Stoffel Vandoorne: Dramatic Debut To Tough Exit

Stoffel Vandoorne: Dramatic Debut To Tough Exit | F1 Beyond The Grid Podcast

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@M4NA5 21 күн бұрын

McLaren ruined his career, among many others. Coulthard famously said, “If you look at the history of McLaren, whenever they have a really bad season, they drop a driver.”

@MalcolmTann0 21 күн бұрын

2015-20 was their worst period in history they only dropped Vandoorne

@fqeagles21 21 күн бұрын

@@MalcolmTann0💀💀

@M4NA5 21 күн бұрын

@@MalcolmTann02019 and 2020 were decent years for McLaren compared to 2013-2018, during which they dropped Perez, Magnussen, and Vandoorne.

@bogdanrusgp 21 күн бұрын

@@MalcolmTann0 between 2013 and 2017 they had 5 drivers.

@joriux 21 күн бұрын

You either survive by being fast or you are being dropped. That’s formula 1. Piranha’s club. Was called for a reason.

@moiseulpasmoi 21 күн бұрын

It’s funny how when they both left McLaren became better. Nando and Stoff with the 2019 - 2021 car would have been something.

@dominicbarden4436 21 күн бұрын

Honestly, if F1 allowed three-car teams, I believe Sainz, Norris and Vandoorne would've been a pretty strong lineup with those cars.

@JerainJezza 21 күн бұрын

Switch him for Stroll and both AM get points every race is my bet!

@ovs4744 21 күн бұрын

Logan Sargeant is much worse than Stroll

@rowan6207 21 күн бұрын

@@ovs4744also in a worse car

@ovs4744 21 күн бұрын

@@rowan6207 the difference between albon and Sargeant is way bigger than stroll and alonso on the grid. Not to mention Logan spins more than Mazepin. But hes american so people just cope 🤣

@oskierox 21 күн бұрын

@@ovs4744is it? Stroll crashes literally every race lol Sargent is just slow

@sadikurrahman4833 21 күн бұрын

@@oskierox mate at least stroll can be up there once every 3-5 however many races it is. the american is always bad.

@winkyben69 21 күн бұрын

He was a decent driver, he didn't deserve being thrown out of F1

@F1Guy-Guy 21 күн бұрын

But in F1 your 1st job is to beat your teamate sadly Van Doorne could'nt but Pascal Wehrlein beat Marcus Erricson and Estaben Ocon and still got dropped even without a test driver role

@winkyben69 21 күн бұрын

@@F1Guy-Guy Yess. Wehrline is even worse. Vandorne had a slower car than Alonso (McLaren admitted it) and also... It's Alonso. There are probably 2-3 drivers on the grid who would beat him in the same car.

@F1Guy-Guy 20 күн бұрын

@@winkyben69 So why cannot people like u ever make up your minds whenever Alonso had the much slower or faster car than his teamate 🤣

@ransomsdp 19 күн бұрын

@@F1Guy-Guythat’s true

@J.M_270 21 күн бұрын

This is the one guy (plus Wehrlein) who could’ve been in F1 all these years on talent alone…

@flaziola 21 күн бұрын

Fun fact, Van Dorne is the most recent driver to win a world championship in a Mercedes-Benz, the next most recent is Nyck de Vries and then Lewis Hamilton.

@shmet 21 күн бұрын

Still the guy with the most dominant GP2/F2 title

@bondinho6114 21 күн бұрын

Facts, im still disgusted on what McLaren did to him

@AKK5I 19 күн бұрын

It's like he never drove an F1 car until Aston picked him up

@mkgeebz 21 күн бұрын

One of the most underrated rookie And he arrived at the worst moment of McLaren😔

@avishek438 20 күн бұрын

Underrated????

@F1Guy-Guy 20 күн бұрын

Whos that Hamilton 🤣

@mkgeebz 19 күн бұрын

@@avishek438 wasn’t he underrated by McLaren maybe?

@Reznor_Meeks 21 күн бұрын

I have been watching Formula 1 since the early-mid 80's, out of all the drivers I've seen come and go in the more modern era, Stoffel Vandoorne to me is the biggest puzzle of them all, the hype around him was incredible, his dominance and craft before F1 years incredible, the buzz around him was huge, truly puzzling how he never managed to place the pieces together, I truly wonder what his career would've been like if he left McLaren early, no hate Stoffel, but you are a true casualty of the modern talents broken along the way on this sport

@paulsimon6378 21 күн бұрын

I honestly think he's one of the most underrated drivers before. Sad to hear McLaren dropped his career out for the team. At least his racing career is still not yet over especially when he was in Formula E and GP2 Series.

