"Stop comparing these two games!" Proceeds to compare these two games for 10 minutes straight

I really think enshrouded needs weather. There are very few games that do storms as well as valheim.

lol. My first house in Valheim was a 3x3 rats nest where I kept walking into the fire in the middle of the room and suffocated my self with the smoke.

In Valheim I chopped down a tree and it killed me, I was shocked. In Enshrouded I chopped down a tree and it didn't kill me, I was shocked.

I usually compare Enshrouded to Subnautica, rather than Valheim. Hand-crafted world, narrative driven story, and somewhat fixed build pieces. I still love all 3 games to pieces, but I don't put Enshrouded in the same box as Valheim.

My biggest problem with Valhiems buildings is simply the lack of an early game stone wall/flooring. I'm going to be honest, buy the time I get the stone cutter my base is well under-way and I tend to stick with one theme for an area, so there is almost no chance of me using stone at this stage of the game becasue of this. I feel Valhiem really-really needs a early game stone building option.

Both of these games are so good. I'm glad to see someone else discuss this, because it's a shame that so many people can't just let games share similarities without trying to turn it into a competition.

Yeah I don't get it. Enshrouded isn't even a survival game. It has more in common with Skyrim than Valheim.

The thing I don’t like about building in Enshrouded is all the extra fiddly steps to get the same result as in Valheim. You want to build a wall in Valheim? As long as you have the materials you just plop it into the world. In Enshrouded you have to make stone blocks or wooden blocks or straw blocks first and clog up your inventory before putting something down. Want to make a torch in Valheim? BAM, place it straight into the world as long as you have the materials needed. You don’t have to craft it first, then get it out of your bag or the other hot bar that you don’t happen to be on and then place it. Valheim’s elegant simplicity really spoiled me.

yesss the cozy of valhiem, hear the storm raiding outside sleep well

They are indeed very different, but sadly when enshrouded came people were saying it is a better valheim which is why my friends and i got it, and regret it. We barwly put 10-20 hours in it, and it was more than easy and boring. I dont remember a single memoranle encounter and building was pretty clunky aswell. While in valheim every new biom was like scary and challenging and made us learn more and get better

"Don't compare," *Compares eternally*

the thing about valheim is, you feel rewarded building your house. i kinda hard how to explain that but that's the feeling i get when my first home base was finished.

Bosses: Valheim and Enshrouded definitely have different definitions of "bosses". Valheim's definition are as you said, fights you need to prepare for. They FEEL like actual boss fights as well, and after beating them you feel like you were rewarded by gaining access to the next biome and unlocking new weapons and armor to beat the next boss. Enshrouded however, has no actual boss fights aside from the Fell Wisp Wyvern which is the only fight in the game that feels like a proper boss but doesn't really reward the player in any capacity other than "congrats, you beat it". The World: The world in Valheim is so massive there's just no words to describe it. Yes it's pre-generated each time so everything isn't the same every time you make a new world but I think it adds to replay ability as opposed to a world where everything is static. Valheim DOES have some repetitiveness when it comes to biomes but I think that's completely fine. Enshrouded's world feels more immersive BECAUSE it was handcrafted and not pre-generated each time. Each game's world feels completely different but that's fine because both games are amazing in their own right. Crafting/Gathering: Valheim's item collection definitely feels like a chore and I think there could be some improvements. Limiting some items from being teleported I think is fine because it forces you to carefully bring it all back to base and it feels rewarding when you make that new weapon you saw someone else carrying. It just feels like you've accomplished something by manually carrying everything you've collected back to base. Enshrouded doesn't feel the same at all. It allows you to teleport anytime and anywhere as long as you aren't in the shroud which removes that feeling of accomplishment with "I've finally brought back what I needed to craft that weapon/armor". It also doesn't reward you as much when you just open a chest that's out in the open and immediately have a good weapon to use. The upgrading system in Valheim is more rewarding as well as opposed to Enshrouded because it requires more of that weapon's material compared to a common item that you get by just running around randomly in Enshrouded. Building: This aspect I think Enshrouded definitely takes the point over Valheim because you can edit every little individual "block". It makes me think more Sons of The Forest where building is more freeform. Valheim's building definitely has a lot of aesthetic but Enshrouded's building has more customization and is a LOT more freeform. I don't think there's much more say except that this game has more options than Valheim. The fact that Enshrouded's building system is customizable with changing every little bloc gives it the edge over Valheim. I don't think they SHOULD be compared to each other but it's nice to see what each game offers and I think both are great at offering certain aspects. It does come down to which game does what better and that's great to see, even if both games aren't entirely the same genre, one being an RPG with survival aspects and the other being completely opposite.

