Thanks for watching man! Good little saw for sure, but may want a good medium sized saw around for a little bit bigger trees, but honestly works just fine for most work. Cheers from Arizona!

Cool, thanks for watching!

I think it’s a great saw. Some people took my notations of it being one of the smaller saws Stihl has to offer and that a little bigger saw wouldn’t be a bad idea as a bad criticism of the saw. I don’t feel that is a criticism as much as a fact, but I bet as long as you keep a sharp chain on it, it’ll do 10” hard woods fine.

Definitely agree.

I appreciate it. Thanks for watching.

Thanks for subscribing, unfortunately I don’t do a lot of chainsaw videos, I’m going to try to squeeze them in occasionally but its going to be rare as I hardly get them out cutting as it is anymore.

I do like the light weight aspect of it.

Couldn't agree more, thanks for watching, don't forget to subscribe!

It’s hard to gauge who my audience will be. For serious wood cutters, loggers, firefighters, etc. this saw might not be enough for them. For other serious wood cutters, home handymen, landscapers, etc. It’s a great saw. I personally think it’s plenty of saw for the average guy. But I tried to be somewhat central in my review.

@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects Yes, very good review overall .

You can’t really go wrong with any of the MS Stihl saws. The 180 is just a really good saw for the price point.

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Nice. I have smaller saws still. The MS180 obviously and the Husqvarna 440. Both great saws. Really enjoy both of them. You definitely don’t need a great big saw to get a lot of work done and sometimes the smaller lighter saw beats having a big saw because your back stays fresh longer.

I don’t think you can go wrong with either brand of saw. I have both a Stihl and a Husqvarna and they both start quick and easy . They both run reliably. I have the Stihl MS180 as you know from this video and the Husqvarna 440 which is a little bigger saw than the MS180. I suppose it depends on your budget and exactly what you think you’ll want or need but any small Stihl or Husqvarna saw you decide to pick up for trimming trees and cutting a little wood is probably a good saw. Sorry I could be more direct.

I did have an issue with the sides of the track pinching in on the chain, like I said. You have done more research than me, I wasn't aware it had a thinner bar. But I think under most circumstances its acceptable. Especially for trimming trees, if that is your plan. As far as the difference between the MS170 and the MS180, the 180 has 1.7 more CC's than the 170, making it slightly more powerful. One of the numbers I saw was that it is "18% more powerful". Other than that they are similar. Maybe a few minor details I don't know. As for the difference between the 171 and 181, compared to the 170 and 180 is they are more "pro" type saws. They have transparent tanks so you can see the oil and fuel level. They also have a anti vibration feature that the 180 and 170 don't have. I have cut a lot of wood with my 180 and don't find vibration to be an issue especially compared to the cheap junk saws like the Ryobi and Craftsman type saws. Thanks for watching, don't forget to subscribe and come back tell me what you end up buying. Thanks!

Right now, I’d opt for the 170.

Definitely want to get myself a 271 someday.

@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects Thank you for the reply! We have an ms311 that refuses to die. I took the sprocket off after an incident, the dealer said they had never seen one that mangled! The needles welded to the inside of the sprocket. The saw still runs!

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Anthony Coleman I’m not sure how much an Australian dollar is worth compared to an American dollar but that definitely seem a little steep. Good luck finding one, it’s a good saw.

@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects 370 NZD for the 16inch bar here in NZ.....that is about 235 USD currently

Derek's Workshop and Projects around 200 USD or just over here in Aus. I picked one up today. FYI Stihl offer an extended warranty for buying Stihl premix fuel / 2 strike oil for 11 bucks.

Nice buy! I didn’t know about the extended warranty. Thanks for letting me know about that.

It costs 249€ (Discounted from 299€) here in Estonia, Europe. I was very surprised you bought it for 179, which is like 150€.

I think it can do firewood, especially depending on your geographic area, but it’s not a great option, just... an option.

Absolutely agree!

Tony George where or how for under $200 I see only a ms180c-be $259

well I got mine used for $150

I mean, I filmed this like 5 years ago, so I don’t know, but I don’t run them that loose and I never have.

