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Paul, great effort, one thing EVERYBODY is forgetting,,,, you own that car, it is your car to live with. When the media tests a car, they hammer the living crap out of the unit and hand back all the bits and pieces back to the manufacturer to put back together. I think a better test and way easier on the drivetrain would be a rolling start and pull through all the gears. That is more "consumer-centric" as that would help determine what the car would be like entering a freeway on ramp that is short and has a semi bearing down at you doing 75MPH!!!!

This video convinced me from going from a mk7.5 to a mk8 the power difference in insane! 300 crank 260 whp that’s insane for a stock GTI these mk8 are going to be killing the steeets

driver mod!!! LOL Also Thats pretty impressive HP!!!

That wheel hop was insane

I applaud you for owning your mistakes learning from them and not make excuses.

I like the videos before watching them…. I swear they are worth it every time! I’m not disappointed one bit! You’ll get better at launching! I went at it with my Wife’s Stg. 1 Tiguan and didn’t catch up till 3rd lol but thank you guys for the content!!

@3:30 the reason you see more torque overshoot in 4th is because the ecm is managing the overshoot in a time-dependent manner and you're plotting over RPM. Take a look at the samples - the overshoot in either gear takes roughly the same number of samples to correct (I'm assuming the dynojet samples at a constant frequency no matter the gear). Also, the turbo accelerates in fewer rpm when in 4th, so the absolute torque is a little higher.

Very cool video Paul, appreciate that you are keeping it real! Curious to see the next episodes on the journey towards a 13s car (or 12s). :-)

Don't stop working on this bad boy, and your driving ;). So excited to see what happens next!

Should do a head to head rolling race between the mk8 and the mk7

Cant wait for my MK8 to arrive! Seeing these videos makes the wait so much longer!

so nice to see charles the humble mechanic and paul from shop dap to hang out.

I second the driver mod! I am excited to see what else you do with this 😁

Being a GTI man I enjoy learning by your videos.

I must say that short shifter is putting in work. Good job paul, you will only improve from here.

Wow. I'm pulling low 15 in my mk1. Not too shabby for a old car. Mk8 is growing on me but I'm not there yet. Very nice video can't wait for the following with upgrade. 👍

Way to go Paul, I had a 99 Passat, 1.8 t modified to the max before short-block replacement, 350 hp wheel hp, went to the track and couldn't get into the low 13's, couldn't hook up the power🤙🤙🤙

I learned long ago that the media/magazines beat the absolute piss out of press cars and push them to the limits for the best times, something that we normal people are just likely not going to do.

I love these DAP videos! Hilarious

Love the channel man!!

that wheel hop is brutal

"Granny shifting, not double clutching like you should"

Good stuff; keep the mk8 footy coming 🤌

U guys did fairly good,real world drivers and real world results,but def practice before u modify and see if u get better. Great vid

Ran a 14.8 in my stock mk6 GTI 6mt, was a good challenge. Used to hold it at 3k rpm, have the clutch just barely engaged and handbrake pulled, would drop the handbrake and clutch and let the wheels slip through 1st and usually would hook in 2nd. It was kinda spinning is winning because as soon as you run out of front suspension extension that’s when it spins the tyres. Would recommend finding a quiet street and practicing the launch routine for a manual GTI just to get the action down and in muscle memory if you catch my drift.

9:35 - But Paul - you are the media :D

Excellent video. It is not easy to launch a standard fwd GTI. Just enjoy it on track days, it will be a lot better than the drag strip

That RX-7 is gorgeous! Oh, and your GTI is nice too...

Did you have fun?That is more important than great numbers.

I can't stand the aesthetics of the MK8 (inside & out). But I'm hyped to see how well this gen takes on power mods. I have a feeling MK8 owners will be able to break 400whp on the MK8R turbo on pump. Something that needed ethanol for the MK7's IS38. Can't wait to see more content.

