Stimming reviews 1010music Bluebox / Blackbox
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3 жыл бұрынIn this video, our in-house reviewer, Martin Stimming unpicks the BlueBox and BlackBox from US-based 1010music.
The BlueBox is a portable digital audio mixer with 6 stereo or 12 mono tracks and the BlackBox is a compact sampling studio with intuitive touchscreen control which received several firmware updates in the last months giving this sampler a ton of new features. Let's see what Stimming hast to say about the two stylish boxes.
Addendum from Stimming:
The BlueBox records each track into an individual file, making it a true multitrack recorder, I didn't make that clear. I also forgot to mention both devices stream all their audio from the micro sd card.
The noise doesn't come from the 1010 units, it was the headphone amplifier of the Sounddevice recorder.
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@MartinStimming 3 жыл бұрын
another thing I forgot to mention regarding the blackbox: the audio output voltage fits inside the eurorack norm (5V?) - that means two things: any audio output can be used inside your modular system as triggers, envelopes, fm, you name it. and then: its output is very loud! (and clear :))
@francobrecken4304 2 жыл бұрын
Instablaster.
@konstantine8054 Жыл бұрын
Got a question for you that I've been wondering for a while: if you're only recording one synth, why not go Blackbox > Bluebox and save yourself the hassle of having a more complicated signal path? From your video, I only saw you use the EQ as a filter on the Bluebox, but not the recording options, so I am unsure what was the purpose of the feedback patching you set up, and I am very curious about your thinking. Fat chance, I know, but I'd love to get an answer.
@TheGreekSamurai 3 жыл бұрын
I could watch Stimming review gear forever
@musictalk-tech 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear. More to come. Support us and subscribe if you like.
@Anthony-sn9kl 3 жыл бұрын
Same.
@AppAxis 2 жыл бұрын
Gives Netflix a run for the money.
@Lhenndyn 3 жыл бұрын
I could watch 6 hours of Stimming reviews in a raw. The best !
@musictalk-tech 3 жыл бұрын
Feel free, we need some watchtime 😂
@thelantern9075 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got the Blackbox, it seems quite simple at first, but it’s really a very creative magic machine. Granular is insanely beautiful for ambient stuff, and poly playing samples is gorgeous. Love this machine. Sound fidelity it quite on point as well.
@roccoharris 3 жыл бұрын
this is great!! thanks for walking us through all this so thoroughly. very, very helpful stuff. bravo!! that little jam right before your summary is a sweet, little organic groove. brilliant!!
@MartinStimming 3 жыл бұрын
thank you sir!
@KordTaylor 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool! Really like seeing these together.
@henryAightch 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone does a good review on the Blackbox! Love that machine. It's quirky but it is super cool!
@aradder 2 жыл бұрын
Just picked up both of them, cool to see a video using them together. My wish for firmware update on the Bluebox is per-track dynamics on the inputs. Even a basic one-knob comp/lim would be an amazing addition.
@jahmontee74 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, been eyeing the bluebox for multi tracking my eurorack jams.
@musictalk-tech 3 жыл бұрын
Important information: The noisyness doesn't come from the 1010 units, it was the headphone amplifier of his Sounddevice recorder.
@MStimming 3 жыл бұрын
thank you mister director for clarifying this - indeed, our expensive recorder has quite a bit of noise on the headphone out, thats why I was confused. both those boxes are impressively quiet!
@sapbucry 2 жыл бұрын
is microphone going to Sounddevice recorder or is it recorded independently. I am just trying to work out how you sync Martin voice with the rest of the audio in your setup, thanks! If that is MixPre 3 then there is place for stereo from Bluebox + vocal from lav...
@KordTaylor 2 жыл бұрын
Such a great video! Exactly what is was looking for thanks. Time to subscribe so I can all the latest Blackbox tricks.
@matrixknobs2848 2 ай бұрын
Very good presentation, thank you
@GuitarsAndSynths Жыл бұрын
Love my Bluebox works great and also have a TX-6 on the way as I like small mixer recorders that don't require a lot of space.