Also I love that Valheim has free repair costs, the biggest W in any game is free repairs, even if it doesn't make 100% sense I love it

Theres one BIG difference in the Games building Systems and that is: RAIDS! I think Building a Home feels a lot different when you know that at some Point you are going to be attacked. And i personnaly enjoy this tension far more than Building something pretty with no real purpose.

0:22 "I don't think we should compare them" Me - On it boss! *Shuts down video*

Valheim will always be my number one game followed by Minecraft then enshrouded.

Valheim is so good. It has too much identical characteristic. Atmoshpere is so good. Enshoureded is good too but I think it has missing parts for now.

I agree with most of your comments, but would like to add that I love the chests and finding great weapons, armor in Enshrouded, it makes exploration a joy as you want to uncover the whole map in the hope of finding something. Although I do agree that once found they should not be farmable, as it makes things too easy, the same with the shroud, once an area is cleared it should stay cleared, the story does not make sense otherwise. In Valheim you never seem to explore the whole area, or I didn't anyway, I farmed enough materials for what I needed and that's all before I moved on to new areas. Valheim is also very linear in progression of armor and weapons there is little variation to what players will use. In this case Enshrouded comes out top as there are so many variations from the talent tree that players can 'mix it up' to suit their playstyle. I love both games and I can see a lot of instances where one or the other does things better, it is as @irakonul4525 said, both games are so good, we should be happy we have access to two fantastic games. I hope more game devs take note of the success of these games and maybe we can get 2 or 3 more such games that we can compare, I wouldn't complain about such a situation 😉 Thank you for a great video, a fair and unbiased assessment, I enjoyed watching.

My man! I LOVED this videos editing. You kept me hooked the entire time. The audio balance, talking pace, pauses when changing topic and scenes, it's all so good. You deserve soooo many more subs

bro when we got to mountains in valheim with my friend we found the biggest freakin rock ive ever seen generated by worldgen. valheim's landscape is very special and it isnt worse than handcrafted imo. you will have your own iconic mountain, lake, island or whatever you didnt know you wanted in this game. and map and marking system makes it so much better. also yeah, portals are cool, but even though i love my carts, we used setting to allow teleporting ore, otherwise its just unreasonably time consuming

Of course everything wants to be compared to Valheim. The success of Valheim transformed a genre. Even games like Enshrouded had their publicist compare the game to Valheim even though its not similar at all. Yes, all the games in this genre chop trees, build a house etc... Why didn't Enshrouded say they were like any of the other dozens of similar style games.....because they don't have the current "pull" that Valheim does.

Great video. Something that does bother me though (and this is not directed at you necessarily) it the whole log out/log in reset thing. Someone blaming the game for allowing this is akin to saying "if you didn't want me to steal it then you shouldn't have left your bike outside on the lawn.". It's not a game flaw, it's a character flaw. It's simple, just don't do that.

*Me, without knowing what Enshrouded is, seeing the first clip "Oh look, Skyrim with mods"

Thanks for posting this. I haven't played Valheim and kept seeing the comparison. Personally, I'm a lot more casual and like the easy nature of boss fights in Enshrouded. I even cheesed the Wispwyvern solo. Basically, I'm here for the aesthetic of the world and the building, not necessarily the combat, and hopefully they'll keep the ability to 'cheese' boss fights for the more casual players

Thanks JJ. Great video. I stopped playing Valheim because of slow update progress but with this video i rememberred that i miss the game.

from my experience WITH COMBAT, enshourd is a level heavy game. while dodging you can still get hit, the parry system is decent but harder to time, you cannot fight enemies who are 10 levels ahead of you otherwise you die. while in valhiem, its more skill based. Parry, dodge and timing is key but very rewarding.

