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finally someone said that not every char does not need to be mommy like

30 Polychromes huh. Daring today aren't we Hoyoverse? You might end up bankrupt if you give out this much

Lmao "maybe in 5 events from now we can finally succeed in gaining one pull ! " lol

4:08 That 30 polychromes is going to come in clutch! lol

If all character is like changli "Mommy" character the game will be boring.

zzz stopped running to wait for you to continue sleeping

I think wuwa is gonna somehow turn into a stronger pc game with more international appeal. At this point kuro NEEDS to get it on consoles because it probably would live best there with the more intense combat system

30 of their currency for such a big milestone? Scumverses attitude towards players is outrageous. At this point they must be sued. I have no words. They give no foks, and millions of zombified people give them tons of money... Wtf is going on? Why? how? This company makes me vomit.

Hoyo: can't pull with 30 Monochromes? Pocket Issue.

I havent played ZZZ so when i heard 30 polychrome, i thought those were the event pulls, and i was baffled. I thought, "wait is hoyo actually being generous?" And then i found out that it was just 30 of the premium currency, not even a single pull, and reality hit me. Hoyo could never be generous lmao

5:40 I think its work acknowledging that there are alot more PC players on WW than mobile, so PC revenue is actually fairly relevant

wait till people find out were getting the 5 star dude for free and were getting waveplate storage in 1.2 as well as the game becoming playable on playstation. Wuwa collecting dubs like mint

Funny how people call this new Wuwa girl “boring looking” and yet actually looks pretty distinct from the rest of the female cast who all feel the same despite the hair colors.

Well it seems HSR stays the the best/most generous Hoyo Game

Everyone is talking about how "Wuwa is gatekeeping more of their possible audience because they are releasing too many guys" but like thats how the game started in the first place. The first 5 star was Jiyan and still did pretty good in revenue. Anyways I think these people have no basis because thats just what is advertised when you start the game if you see the banner cycle its male female male female which to me is great I like to see well done males too though who cares about gender tbf just make good characters which they are doing.

Im still happy for WuWa and Kuro Games. They came from just one game that almost not making a lot of money but now they have one that can potentially be on top 3. I'm might not be a whale but I monthly buy the Pioneer Pod cast and the monthly asterite subs. I just hope that the game will be more optimized for android this uo coming months.

I feel like Wuwa attract PC gamer more than ZZZ did and Wuwa Mobile performance was terrible at launch so that definitely affect the sales But yes, Hoyo name is just already too big and famous at this point so they have much easier time selling ZZZ than Kuro who is still relatively unknown outside of the gacha space, being able to break out of that bubble with Wuwa is already a huge success despite the lack of Covid buff that Genshin got during their release. I hope Kuro keep up their good work and still being generous to their player base instead of following Hoyo example of milking everything they could because they can

7:38 majority of CN advocated for playing on PC. I believe 70% of CN playerbase for WuWa is PC while 30% is mobile

Ended up quitting ZZZ, got to 35 and did all my pulls then compared to what I got for the same amount ish pulls in Wuwa and what I had to play with. It's just not F2P friendly enough to be a sidegame and I'd rather spend my money on Wuwa personally.

The Wuwa characters look good. The male simple color scheme (grey-black-blue) is perfect for him, it's more symbolic of his character that as a cyborg simple=efficient, no needs for bells and whistles. As for the girl, her more modest-librarian look is perfect! We don't need a Yinlin every patch, and she has glasses! Do we have any other character with glasses? (Aalto doesn't count he has sunglasses). Enjoyed the video but the end dance is epic. 😂😂😂

Oh wow so generous 30 polychromes is like 2-6 achievements...

The other downloads in zzz are pre registered, i experience it and a lot of people where the game will be downloaded on the phone and yet it says that the phone is not compatible to run the game...

