Thanks for watching everyone! Appreciate your enthusiasm on this topic and it shows in the number of comments coming in already! Just a quick important note: we want to make sure everyone is aware that many club manufacturers do in fact offer 'aftermarket' shafts as stock (no upcharge) options in their clubs. Not all stock shafts offered are a "made for" version for that manufacturer. What we wanted to communicate with this video is that golfers should look at all shafts as options for their game, and to assess whether a shaft improves their performance rather than being concerned with whether it's a stock or aftermarket shaft.

I love golf shaft discussions. This channel has the potential to overtake all other KZfaq Golf channels. Keep it up guys...

crazy going back and seeing Matt's swing go past parallel. love the channel guys!

Love the videos, and I appreciate the information and wisdom that gets shared. Shaft selection for us double digit handicappers can ruin your game if you make a bad choice, and manufacturers of course are always plugging their product as the '5 mph more, 5 yards more, 5 strokes less' solution to your problem. The whole 'made for' versus 'real deal' shaft formulation issue can indeed confuse and frustrate consumers. I'd like to see you take someone without 120+ mph swing speed (lol) and re-fit their current bag to prove definitively how a shaft fitting can improve performance. Stick to a budget say of $500 for a set of iron shafts, and show us how a stock TM, Callaway, or Cobra iron set can be improved upon if someone wants to spend the time to work with you. Yes, watching Matt consistently launch those majestic 300+ yard bombs is satisfying (if not ultimately depressing) for most of us (lol) I think showing the difference you can make to a hackers game might better illustrate your point and skills. Keep those vids coming!

The combination of player and robot testing would make your channel unique, and the most informative in regard of ball testing... I am happy that you are willing to take the time and effort to provide golfer with as much information as possible, to help improving the experience with the game golf.

Great stuff again guys. I think it would be interesting to see the differences in playing conditions within the same family of shafts, such as testing the Tensei White vs. Orange vs. Blue vs. Red, or the HZRDUS T1100 vs. Black vs. Yellow vs. Red

This answered my dilemma to the point. I knew I needed to be fitted for an aftermarket. Awesome work guys!!!!

When I was a pro, I found more resin or glue in stock shafts, versus the weave or material in aftermarket shafts.

So many golfers think after market shafts are so much better. As you clearly state if the shaft works it works no matter what type or spec. Great video again guys.

The robot testing is insane news. You guys already offer the most in depth knowledge of shafts etc on youtube, that would be an awesome addition

Matt, as a new follower and after watching so many newer vids, I love seeing the differences in your swing from this video to your newer ones.

TXG, thank you for touching on this subject. I listen to to many "pro's" and fitters say shaft does not matter. Well it does to me very much. I can't tell you how much money i have spent trying different shafts just because they are not available for testing in the places i shop. Makes you want to become a Canadian... not, sorry Ian lol. Texan for Life. I have a 917 D3 with a Speeder 757 evo II, also a 74 pro, and finally the one i game in it a Rip Phenom. Rip phenom performs about 25 yards farther and tighter than the other two. I also have the New M3. The stock shafts gave me no distance at all and much spin. Went with the tensie white pro in 70g and WOW!!! your right this driver drops my spin and give me my best numbers. FYI spin is my cryptonite. If i can suggest a shaft to review and this is strickly personal. the new Graphite Design AD IZ. Curious about this one and would love to see it in Matt's hands. Love your work guys God bless

Almost at 10K subs. This is where things will start to grow exponentially. Well done boys.

Giving this a second watch, this is the video that popped my TXG cherry!

As you said we must go in with open mind. I ended up with 3 Callaway wedges, after testing and fitting, despite (normally) disliking their clubs (look and performance, for me). They are performing very well for me, in real life, on the course. Have forgotten about wanting them to be SM7s or Cleveland or Mizuno. The fitting was serious fun, as well as being informative and useful.

I’d like to see a similar shaft test with a mid-handicap player. Most of us don’t have Matt’s swing.

Love to see the Accra FX series comparo. 100 v 200 v 300 to see the different flights and launches they offer with the same stiffness/flex. Within same family of shafts.Think it would be a very interesting video to show people. T Love the videos guys keep it up from Australia.

I could spend all day watching your videos Top notch stuff guys Thank you for the amazing content

Great videos, the best place on KZfaq to learn about the fitting process!

Would be cool to test Graphite Design because the OLD DI flagship is still #1 seller and tons of tour guys use...... and every shaft they have they rate 1-5 in Butt, mid, and tip. They don't release that many shafts but generally every other year they rotate between stiffer tip/softer tip. Its interesting though how half their shafts are popular then you get into some laggers like DJ GP GT. Especially DJ which never came close to DI popularity and GT which was a flop after the very popular BB.