@chridmeister 3 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't Stimming have a million fans? He rules
@milanwulf 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Bluebox and love it so far, but I wish there was a cue/pfl button to switch between the main mix and the selected tracks on the headphones. Also a one knob filter would be great, otherwise a super nice unit that replaces my bulky Mackie mixer.
@510th 3 ай бұрын
me everyday "why does it work now, that is strange..." enjoyable and informative as always, cheers :D
@thesesmallboxes 2 жыл бұрын
This was excellent! Your reviews are a dive into how the units are used. Oh, and I feel equally “awkward” saying “DAW”. It’s an acronym that doesn’t really invite pronunciation so I just spell it.
@spenzakwsx4430 3 жыл бұрын
just call it Goldbox. Because everything Stimming touches becomes gold.
@timschannel247 2 жыл бұрын
From a haptical point of view very nice, because there is still enough space for your fingers turning the encoders/knobs and you have a quite huge display.
@inf0tr8r 3 жыл бұрын
need the bluebox now.. love how these are named too.. reminds of phreaking days
@musictalk-tech 3 жыл бұрын
A great little powerful box. I ordered one too 😀
@techtalkmike4968 3 жыл бұрын
... that would make Stimming Captain Crunch!
@crolodon8024 3 жыл бұрын
The part where he second-guesses twiddle, ahaha, loved it.
@konstantine8054 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, you're really funny! I'll buy you a beer next time I'm in Germany, this was an unexpectedly fantastic review!
@musictalk-tech 3 жыл бұрын
there are many more here and at www.eb.tv
@chateautemp 4 ай бұрын
@@musictalk-tech that's a lot of beer
@leemski 2 жыл бұрын
THX! Great vid!
@markob808 3 жыл бұрын
Stimming Is The Truth!
@musictalk-tech 3 жыл бұрын
@Marcellus_MB More to come soon. Novation Circuit Tracks Review next week. Pls. subscribe to support if you like.
@peterpan3492 3 жыл бұрын
Cool review- thx
@ReasonedWhistle 3 жыл бұрын
Martin is the best! :) Liked and subscribed. Cannot wait for more content :)
@musictalk-tech 3 жыл бұрын
Next Review next week - Novation Circuit Tracks
@projectswithstrangers3860 3 жыл бұрын
thank you appreciate the review i guess i need to get it and a di and a preamp
@iamrocketray 3 жыл бұрын
Wow Martin! 1010 aught to pay you a commission. This is the best review/tutorial of the Blackbox/Bluebox that i have heard, and in your second language, you are a very talented guy and you have sold me on the blackbox bluebox combo. I was considering Rolands MC707 but no more, the 1010 workflow is exactly what I was looking for considering that i am not a musician, more a tech type who wants to make music.
@RoryCorrigan 2 жыл бұрын
I have both and I can say that the 707 is very intuitive and I have been able to sit down and just start getting ideas out pretty quickly and easily.
@sentimental7167 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review, thanks. So you use the EQ of the Bluebox a bit like a Filter (effect). And recording individual tracks would be inside Bluebox in 48khz/24bit, mix being recorded in Mixpre at 98khz/32bit. I agree that the Blackbox is not really a stand-alone device.
@No.0.o.0 3 жыл бұрын
There should be a shift+scroll to minimize twiddle times for long files. :3
@Decoy303 3 жыл бұрын
Every electronic music device should have a shift function to move patterns from left to right.
@jaxager 2 жыл бұрын
It should have a dedicated volume knob too. Every device should. And it would be great if it scrolled the names of files as you highlight them in the preset screen. This is something every device that has samples should do. I have the Roland MC-101 and they don't do it either. Very annoying.
@RonanSkillen8 Жыл бұрын
Wonderfully eccentric review! Looking forward to cutting my teeth with the blackbox 👌🏽
@Anthony-sn9kl 3 жыл бұрын
Stimming Reviews ❤️
@sykromsmile6303 3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@H4NDCRAFTED 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I love hardware , koala sampler on iOS is the most useful I’ve found. Bouncing that into an mc707 makes workflow super fast, and the chopping finds that zero cross over so quickly. The mixer seems much more exciting out of these boxes.
