Super Simple Zero Adjustment Profitable setup by Kundan |

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Күн бұрын

"Simple Strategy Works if mixed with Discipline of following Rules" is the mantra of Kundan, Full Time trader who has shared one of his profitable yet simple strategy with us and backtested it for last couple of months.
Backtested on Stockmock Simulator: www.stockmock....

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@rajputjps Ай бұрын

Another Gem by StockMock., after Calendar spread adjustment by vineet sir! Kudos Nitish bhai👍..Very well explained and articulated by Kundan!

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

Thanks for your kind words Brother 🙏

@pranaymahajan172 Ай бұрын

Sir can you please share the Link for Callender spread video

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

@@pranaymahajan172 Simply search Samco Kundan, you'll get it

@vishalamle8330 Ай бұрын

Just 2 things noticed if someone wants to try this strategy… For 1st few trades.. est margin 2.6L Last 2 trades.. it was 5L So, capital requirements are extremely volatile… not possible for a normal retail trader with fixed capital to deploy this… Also, that extra CE leg for far OTM to manage skew will not always be possible to buy/exit due to liquidity issues… Kundan is extremely disciplined… thanks for detailed explanation.

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

Hey Vishal Yes deployed margin will fluctuate depends on VIX and volatility but I recommend not to do positional option selling who have less than 10L capital And that extra CE Leg you have to buy just 1 lot, trust me if you're choosing any 100 strikes in Nifty (biweekly), liquidity isn't going to be an issue You can easily buy & sell And do implement it on paper or forward test for few days and let me know your queries after that

@vishalamle8330 Ай бұрын

@@thetradingscholarr Thanks a lot for all the clarification… will definitely do back and forward test for different VIX and periods…

@AashviNamdev Ай бұрын

Abey bhai February lot size50 tha isliye 5lakh margin hai

@vishalamle8330 Ай бұрын

@@AashviNamdev thanks bhai 🙏… lot size change bhul gaya tha me.

@jsjinder2186 17 күн бұрын

@@thetradingscholarr what is approx ROI ON deployed capital

@kevalkumar9694 Ай бұрын

One of the best GEM on youtube, thanks for such valuable and wonderful episode by Kundan Bhai and Nitish bhai. Pls make a follow up video for quarries and doubts. One complaint with Nitish bhai is 'high interval between 2 videos' please make videos frequently. We really missing such valuable content.

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for your kind words Keval Kumar ji Means a lot🙏🥰

@win289 Ай бұрын

Please keep the speaker window little bigger else looks like listening to ppt Thanks for the video

@Kksubba Ай бұрын

This is nice strategy with very less MTM which helps to keep the psychology intact….. but i have few questions:- 1) Capital required is close to 2.6 lakh but how much capital is required to be kept for margin requirement so broker do not close our trade. 2) What if there is huge IV spike due to big gap down…because the t+0 line will move down. 3) You need to have other strategy along with it other wise it is very difficult to get 30% return in a year. What is its accuracy??? Because even if you are profitable 50% of the time and you trade 52 weeks in a year you will make 13% only in a year…

@prashanthireddy9381 Ай бұрын

yes need bacttested data

@Kindzora Ай бұрын

Bilkul sahi baat .. pehli baat 50% time to 1:1 nhi milta, agar milta bhi hai to 50% to Stop loss hit hota hai...

@sapnedekho Ай бұрын

Thankyou Nitish and Kundan. Would love to see Kundan soon with next strategy.❤

@nopanyk Ай бұрын

Attention to details is brilliant … discussion on skew and theta to Vega is insightful. Not often talked about

@kuljindersingh7939 Ай бұрын

Seems to be good expiry day strategy when you define support and resistance and play in between that area with swings are in control great strategy

@thetradingscholarr 29 күн бұрын

Yes sir, It's a peaceful option selling

@arul8750 Ай бұрын

thankyou sir sir waiting for butterfly from tandon sir part 3 stockmock is awesome value for me

@samirpatel9082 Ай бұрын

Very nice.. he digested the market

@samradalpha 4 күн бұрын

Please do more simple setups!

@dhirajkhanna-thebeardedguy Ай бұрын

This is fantastic! I love the adherence to the rules that Kundan follows. Great discipline and trading psychology on display here. Thanks Nitish for doing this. Also like you mentioned, would be great to have the RR feature on StockMock.

