than the sedans.
@Vroom1121 3 жыл бұрын
I just wave at every JDM modified car in my WRX. Sometimes I get a confused look, sometimes I get a wave back haha
@fishnchips5826 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtDamage911 thats exactly the main reason why i bought the hatchback 😅
@Flex030 3 жыл бұрын
As a WRX owner I love it when evo owners acknowledge me. It is a love of cars not war. Both cars are fun and exciting to own.
@deathtoming2201 2 жыл бұрын
@Alexander Sterling bet you don’t even own either of them lol
@Aj_470 2 жыл бұрын
Vlog or it never happened...
@IAMMRONALD 2 жыл бұрын
stop lyy
@johni4591 Жыл бұрын
Sti is better
@joshhoff2923 8 ай бұрын
Why wouldn’t they. Only a retard would hate someone because of a type of car they drove lol
@ApolloGP 3 жыл бұрын
its funny because us car owners love both and look at them as siblings, yet those without a drivers license manage to judge one over the other
@NGKGMR 4 жыл бұрын
I see them as brothers, not enemies
@Wabeeninc 4 жыл бұрын
Damn right
@abdulhadisaleh5963 4 жыл бұрын
Sisters*
@currythegoatofmankindthepa5156 4 жыл бұрын
Cousin's
@Madblaster6 4 жыл бұрын
Still Rivals
@Delita22 4 жыл бұрын
family
@Turbo.RF4 4 жыл бұрын
Evo's are red Subie's are blue But we all know They go both *bra-brap stututututututu*
@TheMattyPoppins 4 жыл бұрын
They're different sides of the same shit sandwich?
@Vrilltrooper-of-sillymaxxia 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMattyPoppins I have a NA subie though
@TheMattyPoppins 4 жыл бұрын
@@Vrilltrooper-of-sillymaxxia I feel bad for you?
@doublewishbone_ 4 жыл бұрын
lmao
@hughneutron5303 4 жыл бұрын
@@Vrilltrooper-of-sillymaxxia WELL WHAT ARE YOU DOING, SLAP A SNAIL ON THAT BAD MAMAJAMMA AND LET 'ER EAT!
@Downstriker559 3 жыл бұрын
I've owned both, started out with STi's, got my first Evo, and now I'm never looking back. Although I do love the sound of a good boxer.
@benschreiner7367 2 жыл бұрын
Owned an 04 STI and an 06 EVO MR; would take the MR every time.
@jermainejackson2870 Жыл бұрын
@@benschreiner7367 why I'm asking because I'm thinking of making a project car!
@daturbo4life711 Жыл бұрын
@@jermainejackson2870 I guess everyone is different, see for me I owned a gsr and now 06 STI. I’d pick the STI over the Evo In my experience owning both : Evo is cheaper to get more hp out of the engine 4g63 is a strong engine, but spend $$$ on the transmission/drivetrain if ur looking for big hp Where’s the STI it’s opposite, drivetrain/transmission is almost bulletproof but have to spend $$ on the Engine (EJ25) for being weak for it to hold high hp reliable It’s really just pick ur poison. But end of the day they are both awesome cars to drive!
@Jez4prez1 Жыл бұрын
@@daturbo4life711 import a Spec C EJ20 STI, and all your problems are solved. This is the platform to build a very good Subaru on, and it smokes EVOs (JDM STI's have been smoking EVOs for decades). And the prices of them are actually very reasonable these days too. You get the best of both worlds, the chassis is better than standard STI (much better than EVO chassis also), the drivetrain still almost bulletproof (like you said on the normal STI), but now the motor is almost bulletproof too.
@daturbo4life711 Жыл бұрын
@@Jez4prez1 The Ej207 is such a great engine. Legit smokes Evos, stock for stock. And yes I’m terms of Engine for my car. I’ve gone one better on my STI, got a forged Closed deck short block. (EJ257) Upgraded Turbo, have no issues with it whatsoever, and no problems smoking my friends Evos 😉
@SomethingVISCID 3 жыл бұрын
True rivals don't hate - they drive each other to become better.
@dbstherollers8106 2 жыл бұрын
I’m the only one in my group of WRX and STI’s friends that has a evo 9 and it’s all love no hate 👌🏽💯
@pedrobarnez5502 4 жыл бұрын
evo dissapears from market: "bummer" focus rs shows up on the sceen: "theres choices again!" focus dissapears from market:😐
@NightcrawlerNC 4 жыл бұрын
In the uk they are still massively produced
@juancarlospalomino8939 4 жыл бұрын
very cool cars, but they don't sell well in america, SUV's, crossovers and trucks are selling a lot and that's what manufacturers will keep making
@TehClassifiedEagle 4 жыл бұрын
American ford are stupid.
@44actual 4 жыл бұрын
This is so true that I might actually cry.
@YuShawStang 4 жыл бұрын
@@juancarlospalomino8939 I though Focus RS sold too well. I have seen plenty complaints that dealers marked up a few thousands on top of MSRP.
@Supertuner 4 жыл бұрын
“I’m not crying you’re crying” when the evo funeral scene started 😭
@SpecVBlue 4 жыл бұрын
Get these freaking onions away from me
@TrentsOutdoorTreks 4 жыл бұрын
Mitsubishi is so fringe lately. First they make the eclipse a crossover. Now they plan to make the Evo a crossover. Mitsubishi hates their customers.
@coleburgos1610 4 жыл бұрын
The I wanted to scream when I saw the suv, horrible
@crapfox2464 4 жыл бұрын
Me too
@mateohernandez8317 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly same EVO was the first love
@61fordf2504x4 Жыл бұрын
After watching the latest Hi/Low series Im inclined to go with the Evo regardless 😅
@jjman532 Жыл бұрын
Its not the cars fault. Most subs are relatively pretty bullet proof, but they were running a new engine to the limit without proper break in time. Not to mention subi bros aren't know for their care of their vehicles very well so hard to tell what maintenance was like before they purchased them. Don't let that one example stick out many subis can push 300,000 miles before getting any issues if they are cared for.
