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@b4ptistАй бұрын
The design of vehicle unlocks is so defeating in war thunder honestly. Grind for so long to a get a vehicle (tanks esp) then, once you get it, instead of excitement its the dread of stock, slow planes with no missiles and wonky guns. Wonky guns at higher tiers should just be removed when people have missiles. Also in tanks you are sluggish with terrible firepower and unable to really actively react to situations. Its comically bad design. (but good design for $$$) Don't even get me started on stock helis.
@Idk-cz9msАй бұрын
Helis are the absolute worst thing ever
@clicktresni6298Ай бұрын
Look I've been playing the game for over 15 years. I like to play Sim. I have top tier us and I wanted to be able to play the other team so I figured I'll go top tear Japan I was over half way and it still cost me 350$ .
@Pvt_WadeАй бұрын
@@clicktresni6298for over 15 years? war thunder is 11 years old or 12 years old at Best including the beta
@clicktresni6298Ай бұрын
@@Pvt_Wade exactly
@clicktresni6298Ай бұрын
@@Pvt_Wade The point is if you want to play top tier right now, you either need to be really good at the game which means you're able to set up a bot and cheat or you need to spend money
@Cardinal8427Ай бұрын
The change to the stock grind is much appreciated, rank VIII jets were insufferable stock with Fox-3s flying everywhere.
@X_face_dieАй бұрын
Real
@thatguy7990Ай бұрын
when will the change be implemented
@MAV_509Ай бұрын
@@thatguy7990its supposed to be implemented this week
@mangosuppe8706Ай бұрын
Thank god i dont have to use r60ms but r27r when stock grinding the 29a😂
@MAV_509Ай бұрын
@@mangosuppe8706 seems like a relief, now i can start stock grinding my F-15J(M) and Su-27SM, i held off on stock grinding them because how crazy top tier was during the update going live
@milbin1795Ай бұрын
My strat for stock grinding against fox 3s are sit on the runway for 5 min, then sneak a base in while everyones busy
@cotopaxi9743Ай бұрын
Bro finally activated windows.
@EB-Ghost6Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@ratiiirАй бұрын
the av8b+ sock grind was by far the most painful experience ive ever had in war thunder
@ev17danАй бұрын
It's horrible, but what's worse is the lack of competence your team has when you do spade it, I think my team just flies straight into fox3s
@bt_the_yank6234Ай бұрын
It was the su27sm for me. Idk why the but the harrier wasn't that bad for me
@doldie5704Ай бұрын
for me the mirage 2000-5f
@areyou0k98Ай бұрын
Stock grind was hell but the payoff was amazing, you quite literally got a free ace every game haha
@spitfire_7132Ай бұрын
I recently unlocked AIM-120s on the F-4F ICE, no premium. My KD was 14 kills to 59 deaths when i purchased the AMRAAM mod.
@ZigzagEndАй бұрын
one of the reasons that kd doesnt say a lot, stock grind really puts an imprint on it
@TheoldSouthАй бұрын
My squad mate doesn’t have it spaded yet and he is positive with it. Skill issue
@sapiensiskiАй бұрын
🤓@@TheoldSouth
@TheoldSouthАй бұрын
@@sapiensiski cope
@ZSlayer_05Ай бұрын
@@TheoldSouth ragebait lol
@TitanSlayer2751Ай бұрын
I kept getting slammed by amraams stock grinding the f15c so I got chaff pretty much purely from just taking off it was actually painful
@darthmaul8912Ай бұрын
That's the new META. taking off + landing + taking off + landing. :D
@AZ-dj1niАй бұрын
@@darthmaul8912wait, that work?😂
@TitanSlayer2751Ай бұрын
@@AZ-dj1ni I’m pretty sure it does, idk how effective it is and I think he was joking when he said it was the meta but yeah
@darthmaul8912Ай бұрын
@@AZ-dj1ni 120 RP per takeoff and 120 RP per landing is much more than most players archive against Fox-3s missiles.🤣
@darthmaul8912Ай бұрын
@@TitanSlayer2751 Well it could be META for the most horrible planes.🤔 Like some WWII bombers (Wellington, FW-200) and Yak-38 stock. From all 1200+ vehicles spaded those where the worst planes in my opinion.😅
@Spectre4490Ай бұрын
0:38 This splash is absurd, the AIM-120 has 23 kg of explosives and flies at a speed of more than Mach 1, it is unrealistic that a fragments from a warhead can tear off a wing
@rjcentral639Ай бұрын
It looks like that hit directly not splash damage
@Spectre4490Ай бұрын
@@rjcentral639 i watched frame by frame and looks like it missed 2-3 meter away
@oryiumАй бұрын
@@Spectre4490 missiles have a proximity fuse so that when it get within a certain distance from the plane 1-3 meters or something like that. The missile will explode
@nitrous_godАй бұрын
they also usually have rods in them that expand outwards in a ring shape. those can very well l shear off wings
@dotnask0001Ай бұрын
MiG-29 stock is cancer. You get two R-60Ms, to research basic R-60s. The ones from 9.3.