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

Thank you so much for your kind words brother Means a lot to me Grateful 🙏❣️

@arunbohora1047 Ай бұрын

sirji one correction in trade set up buy 10 lots of put 100 points away from sold leg instread of buy 10 lots of put 300-350 points away from sold ledg(at hedge side)

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

Yes that's a type mistake, thanks for correction 🙏

@sangamamk3070 Ай бұрын

Very deep understanding 🎉

@thetradingscholarr 29 күн бұрын

Thank you sangam ji

@MuraliY2K Ай бұрын

Nice Strategy , Thanks Kundan and Nitish ❤❤❤

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

Thank you Murali ji, your appreciation means a lot

@sunilpagarwal Ай бұрын

Kundanji you are honest to admit that you took biweekely trades through Vivek Bajaj ka show. Good,

@sripadasanga6244 Ай бұрын

Thank you both for the sharing the setup. My question - if the setup runs until Wednesday and by 3 pm is near to edge of selling leg, what should be the approach ? Cos it may be in 0.5% profit but is near to selling leg and next day a gap up can wipe the profit and give 0.5% to 3% loss. Should we strictly follow the rule and take the loss? Or can a stop loss be engaged to resist the loss to 0.5% on gap up / down scenario?

@altafrehmatwala5531 Ай бұрын

Please make a video with Kundan on BATMAN Strategy and it's Adjustments.

@thetradingscholarr 29 күн бұрын

I've already shot with Rohit Katwal yesterday, Monthly Batman Strategy will be live on 2nd august

@eAuctionZ. Ай бұрын

just fantastic

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

Thank you so much sir

@adiyabhandari4665 Ай бұрын

Excellent; pl make 2nd part for Pair trading or Ratio

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

You can check my Samco latest podcast there I've shared my Ladder strategy

@1681chandan Ай бұрын

Very nice strategy.....thanks for this podcast

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

Thanks Chandan Ji

@anupagarwal5432 Ай бұрын

For biweekly there is always difference price difference in buyer and seller price which never reflects in stock mock because stock mock takes OHLC data of one minute while backtesting.... Trust when MTM is 0.5 % while exiting it will be actually 1 % or more

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

If you trade 100 strikes and that too in Nifty, I don't think there is any major slippage upto 2 CR, so you shouldn't be worry about slippage Trust me, you can execute your order smoothly

@coolmonkey5269 Ай бұрын

@@thetradingscholarr sir which is best strategy. im confuse

@zeromeans1 Ай бұрын

Dear sir, thanks for motivation. But I challenge one thing that every week nifty moves 300 away, in this case evey time you have to take exit, since it will touch your breakeven , once you check sir, i am doing iron codor but with adjustment since three years

@sanjayshah7636 Ай бұрын

Sabse best video ❤

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

Thank you so Sanjay Shah ji 🙏❣️

@samradalpha Күн бұрын

Please make some strategy videos with Nifty using leaps strategy.

@lokeshgiri9302 Ай бұрын

It is impossible that there is more decay in biweekly than in weekly. Time value of the options contract is directly proportional to the square root of time left. Whatever decay happens in the entire 14-7 days (sqrt(14)-sqrt(7)=1.1, just the expiry day will have almost the same amount of decay (1)

@thetradingscholarr 29 күн бұрын

I know this formula, in % terms theta is more in weekly options, but in absolute terms there will be always more decay in Bi weekly options, if you don't agree let's bet for something and discuss on zoom, ready?

@lokeshgiri9302 17 күн бұрын

@@thetradingscholarr Hi there, I'd love to have a chat on this, we can compare actual premiums and find out the actual decay. Lets catch up, leave a way how I can contact you, may be DM helps

@monishaswani7402 Ай бұрын

Looks straight and simple. With all the rules followed with discipline, the only parameter that can make this setup a positive expectancy one is winning ratio. For how much time have you backtested or forward tested this strategy? And how much is the winning ratio? Appreciate your articulation of the strategy and all scenarios.