@cosmic_emg5696 Жыл бұрын
I have a bugeye with 240k on it hasnt given me too serious problems just regular maintenance stuff
@legoguy5944 Жыл бұрын
Well that's the curse of old Subies
@deankomadina253 Жыл бұрын
@@cosmic_emg5696 I also have a bugeye but with 281K on it and it hasnt given me many issues either other than regular maintenance, quite a bulletproof generation
@marmedalmond9958 Жыл бұрын
@@legoguy5944 what about a 2007 hawkeye subaru impresario sti?
@btuttle8 Жыл бұрын
12:43 Actually aged really well as that's exactly what's happening with the WRX, no sti version, looks weird imo, and it's probably gonna become electric in the next few years.
@yappers7038 4 жыл бұрын
STI: I have won “But at what cost?” STI: the head gasket
@1slashwylde 4 жыл бұрын
Your thinking of NA subaru engines
@schizofennec 4 жыл бұрын
Stis don't blow gaskets since they changed the design years ago
@aiden6843 4 жыл бұрын
@@jimmer411 it's not common but it still happens depends how the person drives it as well
@jdmking4776 4 жыл бұрын
@@jimmer411 Well you're coworker is a nitwit then. Maybe if he didn't Ricky race the shit out of it then he would have a different outlook. The only engines that have head gasket failure as a result of a factory defect are the ej251, ej252 and the ej253. The single overhead cam has internal head gasket leaks, and the dual over head cam has external leaks.
@RichRusso4218 4 жыл бұрын
@@schizofennec Lmfao, FALSE!!!
@WolfHreda 4 жыл бұрын
"I daily an FRS and track a Yaris." *This is the way*
@Exzalian 4 жыл бұрын
Yaris hilton?
@zurielvalladares5947 4 жыл бұрын
As soon as he said that I knew the STI was gonna win
@CapeRides 4 жыл бұрын
Lol I read that in mandalorian voice 🤣👍🏼
@Exzalian 4 жыл бұрын
@@CapeRides why lol
@shuabugay 4 жыл бұрын
@@CapeRides i totally see that!
@timkenda8203 2 жыл бұрын
I've always loved both; a good friend of mine owns an EvoX, and he's done all sorts of work to it and it's BEAUTIFUL! I also had a friend that had an STI with about 20k worth of engine and suspension mods and he used to tape a 20 to the dash and put people in the back,and if you could grab the 20 before he hit 60 you could have it. I don't remember anyone actually being able to grab the money lol
@PowerfulE 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an Evo guy, but I also love Imprezas, the Hawkeye especially.
@allcore5172 3 жыл бұрын
Hawk eye spec b owner 🦄🦄
@janmullner6765 3 жыл бұрын
That's the way dude don't hate on each other see the best thing of both
@rooklink808 3 жыл бұрын
Bugeye for me ever since the wagon came out back in the day.
@cay7809 2 жыл бұрын
I like 22Bs
@Rumblefan 2 жыл бұрын
@@rooklink808 yup. Bugeye is the best. I have a blobeye sti right now, but I miss my blue bugeye
@maskedguyplays4814 4 жыл бұрын
Evo vs STI is like asking people which side of boob they'd choose. Everyone would take both.
@Sn0wyriot 4 жыл бұрын
MaskedGuyPlays lmao I rather have a bullet proof dsm instead a pos that lives in the shop more then on the road
@bnrlife3213 4 жыл бұрын
Rather stick with my r32 tho, even if sti and evo are the different sides of boobs the gtr would have to be the 3rd base😂
@marcel6773 4 жыл бұрын
Fucking agree 😂
@DaveGee420 4 жыл бұрын
But can't afford
@jdm132 4 жыл бұрын
Not unless one side is saggier than the other
@apophisstr6719 4 жыл бұрын
Mitsubishi can just bury themselves if they're gonna turn the EVO into a crossover.
@everydayfullofrandomness5475 3 жыл бұрын
You can burry your mamma
@maksim.7361 3 жыл бұрын
Its not its probably going to be a awd hatch I think
@AngeloDenwillPetate 3 жыл бұрын
Hope not or worst turn Evo into a freaking Electric SUV like how ford did it.
@Mike-uo2gg 3 жыл бұрын
I drive a 4th gen eclipse they turned that into a crossover which is BS they should give that a different name
@caleb580 3 жыл бұрын
they wrecked the eclipse to
@vebastiansettel1173 Жыл бұрын
Both are a great car, but evo handling is just pure bliss for me.
@mouneebak2078 Жыл бұрын
funny because the wrx handles better, lighter and the the flat 4 gives it lower centre of gravity, both are amazing cars in the end though
@vebastiansettel1173 Жыл бұрын
@@mouneebak2078 I drive amateur rally in my country I'm somewhere in Asia. Just small modification like suspensions and some basic tuning. My experience driving both car in gravel evo is easier to drive than subaru. I myself have and drive evo 4 and this car is just a sweet spot for me. Subaru wrx 2004 is great but I just can't seem to carried more speed in the corner than my evo. But maybe I just adapt better because the evo is my own. Sorry for my bad English tho
@mypie2473 6 ай бұрын
@@vebastiansettel1173Your english is great and amazing information!
@esg_zom3319 2 жыл бұрын
Met an owner of a sick evo at work (WRX owner here), and we were both in love with each other’s cars. At the end of the day, they’re both AWD sedans that sound and drive great.