My new favorite channel. Great work guys!

very fair! cant wait new video about stiffer stock shaft vs that of softer. your guys are great!

I'm a recent subscriber and have learned a TON of information from you guys. What I've learned will be a great asset in my club fitting endeavors. Keep up the great work, guys.

I like this one and you read my mind Ian about reverse engineering the test good stuff.

Fascinating topic. Thanks for the info. Would you know how different the HZRDUS Smoke stock shaft is on the TaylorMade M5 vs an aftermarket Project X HZRDUS Smoke? How important is frequency matching on a weekend warrior golfer with a handicap around 10-12?

I had been playing the Fujikura Tour Spec 72 in X flex @ 44.5". Swing speed ~ 114mph. Taylormade M4, 9.5deg. I could certainly hit it pretty well, but it was also quite inconsistent. Since I hadn't been fit for a driver in nearly 5 years, I decided to visit the Taylormade fitting center in Mission Viejo. I was blown away at how far off my current shaft was for where my swing is currently. Ultimately ended up in the Graphite Design Tour AD IZ-7x. Better in every category, especially dispersion. Bonus, I don't feel like I have to get after it yet still have gained quite a bit of distance. I encourage everyone to go get fitted! Keep up the great work TXG!

Great video full of useful information. I've wondered why after market shafts can come at a big premium, and this explains it. I was also suspicious of 'made for' shafts and why they mostly didn't appear on the respective manufacturers websites. I was fit for a 2017 M1 12* with the stock Fujikura XLR8 Pro shaft by my local teaching pro and club fitter. While my driving improved it was still inconsistent at times. For the record, he fit me for irons and they are 100% on the money. I'm a 10-12 hcp player. My miss was always right (RH Golfer), and it creeps back now and again during a round, which i feel i can attribute partly towards the inconsistencies in the stock shaft. I can shape my irons & hybrids left or right. I'm in Melbourne Australia, so a visit to you guys is off the cards, however there are 2 highly rated custom fitting companies like TXG which i think i'll get in contact with and see if there is an aftermarket shaft that works better in the M1 head. Either that or I'll treat myself to a new driver head with the right aftermarket shaft. Keep up the great content, love the Podcast too..!!

Great vid. I have known This for a while. I have never enjoyed the feel and performance of stock shafts. I purchase custom shafts and I keep my custom shafts now. I have the Atmos tour spec blue in my old M1 driver and this is an amazing shaft. My stock evenflow in my Titleist hybrid is woeful. Luckily I have a custom aldila shaft that I have kept.

again, great video and content! looking forward to all the insights! maybe test the Kuro Kage line of shaft? with the XT that works so well for you, and all the other options of the silver series &I think theres quite a common stock version?

How does your channel not already have a 100,000 subscribers let alone 10,000?! There’s no comparison between your content versus some of the other fanboys who review golf equipment on KZfaq. Just keep doing what you are doing and the views will come guys. Thanks again.

I'd like to see players with differing swing characteristics being fitted to shafts which compliment their swing. For example...a player with good lag, one who casts and a typical early release/flip player. For example the early release player possible hit the ball high and may think he needs a 'low' launch shaft to find an overall 'mid' flight position. This would be a good fitting session for people to watch.

Awesome as always Guys. Would like to see a video where the player is hitting a variety of creative shots,the numbers produced,and the optimum numbers you require to pull off these shots.

Love what you guys are doing. I’m somewhat of a golf geek and you are putting out great info. Keep it up!

Interesting.....I just watched this video today and noticed how much Matt has reduced the length of his swim over the year, well done! Lots of good info in this episode.

I'm intrigued. How would Matt's gamer shaft perform compared to most suitable "Ping" brand shaft in his G400 Max. I suspect that Ping shafts had higher quality materials than the stock Callaway, Taylormade last time I was club buying.

You guys are the best. Thank you for sharing all of your knowledge to us. Would like to see more discussion for the average golfer. Thanks

Would like to see the Ping Tour shaft (stock shaft, which I have in the LST head in Stiff flex) versus any compatible aftermarket shaft. Great vid

Awesome channel, very informative, skeptical on the availability of this type of fitting in your memberships local areas. Hopeful to find an option to improve my game through proper fitting and equipment.

How about a video of Matt getting fitted with “graphite” iron shafts? Great, informative videos guys!

Wow ! Very interesting. Same shat but we need to see it as two different shats. Coming at your place in 2 days for the full bag package. Can't wait ! I'm so excited ! See you on friday pm 👍

Changed from a rogue stock shaft in my Titleist which felt a little sloppy when I went to hit it hard to a graphite design ad di. The feel is a lot smoother with the GD. Great vid as always guys 👍👍👍

1) I think the same test should be ran again with a 110mph and a 100mph swing. Most shafts have pretty much the same name in the stock vs aftermarket version with a big price gap inbetween so this is an important piece. 2) Maybe after this test, re-run it to see if you can get aftermarket results by just going one flex stiffer in the stock shaft.