@hindubyheart Ай бұрын

Positive expectancy is attributable to RR as well apart from Win ratio

@monishaswani7402 Ай бұрын

@hindubyheart yes that is correct. It is already said in the rules that rr is 1:1, that's why i don't have any questions there. The winning ratio can only be found by backtesting and forward testing, which is not explicitly mentioned in the video, hence the question.

@hindubyheart Ай бұрын

@@monishaswani7402 SL is 0.5% and Tgt is 1%

@hindubyheart Ай бұрын

@@monishaswani7402 RR as per the video is 1:2 as SL is 0.5% and Tpt is 1%

@equity_aim Ай бұрын

Very good podcast...learn lot of things.....Vineet sir butterfly session lao bhai....

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

Thank you so much 🙏

@Bhakt-108 Ай бұрын

Lajawab Simple but effective

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

Shukriya sir❤

@TechelperAjit Ай бұрын

Please add Stock option also

@kushalpatel8658 12 күн бұрын

3rd profitable trade , carried into 2nd week. It should have been exited on Friday .

@Bumba007 Ай бұрын

Yah Sir bahut hi badhiya hai❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

@shaperabrasives7290 Ай бұрын

Instead of 300 point aways rule. Please give interms of delta of strike price. Points wise rule is absurd

@LivingThroughOptions Ай бұрын

I tried to backtest this strategy and for full of 2023 the strategy could not find trade based on the rules given, except for 2023 Dec (1 trade) which resulted in .5% loss.

@marketlearner7311 Ай бұрын

What uthis strategy not given any Trade

@LivingThroughOptions Ай бұрын

@@marketlearner7311 Yeah no trade with the given strategy. Since VIX was low you could not R:R 1:1 with 300 pt difference between ATM - sold call and ATM - sold put for 2023 - other than dec 23 where we had 0.5% SL hit around election results.

@gaganahuja9613 Ай бұрын

Kundan Sir ❤ Awesome knowledge

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

Thank you Gagan Sir

@pramod_trader 2 күн бұрын

What If black day event's time, big gapup and gap down?

@nataliashfak Ай бұрын

Sleepage and brokerage count karo

@thetradingscholarr 29 күн бұрын

Slippage ni hota jyada, and there is just 4 legs (total 8 order) for one week I don't think jyada hoga

@PradeepSingh-ss8iz Ай бұрын

very conservative strategy . thnxxx

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

Conservative but can give consistent profit

@gurudjain060607 Ай бұрын

Thanks

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

Welcome Sir

@vijaymaurya4688 Ай бұрын

great podcast.

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

Thank you Vijay ji

@thetradingzone9630 12 күн бұрын

Strategy looking good, but Liquidity in bi weekly is a concern. One can not easy to deploy for this for exact 1:1

@snehashismondal7199 Ай бұрын

This will work only when iv is high with big premium

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

Yes It is right that it works beautifully in HIGH IV scenario, but practice it so that in high IV you can trade this

@WaseemAkram-nz4gv Ай бұрын

Unfortunately I have noticed one issue with all strategies discussed even before. We are concerned with profit percentage on the capital deployed. Where as shouldn't this be profit percentage on the full capital available unless the person is using 100% capital at all times.

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

Yeah you have a genuine point, but as I've mentioned in the video that strategy needs no adjustment, so keeping any surplus money isn't necessary. If you deploy 10 lots, it'll require around 2.5L margin, but I'm keeping 3L as position sizing per set, still you'll make 1% easy

@MitulJainmitj1202 23 күн бұрын

safe IC + 10% ce leg buy to help with get skew: strategy is SL0.5% & TP1% without waiting for expiry. Deploy only if getting 1% in 600 points range & cut when reaching sell leg. Backed by data that in 2 week's expiry, 70% theta is expires in 1st week remaining 30% in near the expiry day.

@TajinderSingh-wl8ku Ай бұрын

Sir position kaise exit karenge sari

@thetradingscholarr 29 күн бұрын

Market order exit kr skte ho, koi issue ni aayega

@dadonwheels2199 Ай бұрын

in the slide.. PE side buy mentioned 300-350 away from the sold leg … is that correct or buy leg be only 100 point away from sell leg… confirm plz

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

It was typo mistake, buying leg sirf 100 points dur hi rhega

@muxymixy Ай бұрын

Implement feature of 1:1 in stockmock

@1122dhaval Ай бұрын

Bhaiya ... MKT me naye hi kya??? Fri- Sat me jya theta decay hoga? Kisne kaha ??? Bhai MkT me kahi pe bhi easy money nhi hai ..... Yeh naye bacche log sochate hai k Sat-Sun theta decay jyada hota hai ....