@shadowspiritgaming4929 4 жыл бұрын
"I daily an FRS and track a Yaris" Me: *confused ooga booga*
@BK-mv2mk 4 жыл бұрын
BooglA booga booooo
@Duraputer 4 жыл бұрын
A Scion FRS has a Subaru boxer engine in it, so that mean he already has a bias for Subaru.
@VeliRajasaar 4 жыл бұрын
@@Duraputer The FA20 could barely be accused of creating bias, nothing to really write home about... It's the chassis and its balance that allows for great fun :)
@betterwithrum 4 жыл бұрын
Going fast in slow cars is way better than going fast in fast cars. Repairs, parts, insurance. Wreck a Yaris on the track, no cares. Wreck an Evo on the track and that’s a bad day.... check out how many car journalists own Fiesta ST. One of the best and under rated cars ever. MSRP was under 15k new
@TheTyler8848 4 жыл бұрын
Sad unga bunga
@TakumisBizarreRacingAdventure 4 жыл бұрын
He said that the Evo died a hero while the STI is still alive but getting fatter day by day. *You either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain* P.S.: I just wanted to say this line, not taking any sides lol....evo or subaru.
@defyingtheodds1987 4 жыл бұрын
Akina Hachi Roku yup and it’s rarity is less.
@NatedoggZombies 4 жыл бұрын
Or you live long enough to get fatter
@bijan4697 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 WRX and it’s not even that heavy. I weighed it on a truck scale and it came in at 3,000lbs - lower than what it was advertised at.
@user-uc3yn3ku2x 4 жыл бұрын
202Xcorolla+flat4+awd-reliability-mpg＝202X impreza
@postalpancho 4 жыл бұрын
ummmmm the Evo weighs more than the STI!!!! HAHAHA bigger doesn't mean heavier. With newer production technologies cars can be made bigger, lighter and stiffer. This is a plus in the Subarus favor. Sorry EVO guys, you actually have the fat car.
@cheesypnut9827 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, i could never pick any between these two, i love both to death.
@joebidden4914 3 жыл бұрын
Having owned 2 Evos and 2 STI's, I can say they are both great cars and excellent fun and handle amazingly. The performance edge for handling and power and cost per HP for upgrading goes hands down to the Evo. Evo is much more reliable and costs way less to modify. I also like that the driving system you don't have to pin the throttle to hold a drift and let the car work it out for you, fluctuating the throttle kills the slide unless your on the ice/snow. STI is hands down more comfortable to ride around in, has better road manners and looks great. It's still fast, still handles very well, but unless you have driven an Evo you won't realize how much better the Evo handles.
@wooshyB 3 жыл бұрын
As a turbo subaru owner, an evo is a diamond in the rough. Something special about seeing them even with the bias
@natequillin4365 3 жыл бұрын
I love a clean evo, but I'm wrx/Sti all the way!
@Rumblefan 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I’ve owned 2 wrxs and currently drive an sti. I see and wave to other subies all the time, but I hardly ever see evos, and when I do, it’s like spotting an exotic car cause I maybe only see a few of them a year out in the wild. Only at car shows or events do I see a decent amount of them. Just out on the street, I never see them, and when I do, I’m never in my subie to give them a wave ☹️
@18dyl 2 жыл бұрын
If WRX/STI production ended it would be the same
@merki8290 2 жыл бұрын
Diamond in the rough
@Rumblefan 2 жыл бұрын
@@18dyl if production ended when the evo did, Subaru pretty much wouldn’t have the 2015-2021 model, which is indeed the most common, but I still see wrxs/stis from 2002 to 2014 more often than all evos, especially the 2004 sti I see every single day while I’m driving it 😂
@SeventhShadow27 4 жыл бұрын
"You can argue with me all you want, but you can't argue with the numbers" But... you chose the numbers
@Zaberdutton 4 жыл бұрын
THE Sandman I also happen to think that 2nd round was weird. He was like Evo was better here and Evo was better there but STI wins. I was like huh?!?
@equiman85 4 жыл бұрын
Right? What a joke.
@bryaneff 4 жыл бұрын
Accurate about 350 being the upper limit of the EJ engines.. 450 for the Evo engines? Bitch please. There are many many many people driving around with 500-600AWHP on the 4G and 4B platform daily driving. The bias is very real
@ppanosggian8633 4 жыл бұрын
@@bryaneff he said 350 with stock engine is recomended...you can go higher ofc but the stock engine may explode in any time
@TGCampbell8 4 жыл бұрын
Blayzie ya probably with a rebuilt t case too
@edang352 2 жыл бұрын
I really like seeing other people that aren’t James or Nolan, it’s really refreshing
@NoelKunz 2 жыл бұрын
I love both and grew up loving both. I’ve always tended to like the Subaru slightly better in every generation except the Evo 9. I just freaking LOVE the Evo 9. But you can’t lose with either. Such amazing cars. It’s all in preference.
@ivandiaz8385 4 жыл бұрын
"The STI keeps getting fatter" "the STI has no purpose to stay fit. It has lost its motivation. XC
@postalpancho 4 жыл бұрын
ummm, Golf R, Focus RS, Civic Type R, Veloster N?..... competition is tighter than ever and to be honest with you as a Subaru owner myself I don't think we are winning. I think the only reason people buy a Subaru now is because we have one of the best import communities.
@CSEabdulalimkhan 4 жыл бұрын
@@postalpancho take those and a imp on a rally track and you'll see that there aren't much competition.maybe abit from the focus rs.but that's it.
@wPJyat 4 жыл бұрын
@@postalpancho snapback wearing vapers don't buy any of those cars.
@nathanreyes4309 4 жыл бұрын
@@postalpancho For winter areas, the FWD options are removed. But I genuine am impressed by the Veloster N and the Type R.