@hourand12 21 күн бұрын

This is so unfair Stoffel Vandoorne never had a second chance in F1. 😭😭😭 Is there a team can give him even just one race weekend? 🙏🙏🙏 And let him prove he's so much better than his McLaren's period. 😞😞😞 F1 is where Stoffel should be belong.

@domipro123 21 күн бұрын

I would love to see him in the place of Lance Stroll !

@ElMoShApPiNeSs 20 күн бұрын

I would love to see literally anyone in place of some dude who doesn't even want to be in F1.

@TheAstriius 21 күн бұрын

I wanna podcast with Stoff's dad. That's crazy the stories the parents of these drivers could tell, they've been trough everything !

@thatsawrap5235 21 күн бұрын

Norris was very underwhelming his first two years in McLaren, but he started showing he belonged in his 3rd season. I was kind of surprised that Zak Brown didn't give Vandoorne a 3rd year too, but then I remember that Vandoorne was a driver sought after by Ron Dennis, and Zak did a lot of firings that year within the team.

@justin4911 21 күн бұрын

Zak Brown figures his drivers are there to be fired. He fired James Hinchcliffe, for heaven's sake.

@truettbyrom4388 21 күн бұрын

Stoffel’s a brilliant Champion racer! Thanks for this, F1!!

@Firashelou 19 күн бұрын

Wish there was video when Frentzen was on the show ! would loved to see his reactions ! that genius of a driver !

@NicotineRosberg 21 күн бұрын

Joined McLaren at the worst time possible

@LurcherVonPapsmear 20 күн бұрын

What a great chat with Stoffel! And for a future episode, could you do a podcast with Nigel Stepney?

@DropkickNation 21 күн бұрын

At least I get to see him race in WEC!

@henryehler2270 20 күн бұрын

We need one for Sergei Sirotkin now

@leewat9068 20 күн бұрын

And Brendon Hartley, Marcus Ericsson

@the_fleeing_dutchman 3 сағат бұрын

Great interview and hope that we see Stoffel again in an F1 car, even if it is FP1. But, I wonder who would get the call, Stoffel or Felipe if one of the current AM drivers breaks a bone?

@F1Guy-Guy 21 күн бұрын

The guy who should really be in F1 is Pascal Wehrlein

@J.M_270 21 күн бұрын

See my comment above. Both should never have left on talent/pace

@sentientarugula2884 20 күн бұрын

@@J.M_270 Where is your comment above?

@J.M_270 20 күн бұрын

@@sentientarugula2884 below

@DogQiano 5 күн бұрын

I hope stoffel comes back to f1

@tulip19710226 21 күн бұрын

Stoffel seems like a really nice guy - it's a shame how it all went down at McLaren.

@RSRedBullRACING_14 21 күн бұрын

Can you take Lance's place?

@ALORACING14 21 күн бұрын

I'm with you

@crxdelsolsir 19 күн бұрын

McLaren were so far up themselves they were claiming to have the best chassis if not the same as Red Bull and that the only thing holding them back was the Honda engine. We know how that story went when both McLaren and Red Bull were powered by the same units and McLaren was not even close. The Driver in the development or maldevelopment had a major hand in that. Either by error or willingness so that they keep their seat and options to race in other categories like say Indy.

@bossmen6665 20 күн бұрын

he should change his name and do formula 2 again

@christianh1697 18 күн бұрын

Yeah he got a raw deal

@zbeen-ah-lah 18 күн бұрын

switch him with daddy’s cash so him and Alonso could be teammates again but in a much more competitive car

@Calibra95 21 күн бұрын

Peugeot Sport official driver 💪

@EJames22 20 күн бұрын

Tom a little too antsy in this one. Huge fan of Stoffel and his work

@darrenorange2982 19 күн бұрын

Why are there bad ads in the middle of a proper formula channel

@amrakunish5238 21 күн бұрын

"Toe to toe with Alonso", It was 21-0 in qualy...

@bondinho6114 21 күн бұрын

With clearly not the same car

@msflight9409 16 күн бұрын

Just look at his first year mate. Second year Zak Brown came in who was the manager of Lando.

@metro3313 21 күн бұрын

Is this the guy that had his F1 career ended by Alonso?

@bbttnetworkz 21 күн бұрын

Kinda yes, he always called him "Estoffel"

@M4NA5 21 күн бұрын

You can say that. Just like how Leclerc will end Hamilton’s career next year. He’s pretty washed already though.

@448f1 21 күн бұрын

@@M4NA5Leclerc can't even beat sainz and you think he can beat hamilton 🤣

@JerainJezza 21 күн бұрын

Alonso is one of the best, but McLaren ended Vandoorne's career with a horrible car and Alonso always got the better car/setup...