Won't lie expected more out of this. (Sounds like you did too) On one of the vids almost looked like traction control was still engaged. With that MPH would think it would be closer to at least 14.4

Probably the first north american mk8 clutch replacment/upgrade coming pretty soon to.

I have never been this slow down a drag strip before, hope it was fun.

i feel like the older cars do that too. my mk6 r pulls harder from fourth gear than third. Also that quarter mile is disgusting. Probably need to use vagcom to vfully disable traction contol. that track prep was crazy

Question! At night, how do these headlights compare to the previous mk7.5 LEDS?

shocking shifts from you there paul lol

Thnks. A good one! Go on :-)

loved the vid...laughed my ass off too!

I'd suggest going out on the street and doing some practice launches with the traction control off and familiarizing with where the sweet spot is in the rpms to get a decent launch. You'll need to slip the clutch and get the car to start moving rolling, then pop the clutch as you get off the line (this will get the car to jump forward, rather than spin off of the line). Admittedly, I currently have a DSG and it is a lot simpler. However, I previously ran a MK3 VR6 and hit a 14.6 at 95 mph in the 1/4 with a 2.3 60' on street tires on a 98 degree Fahrenheit day in the middle of August in N.C.

Love your videos😁😁😁🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

How many miles are on it at the time of launching? You probably also got slower times with how bad the stock clutches have been in the past. My MK7.5 R had a hard time after a few pulls and I feel it get more spongy/have softer engagement for sure after a few pulls. I’m not ballsy enough to launch my car until I get my new clutch in and go through the proper break in procedure. I bet once you take out the clutch bleeder block restricter, braided steel clutch line, and practicing where the car likes to launch, you will be able to match or beat the projected times. Keep up the awesome work Paul! I love your videos! They have helped me a lot when it comes to modding my cars and just having good laughs. I super appreciate everything you do!

One ”driver” mod could be to adjust the seat properly. I think it would be easier for you to control the car in a more upright position. Isn’t there a launch mode also in the manual car?

Gti boys know this beef ain’t over lol!

Hell yeah.

Granny shifting, not double-clutchin' like you should! HAHA, j/k Paul. 14 seconds should have been expected and the intercooler is likely the limiting factor in back to back runs.

Soooo...I wonder if the legendary soft short-lived stock Sachs clutch will rear its ugly head sooner than later with those hideous launches! 🤣 Good luck with your MK8 and ensuing mods. As the owner of a '17 modestly modded MK7 Unitronic stage-1+/DKM stage-2 clutch I will be interested with all things going on your MK8! Keep'er between the lines!

Love it! 😂

It looks a lot harder to launch a manual car on that sticky track. Or easier to tear the car up trying. :)

The MK8 looks and sounds great, I have a DSG MK6 and I can't wait till I can afford one of these :)

Paul. You need to tint those windows so people don’t see who’s driving after such awful times 🤣🤣. Just kidding my friend …thanks for the video! I’m know what not to buy now.

When Charles gets his I would like to see you to run together to have a good comparison from the GTI to the Golf R. I currently have an 07 GTI whole bunch of goodies and still a daily but I do track the car occasionally. I would not mind being the driver mod LOL

Did you find the menu to toggle the sub-14 second mode?

I wonder if that pedal dance you just did for the Dyno does anything to the engine tune 👀

Really curious on what "stage 2" will do with these cars. My mk7 tsi hit a 14.2 at 104mph. Before grenading the final drive due to wheel hop 🙃🙃🙃

Quoting what I heard on a NFL game directed towards the referees: "After further review: YOU SUCK!" 😂 Kidding aside, the car seems to have the traction control on. That would prevent any decent launch. I really like this series. Keep it up!

What was the octane for the dyno run?

That’s impressive 1/4 mile times

This is where you wish you had a DSG 😂

You are the man Paul. My last FWD manual was a 2012 Ford Focus ST, stage 1. I sworn to myself that it would be my last FWD performance car. Now Rwd or Awd only. So for you to attempt this is proof that you are a hero!!!