@chewser117 4 жыл бұрын
@@nathanreyes4309 The Civics actually do really well in the snow. I sold my WRX a couple of years ago and switched to a newer Civic Si, with the limited slip dif both tires bite right down allow you to go. While it's not as nice as my old WRX in the snow it wins in every other department except for sound.
@michaelsookoo3927 4 жыл бұрын
Conclusion: STI and EVO are great, just grab both
@crow9149 4 жыл бұрын
But I'm poor :(
@st0nrfox564 4 жыл бұрын
I'd choose the 2006 WRX sti turbocharged 2.5 flat 4
@noodlah_ 3 жыл бұрын
only if i could find somewhere to buy
3 жыл бұрын
@false prophet mohammed is a pedophile I own a evo bro and used to own a sti
@mdntwlf2902 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@MusicLover1049 Жыл бұрын
One thing that should be elaborated on regarding the stock bottom end power figures you provided: the 350 HP for STi and 400 HP for Evo is wheel horsepower not at the engine.
@Max-uj1kg Жыл бұрын
ive never been super into cars but this is really interesting. good video 👍
@alecnoel3213 4 жыл бұрын
They rated Evos lower so that the price doesn’t go up any higher for them lol
@bubbles1525_ 4 жыл бұрын
Evo is a better cars, I go to a Subaru/toyota shop and the mechanics there say save your money modding a Subaru lol
@yohan1902 4 жыл бұрын
killa bubbs25 Better engine yes but shitty trans, tcase, drivetrain, etc.
@bubbles1525_ 4 жыл бұрын
@Bob Saget Facts
@bubbles1525_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@yohan1902 it's bc it makes more power, sti trans is the same thing
@bubbles1525_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@yohan1902 when a car makes more power the more things will break
@myleshicks2873 4 жыл бұрын
"You couldn't have an STI without Mitsubishi" *Proceeds to discuss all of the AWD tech Mitsubishi pioneered* *Score: "Same for this category"* Me: Umm?
@derp_wolf9688 4 жыл бұрын
Myles Hicks ikr. That category makes no sense. The evos were faster for soo long. And comparing the track times because that sti was a few years newer
@carfreakjim 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts. Would have made the ending better as well if the evo won that part. Everybody into these cars knows one isn't better as the other, it just depands which one you personally like better.
@samunaesi7727 4 жыл бұрын
That and also the culture part don't make sense.
@Gnefitisis 4 жыл бұрын
Let's get it straight, Subaru's reputation is built on AWD (in all models but Toyotabaru) while Mitsubishi not so much.
@yaboyg2049 4 жыл бұрын
I dont understand how he put the new evo suv concept into this, it isnt even out yet and he just put it there as if it ruined everything.
@m7md408 3 жыл бұрын
There has never existed a more beautiful rivalry.
@stevenblackwell7744 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Subie driver myself, I've always owned a Subaru, but I would absolutely LOVE an Evo if I could find one. Preferably an early 90s model because those are my favorite era of cars.
@Jesus-ss2rn 4 жыл бұрын
Im a evo guy, but you know its a ying and yang story I respect the Sti but my heart is with the Evo. We should love the car community and forget all the haters. We ALL LOVE CARS
@ZhunterPLUR 4 жыл бұрын
Except hondas even ap1 and 2 have that shit storm double wishbone out back
@evansorensen 4 жыл бұрын
Facts
@Joshuaairsofter 4 жыл бұрын
I drive a evo and I'm the same I'll always give a subie a wave and yeah my hearts with the evo but a good subie rips
@ernodios 4 жыл бұрын
I'm on the EVO team but every time I see a Subaru on the street, you bet it turns my neck as well. Respect!
@alxgu198 4 жыл бұрын
Well said Jesus 😁. I have a Subaru myself but I love both. Both great cars, it’s the rivalry that created them.
@hathaway.1166 4 жыл бұрын
That debate ended the moment Mitsubishi killed off the Evo. But. I love both.
@molotovjon6788 4 жыл бұрын
Alan Golden I believe that was due to sales though a car can sell poorly and still be better than other cars
@eddiegaytan236 4 жыл бұрын
I'm an Evo dude and I agree.
@danielbartek9194 4 жыл бұрын
@@molotovjon6788 i heard it was because they didnt have money for that project and also that nissan owns them and they think what people want is crossovers im not sure if the second part is real but i heard somewere
@JakubSvoboda23 4 жыл бұрын
Alan Golden :(
@befer 4 жыл бұрын
Wait they did ?
@ElliotMelloy Жыл бұрын
These comparisons mean nothing because you can pick whatever 5 categories you need to make sure the final score is close with only one point between them. You could pick 5 different categories and make either car look way better than the other one. Personally I just prefer the Evo, it's always been better looking, better handling and easier to work on.
@khaos3690 3 жыл бұрын
I love my STI, but I've been looking for an Evo for a long time to add along side of it. Nothing but love all around.
@Freegrem 4 жыл бұрын
I love how on the internet we absolutely “hate” each other but every time i hit the track me and the sti guys are instantly best friends. Lol and im an evo guy and my little bro is an sti boi idk how we end up with either
@Niranjan04 4 жыл бұрын
That's why we're car guys 👍👍
@77xyu94 4 жыл бұрын
Lol i am more to jdm while my bro is fan of murican muscle but we actually fights a lot😂
@Neishy4AGTE 4 жыл бұрын
That's the internet for ya.
@jerodwolford2743 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair I dont think you can like one and not like the other. Evos and sti's are just cars you cant help but like unless you're a boomer who thinks if there isnt a v8 it isnt fast. This is also coming from a dodge guy.
@guibaesa 4 жыл бұрын
I dare you to make this video: Supra vs. Skyline.