@musictalk-tech 3 жыл бұрын
The Granular synthesis makes the BlackBox very special in my opinion and it's very intuitive. But yes, I prefer the mixer too. Some great features and there will be more updates for sure.
@orphanfrequencyyeah1742 3 жыл бұрын
Together with the Beebo/Digit this would be a portable ministudio.
@CO5MA 3 жыл бұрын
🙌🏻
@siccavicca Жыл бұрын
Hi …tnx for a great review of these two machines .. I’ve been thinking about the blue ox ..but could you tell me if it can now sync as a slave .. I’d Ike to use it as a slave when recording sessions . Tnx on advanced .
@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene Жыл бұрын
Why isn't the BlackBox black? :) ha ha. I own a BlackBox and YES, when I powered it from the same USB source as my Roland Boutiques, massive noise, MASSIVE. Used the power supply from 1010Music included, noise 100% gone. One item I made sure of when sampling synths into the BlackBox is that they were analog to constrain the number of DAC and ADC's. So your review would be more impressive with an analog synth, the recording quality of the BlackBox is absolutely incredible, pristine and highly professional. The BlackBox has 3 stereo outputs, not 4, and highly configurable between 3 stereo or 6 mono, or anything. I have no detectable noise in my BlackBox using the included power supply.
@cn300 Жыл бұрын
Was der Typ anfasst, wird Gold
@burkimoo 3 жыл бұрын
stimming in we trust 😊
@mmhcreates 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting boxes, thank you for sharing. Also, "Twiddle?" is a word, just to confirm your mild confusion.
@SpeakerNoise 3 жыл бұрын
Martin, thanks for the interesting review. You mentionend a recorder in the beginning of the video. What kind of recorder do you use top record those reviews? Would the 1010 mixer bei suitable? Thanks for the inspiration!
@musictalk-tech 3 жыл бұрын
www.sounddevices.com/products/
@SpeakerNoise 3 жыл бұрын
@@musictalk-tech Cool! Danke!!
@pierrekuchmann3944 5 ай бұрын
Super interessting
@rohanjoseph101 3 жыл бұрын
Superb review! I want both! What kind of cables are you using trs on both ends? Also mind sharing their brand?
@leftmono1016 3 жыл бұрын
Assume they’re trs both ends for stereo. Branding doesn’t matter!
@spekenbonen72 Жыл бұрын
On guitar, you can try to fix/avoid noise by using a separate powergroup/fuse (which you only use for your instuments. Even a simple ). Not sure if this applies to keyboards/samplers etc. (Glimmröhre and even L.E.D. lights can cause noise, if on the same group)
@macognia82 Жыл бұрын
In your opinión whichone will be better for live performance if you had to choose ?
@jaxager 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of too loud... I wish the blackbox had a dedicated volume knob. Every piece of gear should have a volume knob. In my humble opinion
@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene Жыл бұрын
Pro levels from high quality preamps are getting very rare these days, I applaud BB on their quality product that does not need an additional preamp at the mixer to bring a weak signal to normal. Maybe you should add a mixer or a DAI that has level controls to your rig?
@qwut9544 Жыл бұрын
@@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene I keep reading replies like this to very valid issues, regarding this unit: “just use another peripheral!” My opinion, so far, is this: your reply isn’t an incorrect solution. It does reinforce my suspicion that the unit is not a great value at the price point. With all of these peripheral connections I’d be better suited to use my laptop.
@Thedrumsthebass 3 жыл бұрын
Your own channel Stimming? Good stuff. Subbed
@musictalk-tech 3 жыл бұрын
Not his own but he is an important part of this channel
@Thedrumsthebass 3 жыл бұрын
@@musictalk-tech good move on you guys part. I love the way he thinks critically , it’s like a super power
@musictalk-tech 3 жыл бұрын
yes, and he is just a nice and very skilled musician. PS. We did the reviews on EB.TV with him as well. Just release them on our own channel now.
