Best thing I've heard in a long time; "learn to play inside the music, rather than outside of the music".

I loved "I tried to do the VanHalen thing, and I really wasn't that guy, but what I was good at was playing the guitar for singers and songwriters and artists." A lot of beginner guitarists approach the instrument as someone else; like a VanHalen; only to find out that it wasn't for them, making them feel like they're not gonna make it, or ever be good enough. But you just gotta find your style, and practice a lot and you'll make it!

MIND BLOWN! This is the video I've been searching for: two of the nicest, most modest (yet AWESOME) players and teachers on the block just dropping absolute gold knowledge every few seconds! As a guitarist who made the commitment to go beyond playing the pentatonic, everything they said was so incredibly important. Let me boil down the video's treasure trove of advice into one simple sentence: If you want to be an incredible lead player, you have to go back and put that time into learning all the chords and chord shapes up and down the neck! That's the key to playing with authority, and also the key to being a melodic player! It sounds crazy and counterintuitive, but it's true! If you want to play lead, you must also learn to be a master rhythm player!

"Like stones in a river that you can jump on..." What a great analogy! It's like someone smacked me upside the head! Thanks for the lesson Steve

Ahhh Tim, both musically and pedagogically a master. Thank you for hosting him and tee’ing up such a great topic.

Hello Steve This is what my teacher is trying to teach me now. Several light switches were just turned on. You and Tim are amazing teachers. Thank you for all the instructional support.

Awesome to see these guys together. Two of youtubes best!

Hi Steve. Thank you for having Tim on. He is amazing, and of course so are you. Tim made so much sense to me about the chord change and the note changes for the lead. Now I can see why you keep telling us to learn the notes on each string up and down the fretboard. 👍👍

Tim Always Blows My Mind with his playing--far above my ability to follow him as one should. I think You Both Rock and I appreciate your teaching style and the knowledge that even someone as proficient as you is still on the upswing in learning. I love this instrument and am blessed daily to enjoy playing it. Thanks Steve for all you do and Stay Well.

I watch many instructional videos to improve my playing. Lately I have been watching your videos almost exclusively. This video, for me personally, shows why that is the case. Awesome stuff Steve, many thanks.

It's cool to see so many KZfaq guitar people pairing up. Tim Pierce stands out however. It's easy to see why he's done so much session work - he's so on top of what he does but what also strikes me about this guy is his ability to clearly communicate what he's doing.

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Steve and Tim in one video lesson.. thats just awesome 😄 thx

Hi Steve,for me i went throught your mastercourses and practicing all the scale and modes.I been putting my 10000 hrs and i snoticed that it all starts flowing and meshing naturally

And to my ear....these two men are great lead players.....cheerz boyz

BIGGEST THANK YOU FOR THIS LESSONS ! NO WORD TO DESCRIBE HOW MUCH I THANKS YOU GUYS FOR MAKING THIS GREAT GUITAR LESSON.

Tim is a legend. A big influence on me and anyone else who does session work. Thanks for this.

Two of the best. So nice you've shared anything at all with us. Can't believe you share your thoughts and tech. Sure wish you two were in a band together. That would be awesome to drift off in the tune. Thanks. Y'all are the best.

Best lesson I've seen on how to solo "in the music" rather than "over the music". So beautifully put! Great lesson. You and Tim shall certainly do more lessons together.

A little correction ...if your playing a Bmi and a GMA you can be in GMA key you can just play G Maj or B min can be the 2 min. chord in the key of Amaj.call it Dorian if you like mode names on each chord such as Bmin phrygian and G Maj.is Ionian , But B natural min belongs to the Key of Dmaj. ....I think that's what Tim ment to say 🎸🎶🎶🎶✌

Steve you already have great insight to share but by bringing in the "mighty" Tim Pierce you've just upped your game 10-fold brother! A great guy and full on professional!!! Kudo's to you and looking forward to the continued collaborations!! Very cool!!!

Steve, just found your channel, great info, super clear and right in my pocket as well, thanks for being here!