@arthursalomao9042 4 жыл бұрын
You'll start a war mate hahaha
@TacoTourist 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly both had great motors but that dam 2jz gte is something else with saying that I'd love to see ford barra motor vs 2jz gte
@deek1701 4 жыл бұрын
Shut up
@dreadone6894 4 жыл бұрын
The Mitsubishi 3000gt better than both
@rayo8190 4 жыл бұрын
how original
@speedyham545 2 жыл бұрын
Nice "All Aspects" decal on a Cali car @10:19. Cheers to my favorite builder, racer, and tuner.
@wisdomspirit3159 3 жыл бұрын
I love both of them... but evo allways has a special place in my heart.
@wisdomspirit3159 3 жыл бұрын
@DYLAN CHAHMIRIAN Nah man. Dont have time rn
@sdewey4152 4 жыл бұрын
"If you don't rumble down the driveway are you even a subi bro?" The answer is; No.
@VeteranShark 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot the subie wave too!
@cade_44 4 жыл бұрын
VeteranShark the heartbreak when they don’t wave back😥
@TimberWulfIsHere 4 жыл бұрын
Cries in stock exhaust
@glennwilliams3692 4 жыл бұрын
😥 how do I unlock subie rumble in my FA
@VeteranShark 4 жыл бұрын
Glenn Williams sell your FA for a WRX
@laughingcures8563 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll always be more of a evo guy but I’ll always still love subies. They’re brothers to me not enemies
@samurboi8007 4 жыл бұрын
😭😭
@stefan_4508 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I’m a Subaru guy but I will admit that the Evo is the mechanically superior car in almost every way (apart from awd, I think subies have the better system). An ‘04 blobeye sti is my dream car but I also love evo 5s and 6s, especially the tme edition
@StonedLazy 4 жыл бұрын
Amen. I'd be proud to park both in my garage but I gotta move the Golfs out of the way
@Dbo3fly 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to get my hands on either of the two.
@slipperydoorknob2173 2 жыл бұрын
I remember going nuts as a 5 year old when I couldn't buy the STi Type R in GT1. My second favorite car in the game was the Lan Evo IV. The pre-'98 rally livery is the most iconic.
@PaganiGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Day 100 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad
@caninkendall8240 4 жыл бұрын
PaganiGaming wow
@Seventhsu 4 жыл бұрын
You're dedicated as hell my guy
@vuiupian 4 жыл бұрын
he could’ve done that on april fools day, opportunity missed.
@Radical2090 4 жыл бұрын
100TH DAYYY WHOOOO
@befer 4 жыл бұрын
@@vuiupian did they even do anything for the April Fool's?
@apflorante7915 4 жыл бұрын
If this ends up in tie and "its all about preferences", imma get mad.
@r1rhp 4 жыл бұрын
Bayek Florante LMAO I SWEAR TO GOD
@atomicdeathray2004 4 жыл бұрын
Lol well it didnt
@Swerzuh 4 жыл бұрын
@Supercharged Chicken STi's are unreliable garbage. Evos have always been more classy not to mention they're capable of so much more horsepower.
@seanb9698 3 жыл бұрын
As an STI owner I love when I see an Evo, and I don't hate but there is always this friendly rivalry type vibe
@YISP7 2 жыл бұрын
I worked for 10 years in a Mitsubishi dealership and had the pleasure of driving many EVOs, even on track with the company. I always liked them :)
@bikboi8768 4 жыл бұрын
I love how both STi and Evo fans admire each others cars.
@ADVERSARYsix 4 жыл бұрын
“Mitsubishi is planning on brining the Evo back as crossover” first thing you find when searching “lancer evo crossover” on google is multiple articles that state that sources within Mitsubishi have said that IF the Evo makes a return, it’s NOT going to be a crossover 😅
@joshuanickoloff2997 4 жыл бұрын
ADVERSARYsix #biasedreview
@trent7080 4 жыл бұрын
Its actually to be based on the CMF chassis and be developed with the next generation Renault Megane RS.
@arsyadaiman8474 4 жыл бұрын
A rumour from some website and an actual concept from the actual company, hmmmmmmmmmmmm
@ADVERSARYsix 4 жыл бұрын
@@arsyadaiman8474 The concept is for a car called e-Evolution not the Lancer Evolution, there is no correlation between the two car models.
@PERFECTxFALL 4 жыл бұрын
@@arsyadaiman8474 The new crossover concept is for the new Mitsubishi e-Evolution car, which is a completely separate new model that has nothing to do with the Lancer Evolution. Just because the the car model has “evo” or “evolution” in the name doesn’t mean that it’s related to the Lancer Evolution, this just happens to be a new Evolution line that happens to be designed by Mitsubishi.
@highwayman1218 2 жыл бұрын
Recently sold my 06 Hawkeye STI. LOVED the car. Always brought a smile to my face. Bought it new in 05. Drove it hard, auto-x and trackdays. Well over 100k hard miles and it never let me down. I spent alot on top shelf parts, knowledgeable tuning and well maintained with OEM parts. Didnt drive it like a clown missing shifts and 5k launches. Never any issues. Loved the EVO 9 and 10, great cars also, just always a Subaru owner.
@memememermemest4117 3 жыл бұрын
I love STI and have for years now but must say that I get more excited seeing an EVO due to the fact of how rare they are, I do not hate EVO what so ever, in fact if I could I would most certainly own one, respect both 🤙
@johnnykeller7648 4 жыл бұрын
I can't lie...I cried like a little girl when Mitsubishi unveiled the "Final Edition" because of EVERYTHING it represented...the end if an era, the end of a rivalry, the end for the "fun" era or Mitsubishi...it broke my friggin' heart and the Evo will forever be a legend...it kinda reminded me of Spike Spiegel in a way...it didn't wanna live for ever and did what it came to do...