@littletweeter1327Ай бұрын
Yea r60’s are absolutely useless nowadays. You have to rely on oblivious enemies which is horrible design.
@_mr.first_Ай бұрын
Same as F-16A (basic) with AIM-9Js, I wish they would remove these dogshit missiles from 9.3, and leave just 60Ms and 9Ls
@jdreyes3745Ай бұрын
Meanwhile the F-15C with stock 9Ms but having to research 9Ls:
@dotnask0001Ай бұрын
@@jdreyes3745 Same shit. But Aim-9L is competent. R-60, basic R-60 is a rear aspect >2km range with no proximity fuse metal pole, at 12.0.
@alexturnbackthearmy1907Ай бұрын
@@littletweeter1327 And even THAT doesnt work, because R-60 will track anything that isnt enemy plane. If there is heat signature, it will go for it instead, even mf mighty mouse.
@notsocasualobserverАй бұрын
Something I did for RP when unlocking very early modifications for the F-15C was flying very, very far to the left below Mach 1 and basically completely give any early game activities up to, you know, not get instantly banished to the shadow by by 3 ARH-missiles simultaneously. Then I'd kill bots and artillery units for pity RP, since (in my experience anyway) very few people bother killing ground units at top tier. Though do be aware that killing bots is a different story and they usually start getting killed after the initial exchanges, so if you are aiming for bots you have to be quick, while avoiding the enemy team like the plague. You could just rush at the bots but I'd advise against that if you don't want to trade your death for one or two bot kills (provided you live long enough to get any, which is the main issue). In short, there is no "actually good way" to stock grind, there is only pain.
@jetnavigatorАй бұрын
I do stuff like that too, but it's a horrible experience.
@lthotpocket8259Ай бұрын
Personally, i blame the "we want DCS but in warthunder" crowd. Multipath needs to be reverted back to 100m, and team sizes 12.7+ need to be fixed at AT MOST 8v8
@bt_the_yank6234Ай бұрын
No multipath is fine. Teams do need to be substantially smaller though
@patrioticpanda7618Ай бұрын
@@bt_the_yank6234no, the current multipathing is not fine.
@lthotpocket8259Ай бұрын
@@bt_the_yank6234 respectfully, no. Multipath NEEDS to be reverted until 8v8 is the standard size. Anyone who says otherwise is part of the problem
@rjcentral639Ай бұрын
I don’t think many people want DCS in war thunder people just want the radar missiles to not have a end all be all safe space and be completely ineffective, which has the side effect of creating the furballs that most people hate, and these furballs, if multi pathing, where to be reverted, would only get more cancerous when they add more advanced fox 2s. The planes at top-tier were designed for long range combat. Therefore, they should be able to competently do long range combat.
@ferrous3262Ай бұрын
the dcs but warthunder crowd voices are very loud cant beat them at this point
@rileyxbellАй бұрын
Yeah you should try this with the AV8B+. Basically the same problems but 10x worse because ur subsonic and u can't even make it to a base before the match is already over and u get clapped every game with 0 points.
@devendoffing7004Ай бұрын
So the issue we’re faced with now post-change is they changed the multi-path height so that radar missiles aren’t useless, but without stock chaff then they’re way too strong. They need to add stock chaff
@kalumbailey5103Ай бұрын
I went from a spaded gripen to a stock tornado, life is fun.. 2Ls and 32 flares baby
@Kheron56Ай бұрын
I stock grinded the av8b, subsonic with 2 9ls. Reminded me of the no stock flare days. Omg i got fucked for 50 matches
@141menaceАй бұрын
same man, but when u get the amraams its probably one of the most fun planes ive played
@Kheron56Ай бұрын
@@141menace agreed so hard
@duncanmcgee13Ай бұрын
Lately I've been using my stock planes in sim. The longer match + respawn makes it less grindy. You even get full use of your boosters.
