Still Using a Bright Boy? Better Watch This Video! (363)

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Model Railroading

Model Railroading

Ай бұрын

Bright Boys are a traditional favorite among model railroaders for cleaning dirty track. However they come with a downside in that they can scratch the surface of your rails, but that can depend on the type of abrasive used in the Bright Boy itself. In this video I'll show you a track cleaning bar that has aluminum oxide abrasive which will polish your rails instead of scratching them.

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@YourLocalRailfan
@YourLocalRailfan Ай бұрын
Never seen someone with so much southern railroad equipment
@Steampete12
@Steampete12 Ай бұрын
I have used a stainless steel washer to burnish the rails, then a wipe over with Inox.
@Cee_Eff
@Cee_Eff Ай бұрын
I have been using ink erasers, and they seem to be working nicely
@shanestrains4724
@shanestrains4724 Ай бұрын
I just use small blocks of wood from a 1/2 furring strip, probably pine, i think. I have several of them and just rub them along the rail head to polish the rail. When the blocks are dirty, I just sand them clean and use them again. I also vacuum every once in a while, too. I threw out all my bright boy abrasives years ago and don't use any oils or cleaners. This keeps my track dry and prevent it from acting like a dust magnet. I've been doing it this way for years and don't experience any of the dead spots or stalling I used to have when I would use any of the other "fads" that seem to make the rounds every now and then.
@paulkalff6408
@paulkalff6408 Ай бұрын
Cost = $15+ Freight = $31+...... I'll use IPA! Thanks for the fine video! Keep 'em coming!
@DarkpawTheWolf
@DarkpawTheWolf Ай бұрын
I just use 1000 grit sandpaper, and wipe with a micro-fiber towel. I have a microscope similar to what you are using, and it doesn't seem to damage the rails. Since I don't allow plastic wheels on my track at any time, it's rare that I have to clean the indoor layout at all. The outdoor layout is a bit different, but that's exposed to the elements.
@elleryparsons2433
@elleryparsons2433 Ай бұрын
I As Well Do too I’m Sure Back In The Day like In The 70’s they Did That And I’m Sure My Grandpa did The Same I Don’t think I’m gonna Change Any time Soon.
@randallzook5570
@randallzook5570 Ай бұрын
I've never used abrasives to clean my nickel track, only paper towel and 99% alcohol. I have to do it fairly often but seems to do a very good job of keeping my DCC locomotives running smoothly.
@jimmd68
@jimmd68 Ай бұрын
I haven't used any sort of abrasive in decades. I still have my Bright Boy from the '70s. I'm a chemical wipe guy.
@sailingspokojny9809
@sailingspokojny9809 Ай бұрын
Good to see you back Larry. I hope you are doing well.
@openeyes-411
@openeyes-411 Ай бұрын
Thanks Larry, that does seem to be a better option than the traditional brite boy - as you mentioned, the round nature of the abrasive material used is more likely to burnish than scratch the rail... For damage already done, a steel washer of appropriate size to span the rails screwed to a block of wood will burnish the surface and "heal" the scratches imposed by using other aggressive methods of "cleaning"... (Sharp side away from the rails!) Follow that with a wipe of IPA on a towel - and then just maintain with track cleaning cars, or the occasional re-wipe. (Or the good 'ole fashioned rombus shaped pink eraser - like is used to clean dirt & oxidation off copper contacts.😉) My 2 cents, fwiw - Charlie
@joelupinacci011073
@joelupinacci011073 Ай бұрын
Well....im watching this 14 hours late, and there are no more of these blocks for sale on the planet...lol. I'll add it to my wishlist. Thanks for the great video.
@BjBang
@BjBang Ай бұрын
Charlie Bishop just posted that Richard Brighton from DCC Concepts had advised him that the intended use would be a light circular, rather than a linear 'scrubbing', motion.
