Well put

Pin it pls

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Okaaaaayyyy i was way too confused! Thanks

Are you a looper??

It’s Not getting enough attention!!

trauma

Exactly

Yeah lol Even in games Dark And Light elementals are both efficient in destroying eachother

factss

While Robin might just not mind, I'm not sure about Psn tho, I think he does mind, he has stated in the comments on some video that he cannot economically allow himself to get another device (Brazil and all) and is therefore at an unwanted disadvantage. Other people might not just lack the funds, but even more importantly the *time* to learn the ins and outs of a new device, Brez explained in one of his videos that he wouldnt be sure if he could compete with the current generation because it's full of youngsters that have loads of time on their hands, while he's just busy with his day to day work. There's just too many variables in play for it to be a fair and square competition, and thus it should be divided in two different categories: one for extra devices, one for the default 505. And "It's like saying that it's unfair that Dlow has so many sounds and the opponent doesn't" is about the dumbest analogy you couldve made. With practice, everybody can achieve those sounds, they are not physically hindered by the "hardware", it's simply because they haven't practiced as much or just aren't as good. So here's a corrected version of your analogy with a sprinkle of imagination: It would be unfair that Dlow has so many sounds, if he had a tongue/lips/vocal chords (choose whichever) and his opponents didn't.

I agree, it’s like just get over the fact it’s already happened, not gonna change

@@fireblitz3438 exactly

They dont know how enjoy life 😅

The funny thing about this, is that people disagreeing to the judges choices. But at the same time, these people are agreeing that the judges are one of the best loopers and they deserve being judges. So I dont understand why they hating on the decisions of judges that they agree on

Ik…I’m already prepared to see those comments. 😕

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No it was 3 min because it's an old round from him, he did it already on the mk1

I think it was his gbb20 wildcard

And btw it wasn't 30sec left, the timer did start far too late, he already silent recorded

@@leanderseiler your are telling me he silent recorded 30 seconds and no one noticed except you??

@@999Aadil-Op nobody said that bruh. he just said he already silent recorded, meaning he has used some of those 30 sec. furthermore those 30 sec are just extra because its a new loopstation

1. Yeah I just found out abt this news 2. My point still stands tho. The point i was tryin to make was that extra devices arent op. Rythmind won gbb without an extra device 3. I still think NME won tho, just a personal preference and ik im not the only one. Thanks for sharing tho! 🔥🔥🔥

@@stitch_mus1c yes of course. There are sooo many loopers who use only the rc505 and are better than so many second device users but, keep that in mind that in 2019 using the second device was not as popular as its right now. Even Rythmind is using a second device now! Yeah its totally ok. People have different opinions and its completely fine but the thing is that Inkie won by majority in the way i see it. Perfect rounds vs rounds that have flaws and mistakes...and also the performance...idk. np dude✌️

@@SoheilHab Yeah the second round of NME(Begin by letting go) has the high hat and kick placements off, really bothered me. Also he repeated that round too, forget about what NME did because INKIE just killed it. I disagree with what Stitch said about whom he would listen to again being the deciding factor, that would lead to conflicts as it all depends on personal taste.

@@Garro0 yeah Inkie clearly won... He said when the battle is toooo close to call who won,not any battle and that makes sense to me

The passive aggressiveness of this comment lol. People often overlook NME. His first round against inkie was incREDIBLE from a music stand point. It's in 5/4.

I felt the same about Robin’s. Musically, it was one of my favorite looping compositions to date. I loved Frosty’s as well , but musical taste wise, I lean towards Robin.

true

imo we should introduce 2 different categories for looping. Single device and multiple device looping. Brez had a good idea for the upcoming GBBs: You could have those 2 categories and the 2 winners from both categories could battle against each other at the end which would be a pretty cool idea for me personally.

@@kyrex1785 I think the idea is a little redundant actually. If the entire point of the categories is because second devices are so OP, why make them battle at the end? If second device is so OP, wouldn't they just win the final? You could argue that 505 loopers are essentially proving themselves by making it to the final, yes, but really any good single device looper could do it normally. Extra effects mean nothing if you don't use them effectively. I do agree maybe second device users have a slight advantage, but the gap is not nearly as significant as people like to think, and I think we've created a culture where people who lose to second device users are more inclined to believe the second device is the reason. TL;DR: 505 loopers have beat second device users in the past, the advantage isn't enough to consistently be a real problem. The MKII is also closing the gap, so we are making progress.