@chateautemp 4 ай бұрын
Are you still happy with the Blue Box? Do you often use the 'stems in DAAAW' via SD or is it primarily a live mixer for small setups?
@salassandoval 3 ай бұрын
Blackbox doesn't send program changes!!! What do you suggest for this? Or what do you usually do in a live performance? Do you change your patches manually if you are sequencing external synths with the blackbox? 😢
@tiffanzsolti Жыл бұрын
Please someone tell me what TRS cables does Stimming use here? The colored braided ones.
@underwoodblog 3 жыл бұрын
What brand are these green USB-Cables?
@shookstylez 2 жыл бұрын
How do you use these live? Is there a way to dj full tracks or use backing tracks on the bluebox? I think it could be great to see a tutorial or video from you about this Stimming! Love you
@Delphinixa 3 жыл бұрын
On the Bluebox : Lower the gain and volume of the channels you don't use = less noise :)
@musictalk-tech 3 жыл бұрын
Pro-tip 😉
@markmary9440 3 жыл бұрын
A new gear review Channel - including awesome Stimming - he ist the nelson müller of gear reviews ;-) We wanna support - is there a donate option ?
@musictalk-tech 3 жыл бұрын
At the end of the description 🙏
@Eightball69 3 жыл бұрын
Oh balls I'm going to have to pull the trigger on the Bluebox now 😝
@musictalk-tech 3 жыл бұрын
I ordered one too 😬
@Eightball69 3 жыл бұрын
@@musictalk-tech just ordered!
@DRRNNDGL 3 жыл бұрын
damn just went from having no interest in either of these machines to being totally sold on the blackbox, excited to see what the bluebox becomes further down the firmware update line too
@victordelacruz8440 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what I'd like to compliment my TE OP-1 classic. I am looking at this one as oppose to the TX-6.
@istvantoth7431 Жыл бұрын
What's the computational capacity of these two? (RAM)
@el9delcielo Жыл бұрын
You should sample/ remix/ re-edit this video! It is full of cool sounds. To be honest, i kind of did (in my head)
@808Wood 2 жыл бұрын
I hate sampling and daws because I just have a mental block with them and I am not good. This looks right though. I think I could have fun with this.
@strangesevin 3 жыл бұрын
I want to record a microphone with digital effects pedal would that work and guitar too . I haven’t bought blue box because I need vocals and my. Guitar please let me know . everything sounds real good and great channel .please let me know if you know a work around thanks I liked and subscribed
@DM-gd8ik 2 жыл бұрын
Have they implemented an "unquantized" option yet ?
@donkeyfacekilla1 3 жыл бұрын
Will the EB Tech Talk series also be on this channel from now on?
@musictalk-tech 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, most of the tech stuff like Studio Tech Talks, Ask The Producer etc. plus some new series over the time.
@NedRush 2 жыл бұрын
I can confirm twiddle is a word.
@Decoy303 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly would just use this to capture samples off of movies, old music CDs and vinyl records.
@MartinStimming 3 жыл бұрын
and then you could immediately build something useful with it.
@LaymensLament Жыл бұрын
id recommend an old sp for that job tbh
@ncapone87 Жыл бұрын
@@LaymensLament nah this is better
@Philodrone 3 жыл бұрын
It seems pretty good but kind of uninspiring at the same time. I've been looking for a sampler for a while now, but still not sold on this device. Midi features, time stretching and granular engine, what else would you need, right? Edit: maybe midi cc sampling for automation, that would be neat! Bitbox with its CV sampling capabilities might be the one, but eurorack is pricy af... Nice video as always! ✌️
@MartinStimming 3 жыл бұрын
When the Blackbox came out I thought exactly the same! But they managed to make a difference to any other sampler out there (mostly in efficiency in pretty much every aspect) which is making it a joy to use...