Does every download a single person does count into the 50 mil from zzz? If so there are 6 downloads from me from ragequitting the game with deinstall and install again :D Just wondering I think many ppl did that lmao

Not even a single pull worth of rewards with 50M downloads and 20M revenue, sounds sus to me....😅

30 Polychrome? Hoyo is Hoyoing. This isn’t going to help the promotion…

playing both but sticking to WuWa. ZZZ doesn’t feel F2P friendly enough. WuWa feels like a gacha that respects players’ time and i’m all for that. Hope Kuro games continues the service of such an amazing game

Stix the reason why wuWa pushing new characters that are 5* is because we will most likely get a selector sooner or later like PGR does.

I have a slight issue with how ZZZ drip feeds materials and pull currency from too many sources. Almost every gameplay mode has an additional menu at the bottom to unlock progression currency, after many quests you get the quest reward, and then have to run to the police mascot to get his chump change, the redeem codes are pretty tiny, yet fairly numerous, and then these mail rewards are fairly tiny at times... Its so much running around and menu navigation to consolidate all of these sources. Its a forced time sink mechanic and I hate it. Can't they just kill these secondary progression menus and stuff and roll it into the actually clear currency so I don't have to run around collecting scraps and my clears feel more rewarded? Also tell me I'm not the only one that thinks after clearing the Bangboo Trainer league mission that we should have been given a free copy of the Shark Bangboo since he was "free" in the mission and it would have been an absolutely great reward for how long that mission is?

They did give 1,600 polychrome for the 50 million downloads. Also the large amount of free pulls makes it easy to get characters especially in the beginning so i think it also reduces sales

the download in zzz is mostly ghost download. i have a mobile that i used to pre register and it made me download zzz upon release but i cant open it and it got removed from playstore cuz of incompatibility issues and i bet this thing happened in most downloads

slight correction on the video, the numbers you reference on the twitter posts are slightly less than the numbers kavehs (kevin) happy birthday tweet got. but thats probably because of all the meme regarding him being in jail/missing

0:03 yeah the company name carried it nothing new Also I think wuw have more players in pc then mobile

I've had the darndest time keeping track of everyone's names in WuWa. 😅 I've had some bad RNG on the time-limited characters, and completely missed out on the general guy (the leader of the Midnight Rangers), and missed out on the puppeteer lady. But I did get Taoqi, who I really took to. I really like her moveset. Also randomly got Verina, the 5-star "flower girl," from the normal banner (I lucked out there). Also lucked out with the lion dance dude, Yianling, I think his name is? Also got the gym owner boxer dude, Yuanwu, as well as Mortefi, Aalto, and Calcharo, from the normal banner. Also just got Jinhsi the other day. Right on my first ten-pull try. I was ecstatic! I really like her moveset.

30 polychromes. Meanwhile other games will give you a whole 10 pull

ZZZ DID have a larger launch than Genshin, HSR, and wuwa. However it did not incentivise spending due to a lack of actually being able to use your characters. In the first 20+ hours of the game, you spend about 16-18 HOURS of that purely in the story or hub worlds, completely unable to see the characters you rolled for. Why would I spend hundreds for a character I cant even LOOK at?

Kuro was never looking to make WuWa the "Genshin Killer". Just to dip their foot in the market. I've been loving the game so far. I've also been really liking ZZZ. It's a different style of game that I can appreciate. People need to stop fighting and appreciate the good games we've been getting.

China: Zenless Zone Zero Japan: Genshin Impact Global: Wuthering waves. Close enough, welcome back World War 3.

well good, i can save in 1.2 after Changli in WuWa xD waiting for Tsubaki

thanks for the news bro have been grinding wuthering and snowbreak

Kuro vs hoyo rewards is just insane, i am only going off wuwu and zzz but kuro seem to care and hoyo seem to see us as numbers. Just my take Also like the new Outro

isnt that 30 currency just random event on their app? I mean not a big deal of event to give 10 pulls.

1:30 her eyes look like a NTR hanime female led tbh

I don't play Wuwa but I don't see any problem with Zhezhi and Xiangli Yao design. Though their name sound too repeatative.