​@@crab323 The last major offline event was GBB 2019, and the second device game has reaallly gone up since then. It isn't just having an advantage, it's also the whole debate about pure beatbox/machine produced music. Look at Frosty, Oxygenic, Kristof, Inkie and soo many others - the level of sound design and mix and even the build up speed is honestly impossible on just the 505. Even then, there was so much controversy around Inkie losing vs NME because the judges felt that some sounds weren't produced from the mouth which is why he may have lost. Tbh as long as there is just one category, there will ALWAYS be some kind of disparity between the two, just that it may favor either side. Again, you could argue that PSN came first in the wildcards without extra devices, but the very reason his wildcard was impressive was because he is only on one device. If he did all this with like a Line 6 Helix, people wouldn't have been as impressed honestly What I'm saying is, a single category is like trying to judge a race between a normal person and a cripple - it just isn't fair for either of them. Instead of the judges trying to account for the differences in the judging, it's easier to just separate them both. (also I'm just discussing my view, not any kind of angry rant)

@@kyrex1785 Honestly, I would love it if the winner of both categories have a fantasy battle! That would just be perfection, and there's also no win/lose controversy

actually all of frosty rounds have more views than robins... so i guess the argument "will be heard more often" cant quite count. Its up to the judges taste in my opinion

It's really about personal taste, I listened to Frosty's second round an unhealthy amount of times

@@frankymojo6248 wot In Tarnation please provide a link with the videos with more views

@@bnoodles8971 frostys First round has right now 7k more views than robins first and frostys second has 19k more than robins second. Just look at swissbeatbox channel

@@frankymojo6248 woops I made a mistake 2 times, just cause frosty has more views doesn't mean Robin's sound are more heard, because more people use sounds like Robin

you say rc505 have limits still no looper know how PSn do half of his sounds

I have not watched PSn a lot but i checked out his "Juliet" routine and to me it seems like in that routine he is simply using a lot of delay, beatscatter and pitchbends. If you have a intimate enough knowledge about the effects on the 505 or just effects in general you can pretty much reverse engineer anything made on the 505 with moderat ease

@@Armpitfan finally, viewer that know about loopstation 👍

bruh xD

Just order both and i die alittle inside because you ordered both. But at least it is worth right?

Then you go with your preference. For example in this battle, frosty offered one of the best hard drops and powerful style, and robin offered one of the best musical and calming styles. Whichever style you prefer then you can go with it. Same thing applies to your example, if you prefer pizza in general, then get pizza, if you're more of a burger fan, then get burger. They taste equally good cuz they are both the best of their kind, but it depends on the personal preference

I'm a bit scared that nobody could do a better round

I think it would take away from his charm as a vocalist/beatboxer, honestly. There's a humanness to all of his tracks and for me that's due to the pure vocal power in all of his tracks. So he doesn't have much use with more devices, unless he's going for a more special-effect based looping style.

@@ajesco Totally agree

@@ajesco This, people seem to think that the second device is a magic do all. Where as in reality it mainly helps to layer effects and create more complicated textures or allow for more difficult sounds (see inkie/frosty) or effects to be produced faster (such as sxin). The second device absolutely provides an edge and really allows for hyper complex almost industry standard tracks to be produced, but there is a reason you dont see many vocalist or traditional elitist beatboxers using them. It would allow for some seriously complex tracks with musicality but I dont think they would be as good because they would likely sacrifice vocals in some parts as a result. I own a similar device functionally to a line6 and far too many people misunderstand what they can do and just hop on the hate because famous loopers dont like them. There are reasons not to like them but people really think its a magic do all are wrong.

The only difference is that I think Frosty won here. Personal taste, that's basically it. 😊

I did?

@@stitch_mus1c yep i mean like the photo of the video

@@GamingChannel-zo6qi OH U MEAN THE THUMBNAIL. yeah i was trying smtg new

@@stitch_mus1c 🤣🤣 i'm really bad at english (im from Russia), and thats because i didn't know how to spell this right, really sorry 😣

@@GamingChannel-zo6qi its okay xD

Idk why, but i was imagining that robin gonna film his round on a roller coaster 😅 Its kinda weird lol

Ya, for example classical music and dubstep are both so sick and not easy to make, but it depends on personal preference. Someone may prefer classical music more, the other may prefer dubstep more

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