@gmpullman
@gmpullman Ай бұрын
I bought a product called 'Sandflex' about four years ago and have been using it (fine grit) as a track cleaner ever since. Made in Germany. May be the same product. Usually sold in a three-pack with a medium and coarse grit included. I only use the fine for rail cleaning.
@johnhermanson5249
@johnhermanson5249 Ай бұрын
Thank you for the video, I am on the Iron Planet wait list for this product.
@markfrench8892
@markfrench8892 Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that info.
@elsdp-4560
@elsdp-4560 Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing.👍
@sabo6588
@sabo6588 Ай бұрын
Great video! Thank you for the info.
@gregorykeliher542
@gregorykeliher542 Ай бұрын
Great useful info Larry 😊
@deathwishdrang1780
@deathwishdrang1780 Ай бұрын
i bought 2 bright boys back in the 1970's, one is still mint and the other has reduced 60% but still exists and is used...few products last 50+ years and Bright Boy is/was the best ever track eraser
@ken0272
@ken0272 Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@ColtonRMagby
@ColtonRMagby Ай бұрын
Good to know for beginners, experts, and everyone in between.
@kevinbooth2063
@kevinbooth2063 Ай бұрын
Thanks Larry
@billdryden6275
@billdryden6275 Ай бұрын
Like you, Larry, I use a "bright boy" as a last measure. Recently, I purchased from Walthers their Cratex Abrasive Block Extra Fine (PN 49-522). Since I am having to do the initial post-ballasting cleaning, removing the glue, etc., from the rails, the more aggressive bright boy is almost mandatory. However, I follow that with the Cratex block and can actually feel the latter slide across the rails as it tends to polish the surface ..... it surely has made a difference in rail smoothness. I'm satisfied with the Cratex block for the final cleaning before running my track cleaning cars. Seems to be working really well and I'm not getting any significant buildup on the rails themselves. In the long run, I believe that I will not be needing any track cleaning except the cars themselves. As Marklin-of-Sweden says in his video, he has found that running trains often (with metal wheelsets, of course) keeps the track clean by itself. FWIW and IMO, of course. 😎
@bobhordern5139
@bobhordern5139 Ай бұрын
Thanks again Larry 👍. I use a Garyflex (fine grade) block but will have a look at the DCC product.
@DavidMoyer-zl2xv
@DavidMoyer-zl2xv Ай бұрын
Thank You. David
@johndickerson8423
@johndickerson8423 Ай бұрын
I use mr clean blocks, use them wet with your favorite cleaning liquid, or dry, i also cut them down like you Larry
@randydobson1863
@randydobson1863 Ай бұрын
Hi Larry & it's is Randy and i like yours video is coo & Thanks Larry & Friends Randy
@thebritishrailroader
@thebritishrailroader Ай бұрын
Thanks for the info Larry. Definitely going to trade up 👍
@rl7881
@rl7881 Ай бұрын
I believe that DCC Concepts recommends a circular motion when cleaning track, probably why the block is larger than other types. Not sure what difference the difference cleaning motions would have, but it would be interesting to hear your take on a trial between the two. Thank you.
@morganfbilbo4659
@morganfbilbo4659 19 күн бұрын
It might have been nice if you'd show the rail after being cleaned with Mineral Spirits alone, no abrasives. To compare. I never use any abrasive, ONLY MS. Followed of course, by graphite.
@andrewstephenson3594
@andrewstephenson3594 Ай бұрын
Larry, thanks for this really clear helpful video
@Mike__B
@Mike__B Ай бұрын
Yup, wait list for this product.
@johngiaconia1385
@johngiaconia1385 Ай бұрын
Perfect makes a yellow track cleaner. I have been using them since the 1970's. They are more like an eraser and don't eat the track.