Also that ZZZ song has a similar chord progression as Careless Whisper, and I can't unhear it

The main problem I have zzz is the download won’t work idk if I’m the only going through this problem I wish they’d fixed this

Mihoyo just loves the number 3, don't they? • HI3 • 3 primogems for 3rd Anniversary • 30 polychromes for ZZZ I shouldn't be laughing cuz WuWa has problems too but I can't help it😂😭

I cant play it on my phone, it says not compatible, yet i was able to download it day1 and it crashes every time

Mihoyo will give shit on a plate and shills will eat it and say *Thank you, may i have more?*

Most important about zzz vs wuwa revenue is that its mobile revenue. Massive majority of wuwa players is pc, where zzz is catered towards mobile.

I play all four games, and I think it's great there's competition. I remember being completely heartbroken when I tried Tower of Fantasy. I could see the development budget was decent, but my impressions was that they didn't focus enough on gameplay and character design. I'd much rather they released a smaller world, but without such glaring weaknesses. Once the early game is cemented with flaws, that's going to hurt the game's user retention forever, even if there's improvement in later patches. ZZZ surprised me in a positive way. I knew the game is not exactly open-world, but the end result was a quite immersive experience.

Kuro: gonna give limited 5 star in 1.2. Hoyo: Here is 30 Polychromes. I think we all know name of the company we should thank with our $.

Like clockwork. you can set it to Hoyo quarterly earnings, makes you wonder... Makes me question some things

do you wanna know who is gonna be in first banner?

Considering how hardware demanding wuwa is, its actually impressive how they were able to get those numbers.

Wuwa could do better if they optimise in mobile version and release ps version

I have a feeling ZZZ is going to follow Genshin's path which is treating players like trash. That was the main reason why I quit Genshin and because of how few rewards they gave to players through its trashy time-consuming exploration and events back then. (I wonder if It has got better since I left a year ago).

definitely not enough pulls for ZZZ to be a free F2P friendly game. Ill continue to spend my money here and there on HSR and keep grinding on WUWA. I think I will stick with those 2 games

just checked my ZZZ mail, and the 50mil milestone thank you gift is 1600 polychromes, not 30.

Imagine Hoyo donating their own money to make ZZZ look like they earn something .. CRINGE ~ 🤣🤣🤣

100% agree when you said not every character has to look flashy like changli/yinlin

Upper Echelon Gaming mentioned Mihoyo funded to Nuclear with slogan Otaku Save the world after he said medical treatment

25mil with 50mil downloads, so if 1mil bought monthly pass plus BP, that's already 15mil so this number is not that big.

I don't know about others, but I'm the most excited for Ayanakoji to be in the game, cause he's just like me fr fr

i remember xiangli yao was tease before..i don't remember what video but he was talking with mortefi.

I'm having fun in both WuWa and ZZZ. Sue me.

When calculating the revenue of a game, please remind that ALL of them are ESTIMATED except official announcement, besides, types of platforms should be considered, e.g., PC/PlayStation/Android/iOS For example, WW can only run on PC/high-end mobile, ZZZ can be played at more platforms. So which platforms are the source of these revenue is important.

can someone clarify what 30 polichromes are in terms of pullls?

Stixx will you cover dong from wuwa he answered some of the Q&A about the development of wuwa😁.

Everyone wants a piece of the gacha market pie but that pie isn't getting bigger, the slices can only get smaller.

The dude is going to be free btw. I'll probably be pulling his weapon instead. He looks like he will work really well with Yinlin.

I do tend to like characters that could be out of my fantasy romance novels over just another shounen anime. Shark girl doesn't pique my interest at all, but I had a hard time deciding between Jinhsi and Changli

That's another reason I quit zzz giving out 10 limited pulls for a launch event is a big red flag. 30 polychromes is a joke.

Well if you really played Zenless Zone Zero after the 7 day login reward for 10 pulls they give out another 7 day login reward for another 10 pulls

In fact they gave 1600(a multi) for the 50m downloads, and added a new login bonus for 10 more pulls.

PGR anniversary is around the corner with Alisa patch. I know its different game but I still hoping will get something too but if not then that's okay then.

Hypothetically speaking, wuwa could’ve probably made more if they weren’t generous with the pulls.