A discussion on older after market shafts vs newer after market shafts. For example the Aldila Rip'd NV vs the Aldila NV 2KXV. How much has technology changed over the last few years...

Stock shafts are certainly cheaper than aftermarket versions, which is a good thing for prices as drivers would be north of $1,000 if they put genuine aftermarket shafts in as standard. The other thing about stock shafts is that they suit regular players more than real mccoy tour versions. I've always gone for aftermarket shafts, but that's a throwback to the bad old days when $700 drivers had $10 rubbish stock shafts in them. The modern stock shafts are much better quality than they were 20 years ago.

The term "custom fit" truthfully to me changed five months ago to "trusted fit". The TXG journey is an interesting one to all levels of golfers who enjoy the game, keep up the great work. Where's the Swag! 😉👍

Would love to see a driver fitting ie ping using stock shafts then see you optimise them with aftermarket

I'd like to see Ian do the same test as he loads the club harder than Matt does in transition. I bet the numbers would be quite different especially the spin. That 4gt blue board had a 4" parallel tip instead of the x5ct's normal 2.5. They did it mostly for Titleist to make it easier it install full bore, as the standard 2.5" puts would get very still if fully inserted. It definitely took some guess work out of blind boring and how much to tip. Those tp taylormade shafts went all the way back to the 510 tp range.

Great information as always. Can't wait to see discussions on shaft flex. *Just a little suggestion for shaft testing. It would be even more fantastic if you could have another camera with 240fps or higher facing the person hitting it off, to see the shaft's reaction in slow-motion.

Awesome stuff guys, best on KZfaq!!!

Awesome channel! Keep up the good work!

I think it would be cool to see a shaft test using the same flex but different weights with discussion on the relationship between flex and weight if there even is one. Thanks for the great content!

Love what you guys do. Really enjoy each show and they are getting better. P.S. I would love some new wedges!!

Love the videos guys, keep up the good work. However...as this was not a like for like comparison it would be great to see a fitting where you start with stock options to get as good a fit as possible but then move onto aftermarket options to show how much more can be achieved with the fine tuning capabilities those aftermarket options offer.

112 MPH driver for me. Fitted for Ping G400 with the Tour X 65 shaft vs any upgraded shaft. Was happy because price. Last driver, ended up with a 200 upgrade shaft.

Great video again my only wish is your store was in the UK.

Got fitted the other day and found out that I needed to change from a regular steel shaft to a xstiff graphite. Had a smash factor of 1.5 with new shaft.

Time to upgrade my Shaft!!!!!!!!!! You're Killing me. I would like to see the difference between the HZRDUS Yellow stock vs. Handmade.

As someone who has snapped 2 fairway wood shaft and one driver shaft stock standard kinda feel Weak, flimsy and cheaply made. after your guys tensei orange video I had to get one after that my left miss is still in the fairway compared to the standard Diamana that used to be in my driver which was a snap hook. After watch your guys videos all the stock shaft are currently out of my bag I don’t need the inconsistency in a cheap shaft making me think it’s my swing producing bad shots when it just the club face flip closed. Thank you for the recommendation for the x7 dropped my spin by about 400 on average gain 2 yards of carry.

Great video again ,stock shafts can all play different ,what you play in the fitting bay with a stock shaft may not be what you get when your own driver turns up ,the tolerances are just not as tight .Drivers are expensive and players owe it to themselves to put the right shaft in ,if your serious about the game and practice plenty you want the best shaft for you ,you don't have to be a low handicapper to play a decent shaft .On the other hand if you play on the golf course once every couple of weeks and never go to the range then its probably not so important .

Really enjoy your videos. Keep them coming.

Another great vid keep up the good work 👍👍

It’s awesome to see what Larry has done with with Matt’s swing

I have Aldila Rogue Silver 70 S 110MSI shafts in both my TEE driver and 3wd, they came as a stock option. I called Aldila at their HQ in Cal. and they told me that is the exact same shaft in those woods as I would buy from TXG or any other fitter, no difference. He told me they don't make any "made for versions" for the OEMs of the Rogue shafts. There is a 125MSI version which is the tour version that is only available through fitters I believe he said.

I love this, I would like to see one with the upgraded shafts offered for me....thanks

Really good information. Brilliant as always.

I use Apollo Spectre light steel shafts in my woods and for me they are better than any graphite shafts I have tried and I have tried them all. And the best part is Apollo shafts cost less than $5.00 a piece.