@RiscouseАй бұрын
Well tthere is one option for me to grind exp for modules, literally you have to wait until a lot players fall, and then go for ground targets if you don't have bombs, missles. Good spot for is to flank then when there is "clear" sky enter the battle and it is important to fly along a straight line of fortifications because then we will be able to destroy the most ground targets. Also no one took a word if there is a plane or tank we ussualy can't max upgrade it to enjoy playing it. If you ask me, grinding planes at 9.3 and up, I couldn't upgrade them completely and I already had a new machine to play
@cvrbon6Ай бұрын
I haven't played top tier since the 1st day of FOX 3 update, the update coming this week giving stock FOX 3's should help a lot. That F-15C stock grind was pure suffering.
@mrgarland5210Ай бұрын
Fox 2 only jets shouldn't be able to fly against fox 3 jets
@ev17danАй бұрын
Like the F16A at 12.0
@cofro3284Ай бұрын
This is the same argument of people playing flareless jets facing all aspect missles. It's such a big leap in technology that it shouldn't be happening in game.
@KaguyasBeatАй бұрын
I went through it with the 27SM and 15J(M). Felt a bit better with the SM but it can be argued I got lucky with the games I had. Not having basic countermeasures is criminal. It was criminal over a year ago when flares still had to be researched, it still is now with Chaff needing to be researched. A basic set of countermeasures should be a no brainer. BOL pods and the like: I can understand that being researched. It takes a lot of time just to research one of these planes. You finally get there, and now you're faced with the awful stock grind you have to go through to be able to actually enjoy the plane you just spent all that time looking forward to and working towards. I'm glad it's being addressed somewhat with new stock loadouts... but we're still ignoring lack of Chaff as a default for what is now inherently the radar missile era.
@BlanchboiАй бұрын
In the most recent major update they did give the F-16C and a number of other planes IRCCM Fox-2s stock. That doesn't change very much though considering it's only two close range missiles that can be pretty easily flared. What's really nice is that we're now getting those IRCCM missiles alongside stock Fox-3s, so the stock grind should be much less painful. It would be nice if they also gave us stock chaff, but if I had to pick between stock Fox-3s and stock chaff I'd be choosing the Fox-3s any day of the week.
@Old_ShakesАй бұрын
My strategy when i started the stock grind was to sneak up on targets with 9Ms its not even worth using SAR against fox 3s
@elitely6748Ай бұрын
Yep, got 150k rp left on F-15C this stock grind is going to kill me
@devdream9277Ай бұрын
You'll get the Fox 3 stock by the time you're done grinding the F-15C, so it won't be as bad but good luck
@FloatyBones77Ай бұрын
Having to research chaff is so fucking stupid. None of the planes that fit it would be going into combat WITHOUT IT. I can understand unlocking more weapons, but a basic defensive measure like fucking chaff? Christ.
@admiralfox08Ай бұрын
was stock grinding the new belgian f16a yesterday, got up to 9Ms but it was fucking painful
@ovrwrldkilerАй бұрын
The stock missile on the f16c is now the 9m, not the L like you had. It doesnt help with closing the range, but if you do get a chance it means you can actually do something with it. Still so glad that theyre giving medium range missiles to everything soon though. Just the fact that stock planes will now have 4 aam instead of 2 is a big help.
@hoijiang1791Ай бұрын
Bro I played this game 2700hours basically unlocking every top tier jets but still died like 25times trying to unlock the level 3 modification on f15c
@darthmaul8912Ай бұрын
+4000hours here... Bro you are not alone.
@AllHailMerp-DBMusicianАй бұрын
When I first unlocked the F15A, it was the most horrible experience since that aircraft without the boosters mod was just not flyable
@mangosuppe8706Ай бұрын
8:12 100% agree with what you say here, gaijin has really been stepping up how fast they're taking out higher and higher gen jets I think they might be pushing it too fast, i mean we will guaranteed get 4.5 gens next year max with how quick they're going
@RayjackerАй бұрын
Should hopefully slow down after that, they're not gonna put out 5th gens without ECM even existing in the game (at least I hope so).