@thetradingscholarr 29 күн бұрын

To aap btaiye sir ki saturday sunday , 2 din k liye theta ni aata kya?

@1122dhaval 29 күн бұрын

@@thetradingscholarr bilkul nahi... Aisa hota toh sab straddle aur strangle bech dete

@Amitpatel-ee4vk Ай бұрын

Sir inko phir se Lao naye set up se sath sahi me a to holygrail hai koy mane ya na mane par me to manuga Hats off 👏 you Phir se lana aapki jimmedari hai😅

@MrMak420 Ай бұрын

If 1:1 rnr is not possible at the time of deployment then which is the next safest strategy to deploy 😊

@user-jq3jb8dl6u Ай бұрын

This is so silly, with this strategy you may expect a positive single digit return that too if you are lucky and there are people calling this a gem!

@prabirjana304 Ай бұрын

Awesome

@UP61WALA. Ай бұрын

Nice kundan sir ❣️💯

@BalaramMondal-ei8sw 16 күн бұрын

#Attention @Stockmock_creator Dont try to fool public . 3rd trade show profit 1.7% profit on 3rd june monday but trade strat date was 24th May friday . Holding limit as per the strategy will next Friday that means 31st may . But in that podcast exit will be in 3rd june 😂😂😂 what rubbish is this ...... Rule is getting changed because of not profit 😂😂😂

@prabirjana304 Ай бұрын

Bring Kundan sir 2nd time must

@thevisualjockey4070 Ай бұрын

Brilliant

@Babytabassum473 Ай бұрын

Nice video, We want another podcast with arshit .

@kundankumawat4926 Ай бұрын

My name is also kundan I am also a trader😊😊

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

Hii Kundan How are you?

@azzuvlog5350 Ай бұрын

gurudev ❤❤💎🙏

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

Shukriya sir

@monishaswani7402 Ай бұрын

Since you said US markets, would this also work in ES mini or NQ options?

@How_Trading_Works Ай бұрын

Make in english or pls add subtitles

@aaditysinha8369 Ай бұрын

Vineet sir ko ek baar aur bulao 😂😂

@PankajYadav-qf7sb Ай бұрын

600 points range and 1:1 RR both are not possible to get when premiums are low

@pushprajsingh5165 Ай бұрын

सर यह फीचर डाल दीजिए कि रिक्स रिवॉर्ड देने पर डिस्टेंस बता दे स्टॉकमाक

@ggchavhan Ай бұрын

BUT AT ACTUAL SIDE WHEN YOU TAKE REAL TRADE YOU DONT GET 1:1 R/R

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

If INDIA VIX is above 13, you can easily get 1:1 RR in 700 points range, Stockmock has simulator feature you can use and check And yes you'll get 1:1 RR for sure Try it once

@gujarvishal Ай бұрын

NICE SIR.. WATING FOR BUTTER FLY TONDON

@njpany1884 2 күн бұрын

When you tuber can't answer that means don't relai on them....

@THE_SANDYYY Ай бұрын

I think unka naam paul Tudor Jones hai !!!

@markl69 Ай бұрын

No one buys 10 lots in America (small retail traders). Please don’t promote this strategy. Small folks could lose big if the move is sudden on unhedged side.

@thetradingscholarr 29 күн бұрын

So which non directional strategy will not give me loss if there is big sudden move, I'm waiting for your reply

@markl69 26 күн бұрын

@@thetradingscholarr you have lots to learn to teach

@monishaswani7402 25 күн бұрын

Which is the unhedged side here? Both sides are hedged here.

@firozpatel6072 Ай бұрын

Show this person's ITR so we know how much profit he made with this strategy.

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

Dear Firoz I'm open to share my last 2 year PnL, but i've never said that i trade only this strategy, i trade more than 20 strategy depends on market dynamics And if you think it's not profitable, can you do forward testing for 3 months on paper, and share Trade report? I'll take down this video if data isn't positive and share my PnL as well, Deal???