I had this idea that guitar music was all about cocky shredders, but you guys changed my mind. Thanks for the great content!

I found this after seeing you on Tim's channel.....what a joy to watch both of you discuss things. Subscribed!

LOVE THIS! Thank you Tim and Steve!

This video was about as perfect an instruction for the young & intermediate guitarist as it gets, congratulations to you both on your great work!

Love Tim Pierce's lessons and how well he plays to everything.

It's so great to see you two get together. I have checked out dozens of guitar tutors on KZfaq but I keep coming back to your good self, Tim Pierce and Brett Papa. All three outstanding teachers and gentlemen. Thanks Steve. BTW I would love to see you do something with Brett Papa; it would complete the circle IMO.

Outstanding video. I'm at the right place, at the right time, and you guys are absolutely on point.

This was so great. To have both of you discussing all aspects of playing...just fantastic. Tim is legendary. Love it. More videos like this would be great. Thank you sir! 👍👍👍

This sums up the complexity of guitar soloing its so simple now, thanks steve and tim really appreciate your effort.

Concept is very important!

Thanks guys, you are both my favs to learn from!

Great video. Tim is really awesome. Thanks Steve !

Thank you Tim...very cool...

Excellent video tutorial. I watch both of yours video’s very very often and have learned a lot from you. Have bought also a lot of your lessons. I will practice this approach more from now on, in stead of the “in box thinking” approach. I was wondering what Tim would play if it a repeating chord progression.

I like Tim great guitarist . I really like his approach to the minor scales .

Great video guys! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us! ✌🏻🎸🙂

Thank you for this session Steve! I liked the options available, especially the arpeggio sounding of the chords. Now to get to seeing these notes, shapes and keys - fluidly - up - down and across the guitar finger board 🤔. Thank you 👍🏽👍🏽.

Steve, I am so glad you connected with Tim. If you and Tim could please continue to collaborate that would be huge for us! Please also find Rick Beato and Pebber Brown. Thanks.

OMG, you ANNNNND Tim in the same Vid????? WHAT HAVE I DONE TO BE SO FORTUNATE!? Steve your vids are spectacular, as is your education. Please keep it up!!!

Playing over vs inside. Really great way to put it. 👌🏻

very, very helpful!

Great minds think alike!!

Great video. Really enjoyed it. Here’s my two cents - from a guy with zero LA sessions to his credit! :) I like to take advantage of all the different colors available, so I don’t run out of ideas before four bars are up. For example, I might go from natural minor over Am to dorian over the D(7) to harmonic minor over the F. That way, you could build cool lines that use an F against the Am, an F# against the D(7) and a G# (briefly) against the F. Passing tones also add some nice transitional color. For instance, a chromatic line from C to C# to D as you go from Am to D. Depending on how you do this, you can also imply the secondary dominant (A7) to set up the change to D. One color tone I really like is the B or b5 against the F. To my ear, it’s pretty sweet and doesn’t really need to be in passing since it’s in the scale either way. Of course, you could also briefly use the 4th of F (Bb) which is not in the scale and resolve it to A. Tim mentions using Am pentatonic against the F. That idea works particularly well for a jazzy sound since it leaves out the root and offers more of a major 7th sound. It all depends on the style of music you’re playing. A great idea for jazzy pop, but perhaps not as strong for country, etc. It’s a simple progression, but the possibilities seem to go on and on. Especially if you consider extensions and substitutions.

Awesome stuff man love Mr Peirce and you to Steve my friend

I think what Tim present in this video is how petrucci make his solo. That sound amazing, playing not too focus or root chord to the scale. I've learn something new! Thank U steve!

Steve is the greatest teacher ever

Awesome lesson today Steve and Tim.

Studying jazz and how to play over those changes will take your playing to the ultimate level. Then you’ll know how to sub chords and how to play inside and outside the harmony.

Best 19:21 I have ever spent on KZfaq.

Good info i always tend to land on the 4th i consciously try to break out from that theory is key in my opinion to help creativity

As I’m watching this I looked at my bookshelf of music books and lo and behold, I have a book called The Nashville Pattern for Guitar. Sweet! Time to dig in!

