Grazie Pablo! Speriamo, purtroppo ogni racchetta nuova necessita molte ore di allenamento e non è detto che sia meglio della precedente. Però è bello avere stimoli nuovi ogni tanto. ;) Un caro saluto e ne approfitto per farti in ritardo gli auguri di buon anno.

Yes, he is an amazing training partner! :)

Hi Joachim, happy to hear from you again! As you noticed spinreversal is not the best (my carbonado setup has way better reversal) but the control and the ability to make blocks close to the net is interesting!! I will soon try an harder sponge 😉 Fast no spin balls are difficult to control with a blade with a such low throw. At the beginning i did a lot of mistakes. Then I started to have a bit of regularity holding the racket perpendicular to the table with 0 wrist motion and elbow down. (Like the block at 3:58, is a different block movement i'm experimenting). Need more training hours! 😁 bye

I chose vortex because I wanted to try a different antispin on the new blade...but my official setup remains the one with ABS. The choice between anti and OX LP depends on the style you would like to have...anti it's more a passive rubber. With LP you have better attacking possibilities (in my opinion)

@@AndreaAschi Thanks, looking at your videos, I think we have almost the same style of game. I return with the backhand, block or defend depending on the speed of the opponent and I attack with the backhand on pushed balls as with the LP you can't do a lot of other things against this. But Lp are not annoying as before and are less regular too.

Hi! Thank you 😊 Anti has a red sponge 1.7mm thick. Forehand rubber is a Tenergy 05 2.1mm 😉

Grazie!! Vi auguro il meglio per la nobile causa di promozione del nostro bellissimo sport in Italia, non mollate!

@@AndreaAschi grazie mille! ps sono luciodrum87 😉

Karet Anti merek Apa yah

Ciao Victor! Lo Stiga è un telaio veloce ed ha una parabola molto bassa quindi è ottimo per tirare forte con il diritto. Queste caratteristiche sono utili anche per il gioco di antispin anche se il controllo non è dei migliori. Non è adatto per principianti giocatori di anti. E' interessante il feeling che il telaio da vista la superficie maggiore in punta. Su questo telaio sto provando la nuova Spinlab Vortex 2 (la ABS la uso sulla mia racchetta principale) insieme a una Tenergy 05.

Hi Benny! I tried the stiga cybershape with a TSP curl p-h (1.5mm) doing defense away from the table. Initially I had a little difficulty, then by adjusting the movement I was able to chop with decent regularity and a lot of backspin. The frame itself is pretty stiff so it's not ideal for that kind of playstyle but if you have a good sensibility you can definitely try it for a modern defense style. 😉

Hi Nick!! The speed depends on the sponge. The red one is very slow!! (even if is thin) Super useful for short blocks as in the video. I will try vortex 2 topsheet with a faster/harder sponge because i'm looking for better spinreversal.

The rubber does the work for you, no fun at all!

Ok

Thanks for the tip sir. Stay safe.

@@gyukang2 you welcome 🙏

Ciao Paolo! La Vortex 2 l'ho presa da Saturno (TTSaturn.com). Forse non l'ha ancora messa sul sito ma se lo contatti di persona te la manda. É disponibile e già approvata dalla ITTF. Spugna ho preso quella rossa da 1.7mm. Per qualsiasi dubbio chiedimi 😉 Buon anno anche a te!!

@@AndreaAschi in cosa differisce quella con spugna 2.3 (oltre ad essere più lenta della 1,7, credo)? E come la vedi su un telaio molto veloce?

It is possible to perform a movement similar to a topspin. With anti, however, not having a surface with friction, you cannot generate spin.