@firozpatel6072 Ай бұрын

@@thetradingscholarrBother tum pehle trader ho jo 20+ strategy use krta hai market mai 😂

@sunilpagarwal Ай бұрын

Yaar all said and done,26 minutes h6i Gaye abhi strategy start nahi hua. Dear ye kahani wo kahani, log ye kehte, log wo kehte hai. Keep it short. If you want to increase your viewership please cut things short. Believe me.

@naturesound.5319 Ай бұрын

👍

@aaditysinha8369 Ай бұрын

Bhai ye kisko laaye ho ...time waste vineet tondon sir ko bulao😢😢😢

@rahulsaha7713 Ай бұрын

Agar over night a geya too !! Morning mY to Katt lunga !!

@Cosmochill-il7pt Ай бұрын

Better to backtest with python

@dhirajkhanna-thebeardedguy Ай бұрын

Is there any API available through which you could do this?

@Cosmochill-il7pt Ай бұрын

@@dhirajkhanna-thebeardedguy without backtest results, it is dangerous. But manual backtest is also possible if you cannot code,

@arunbohora6365 Ай бұрын

Sirji it takes 82 lots brokerage+other charges is 1900 deploy capital 260000 profit. 2600 it is actually 700 which is 1% annually 12% No loss is calculated.

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

First of all there are brokers like Finvasia, Kotak Securities who charge 0 brokerage and even SAS Online charge monthly 999 brokerage, and above all you're executing only 8 orders in week so i don't think any trader punch less than 10 orders in a week. so if you practice this strategy and you get profit which i believe that you'll Then brokerage should not be the issue, and charges are fixed expense if you increase capital upto 15-20 L profit ratio will be high I hope it makes sense to you now

@RahulKumar-mf7nu Ай бұрын

Bekar podcast

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

Dear Rahul ji, can you please elaborate why did you say 'Bekar Podcast' what you didn't like? if you think this strategy isn't profitable then please prove with factual data i'll take down the video. If it's not about the profitability of the strategy, please explain other aspects too so that i can improve myself Waiting for your reply

@dineshalagh9722 Ай бұрын

All through the year 2023 vix was very low then we wouldn't be able to trade at all and yu will sit with only 7 percent ROI from your Gsec bonds only and enjoy life with your silly and misleading podcasts.You can fool a few people but not everyone. There are lot better setups then your silly and impractical setup.

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

If you think one strategy works in every market scenario, then you should work on your mindset, you must be having multiple setup to do a full time trading so that you can deploy trades depends on the situation and make consistent money I trade more than 20 setups but in different market conditions And as I've already said in the video that if all rules are satisfied, then it can generate consistent returns But if there are scenarios, where conditions aren't meeting, deploy different strategy Expand your horizon rather than criticising without any base All the best

@brijeshsudani8703 Ай бұрын

Third class podcast ...1.50 hours poora waste ...

@rugvedk Ай бұрын

kyun wast e hua? Kya sahi nahi laga aapko?

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

Brijesh ji, please forward test this strategy for 6 months, and if you don't make decent returns (Do only paper trading) Then I'll personally ask Nitish bhai to take down this podcast Sounds good , right? Without putting any efforts, criticising anyone without any factual data is the easiest job to do Anyway thanks for your support 🙏

@rugvedk Ай бұрын

@@thetradingscholarr I have completed backtest for last 2 months on stockmock. We won't earn anything because all profit will vanish paying taxes. (not considering brokarage as I am using FlatTrade)

@amitstg Ай бұрын

Brijesh bhai ko is baat ka appreciation milna chahiye ki unhone third class podcast hone ke bawjood bhi 1,50 Hrs poora diya 😁

@Sumit-rz7yt Ай бұрын

@@thetradingscholarr sir isme capital kitna rakhna chahiye

@innocenthumans3721 Ай бұрын

Not that good strategy

@amitatfore Ай бұрын

Kundan ka twitter handle do pls

@1681chandan Ай бұрын

@Scholartrading

@startupworld497 Ай бұрын

Simple but super

@thetradingscholarr Ай бұрын

Thank you for the appreciation sir 🙏

@prashob131 12 күн бұрын

What to do if the market at 3pm is near to your put or call sell leg (lets assume 50 points) , should we hold the position for next day ? @thetradingscholarr