Great lesson.

D for DAIM!! Great video.

Thank you Tim/Steve... I just had a 'A HA' moment !

Awesome collaboration!

two of favorite guitar players/instructors doing a video together. what more can i guy ask for?

That was great !

Great interview and information. I am a beginner and have been learning the pentatonic scales still working on those.

This video is very very helpful. Thanks steve.😊

awesome Steve .God bless!

Tim rocks

So... Triads and Pentatonic scales. Noice, noise, noys. Love it

That was freaking awesome! Thanks!

Next level things. Thank you for the insight :D

2 my favorite guitar KZfaqrs!

Check Tim's endorsed book. Music theory you can use. Especially if you're starting with it.

I was heavy into DreamTheater and Petrucci's wild speed etc. I even tryed to adopt his right hand position. But it just didn't work out for me. And although I am still drawn to that speed, I really like that funky, style of rock rhytm guitar like Nuno and Slash (in some cases). I've learned it's something that suits me better and fulfills me more than that shredding thing... Well some of those shred moves remain and they sure turn some heads...

Who else got a chill at 9:17 ( " and you learn the modes")

Follow you both love you both!

Two kings!!

2 great instructors!

Really interesting! Great video, great players.

Awesome lesson, thank you.

Awesome sauce. Thx

Thanks Steve!

Great video!

Hey dude, I worked at the same guitar store you did. Taught there I mean. I am not sure if we met or not. Just wanted to say congrats on the channel, I've browsed quite a bit to help me sorta explain things better. Keep it up sir.

I ove this jamming :-) sharing of ideas,,,,thanks folks

Steve/Tim, at 4:53 into the video Tim stated he would play in the "key of G". He then starts a scale in the key of D and ends on the G note. Mixolydian? Please clarify.

Great video! Good questions. It just now dawned on me that if you can play over the chords in one key, you can play over the chords in any key as long as it was the same chord progression. Like Tim said, you just move what you are doing to another location on the neck. I can play over a slow blues 1,4,5. in any key, but if you change the progression to something else I'm lost. What would be a good second progression to practice playing chords over? Thanks for the vid! : )

love to buy u a beer 🍺 Steve 👏🏻

I love chord tone soloing....speed is secondary....to my ear

Nice!

Amazing video but I Googled "National number system" and "Nashville number system" keeps coming up, which one is it??

How lucky we are that we have tutors like this to learn from, this was a master class. I have 11 triangle players giving it the thumbs down.

Steve can you use the circle of firths And scale tones /chord tones with this I just got what he using the circle of firths this is scale tones I need to learn both scale tones and chord tones

one of those scale runs he did was straight out of Rush. Very amazin g jamming lesson. Steve do you have recommendations on electric guitars for people relearning after a long time away from the guitar ? Was thinking about PRS guitars or ESP LTD guitar.

“Linear playing….not really interacting….like Tim just did.” 😂 I get what you meant….but it still sounded funny. Like just the smallest amount of shade. 😂

Tim said that Bm is the natural minor in the key of G. Isn't it in the key of D? Can someone explain it to me

This is really amazing. One question if I may, the way Tim sees the chords and shapes, is that the caged system he uses?

Hey Steve, great video and thank you for sharing! This was very helpful! Would you be able to make a video with how to apply this to metal? Example would be Master of Puppets where you are soloing over mainly palm muted E with some power chords thrown in. Do you just mainly play around E and ignore those other chords that may or may not be part of a key? Trying to figure out how to apply when you aren't playing over basic chords. Thanks!

I land on the 7th more often not the 4th

B natural minor would be the key of D not G ........... B phrygian is in the key of G :)

Was all this just CAGED (I have Steve Maase's book, Tim's teacher) and it seems to fit. I haven't finished it, but is good althougha little confusing, especially in the homework sections because there are some minor mistakes and probably because I already had some theory I have to match to the book.

2 cool guitarist

But if the chord is playing longer , u need more ideas on the same chord if it’s longer that 1 measure. Just wondering about this ?

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