@rewwhiskas4234 3 жыл бұрын
I currently have my Blackbox running from a Squarp Pyramid and it's an amazing combo. Suddently you have step sequences and LFO's and so on running per-pad parameters.. super powerful! :D
@techtalkmike4968 3 жыл бұрын
@@rewwhiskas4234, for some reason I did not think of trying this combo ... which I have. Going to try it out tonight. Thank you!
@rewwhiskas4234 3 жыл бұрын
Where are those nice pink and blue braided cables from?!
@sidcatlet 3 жыл бұрын
the machines are noisy only if you plug them in a usb hub or some usb port that is not grounded or something, i use a power bank or directly to the grid and is supersilent!
@musictalk-tech 3 жыл бұрын
The noisyness came from the Sounddevice headphone ampflier, so false alarm.
@noahsiekmann4275 2 жыл бұрын
@@musictalk-tech yes, in this review it was the headphone Amp. However, the black box IS prone to USB caused ground noise. I know this because I own it and have experienced the ground noise. If you use a USB cable with a ground isolator on it, the noise stops.
@projectswithstrangers3860 3 жыл бұрын
is there any way to record vocals and guitar or only synths
@musictalk-tech 3 жыл бұрын
You can record everything. Bluebox is a mixer with recording function
@teabreakbeats 3 жыл бұрын
They should make a darkblue box that can do both (sampler and mixer) when required
@harshrealm 3 жыл бұрын
If the bluebox had a looper I'd buy one immediately
@TS-ku7gi 3 жыл бұрын
Blackbox, a great and simple piece of equipment explained in a complicated way.
@musictalk-tech 3 жыл бұрын
Let's say in a more creative Stimming way 😉
@chateautemp 2 жыл бұрын
@@musictalk-tech it's what he doesn't say that makes it so compelling. A lot of feeling. Bit like the music.
@medenine4828 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome - what type of midi cable is that, that links the blue box and black box without needing the bulky 5 pin din? V cool.
@LostStylus 3 жыл бұрын
Regular audio trs 3.5mm cable
@AndrewJohnClive 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. My only complaint was I bought it as a polyphonic sampler, but it just freaks out when trying to use polyphony. Everything els www as great.
@MStimming 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, it reaches its limit quite early, even faster in granular mode. from a modern perspective this is annoying but for creativity its not necessarily a bad thing...
@georgenada6413 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of getting one of these but somewhat discouraged to hear it doesn't handle polyphonic well. Not that I was hoping to make pads or anything. Four voices on the specs is fine but not if it freaks out!
@Limbic1000 3 жыл бұрын
Funkworm! 2005
@NeoLudditevisons 3 жыл бұрын
Need a stimming microfreak v3.00 review please!!
@musictalk-tech 3 жыл бұрын
@Martin Stimming
@NeoLudditevisons 3 жыл бұрын
@@musictalk-tech its totally worth another ‘mighty Microfreak video! V3 is like a new synth
@musictalk-tech 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeoLudditevisons we know
@NeoLudditevisons 3 жыл бұрын
@@musictalk-tech awesome!!!
@olejuul482 Жыл бұрын
Just got the novation sl mk3 - same problem - the company asked me to record a video while playing it - because "It's ONLY my SL mk3 with this problem" 🤥 !!!!!!!!
@mosonic 3 жыл бұрын
What was missing in this review and I waited for it: what about the quality of the reverb and the capabilities of the delay? And can you - Meister Stimming - recommend the built-in equalizer? Can you recommend the reverb?
@MartinStimming 3 жыл бұрын
hey mosonic, you're right - I didnt talk about it. so, the blackbox reverb is of mediocre quality: in the digitakt league but less tweakable (three parameters) and it sounds not inspiring at all, its useful though. the bluebox reverb is different as it has 15 parameters including very interesting spread and feedback values, and it can do riser/drone sounds with the size-value. still - I haven't got an opinion about it. so far I have a mixed feeling about it - I would say it could beat a mediocre 100eur guitar pedal and I can imagine finding a value set that is inspiring and unheard but too often it sounded weird while using it. the eq is pretty good, I like the most that you dont hear if a band is switched on, I'm talking LoCut especially - where the (pretty bad) simple ableton eqs already colour the sound, the bluebox eq doesnt do any harm to the audio. havent checked deeply how a shelve in high-frequencies sounds. hope I could help.