@mangosuppe8706Ай бұрын
@@Rayjacker yeah i agree, no way they'll do that without ecm, but i hope ground spaa is way better when that happens
@SkelatalmaniakАй бұрын
FOX3s have made top tier really unpleasant for everybody who doesn't have them. Even with a fully spaded, regular Su27, its not difficult to acquire a lock, but good luck maintaining it post-launch while you have 5+ missiles flying at you from every direction and you're trying to evade. You can't even get close to an enemy without them throwing these things in your face the second you get within 5km (within the MAR, so you're truly screwed no matter what). It quite literally feels like bringing a knife to a gunfight. On top of it all, people are just treating these like AIM54s on steroids. Seriously, the first ~3 minutes of each match, you can barely move because everyone climbs, dumps their FOX-3 payload, and then turns around to RTB, leaving you dodging and desperately trying to notch every missile at once.😂
@miniraptor3211Ай бұрын
This update has been the most discouraging update I've ever been a part of. I just want to get my Sea Harrier and Harrier 2 but the best I have for Britain is a half stock Phantom that I bought the day of the update being live. A week in, I stopped playing Britain entirely because every match is an uptier to Harrier 2 world where I have to dodge amraams from across the map and even if I get through that, the wall of F-16s is next. The worst part is that the community is basically saying that it's my fault that I'm dying when I'm just trying to play the game
@zachpawАй бұрын
I think they wouldn't have hurt the gameplay experience as much when they added fox 3's if they wouldn't have lowered the multipathing height. We have been hugging the ground for so long that we got used to it being the answer for all radar missiles, now that things changed everyone is having to learn to adapt. It will all get nerfed into oblivion eventually just like when they added 9l's, 9m's r27er's, and mig 29's insane flight model when added.
@mrcsproncho3798Ай бұрын
The only way to get out of stock now is arcade mode, you spawn near the enemy spawn where you can shoot your ir rockets in dogfight
@starfireix8207Ай бұрын
I stopped playing war thunder after hearing that most existing top tier jets did not get ARH and that you had to grind more jets to get them. I really hope they do more updates to fix the stock grind because the gameplay looks so disgusting now. This is paired with the fact that they didn’t reduce the player cap but made it as an "opt-in" that makes it difficult to get lucky with.. I'm just not going to play top tier anymore until they decide to fix it all-together.
@alvarovillatoro5187Ай бұрын
I gave up the idea of playing the Improved Baz (Israel F15) on Air RB, I learned to play simulator battles to be able to upgraded this plane.
@luckyjack6197Ай бұрын
I agree with you Seek. I have been playing since beta and very much enjoyed air realistic battles and sim for over 10 years. After this last missile change I uninstalled. I don't feel like spending more money on this game than I already have to get the active radar homing missile and I don't want to waste my time getting pulled up into matches with them as a stock jet or a jet that that will never get them. The gaming experience right now sucks. I am relaxing and playing other games where the company actually thinks about the impact of their decisions before they subject the player base to it. I have heard there will be changes, but after so many stupid decisions from gaijin I have had enough. I am glad you were honest about your evaluation and didn't pull a defyn "get good loser" on your viewers.
@Kirito_01422Ай бұрын
I kinda do enjoy the fox 3 meta but straight up agree. The stock grind was ridiculously poor. There was a lack of thinking at all considering with the addition of fox-3 the extreme increase in fighting at range. It should have at least put in their minds that stock IR had a severly limited range against radar missiles but even more so now that you no longer have to maintain a lock heading towards the other guy. If you were there at the begining of the update with or nearly having the jets with the new toys it was grindable as not everyone had it but now, its a literal pity rp grind.
@user-yi9ul3gl9mАй бұрын
I can’t beleive gaijin made an actually good change giving us more stock loadouts!
@bingusbobby5012Ай бұрын
Tree height man why are the trees 200m tall? Also why do the missle still track when you are behind cover lol, i spent a minute behind a mountain and when I finally came out i ate a aim120 that had just been floating in the air waiting for me
@RayjackerАй бұрын
Inertial guidance? It remembers where you were going, speed you were at, etc. so it goes where it thinks you'll be at when you pop back out, so when the missile loses track you need to change direction to confuse that.
@codyfox2876Ай бұрын
During the last month they've probably been making BANK off people using GE to buy modifications in order to end the pain. I do think most content creators take that for granted, and this update just really emphasized it to a huge degree.