I hope the video did not disappoint your expectations! 😉 The red sponge in this case is good because cybershape is fast and with a low throw, so you need a very dampening sponge to be able to do slow blocks close to the net. The downside is spinreversal...weaker than my original setup (ABS/pink sponge). I think anti on this blade is definetly playable, but for beginners there are safer and cheaper blades to use with anti. I was interested in trying cybershape also for the forehand side. (Anti is not the only reason why i win matches😉) I need more training for fully undestand if this combo is better than my Carbonado one. 👍

Hi my friend! I will do for sure an antispin tutorial in the near future. ;)

@@AndreaAschi Are you still going to make it?

Absolutely! I would like to make a well-done tutorial and that would take me a long time to record and edit. I just have to find the right time to do it.

@@AndreaAschi Thank you, I will be patiently waiting, until then I will just continue watching your videos and trying to copy what you are doing since there is truly no proper anti-spin rubber tutorial out there. Much love from Bosnia!

I thank you for the support my friend! 🥰 If there is anything in particular that you would like me to cover in the tutorial let me know. I try to gather as many ideas as possible.

Hi! The brand is Spinlab (Italia). Is a Vortex 2 with 1.7mm red sponge 😉

Ahah hai ragione! Incrocio spesso Spera lungo la strada. Pura casualità. 😉 Sei il Bosio di Verzuolo? Ho avuto il piacere di incrociarti un paio di volte ai tornei.

Hi Nick! Contact Daniele at info@spinlabitalia.com Vortex 2 in not on the website but it is available! ask him 😉

@@AndreaAschi thanks!

It depends...the blade is good but with BTY Super Anti you can't replicate what you saw in my video. You need an anti with frictionless surface. BTY Super Anti is grippy. 😉

Thnx alot ❤️

Buonasera Mario! Purtroppo antispin con un minimo di grip come la Super Anti non le ho mai provate a lungo quindi non ne conosco la tecnica. Io tra l'altro uso l'anti senza attrito molto passivamente, se mi arriva una palla liscia o legg. superiore faccio sempre un movimento di polso (in stile muretto con puntino lungo) per buttarla semplicemente di la. Non la aggredisco mai perchè non sono in grado di controllarla con continuità.

Hi my friend, thanks for your support! :) I love the Stiga Cybershape, it's a fantastic offensive blade. The only thing holding me back from using it is that it is not the best blade for anti. 😉

@@AndreaAschi Thank you very much for answering. Why is it not adequate, for the weight or for its shape? Do you think Stiga will take out a suitable Cybershape model for anti? Thank you.

Hi! I use a Tibhar antistatic spray that is VOC free. Any spray is fine, as long as they have these 2 characteristics. ;)

@@AndreaAschi what do you think about revolution 3 cleaner?

@@borisgraell i'm sorry. I have never tried it!

@@borisgraell it's a very good cleaner too. I use it for tensors an Chinese rubbers and it makes them play and look like new.

Thank you Marton for your kind words!! :) I'm playing in the fifth Italian division this year. Antispin at top level is very rare because professional players knows how to play against it.

Ciao Ciro! É il grande Jorge Schmitz (società TT Moncalieri) 😉

Thank you Rafael!! :) Indonesian community is the best 😎

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Hi Tommy! :) in this video i played with: - Stiga Cybershape - Tenergy 05 - Spinlab Vortex 2 (red sponge 1.7mm)

@@AndreaAschi danke, ich werde diesen Belag auch bald testen:)

@@AndreaAschi aber in 1,7 mm ich kann nicht finden. Woher kaufst du?

@@tommyfischer4204 Contact Daniele at --> info@ttsaturn.com Vortex 2 and red 1.7mm sponge are not on his website but they are available. Ask him! ;)

Which LP do you use? OX or not?

@@ivoc.1817 I use long pips OX, Neubauer Number 1 (that's old and a little less friction) also Akadi that is also old.

Spinlab Vortex2! 😉

You can find sponge and topsheet at spinlabitalia. com 😉

Have you tried to combine the dampening sponge with the long pips rubber?