@blowngasket299 3 жыл бұрын
it will come back
@chziaulhassan3264 3 жыл бұрын
Yep it will
@mengx94 3 жыл бұрын
As a crossover suv
@maxxbodyshow3203 3 жыл бұрын
@@mengx94 😂
@repent4christ541 3 жыл бұрын
Evo stopped being good when they pulled the 4g63t out of it and put in i believe the db11....4g63 for the win
@karlisozols5986 4 жыл бұрын
"I daily FRS and track a Yaris" MCM: approved in Australian
@ImJusDarius 2 жыл бұрын
As a wrx owner whose dream car is an evo 9 they are very equal in my books no one car is better then the other and that rivalry becoming a brotherhood has made it 10 times better seeing both of these cars on the road on the east coast
@johnnykeller5186 3 жыл бұрын
I work as a valet...and there's a biiiiiig difference between EVO and STI owners. People with EVO's tend to view valet as an imposition (self-park is extremely limited where I work) and will sneer if forced to valet. EVO owners also tend to take complements as being back-handed. STI owners usually don't have as foul an attitude as EVO owners, and are generally more willing to talk about their vehicles whereas EVO owners tend to take any questions you might have as if you're going to try to steal their car or like they have the secret to the universe and you're sniffing around for it.
@Kurtage77 4 жыл бұрын
I still love both cars. Does this mean there’s gonna be a Mustang VS Camaro episode? Haha
@Donut 4 жыл бұрын
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@yeet-dd2xm 4 жыл бұрын
@@Donut yes,do ferrari vs lamborghini
@ritarossweisse_ 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting bro... Very interesting... 😏
@ChipW 4 жыл бұрын
@Leonel Ramirez .........again
@TropaSoy_ 4 жыл бұрын
The camaro was built to beat the mustang the competiteion is wither it even is a competition😏😏😝
@tomy5885 4 жыл бұрын
This must’ve been the most diplomatic car comparison I’ve ever seen. Clearly you’ve tried your best to not anger one group of fanboys and you have achieved that. No one can argue with the fact that the evo being out of production diminishes its attainability. Well done!
@sky-uo1ls 2 жыл бұрын
The short initial d clip in the intro,why I love donut
@FallenArtemie 2 жыл бұрын
Both cars are sorta my entry into cars. I would always see them in rally and always thought rally racing was subaru and mitsubishi on the dirt roads. To this day, they still hold that image, but it's so sad so see the Lancer die off and the latest WRX become a large sedan with no STI or 5 door edition
@Higeki888 4 жыл бұрын
F the evo's and sti's i wanna kno about this mans Yaris
@alexandrealcantara8465 4 жыл бұрын
性交するTheOorange lmao fr fr
@SI0AX 4 жыл бұрын
TBH, it's the smart decision for track racing. You are likely to crash the car and Yaris parts can be attained from the junkyard for nearly nothing. It's also very reliable which is another thing you want in a track car. Toyota parts can also be had pretty cheap parts are common across multiple platforms from sedans, SUV's and even the luxury Lexus brand. Honda I would say is better, but getting parts in a junkyard for older cars is no where near as easy as for Toyota sadly.
@abelardions7600 4 жыл бұрын
3:19 I'd like to state a fact: In BBC's "Top Gear" show, Jeremy Clarkson proved that the Lancer Evo FQ360 could keep up with a Lamborghini Gallardo on track
@WillPaturzo 4 жыл бұрын
FQ400 and it was a Murcielago so even more impressive!
@danielevans4573 4 жыл бұрын
Will true
@jaynjuguna 4 жыл бұрын
so what?
@spaghetti5038 4 жыл бұрын
@THEMLGNOSCOPER0 no there was no bad turbo lag. They spool up pretty good from factory. I know what you're referring to and it was the dumbest argument ever. What he was doing was lugging the engine. Putting it in a high gear at the wrong speed with his foot to the floor. Any car turbo or not will do the same thing cause the rpm is way too low to do what he was asking of the car. I have no idea why they did such a stupid thing
@JohnySv 4 жыл бұрын
Lol this guy thinks that top gear reviews are accurate...
@viraangmalik8081 2 жыл бұрын
never knew donut media videos was gonna make me cry
@XsTwentyOne 3 жыл бұрын
bring that show backk !!
@J26G 4 жыл бұрын
Donut Media: EVO vs STI Scotty Kilmer in his Celica: REV UP YOUR ENGINES!!!
@ibnulbevan8020 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 He's been keeping his engine reving until his engine blows up😂
@Mike604 4 жыл бұрын
I read that in his horse voice
@Crashryding 4 жыл бұрын
Rod Miller’s old Pikes Peak Celica. F”ing MONSTER!! 1 of my favourite race cars of all time. Watched it in the Race to the Sky near Wanaka in New Zealand. Could hear it popping and squeaking all the way to the finish line from the bottom of the mountain. At the same time Monster Tajima has his Suzuki Vitara.... well the badge was from a Suzuki Vitara anyway
@InvidiousIgnoramus 4 жыл бұрын
Good God, do people still watch that old fool?
@kbrownfocus 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 You win forever 🤣🤣🤙🤙
@tareqjawdat6401 3 жыл бұрын
I likw how the japanese man bowed out of respect to the last car out of production line! those people are great! I respect their culture!