@jonthecowboyАй бұрын
The F-15A stock grind made me almost totally stop playing the game only two days after the plane came out. I still don’t have the AIM-9M
@raketny_hvostАй бұрын
imagine playing against top tier in current 12.0 which will not ever get even stock sarh
@Old_ShakesАй бұрын
I don't even bother queuing 12.0 I either go top top or I just use much older planes
@ratiiirАй бұрын
@@Old_Shakes 12.0 is broken rn it gets downtiered to 11.3 pretty much every game
@Cardinal8427Ай бұрын
@@Old_Shakes I've been having a great time in the F-16A lately, it get's downtiered most of the time.
@engineermerasmus2810Ай бұрын
Air RB above 10.7 is dead to me, and not just because of ARH, you still have the Kfir with 36 countermeasures facing The F-4S spam and Mig29s
@cmblazemuza7335Ай бұрын
No TY, I’ve payed for AV8b mods then grinded the f15 mrpppr X I don’t know. Took it for 3 games and went back to my AV8B
@alxxander7506Ай бұрын
Essentially its playing tens of games for scraps to get your plane playable.
@axolsrroАй бұрын
I finished the grind on the su 27 sm and half an hour later the stock amrams were added
@LarySeeAircraftАй бұрын
Yeah I have been trying to grind the JAS39C with the JAS39A and it such a struggle, I’m not dieing I’m just barely getting kills now due to engagements happening at long range of 10km+
@krisxx9732Ай бұрын
Fox3 be like: nuh uh yeah aint grinding with this one 🗣️🗣️🗣️🙌🏽🧏🏽♂️
@MatthewTheCountАй бұрын
a tactic i use it being able to get off the runway land at the second base in front so ur behind all the spam rams and just kinda halfterburner so everyone wastes the amramms the big ass snowball forms and than u can go in with ir or go to base as long as ur good i would stay like 5ish miles away from tm behind at least like 8km i think thats what i did to grind the f16am the c all the f15s and the su27sm and yeah rn best strat i came up with edit: if u wanna play it safe air ai is honestly not that bad for rp so u can gun some down ir some and than rtb or if the game is gonna end dont slack out on ground ai and air ai
@ViperPilot16Ай бұрын
I did my stock grind for the Av8B, now im suffering in the 16C, then the 15C.
@finnm.2582Ай бұрын
My biggest rant with the current update is the Tomcat (especially the F-14A), which is way too strong. You get downtiered pretty much every single game and you get missiles that don’t even trigger a lot of RWRs of planes you see (I‘m looking at you Phantoms, Mirage F-1 Family, MiG-23). Yes, I know, Skill Issue but hear me out: I‘m a Tomcat Driver myself. Sure it is fun to kill noobs in premium jets (at least for a while) and 4 kills for 6 Phoenixes are not uncommon but is it also fun for them or for me in the long run ? Probably not. Sure, they can be dodged, but for that you have to be able to see them first which many people don’t and even when you dodge them by multipathing you are still most likely gonna die thanks to that massive Warhead. Have you tried to grind with a 12.0 premium after the BR decompression ? It‘s absolutely not fun right now.
@frog-zxАй бұрын
the netz is an absolute nightmare to play now they should just give it AIM-7Fs at least I know it was never the best but the only reason for it not having radar missiles is why not
@Idk-cz9msАй бұрын
I unlocked su27sm f15c and mig29 smt and I don’t plan on spading a single one until stock fox 3s
@thejc20Ай бұрын
I cant do it anymore I get matched in a Stock Mig 23 MLA against F16's like wtf should I do
@lasse4416Ай бұрын
Personally didnt find it problem at all, took like 1-2 days to spaded. Ofc we could remove the whole system and have all planes come out completed instantly, heck why not give all planes instantly as well since people always complain about the grind. Imo grind IS the game, harder something is to achieve the happier i am when i finally unlock new goal.
@nmw_05Ай бұрын
Wouldn’t it work if they had separate battle ratings from stock and spaded jets so the stock grind is more bearable
@DISRUPT_WTАй бұрын
I had 80% WR and 3-1 kd with both the su27 and gripen. F15c I am struggling to keep it close to 1-1 stock grinding. Would be better if BR adjusted based on loadout.
@dreccasawa9975Ай бұрын
The changes on BR are welcome, but they're not well focused at all. Top tier remains literally the same, the BR difference between Fox-3 carriers and non-fox-3-carriers remains unchanged. Would be fun if the new aircraft with the new missiles could only face each other.. even with the R-27ER being so powerful, having inly Fox-1s and Fox-2s was more fun.