Great video. Definitely have been spoiled by you guys. I have seen a difference in terms of fitting from club fitters at a PGA Superstore vs on a Demo Day. At least for ME, it seems like the reps at these demo days do a better job fitting that a pro.

I got fitted with PXG with evenflow blue handcrafted great shaft ,I got alone of evenflow stock which wasn’t as good ,thanks

Good video. So many weekend golfers know nothing about shafts and I see so many guys playing the wrong spec

These age like fine wines.

Hey guys! Great video on shaft options and the difference between stock standard shaft and an aftermarket shaft (up charge or not). You said about the Srixon iron being great which I would love to hit some day but what about the driver? I know they aren’t the most popular thing in the world but I would love to see what they bring to the table. Keep up the great work!

Great video guys! I've always found it pretty odd that some club and shaft OEMs take a shaft that is nothing like a popular aftermarket shaft but name and paint it the same. Why not just call it something else and avoid the confusion altogether?

You guys should do a series on grips.. and benefits with adding wraps and getting a good size for your hand.. would really like to hear what you think about adding wraps.

Great video lads 👍

I wish you all could get the aftermarket shaft meant for Matts swing, then find an OEM stock shaft thats closest to that and compare those against each other.

I think the HZRDUS handcrafted vs machine made would be a good test as well. Big price difference but the materials should be the same, just one is hand made vs machine made.

Project X shafts have a handcrafted version and a stock version. Only difference is a handcrafted logo towards the top in regards to looks

Best on youtube thanks for the education.

I would love to see a video comparing your shaft fitting process to Mizuno's shaft fitting device and see how similar the results are for each process. Maybe have an individual whose swing you aren't familiar with have a fitting and then use Mizuno's shaft fitting device to compare results of recommendations.

Didn’t think about that. Have a stock shaft in stiff and i have the feeling it does the same like you felt..

I got lucky. Bought an ST190G with an atmos black stiff shaft for 100 quid. It works

I’m a little confused, Atmos red is an aftermarket shaft. The other Atmos is a tour spec, a different model. Both are aftermarket shafts..

Wow Matt’s swing looks so different. His swing now looks tighter and more tour esq.

Great work!

It would be interesting in your next test if you keep the stock shaft in this video and tip it 1 inch. The performance and feel change would be great data.

I would like to see you guys test driver/fairway shafts dialed in to specific carry distances and tight dispersions. My dream driver would consistently carry 260yds with little roll out while maintaining playable left/right dispersion...that I would spend money on..! A++ video gents

Great video! Can you guys do a video on breaking down what shafts fits best for what swing tempos? I know you said shafts are more of tempo finder.. I would like to know what kind of shaft torque, weight, and etc fits best for a slow, mid , and fast tempo swing.

I'd be interested in you guys testing iron shafts vs multi compound shafts. I recently put some Fujikura MCI 100S shafts in my irons and they made a big difference for me. They also do not hurt my wrist if I hit a fat shot as they absorb the vibrations I found.

Love the videos. I'd like to see how bend profile differences affect the performance of wedges

I think you should get an account with Tom Wishon golf. He basically invented the shaft frequency measuring idea. He has some of the best shaft designs I’ve ever played or fitted and the prices are fantastic. Basically all under $40. There is no reason you should be paying $400 for a golf shaft, especially amateurs. I think you could find better performance and save massive amounts of money for your clients if you stocked his shaft line. Definitely worth looking into.

I would love to see shaft choices for different handicaps. High, med, low, scratch. Just to kind of show the improvements if any

Totally agree would like to see a test with average players. Matt's swing speed is so much faster than most of us.

Thought on this video you would get an off the shelve club with a shaft.. Say cobra with a hazard stock "green" which is a t800 hit it then get a small batch after market t1100 "green" hazard, which looks like the exact same. Is that what went on in this video and I missed it? If the after market small batch which looks identical to stock except that little badge is a Lot different that is wrong.

Loving your videos guys, as in all things education is the route to improvement. On the shaft front I would to see a video comparing a Pured/Spine Aligned shaft and a standard fit.

I’ll say this: my miss hits don’t go 330... great video! Another question; I remember Ian discussing hitting mats and their importance regarding allowing the club face to achieve proper depth for strike, which mats do you guys use?

I would like to see the stiffer stock option vs a softer aftermarket shaft

It would be interesting to see the difference between a stock regular shaft and a stock stiff.

How about a Video showing what you guys have in your bags?

please keep the information coming so i can be more educated with products with an unbias opinion..i did not know about you guys until recently and i would prefer to be entertained by you blokes than other forms of media .....more please

Would be great to see you and Matt on the golf course with Matt playing 9 holes talking about equipment and seeing how his new clubs perform. Could watch him play all day long.