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Stockdog Basics: Teaching Recall

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Nicole Rhodes

Nicole Rhodes

6 жыл бұрын

Teaching the recall... this video is more an overview than anything. I feel like I left out a lot of stuff but that's kinda what happens when I try to do something off the cuff unscripted so I'm going to write a more detailed explanation here on this post.
1) Labeling Behavior. Really, in any method of training a dog you are initially just labeling a behavior. What the behavior is and how, when, or why the dog is offering the behavior varies. Sometimes they are behaviors that come natural and other times we are labeling a behavior we create. So in the first clip I show you, this is just capitalizing on a little pup's natural behavior. A baby puppy when you take it away from it's siblings and familiar surroundings will gravitate to the first recognizably safe thing around, which should be you. Walk away and puppy will follow, stop and puppy will stop. You can capitalize on these behaviors and give them labels. Watch for the pup to be running straight to you, when you are sure he is going to you then you say the words. Be careful not to label the wrong behavior! You'd be surprised at how quick these labels become actual commands. If you want more information and a detailed explanation of teaching your pup with these methods Tony McCallum has a DVD that is well worth buying mccallumk9.com/...
2) Treats. These can be a good low stress method of introducing a behavior to a pup. You can use treats to lure a pup into doing something, like laying down, and then you label that behavior as in the previous explanation. Like I say in the video, treats work great as long as the dog values the treat more than whatever other interesting things are around so you will still have to do proofing to insist that the dog listen even under distractions and livestock are very distracting.
3) The Rope. A rope or long line is a handy tool and I use one quite a bit at various stages during a dog's training. Using a rope I can place them where I want them and keep them from getting away. John here actually has a good recall (off of stock) he learned via the puppy labeling method but he thinks the rope is awful so I thought he would be a good example of reinforcing a behavior and showing you some of the avoidance that can happen. It's really hard to see in this video how I am spinning to keep him coming toward the front of me, I also back up to encourage the pup to come forward as for some pups it can be difficult to come straight into handler pressure. It's important when teaching a recall that they come straight to you, a little bit of avoidance with no distractions can turn into a whole lot of avoidance otherwise.
Don't set your pup up in situations where they can avoid or get away from you, there is no sense giving them a recall command if you have no way to enforce it, you are just teaching them the words don't mean anything. I use their name until I'm sure that I'm in a position to where the recall will mean something. I use a rope but some people use a small pen or enclosed space where the pup can't get away. Either way this is about pressure and release, you don't want to just drag the pup to you like reeling in a fish, you have to finagle things so the pup chooses to come to you to release the pressure and then you label that behavior.
4) Down, Distractions, and Corrections. When I teach a recall I will often work on down at the same time. This gives me the chance to place them and then recall them. They also learn about staying put while you're moving around. Fancy here knows what down is but she isn't real good at staying there with distractions, in this case me talking is a big distraction. Livestock is another big distraction and on a dog where they want to ignore or avoid me on stock I will put them on a rope, or work in a small pen, and take away their option to do so. Notice that on her I give verbal and physical corrections for her disobedience. Once a dog understands a concept, then you can correct them for disobeying, you can't correct a dog if they can't understand what they're being corrected for.
It's important to note that the order is: command, verbal correction, physical correction. You want a dog to respond to the command and they need to know they will get an escalating correction if not. They need to know that you will back up your words. Some dogs are softer or more people oriented than others and a verbal correction may suffice, others need more. You'll need to gauge your dog and train accordingly. The correction has to be fair and the dog has to be given a clear way to make the correction stop. If a dog is sluggish to respond you can shorten up the time between corrections even to the point of giving verbal and physical at the same time (in this case a jerk on the rope). But always begin with the staggered order first, you need to make sure the dog understands what you want and this is an important line of communication that you will use in all aspects of training.
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@Eddi369
@Eddi369 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Good tutorial and nice dogs by the way. Thanks for sharing
@herrootsareshowing1534
@herrootsareshowing1534 4 жыл бұрын
This was really helpful with sorting out my working line Terv’s behavior. I’ve been working with a positive reinforcement trainer (hoping to compete in agility) who has great results with many different breeds. My dog’s tendency to run behind me when I recall..well..you’re the first person to point out that it’s avoidance, and you haven’t even seen my dog do it. But taking into consideration her reluctant recall, it makes perfect sense now. We’ve been struggling with recall and down, and I can already see a difference in her after doing this for just a few days. Thanks!
@NicoleRhodesStockdogs
@NicoleRhodesStockdogs 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad it was helpful 😊
@Crackthewhip
@Crackthewhip Жыл бұрын
When working cattle and sheep It's always important to keep your dogs out of your way. Place for them is right behind you on the right or left side. When a dog is taught to come directly to the front of you they are always in the way when you're working cattle and sheep in a pen. Especially when you add a horse to the equation you never want the dog coming up to the front of you or your horse once again it will always get in the way.
@NicoleRhodesStockdogs
@NicoleRhodesStockdogs Жыл бұрын
I’ve never found that to be the case and you’ll find it difficult to teach a proper shed if the dog won’t come directly to you. It’s not like the dog is just going to stand/walk in front of you after you recall it while you go back to working stock lol I’m not sure what you’re imagining here.
@Crackthewhip
@Crackthewhip Жыл бұрын
Hey if it works for you that's great but training a dog is one thing and putting it in a practical working environment where things are not always perfect you never want your dog in front of your horse you never want your dog in front of your walking Zone you never want your dog in front of you you always want your dog sitting out from beside you or behind you you always want your dog sit out from beside the horse or behind your horse so training dogs is one thing working cattle and sheep and a practical environment it's totally different but hey that's what's working for you
@NicoleRhodesStockdogs
@NicoleRhodesStockdogs Жыл бұрын
@@Crackthewhip I’ve done lots of practical work with dogs.
@TheHyde8875
@TheHyde8875 7 ай бұрын
Just my two cents here, but youre both right. I train mine to come in straight to me, but then go to my side. I'll slap which leg i want them to go to if i know im going to want them to go left or right first.
@justcharlie6038
@justcharlie6038 6 жыл бұрын
great video 😊😊
@WacoJackofallTrades
@WacoJackofallTrades 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah Great. Gives me an idea what I should expect from my young one 3 months. old. Thanks
@trumplostlol3007
@trumplostlol3007 3 жыл бұрын
My newly adopted 2 year old Aussie loves it when I put a prong collar on her. LOL I conditioned her to relate the prong collar with going out to possibly play with her favorite throwing game. LOL LOL She still pulls hard with her prong collar on when she see a bicycle passing by, but she does not seem to bite the leash any more.
@sequoyah5996
@sequoyah5996 4 жыл бұрын
So your recall could be "That'll do" or "Here" any of that sort, correct? Also your down and recall was super helpful! I've always wondered how you teach them to stay put once you down them.
@NicoleRhodesStockdogs
@NicoleRhodesStockdogs 4 жыл бұрын
Horse Lover I use “that’ll do” because I use “here” for a command to come in towards me but don’t quit working, like for sorting and shedding. I don’t use “come” because I use “come by” for my left flank.
@sequoyah5996
@sequoyah5996 4 жыл бұрын
@@NicoleRhodesStockdogs Gotcha! Thank you!
@laciepowell9529
@laciepowell9529 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! I see you move your foot out to keep them away from you. Is that for personal boundaries? Do you not use names for recall? I am so new to this but I want to be able to train start to finish.
@laciepowell9529
@laciepowell9529 2 жыл бұрын
I see now. My fault. But the moving the foot out when he was running at the begining.
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