@deejeh9494 3 жыл бұрын
11:53
@mwambak1438 3 жыл бұрын
@@radattk3145 huh
@momanskiakabiffbuz6004 2 жыл бұрын
They have an unhealthy working culture, working 12+ hours a day
@porcelainkoi 2 жыл бұрын
@@momanskiakabiffbuz6004 yeah they have some great culture in some areas, and in others… not so much . Sad to see
@skirmishcustoms2595 2 жыл бұрын
There are negatives and positives to all cultures
@theyeetinggoose3803 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact at 0:00 the first clip of the subie, it is competing in the WRC championship, that particular course took place just a little while out from Perth, Western Australia
@lars_xdd7819 3 жыл бұрын
its 3am and i can say one thing its never to late four a donut vid
@Grooove_e 4 жыл бұрын
Me: A Bugeye owner Video: Calls it ugly Me: Blows a vape cloud
@nickdoe9307 4 жыл бұрын
Grooove e bug eye is king 🤴
@RMAJGaming 4 жыл бұрын
wow very riveting and emotional experience i was just broth through when reading this comment. the up's, the down's... bring a tear to my eye... 11/10 would IGN again ps: the bugeye is like my second fav sti... blobeye is my 1st >~>
@austingood5309 4 жыл бұрын
Bugeye went sadeye :(
@Emppu_T. 4 жыл бұрын
It's the surprised one
@agentstarkk 4 жыл бұрын
I love the bugeye!
@vipermoon_ 4 жыл бұрын
Performance shouldn't have been tied, it should have gone to EVO based entirely on what you said.
@spiders_8792 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a Subaru guy and also expected EVO to get more points for performance.
@vashusan1984 4 жыл бұрын
Owned and STi and couldn't agree more. The 4G63 alone I think puts it above.
@staypeachy7837 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah same i though the Evo should have won the performance
@cjay1824 3 жыл бұрын
@@spiders_8792 facts
@cjay1824 3 жыл бұрын
@A A in your dreams
@Nogdog945 Жыл бұрын
I love both. Legitimately. My first look at an evo was indeed 2fast 2furious but I later discovered the sti/wrx on my own looking into cars and researching and fell in love with it. I’m firmly in the middle on this love of either one.
@bladeiii5173 2 жыл бұрын
Mans getting better at this
@joelsamonie7728 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that the Evo is less accessible is why it makes it more special. I see STIs all day and don't look twice. When you see an Evo it's a little bit more exciting because they are rarer.
@faizzs3542 4 жыл бұрын
yupp! this call aura
@richarddeansalem2734 4 жыл бұрын
@@faizzs3542 you can literally make an evo yourself why is accessibility a category here lmao
@WinterKloudz 4 жыл бұрын
richard dean salem how can you make an evo yourself?
@FurryKeidran98 4 жыл бұрын
@@richarddeansalem2734 What?? I mean I suppose you could make ANY car yourself with enough time and money but no, you can't just make a car. "Also if u really want to do this, buy a manual lancer and then convert to a manual evo. It would be a lot easier. All in all it is a very expensive and complicated procedure, but it can be done. However, I do not recommend it as it could easily end up costing you more than to just buy an evo or ralliart." - from evolutionm forums. It would be easier to convert the Impreza into an STI
@michaellauder7462 4 жыл бұрын
when you see a 22b your head spins
@pkgreatshpkg8206 4 жыл бұрын
STI is widow, without having EVO by her side ! thats the most iconic duo anyone has seen in WRC
@russotusso1695 4 жыл бұрын
Eh 037 and Quattro are more iconic imo
@pkgreatshpkg8206 4 жыл бұрын
William Arrington I agree with you, I should edit the comment but I won’t as in my view EVO and STI were the standard to the purpose build cars , when they were in WRC and the same on models are on the roads everywhere. People have a lot of control to these cars to tune for rally by themselves . Audi / ford the cars on the read are not same the one from rallies.
@FranciscoRodriguez-fr3uc 3 жыл бұрын
They are both sooo good 😩
@TurbhoeHDRemix 2 жыл бұрын
This video is helped me a little bit in determining which of the two I was gonna get. And as a WRX driver now it was a good decision but sometimes I think of what if I'd gotten an Evo? Every time I see an Evo, I gotta smile because it really is a better car in some ways, but it just wasn't meant to be. If it weren't so damn expensive, maybe I would've gotten it.
@Raez_XL 4 жыл бұрын
"you cant have an Sti without a Mitsubishi"... Gives equal points. *LOGIC*
@dorlsgraville9707 4 жыл бұрын
One side biased. He favors STI
@amralmatni6586 4 жыл бұрын
Evo made NO changes in the last 10 years that's why he gave them equal score.
@davidschwartz3427 4 жыл бұрын
@@amralmatni6586 To be fair, he said it was beating the STI during that time. They're both cool af. I just like Evos more because boxers have oil issues.
@FRLCA-qc3fc 4 жыл бұрын
No it's called Communism :3
@Nyew18 4 жыл бұрын
@@amralmatni6586 the fact that subaru can't beat the evo even tho they made no changes says something, no hate brother I love both cars but I can tell that he's just being bias
@tomisz120 4 жыл бұрын
This “ Car Versus Car” will be it’s own segment right? Because it should.
@Donut 4 жыл бұрын
YES! What do you want to see us compare?
@fabianmennel4478 4 жыл бұрын
AMG vs. MPower vs. RS, would be nice
@ashman198 4 жыл бұрын
Supra vs R34?
@yaboi6801 4 жыл бұрын
@@Donut You should totally do Mustang vs. Camaro
@dizzy8950 4 жыл бұрын
@@Donut American performance vs Japanese
@che860 Жыл бұрын
these both used to be my dream car and both still do got a place in my dream garage
@jonathansteiner8053 2 жыл бұрын
Finally found a good video. Now I can eat and crack open a brew
@FermSingh 4 жыл бұрын
I thought round 5 was going to be about which company did more during the Attack on Pearl Harbor.
@ThatOnePizzaMan 4 жыл бұрын
why would you think that?