No i don't! But i have both dampening sponges and long pimples in my house...i can try! ;)

Thanks andrea, looking forward to see the sponge on the LP😀

Ciao Mario. L'ho preso sul sito della Stiga. Per ora lo puoi comprare solo tramite loro.

- Butterfly Tenergy 05 - Spinlab Vortex 2 (red sponge 1.7mm)

Spinlab 😉

Spinlab Vortex 2 (red sponge 1.7mm)

Hard topsheet/soft sponge! 😉

@@AndreaAschi What colour Sponges? and what's the difference of 1.7mm & 2.3mm if I choose?

I tried vortex 1 once with a hard sponge so i'm not able to make you a good comparison. Vortex 2 topsheet is lighter and a little bit softer. it seemed to me that it has less spinreversal but better control, but maybe changing sponge changes everything. I need more time to understand fully this rubber! 😉

Antispin is a category of rubbers that have little to no friction on the surface. They are insensitive to incoming spin.

My friend...CyberAnti is the future!! 😁😜

@@AndreaAschi 🤣

@@AndreaAschi you turn this game into shit very well. Good luck in making antitennis with antitennis rubber. I tried long pips once and had no problem with beating my usualy tough oponents, but this playing style doesn't satisfy me even if I win.

@@aldaron555 many backward and primitive pseudo-athletes would like to impose their will and style on everyone. In schools, they teach us that the wise gives way to the stupid - and that's why fools rule. Let us not allow the same in sports. Development is about broadening your horizons, not closing yourself in a cage for idiots. It is not worth listening to fools, it is not worth imitating them, and under no circumstances should they be allowed to introduce unjustified restrictions. And there is no point in explaining to fools that they are fools - they will never understand that.

@@DycioOL nie jestem pewien co miałeś na myśli. Nie chciałem nikogo obrazić, po prostu wyraziłem swoją opinię jako człowieka ograniczonego, grającego gumami gładkimi, odnośnie wynalazków jakim jest powyższa guma. Nie mam problemu że ludzie takimi grają, to czyni ten sport bardziej różnorodnym. Zawodnicy po zmianie płci w sportach kobiecych, szczególnie w sportach walki też czynią rywalizację bardziej różnorodną, oczywiście też nie łamiąc przepisów. Jak komuś to odpowiada i przynosi mu to radość oraz satysfakcję, to proszę bardzo. Ja jednak wolę szukać radości z gry i satysfakcji poprawiając moje umiejętności, niż uciekać się do sprzętu, który niszczy wszystko co w tym sporcie najfajniejsze, czyli szybkość, rotacja i dynamika. Co innego jak ktoś jest młody i sprawny, a co innego jak wiek i słabe warunki fizyczne usprawiedliwiają taki wybór.

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Ciao Marco! Il tuo nome mi ricorda un ragazzo con cui ho condiviso uno stage nel 2010 a Castel Goffredo. Sei tu? ;) L'antispin é una Spinlab Vortex2, la vende Saturno (negozio TTSaturn).

Spinlab Vortex2 with red 1.7mm sponge. 😉

Hi Alex. Yes because i'm backspin antispin pervert. I love to see people go to the net. 🙈

They are good at selling blades! It's their only concern. 😉

@@AndreaAschi yup that is why most including me stopped using stiga and used Butterfy or Double Happiness as its headsize is normal or semi larger.

Because no one use cybershape in this way. The title is ironic. it is an attempt to convert people to antispin world. 😉

@@AndreaAschi Cybershape is just a Blade nothing special. Like Carbonado or whatever. By the title I thought you compare different angles of the blocks and how to hold the racket to get most effective blocks. Like head down or held upwards. Or a comparison why especially this shape is good or bad for anti.

For sure! I'm not a vice world champion 😆

@@AndreaAschi sorry i was not angry😅

Me neither! 😜

😂😂 antispin need a lot of training but are super funny! 😁

I assume from your comment that you have not seen any of my other videos. My backhand and forehand are at the same level. Shame on you 😂😜