@jaxager 2 жыл бұрын
I just got mine yesterday. So far... I'm hating this thing. Using the sequencer is beyond tedious. I know this little thing does a ton of shit. I'm just going to have to figure it out. I'm coming from using the Roland MC-101, which is easy as hell to use. I have not tried sampling or hooking up external gear to control it yet. I haven't had the opportunity. I better grow to like it because I bought it used off of Reverb so no returning it for me. I've learned a valuable lesson though - don't buy used gear until you've made damn sure you it's something you want. I will give it this though - it sounds amazing. Whatever DAC they are using kicks ass.
@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene Жыл бұрын
This is a "musicians" sampler, performing (playing in the sequences) instead of using a step sequencer. We musicians find all step sequencers from any device EXTREMELY tedious and frustrating because we have to program in all the articulations and note values. When, instead, we are skilled to simply play in the sequence with any note value and be done with it in a few seconds.
@istvantoth7431 Жыл бұрын
You are not then only one pal. I am interested in these two, I want to love them, but based on all the reviews on KZfaq, I am really not convinced that I should spend the cash. Also I hate USB powered devices. Every last one of them. It's such a cheap way to save on production costs.
@zeusdeux 2 жыл бұрын
I’d watch Stimming review a roll of toilet paper even from start to end
@musictalk-tech 2 жыл бұрын
Exciting 😂
@mmhcreates 2 жыл бұрын
Presumably only the start and end would be significant. "It began with paper, divided, yet fused together. This went on for sometime, proceeded by the presence of a bare, rolled tube of cardboard".
@raphaelward1711 Жыл бұрын
One wavelength you mean to say. Not waveform. Presumably
@FloCastells04 3 жыл бұрын
Dude you have some Collin Farell in you
@Cymatic18 Жыл бұрын
Can full bears be made on this?
@user-qf4zs6qj4c 3 жыл бұрын
"And this is bullshit..." :)))
@Decoy303 3 жыл бұрын
So USB powered sound devices just need too stop being made if they are going to create unnecessary noise floor. That in itself just hurts my wallet.
@musictalk-tech 3 жыл бұрын
These boxes here don’t have any noise. It was the headphone amplifier from his sounddevice recorder. False alarm!
@flipflip4537 3 жыл бұрын
Mine was noisy unless I used a separate power then it was fine.
@MartinStimming 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, but not for those devices. they are one of the rare ones that got it rght!
@noahsiekmann4275 2 жыл бұрын
You can add a ferrite clip on isolator to your USB cable and the ground noise disappears. The noise issue isn't with the black or blue box. It is an issue of cheap USB cables or USB cables with out the ground noise isolator built in.
@DayflightTrok 2 ай бұрын
Cat Music
@starwars007oele Жыл бұрын
Tesla! Sexy? Omg
@SebastianBeyer 3 жыл бұрын
Boa, für die Kohle dann doch lieber Elektron?! :) hahhaha 👋👋👋 I can't handle it. Aber mal ehrlich, der Mann kann schon sehr sehr gut mit gear umgehen aber wenn schon stimming struggelt und härter menüdived als bei elektron sind die Kisten leider bei mir raus.
@musictalk-tech 3 жыл бұрын
Definitiv einfacher zu bedienen als ne Elektron Kiste beim ersten mal. Martin benutzt beides ;-)
@SebastianBeyer 3 жыл бұрын
@@musictalk-tech weiß ich. Ich fand den digitakt (mein erster Elektr) recht intuitiv. Hatte aber auch vorm Kauf 1000 Videos geschaut :)
@justice6480 3 жыл бұрын
Screen to small don’t care what you say good luck seeing that in the dark on stage
@musictalk-tech 3 жыл бұрын
To each their own.
@lindsaywebb1904 3 жыл бұрын
Lol. I managed with a tiny MPC screen for years
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