@e90baby 4 жыл бұрын
SimpleCircuits Bruh Subaru wasn’t even around and even if it was it’d still be no question Mitsubishi seeing as they produced the worlds most agile fighter aircraft at the time of the attack 😂
@TheKurtkapan34 4 жыл бұрын
@@e90baby it was around, as Nakajima. Mitsubishi built the Zeroes but Nakajima made the torpedo bombers. don't know which one wins lol
@schizofennec 4 жыл бұрын
Mitsubishi used to make war planes but it didn't mean mitsubishi killed people the pilots did
@gc2117 4 жыл бұрын
So who wins? ;)
@Tavian. 4 жыл бұрын
*no bias but he dailies an FRS with a SUBARU ENGINE*
@brother_maleik 4 жыл бұрын
With a SUBARU everything
@edgarmichaelperezruvalcaba7744 4 жыл бұрын
Backwerds and also tracks a Yaris. So what’s your point ?
@TZPK 2 жыл бұрын
Coming back to this it still hurts but I’m still an Evo fan! Lest we never forget!
@halogenisys4897 2 жыл бұрын
Oh they still do videos sick
@rokk144 4 жыл бұрын
Good video! You forgot one round: RELIABILITY
@PGH_RSV4 4 жыл бұрын
He's too biased so he didn't want that smoke lmao
@Aquarius003 4 жыл бұрын
@@PGH_RSV4 Yeah he was pretty bias. He tried not to be but it was still there.
@silverarrow2013 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know about you guys but Evos here in Asia are pretty reliable.
@Aquarius003 4 жыл бұрын
@@silverarrow2013 Yeah we're not saying they're not.
@yohan1902 4 жыл бұрын
River Bons Evos in my area likes being on jack stands. 🤮
@tormenmashi_ 4 жыл бұрын
Let the fanboy wars begin but seriously though 2 word: personal prefrence Edit: y'all really started debating under my comment
@despair5195 4 жыл бұрын
tormenmashi_ evo is better
@drakevillarreal3602 4 жыл бұрын
@@despair5195 damn right it is
@antonc108 4 жыл бұрын
The western world does not know how the Evo is just way more ingrained and valued than STI in Asian lands, in many movies ie the snippets of Jackie Chan's Thunderbolt shown, and several others, the Evo is always the hero car.
@crimescene25 4 жыл бұрын
@@despair5195 i own a 2017 wrx sti and both are great cars. What do you drive?
@floof4444 4 жыл бұрын
@@crimescene25 honestly I think the evo is better in terms of styling. However both are good cars
@dylanguidry7111 2 жыл бұрын
Both of these cars are some of my dream cars! But the Subaru always sounded like a tuner ate a muscle car I swear but would love to either one for years..❤
@mre912 Жыл бұрын
I waited till the end to give this video a thumbs up 👍 lol. I'm a Subie guy. I absolutely love crushing Evo's in my 2002 Bugeye. Much respect to Evo owners. It's a brotherhood we share together, but the rivalry is fun too. I waive to them the same I do when I pass or see another Subie. Great video.
@hazwanhaizan1465 4 жыл бұрын
Conclusion: STI and Evo are great. Just pick up which one you like.
@AK-mh4zb 4 жыл бұрын
No, the STI is way better
@lilchad-ig1oj 4 жыл бұрын
Hazwan Haizan one is still made and updated One isn’t made anymore and won’t be updated
@unidentifiedcarguy9121 4 жыл бұрын
@@AK-mh4zb keep dreaming lol
@interceptingfist5682 4 жыл бұрын
@@AK-mh4zb LMAO no it's not. The EVO makes power waaaay easier. No contest.
@davewsh8434 4 жыл бұрын
Not an video like this
@mchawk315 4 жыл бұрын
Host: "I daily an FRS and track a Yaris" Me slightly zoned out: wait what? Okay let's see where this goes.
@weedhigh2564 4 жыл бұрын
Dude i tell you, my mom just sold me hers she got in 2k9 from the daughter of a local Toyota dealer that wanted more HP now, its a custom from factory 1.4 with added on 15" OZ MSW and that car is bonkers. It does need a bit of the good ol MO POWA BABAY! treatment now but still handles so well, im about to splash on the tires first but next im going to herd me the 50 buff ponies to add in the barn... The mk2 Yaris is a fine damn car dunno why so much hate on it
@sepg5084 4 жыл бұрын
i guess it is cheaper to track a Yaris than to track an FRS. Real grassroots racers know that
@raymond9009 4 жыл бұрын
Good for low end rally on the cheap. Not sure about the track though.
@zachjw2768 3 жыл бұрын
FRS is slow asf stock
@isaiasmacias1452 3 ай бұрын
Great vid!
@daniilsubbotin 2 жыл бұрын
Scrolled thru dozens of comments here and gave a thumb up to everyone regardless. Cheers from 2022, I'm driving an STi 08 hatch but would love to also own an Evo... Love u guys, 👋
@ginyamaa 4 жыл бұрын
I love the energy of that guy in the evo dyno clip, pure joy on his face lmao
@alrickanglin953 4 жыл бұрын
Most STI guys have that same energy when they survive a dyno pull regardless of the power numbers 🤣😂🤣
@tyronemailles9972 4 жыл бұрын
He’s more of a highlight in this video than the presenter of the video 😂
@markjw937 3 жыл бұрын
I owned a white Evo 5 for 2 years running 380 bhp and I adored it. I now own a 2013 Subaru WRX STI Saloon and it's my pride and joy. I don't think I will ever need another fun car because it's everything I want. Fast, loud, cool looking, interesting and you actually have to put some effort in to get good performance. These cars are a gift to the human species and I can't recommend them enough
@joecuenca838 2 жыл бұрын
im an evo owner, and i love how sti owners compliment my car on every aspects, while i secretly envy the interior of the new sti🤙🏻
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