@rjl110919581
@rjl110919581 Ай бұрын
GLUE WOOD BACK BRIGHT BOYS
@williamstewart4620
@williamstewart4620 Ай бұрын
Way off topic but you mentioned in Episode 246, Easy Signals that to make sure that you are able to locate a message on an old episode to make a comment on a newer episode. Thanks for the great explanation in Episode 246 on how to wire signals. The circuitry is pretty basic: two hot leads (one to each rail), one neutral (black lead to frog) and a two pole switch (the turnout). I'm using Kato #6 turnouts and I can't seem to find how to connect the black lead to the frog. Appreciate any help.
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy Ай бұрын
Sorry but I have never seen one and generally avoid these types of track for this very reason. I use flex track along with my turnouts as it gives you more flexibility and is a known commodity as far as wiring goes.
@williamstewart4620
@williamstewart4620 Ай бұрын
@@TheDCCGuy Thanks, appreciate the rapid response.
@williamshanaman5098
@williamshanaman5098 Ай бұрын
Yeah, this is not available in the US. Those that advertise on EBay charge 38 bucks for shipping.
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy Ай бұрын
You must have skipped the parts where I said these are sold in the US by Iron Planet Hobbies and possibly others who carry DCCconcepts products. And as I predicted they sold out immediately after my video was released.
@derekalexander4030
@derekalexander4030 Ай бұрын
Thanks Larry, very good information. The other thing I constantly hear about is burnishing the rail and I wonder if that would repair rail that already has scratches or if it would polish new rail that has never been cleaned and make it so it wouldn’t get dirty?
@openeyes-411
@openeyes-411 Ай бұрын
Yes Derek, a steel washer of appropriate size to span the rails screwed to a block of wood will burnish the surface and "heal" the scratches imposed by using other aggressive methods of "cleaning"... (Sharp side away from the rails!) Follow that with a wipe of IPA on a towel - and then just maintain with track cleaning cars, or the occasional re-wipe. (Or the good 'ole fashioned rombus shaped pink eraser - like is used to clean dirt & oxidation off copper contacts.😉) - Charlie
@grumpy1814
@grumpy1814 Ай бұрын
This looks like the Roco 10002 track cleaning rubber.
@DavidMoyer-zl2xv
@DavidMoyer-zl2xv Ай бұрын
Larry, This question is about walkways. Do you know where to get Morton pattern in brass or stainless steel?? looking to fix an Intermontain 4750 hopper. Plano is sold out for Intermountain hopper cars. Thanks for all the information you share for the model railroader.
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy Ай бұрын
I would have said Plano so I guess you’ll be waiting for them to get caught up.
@ngaugefouroaksstreetstatio6932
@ngaugefouroaksstreetstatio6932 Ай бұрын
Surprise surprise Larry
@bigwoz78
@bigwoz78 Ай бұрын
I use pink erasers
@earlfreeman93
@earlfreeman93 Ай бұрын
Is not Aluminum Oxide know as solid Rocket fuel? Wasn't it one of the reasons that the fire on the Hindenburg started in first place since the canvas panels were coated with it and attached with a non-conductive cord to the framework.
@RWSBaden
@RWSBaden Ай бұрын
Hi Larry, very interesting update on track cleaners. You mention Cratex blocks, which are currently my go to track cleaning block, but you did not mention where the silicon carbide falls on the list of abrasives? I was told the Cratex blocks are less abrasive than a Bright Boy. Is this true, or was a fed a line to sale a product? Thank you Larry for this video. Also are there any updates on your previous video where you applied a track cleaning product your your track? Cheers, Rich S.
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy Ай бұрын
On the Cratex website they say they can produce abrasive blocks with either aluminum oxide or silicon carbide-I think their Bright Boy may use aluminum oxide but companies can specify which they want. From what I could find in my research silicon carbide is much harder and sharper than aluminum oxide so I wouldn’t use it.