Thanks for supporting husbando enjoyers stix!! I dont nees it to be 50/50 or anything but throw us a bone on occasion... !

I dropped ZZZ swiftly, but it ran super well on my phone. WuWa ran kinda rough, but was decent. I really wonder how much this impacts mobile numbers as well.

I said this before but issue is you won’t get the “funny” (haha guys her boobs are huge right guys, horny posting so funny) reactions from streamers when they look at these models, which is also a factor in character popularity when people see a streamer go “yooo this character looks sick” and sadly as of late these types of reactions are preserved for tall female models mainly and also tall male models just because of their model, and not much else. I really would like to see more than just tall male/female model every patch it will get hella stale.

China isn't a big spender cause they can't even play it at all, xD. Most Chinese players usually play on their phones and with the atrocious phone optimizations, I'm not suprised

25mil of revenue.. But we give you 30 currency..... not even a 1 pull.

Zhezhi looks unique, u dont see gacha girl characters with her aesthetic. I also feel like if WuWa came first on the gacha scene before genshin it would’ve made a lot more. Genshin already cemented the genre because it was refreshing to play a quality game back then.

xiangli yao is confirmed to be a free limited 5star character

i got stunned by that 30 polychromes HAHAH

I really hope kuro makes more 4 star characters it adds more team diversity quicker than 5 stars to the game. Thats one thing of the few things i was happy about in genshin. They made more 4 stars(even though most were lack luster compared to launch 4stars) which added alot more faces to the collection.

if Xiangli Yao looks ordinary then what about Jiyan or Calcharo? They also look ordinary but are not. In fact, Xiangli is more unique-looking cause of his mechanical arm

According to a Chinese leaker, Xiangli is extremely likely to be a free character

I think the reason for the 25 mil is because they give you so many pulls in the beginning you really don’t have to purchase anything to get the unique banner character (Ellen) I think going into the newer characters, after everyone has blown their pulls(pause) then players will start purchasing.

At least there's another log in event for 10 pulls that just started today. But I do think Hoyo takes unnecessary losses when it comes to their milestone rewards to where they might as well not even have the 30 currency, or 3 wishes.

At this point ZZZ is getting carried by it's company's name,regardless of what game this company spews out will always generate money in the 7-digits

I just want wuthering waves to have controller support for android. I honestly cannot continue praying it without that. Thats the reason why I'm in level 9 in wuthering but 26 in ZZZ with a full team of level 30's with level 30 w engines and level three 4 skills.

You are pretty much wrong HSR was not well received because it was a turn based game the reason it was so much known than ZZZ, because HSR is Honkai the game from HI3. Honkai universe is the most well-known setting of hoyo and most character share the same design on a different multiverse, many of the players came from GGZ and HI3 just like me. People like who loved Himeko from HI3, Bronya the face of Mihoyo, Selee, Welt, us who were excited of possible Elysia(best girl) multiverse, alot of us fans of honkai verse will always invest on any honkai game. The very reason why Hoyo decide to use honkai verse in the MMO like rpg new game. ZZZ is a new standalone story like genshin, so it is not known by most people, plus people will still judge the game on the next few updates before considering a game to be worth investing into. For me though it is worth investing and have drop Wuwa. Sorry to say this but Ellen Joe has the most unique character I have seen after Elysia of HI3.

Wuwa led their first banner with a guy. Theyre not about to neglect the hot bois

If everyone is special no one is special.

Snowbreak, path to nowhere and ZZZ.

I think another thing to note with the high downloads but lower revenue for ZZZ is that it's the 3rd major Hoyoverse release. I think players are just playing it safer/smarter/wiser spending their money on pulls and resources after getting burnt on the previous two games. Hahaha.

Xiangli Yao also looks badass with the cybernetic limbs, seriously.

Well I had 5 re-roll accounts ready to go for ZZZ launch, cause I know how stingy Hoyo is. Maybe cut the downloads number in half or more if you want a "real" number...

At this point we all know hoyo go for the route that make the most money, appealing to the most amount of players.