I wonder if starting in second would be faster. Is it possible to add a real helical front diff, and old facial parking break to the new gti?

You sir!!! are a pioneer as far as I'm concerned 💪😎

It should be noted that motor trend never tests on prepped surfaces. I think the sticky track made it harder for you to get a clean 60 ft

Are you going to do a “stage 1 tune” with out engine mods?

You know your in the right place when they is an old man with his arms behind his back overseeing the shenanigans

It's all that extra hp and trq you found on the dino that changed 1/4 times. 😏😆

Is that short shifter working well?

I hope to see this car run 9s eventually while still being able to drive across country or run a track day.

Do you need a new clutch now? Or are they better than the mk7 ?

Which tires are yours outfitted with? My mk8 came with Pirelli P Zeroes.

You guys know if they added any port injectors to decrease the carbon build up?

Paul’s out there granny shifting, not double clutching when he should.

It definitely looked like the traction control was being a problem as well. Doesnt look completely off

Could the Club Sport muffler make that difference?

Hey! Do you guys have a subwoofer retrofit for the ones with deleted HK system? You can use mine as a beta I'm in the northern Virginia area too.

Its 100 percent the obtrusive traction control, sandbagging the numbers. Once its coded out with obd11 or vagcom, the Mk8 will be hitting high 13's stock all day.

What fuel octane were you running on the Dyno?

My first run was 15.0 in my 7.5 ( stage 3 clutch, catback, intake and some firehawks, no tune) and as the prep wore off i became slower. 15.5 being my worst.

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How do you take off an A4-B7 manual break button? Wanna instal a drift button, any solutions

Cmon Paul. You had one job 😂

Tommorrow on FB market place, very gently ran 100 mile VW peanut hatchback. I know what i have no low balls

While the ET wasn't that bad actually, your trap speed before heat soak confirms the car makes almost 300 crank HP. This car is impressive

What fuel were you using for the dyno runs?

The more I see MK8 the more it grows on me. Great video 👌🏼

I had a 95 Integra that ran 15 flat in the quarter. Own a VW n now and you're making me second guess it

I had a 2012 GTI Base 2 door DSG that with Pzero tires at sea level in florida ran a 14.2 Happened years ago but bizarre how I even see GTIs with tunes that haven't been able to get that time. It trapped in the lower 90s obviously can't remember all the details.

Is the Mk8 Gti turbo little bigger than the mk7 gti ? Or same size ?

It sounded like you were trying to race on a giant glue trap.

250 from wheels.. damn! Thats like 270 from the crank :o

From system and control theory that spike is what refered to as an overshoot in the step response. It's usually undesirable when tuning the models controller. It's likely that the models controller was tuned in 3rd gear and not 4th. That why the step response are a better. But I'm guessing that the models use dynamic coefficients. So it would be interesting to see if the car continues to do this after you're driven it for a while.

When will the MK8 GOlf R come?

Dogbone, tranny and engine mounts needed fo sho! Look forward to your choice of IC.

Well for what it's worth, my 2017 6 speed manual with a unitronic stage 1+ ran a 14.7 / 101 for a couple of runs but only because I was spinning like crazy (no LSD). My best run was when I bogged it off the line where it ran a 14.1 / 103. That Mk 8 should be high 13s easy.

Well if you ever consider hiring on a seasoned FWD driver I'd be happy to oblige. 😆😎

Look like Paul needs a DSG to get a good run :-) Forget 1/4 mile runs and go enjoy it on a twisty mountain road!!

The track looks a bit wet, plus those low profile wheels don't help. Nice dyno numbers tho.

I got 13.3s @ 173km/h with stock mk8 gti clubsport on unprepped track

What engine is in the mk8? 4thGen TSI? k03 or k04?

ever consider launch practice?