@blessthismessssАй бұрын
try stock grinding the French F-16AM at top tier with no hmd mode for its radar. along with the usual tier 4 AMRAAM mods its actually suffering
@user-jy6cn3jy8gАй бұрын
I don’t have prem account and stock grinded 2 F-15’s (C and JM, that wasn’t that hard since their second modification is 7M’s) and the Su-27SM and even though that was painful (Su grind for instance was just the worst thing ever cause it gets its first radar missiles right before 77’s so it took forever to grind 100k+ RP to get R-27’s and it didn’t even worth it cause even with all mods this plane is nearly useless and can compete only with F-4’s (at closer ranges), other Su-27’s and with “not-the-smartest” players) I still think that 60m MP was the best change/addition since first jets were added and had to be implemented a long time ago and I personally would love to see 20m or less MP but it won’t happen cause it requires bigger maps with less players (gjn’s servers can’t handle these changes, at least rn)
@kajmak64bit76Ай бұрын
This video aged like milk instantly They literally just added stock SARH / ARH ( Fox-1 / Fox-3 ) missiles
@SeekerHeadАй бұрын
I addressed this in the video 👍
@M1A2C.Ай бұрын
Honestly people will definitely disagree with me but i find current 13.0 stock grinds pretty easy, both the F-15C and JAS39C get AIM-9Ms stock and an HMD which make the grind a cakewalk to me. in the F-15C i didn't drop a single bomb and had a positive K/D the entire time while stock grinding. I didn't even get chaff until after the AIM-120s
@amari2509Ай бұрын
yeah cause ur playing 2 of the best planes in the game
@Benny-br5xkАй бұрын
Gaijin as a company should all be locked in a basement and made to play WT for a few months straight so that they can understand how absolutely terrible their game has become.
@davidhume6275Ай бұрын
You are totally correct with this. Its these the same people will say its a skill issue and get good. Its the same for F14 players who are now the biggest rats in the game. It is totally the worst gameplay I have played in any game. If any other game was this obnoxious I would stop playing like COD with its EOMM, Engagement Optimised Match Making. I stopped because there were other variants, which you cannot say about this game. We have all given soooo much to this game and they continually do this to us. Imagine they played it themselves? Imagine they went through any of what we have instead of just milking us like cows who drop cash... Im sick of playing a business model
@cofro3284Ай бұрын
Hey Seek, is there any chance you can go back and revisit the J7D now that it's staying at 11.0 while everything around it went up. I think it might be one of the best rank VII premiums now!
@jetnavigatorАй бұрын
How's it going to work with jets like the GR.7, which has no radar missiles being moved up to face those that do?
@_S1mbaАй бұрын
I got the 120's on the 15c msip before getting chaff ya im crazy ya I tend to stock grind that way, i just notch ALOT
@Cheesycat0Ай бұрын
Arcade can make the stock grind a bit easier. Especially since now everything's gets 2 decent ir/fox 3s. Just wait out the first wave of aim120 spam then farm out the rest of the jets
@thatoneguy1741Ай бұрын
I’ll pass
@legend2460Ай бұрын
Oh I’m getting me that decal next update
@o-mauler-o3021Ай бұрын
Fortunately rank 8 jets will be getting stock radar missiles some time this week (accompanying the BR decompression), so it's not all bad. I certainly won't be stock grinding the F-15J(M) until that update rolls around.
@HamnetsWorldАй бұрын
Real issue is 16 v 16 when it should be like 6v6 or less
@MrSukaBlyatАй бұрын
Su-27SM has any radar missiles on 4th modification rank, even R-27R, which is worser than AIM-7F/M... At 13.0 "Russian bias", ofc
@vavord5181Ай бұрын
💯% on point. If there's no russian bias, then what this IS?!
@FreeFragUKАй бұрын
The game would certainly benefit from a number of re-evaluations. Personally I don't think players should lose money from a match unless they've committed friendly fire but in the same breath with the way some missiles work I think it should be the default to forgive a tk and require a button press to punish. Further to the above I think progress needs looking at and the game would greatly benefit from splitting WW1 - WW2 and Cold War Era.
@grozagabriel1997Ай бұрын
Multipath is shit it doesnt exist no more i can be 1 m above ground and throw chaff notch still get hit
@doge4818Ай бұрын
You should just get chaf/all weapons right off the back in high tier... just make the jest cost more w more rp
@saintgordon338Ай бұрын
Fox 3 was a bad idea. everyone with a bit expiriance knew that. it makes the game passive. you have to be defencive. and if u comit and youre too close youre dead becahuse you cant evade fast enough.