@iJohn_YT 21 күн бұрын

@@448f1 this is pretty complicated right now... Leclerc is genuinely quicker than Sainz. Why is he losing out to him then? Well, the car does absolutely not fit Leclercs driving style, and given to that he's actually been doing quite well. Sainz on the other hand does not cope well with cars that don't fit him. Remember 2022, when he was utterly losing to Lec. Apart from that, Charles doesn't seem to be too smart. When you drive for Ferrari, you need to do your own strategy, which is something he hasn't managed yet. Still, I believe he will beat Hamilton. Not because Hamilton is washed. He's already shown that he isn't. But Lewis is going to have to adapt to a completely new car, new steering wheel, new environment and so on. But we'll see

@gregoryshtevensh6868 21 күн бұрын

Ron Dennis, Max, piquet jr, or Alonso and Patrick head again please

@johnthunder962 20 күн бұрын

He should get another chance, switch him with Stroll!

@bbttnetworkz 21 күн бұрын

Very important question, who was actually first?

@nickmildon6348 21 күн бұрын

Probably Verstappen

@Brinta3 21 күн бұрын

Kelly told me that Max always comes first.

@AdrienneChan-ko3kp 20 күн бұрын

Tom just get to the point - stop leading the poor guy round and round. What was wrong with McLaren and do you think you should get a second chance in lance’s seat? 😂 How are you not going to ask about Alonso then vs now?! Having listened to every other episode this secret audition / what’s not said type interview is not necessary. You go straight at the point with everyone else except for Aston which every reporter tip toes around the topic we all really want to understand. It’s like Lawrence stroll is Voldemort. Stoffle losing his seating is unfair like lance stroll being in his seat is unfair. Ask him his perspective on being a reserve driver for lance stroll, next to Alonso even though he’s more than 4 points behind Alonso 😂

@jesperhammarlund300 20 күн бұрын

FE world champion. that says something since FE is harder than F1 and is the new pinnacle of motorsport.

@galaxy_ranger18 21 күн бұрын

stares in alonso* hehe boi

@Stormy7573 21 күн бұрын

@Formula 1 You need a mod to remove and report sexually explicit spam content in your comment sections. It’s out of control. I am a mod for other YT channels - so I know it can be done (cleaning up comments)

@nicholas8363 21 күн бұрын

You really think a channel with 10 million subscribers is gonna respond to your comment delusional 🤣

@jogihutagaol6366 12 күн бұрын

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@justin4911 21 күн бұрын

Stoff's performance in other series, along with his more current F1 practice times, are enough to show that he might be fun to watch if he had another F1 opportunity. That said, I appreciate they didn't overstate the importance of his recent Formula E championship victory, since that series is... not great.

@audreyperrin320 21 күн бұрын

I wish to would have max on checo was on I think max is the only one that has not been on

@elenaaidoni9728 21 күн бұрын

Eure Prognosen.. Nicht meine m.. Jedes Wort von jeden ab heute wird gezählt.. Abhaken 09..

@tizmarques1190 21 күн бұрын

😁😁😁

@MrAndrewChung 21 күн бұрын

4:00 how important is the talking aspect? how do you justify what you do for a living then?

@wetterdooche 21 күн бұрын

First it is Wednesday my dudes

@drewpenn7440 21 күн бұрын

It's actually 1am Thursday for me but ok

@TmRacer218 21 күн бұрын

First

@Stormy7573 21 күн бұрын

YOU are 3rd 🥉 comment !! 🎉🎉🎉

@TmRacer218 21 күн бұрын

Sorry lol

@sametozkan9175 21 күн бұрын

Replace him with Stroll

@Juventinos 21 күн бұрын

I think he says a little bit a little bit too much

@sillynut2958 21 күн бұрын

Just another episode of the Real Housewives of F1. Liberty Media has ruin F1.

@ovs4744 21 күн бұрын

Alonso ruined his career, worst teammate

@pisderata 21 күн бұрын

ur father ruinied ur career

@ovs4744 21 күн бұрын

@@pisderatamaybe learn some English first kid 🤣

@japyoo2248 21 күн бұрын

Mediocre

@-Mila732-TAP-ON-PHOTO 21 күн бұрын

*I think I'm addicted to social media. Who's with me? 😄* 👇

@drewpenn7440 21 күн бұрын

First

@Stormy7573 21 күн бұрын

You are 2nd 🥈 comment 😊😊🎉🎉🎉

@ItzNoahOnRBLX 21 күн бұрын

First

@Stormy7573 21 күн бұрын

YOU are 1st 🥇 comment !!! 😊😊😊

@bossmen6665 20 күн бұрын

True first well done