@RWSBaden
@RWSBaden Ай бұрын
Hi Larry @@TheDCCGuy A FYI update for your viewers. I received a reply from Walthers in which they stated they use both Silicon Carbide and Aluminum Oxide in their Cratex Track Cleaning Block. Sadly I was hoping since they use the Silicon Carbide in their Bright Boys, they might have chosen to only use the Aluminum Oxide in their Cratex Cleaning blocks. The replay I received did not state what the combination of the two was, only that the Walthers Cratex blocks use both Silicon Carbide and Aluminum Oxide. Cheers, Rich S.
@jeffbranch8072
@jeffbranch8072 Ай бұрын
My club had used Bright Boys for quite a few years and then began to have reliability issues due primarily to corrosion from scratching of the rail. But just curious, since the issue is to do with electrical contact (or more specifically for DCC, electronic contact) then why not use electronic contact cleaner, such as CRC QD Electronic Contact Cleaner, MG Nu-Trol, WD-40's electronic contact cleaner, or others?
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy Ай бұрын
See my videos on using DeOxIt.
@IronhorseEngineering
@IronhorseEngineering Ай бұрын
Thanks for your video Larry. I’ve used brightboys for years and had no idea there were different abrasives in them. How does this correlate with the NoX videos you did a few months ago. If I remember correctly you didn’t recommend any abrasive cleaning method. Please expound on the two products and their interactions.
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy Ай бұрын
As I said in my previous video, I only use a Bright Boy to remove stuff like glue and paint which won’t come off using a rag or IPA.
@IronhorseEngineering
@IronhorseEngineering Ай бұрын
@@TheDCCGuy Thanks for the clarification Larry. Keep up the good work.
@toddshryock1634
@toddshryock1634 Ай бұрын
What happens if you've already used a traditional Brite-Boy on your track? Does the new one smooth out those grooves or are you just out of luck?
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy Ай бұрын
The same fellow did a followup video where he buffed the scratched rails using the new bar and it actually smoothed out the scratch marks.
@markdeschane4467
@markdeschane4467 Ай бұрын
I don't see a link to the other Video?
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy Ай бұрын
It pops up at the top of the screen at 3:52 and is also on the end page.
@markdeschane4467
@markdeschane4467 Ай бұрын
Can you give em a wweb site where I can find this product.?
@DavidMoyer-zl2xv
@DavidMoyer-zl2xv Ай бұрын
So how do you clean the bright boy
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy Ай бұрын
Soap and water.
@DavidMoyer-zl2xv
@DavidMoyer-zl2xv Ай бұрын
Also do you know what grit size it is, Like 240 or more like 600 grit.
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy Ай бұрын
They aren’t as coarse as most Bright Boys I have so I’d guess on the finer side.
@riogrande5761
@riogrande5761 Ай бұрын
Does anyone in the US sell track cleaning blocks like the one made by DCC Concepts? The shipping from England costs as much as the track cleaning block.
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy Ай бұрын
As I said i the video multiple times IRON PLANET HOBBIES, but as I also predicted they sold out already this morning. Watch the whole video for my suggestions on other sources in North America.
@riogrande5761
@riogrande5761 27 күн бұрын
@@TheDCCGuy Multiple times. Didn't mean to test your patience. Cheers. Iron Planet got a bunch more in and I have one coming in the mail.
@riogrande5761
@riogrande5761 19 күн бұрын
Following up - Iron Planet finally got the DCC COncepts track cleaning blocks. I ordered one and have it on hand now. I wonder what you think about the Peco track cleaning erasor looking thing. They seem similar. Somewhat soft but still cleans track.
@bobkohl6779
@bobkohl6779 Ай бұрын
No link to video!!
@TheDCCGuy
@TheDCCGuy Ай бұрын
It comes up at 3:52 and again on the end screen!
@donaldshroyer8633
@donaldshroyer8633 Ай бұрын
Using ANY abrasive to clean soft metal is a stupid, stupid idea. The most abrasive thing I would EVER use on my track is a cotton sock. Dah.
@jims6323
@jims6323 Ай бұрын
A fine Scotch-bright pad works just as well and is a lot cheaper! Ten dollars for a small rubber eraser is riduclous!
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