@MrBacon-ps7joАй бұрын
2 poorly timed videos in a row is so incredibly unlucky
@SeekerHeadАй бұрын
I knew the change was coming, I addressed it in the video
@batlax18Ай бұрын
We love your video being almost completely outdated one day after you upload it 😇😇 still need stock chaff but at least it’s better now
@SeekerHeadАй бұрын
I addressed this about 1:40 into the video.
@batlax18Ай бұрын
@@SeekerHead and this is why you wait until you have time to watch the video to comment on it
@batlax18Ай бұрын
Lmao you even said that people would have commented it 🤣🤣
@vernux5299Ай бұрын
Grinded the Israeli F15 out from stock to unlock aim 120's and my god... there was just no fun found. I have 2 more top tier planes waiting for the update to drop as there is aint no way im doing it again.
@albino4160Ай бұрын
Ranked 5vs5 that would make the game great
@connor22abrams4Ай бұрын
F-15A stock with only 2 9Ls made me quit playing top tier air.
@aceofthunder9868Ай бұрын
Stock grinding the su27sm rn hehe
@darthmaul8912Ай бұрын
Where can I read that changes? I didn't see that on the forum. Can anyone please link that?
@SkoodellyАй бұрын
I think the game would be much healthier if modifications just werent a thing but gaijin needs their shekels
@somerandomguy1475Ай бұрын
What about the lower br f16 that have stock aim9ps
@zahnatomАй бұрын
pretty sure the 16C gets 9Ms stock
@goldfishPACIFIERАй бұрын
6:40 exactly 🤣
@mohammadsab4478Ай бұрын
Windows activated 🎉
@ev0hАй бұрын
Maybe I missed u saying it, but don't forget stock doesn't get chaff either....
@davidhume6275Ай бұрын
Truest title ever ... then you get ripped for being negative K/D lmao... its a joke!
@CorporalApolloАй бұрын
We're about to get Fox 1's and Fox 3's stock any day now. Chaff is the literal first modification you get, only around 8k RP at top-tier. Tree heights was mostly fixed, and devs are still actively working on it. We're getting tons of BR decompression specifically at top-tier. What's even the point of this video now after these changes were announced lol.
@ferrous3262Ай бұрын
you dropped youre crown king 🧠
@Plensrcooldc-10Ай бұрын
What is a stock grind?
@tendymusic9095Ай бұрын
Call me gay or lazy but I just bought my way to the AIM-120 I’ll stock grind anything below 11.0 but above 11.0 it’s just painful if u don’t have the better stuff at top tier
@VtheWizardАй бұрын
Thankfully top tier jets get better stock loadouts soon😅
@ev17danАй бұрын
The AV8B plus stock gring is worse, you are sub sonic
@Dimlegend14Ай бұрын
When is the free fox-3 update dropping again?
@Spectre4490Ай бұрын
They sad next week, i think this is this week
@Dimlegend14Ай бұрын
@@Spectre4490 thanks
@Blueesteel_Ай бұрын
Use different tactics … embrace the suck lol
@Elbereth_TVАй бұрын
Honestly, (this is with premium, who on earth at top tier doesnt have it) stock grind isnt terrible, on average for the 11.7-13.0 jets stock has been extremely easy, 1-2 games for you extra missiles, another 2-3 games for boosters, and tadaa, your jet is at like 90% performance and you're chilling.
@NotOlzenАй бұрын
So you are not getting chaff, just missiles in a world where multipathing is a gamble almost everywhere, except in very few spots like open water. In 1-2 games? riiight. The SU-27SM only get fox 1 and fox 3 at rank 4 mods. Which means you are stuck with IR only for alot of fucking games, its awful. I dont know what top tier fighter you play that get its good missiles at rank 1 or 2, but it aint any of the ones i played.
@alexturnbackthearmy1907Ай бұрын
@@NotOlzen And then there is Mig29 9-12...which gets R-60`s until you spade it halfway trough, and get yourself R-27R1. Which is not exactly useful nowadays.
@jacknickolstine3355Ай бұрын
Stop. it's not that bad. Just get caff first. Got the 120s with the f16c on unlock in a half day.
@rstebnickiАй бұрын
Guys stop complaining, every one got this jets spaded it was always this way. Want speed it up, buy GE.