I had to go back and watch but your right. I add chain tension when I notice it’s loose, and it was clearly full by the looks of the saw dust as well. It’s a great saw. I think anyone cutting firewood with it will be happy, but maybe a little underwhelmed. I was trying to make the point that if you want a serious firewood cutting chainsaw that was still affordable, I’d go with the Farm Boss. Both are great saws, the Farm Boss just has a little extra juice to power through the great big logs, especially of more dense wood. The MS180 will cut firewood all day, it just is going to take you all day, where a bigger saw with a good sharp chain we probably get you done at least a little more soon.

It's the same in this video as well.

Both brands are seriously good. I have the Husqy 440 and I love that saw. But my Stihl is also great. If it were me I would get the 455 BUT that would be relevant to the saws I have and my uses for them. It depends on what you already have and plan to do with it of course!

Yeah if I remember right I paid $199. I don’t know $ to Euro but I would expect it to be something like 230 euro or close to it based on other things I have seen. Good saw either way. Hope you enjoy it.

Wow, I just got one for £180 in England

You're requesting a video on the starting procedure?

I don’t believe it is made in the USA. Usually, a company makes it very obvious when they manufacture a product in the US. I can’t find anywhere that says that though. I do know they have a factory in South Carolina, what I have been told is their consumer level saws are one of those “MADE IN THE USA, with global materials” kind of deals. I cannot imagine Echo is selling 100% US made chainsaws, probably the same deal as the Stihl consumer saws where they are made here with global materials. But I really like Echo, I do not think you would be disappointed with one of their saws! My dad has one and I cannot remember the model but it has an 18” bar. Very very nice saw. Thanks for watching

That saw is made in Virginia Beach virginia

Nice! Last I looked they were $240, they’re $260 now? Wow!

Probably a pretty tree trimming machine!

That is where it shines I think. Clean up work. I used it the other day to trim a bunch of trees on my property. Worked nicely for that. I think this saw is just a really good option because it has the Stihl reliability for the same price as a lot of those junk saws in its price range (and that comes from experience, I have used "junk saws" plenty).

It's a good saw either way. Thanks for watching.

I may have been. I’m confident that it was user error but I don’t know for sure. I did get a second chain and a sharpening guide for my Dremel tool though. Haven’t had an issue since!

@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects one of the first things I was taught about using a chainsaw is that a blunt chain = a warped bar

Sorry that was supposed to say Dremel, not deemed. It was about a year ago since it happened so I’m not completely sure on how sharp it was.

Right out of the box? I feel like mines usually pretty wet.

Its a great saw no doubt. Its been a few days since I made this video so I don't remember what I may have said that you would be responding to like that, but my thoughts on this saw are that for the size it is very capable. I really like it and its a great choice to get someone into a good Stihl chainsaw for not a lot of money. I plan to update this review at the end of this firewood season so subscribe so you can catch that video when it comes out. I am unaware up any bar upgrades or how this will even affect this saws cutting ability. I could see a better chain helping out but I don't necessarily feel the need to get one myself. Thanks for watching.

@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects no i was referring to you saying you had problems going through hard wood ,im saying if youll upgrade bar and chain you will see the difference go to the fifty gauge chain and bar ,stay with the sixteen inch though

Good to know, I mostly use this for tree trimming around a property I manage, cutting wood for my grandparents and members of my church who can't do it themselves. When I get serious about cutting my own wood, I will certainly consider upgrading. Have you tried an 18" bar on the MS180? I considered bumping to 18 when once this first bar wears out. I was going to research it first though, just wondering if you had anything experience with it.

@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects no dont do it your going to cut your power down and you can ruin your clutch theres a man on you tube who went to a 24inch on his 180 but i think he had his ported ,thats something you may want to consider ,i cant do that with my 180cbe because its still under warrenty ,thats up to you ,i just cut up a indian jack tree its thick and dence i went through it with no problem it was about 14 inches in diameter im telling ya your going to like that upgrade

@@jodyhardy8631 I wasn't seriously considering tossing an 18" bar on there, I just thought about it but wasn't sure what the consequences would be. Ill consider it. Thanks for the suggestions!

You’re not the first to say that and won’t be the last, this was one of the first videos I made, being in front of the camera was awkward, had to get used to it. Sorry for the wasted time.

I apologize if I came off as rude. It wasn't my intent.

I wasn’t offended. I hate umms and uhhs in videos too. It feels like a waste of time. But I have had mostly positive feedback on the video so I just leave it up. Thanks for watching though.