Yeah I play valhiem with ore portals and a slight increase to drops when gathering, the fact I can modify the game with out mods is a big plus for me

I wish for the plains they would add a 4 wheel black metal cart, even if its the same amount of storage slots, maybe less of a speed reduction, because a cart with over 1200 kg is such a slog to pull. And in real life, more wheels make it easier, I used to use a single-wheel wheel barrow for gravel and dirt, its a pain, then a got a 2 wheel and its so much better. Last year I got a 4 wheel metal cart and I can easily pull over 600 pounds, (I got it on amazon and I think the stated weight limit was like 700 pounds and it was only $65) so Valheim should definitely add a 4 wheel black metal or even iron cart, and have basically no weight limits so it doesn't slow you down or maybe only slows you down a little if the carry weight in the cart is over 1500 kg

Great video! I agree with you on the points you make. They are both great games, but different. I have started to dive into the building in Enshrouded more and its fun, but also at times frustrating because you have to build within its limitations. Valheim is alot more free in its building. I do wish Valheim would have the terrain modification of Enshrouded though :D But yeah, my heart is still with Valheim as mye favourite game, but its fun to play other games while we wait for Ashlands :D

Yea for me Enshrouded is very new...But they are totally separate in their mechanics...One thing that makes Valheim still stand out is that everything feels way more earned; the grind that you put in that allows you to automate resources and gear is way more rewarding than having your late game gear pop up in chests that you get in very minimally challenging fights and then reset the game- I hated that mechanic most...Although the building I would agree is streamlined I think it is a very high point for Enshrouded personally especially in the variety of the materials and interior deco but the game is early and still as of now it seems there is no crucial use to having an efficient epic base, versus Valheim where your base layout/storage/docking and crafting are all going to be integral to the hundreds of hours that you will spend grinding and how efficient you can be, which for me personally feels super rewarding as you unlock those late tier materials and upgrade your base and expand which allows you to be better equipped at playing the game efficiently- the transport system is the same thing, Enshrouded is too simple because it felt like you can be anywhere at any time no matter what, which again is good for streamlined effortless gameplay, but the portal mechanics of Valheim gives you more strategic thought and planning to what you are gathering and what is your strategy to get precious material from point A to B and forces you again to be efficient and thoughtful to how you plan your raids and travels meanwhile still allowing you to set up efficient travel systems in the portals to assist you.....What you prefer in one or the other game will highly depend on what you feel is rewarding, the amount of time and thought you are willing to put into the game and what you value in the gameplay.

its crazy that people hate on enshrouded because they like valheim. I like both. I played valheim for years, I like enshrouded a lot and I love that the world is handcrafted its a nice change

While I agree with you on Valheim's building JJ, I will say that I appreciate the simplicity. Ive never seen a game have such a good core mechanic, with the angles and snapping points giving you flexibility while not being overwheming with choice. I really like that it allows you to be creative while being simple enough that builds all feel organic and fit with one another. That being said, I totally agree that, on the balance, Valheim could use more furniture and decorative pieces. I really wish there were a simple stacked stone you could build with before needing a stonecutter (kinda like the old stone walls across the countryside in Northern Europe), and maybe some alternate wood designs accessible from the early game. Specific trim pieces for wall frames and windows, as well as small tables, shelves and such would be cool. Here's hoping they do like a Hearth & Home 2.0 sometime before full release!

Love both games evenly, can't wait for 1.0 for both games!

I love building in Valheim but i want to echo your sentiment about wanting more build pieces 🥺 I would love to add stuff like the ability to paint a design on the wall, maybe the ability to turn the troll leather into a chair or floor covering. I'd like more statues and random objects like baskets. I hope a developer reads this 😅😅 (and if they do can i also please combine ten dandelion to make a delicious salad?)

I do not so much compare them. I love them both Valheim and Enshrouded. They are similar, but different. Perhaps Enshrouded is easier and easygoing, 'cos you do not have to travel anywhere, if you do not want to. And there are no raids. One thing I really want in Valheim, is the possibility to dig into a mountain.

I love that in Valheim you can really personalize your builds with all the unique ways you can connect build pieces together

Enshrouded wishes it could be as good as Valheim.

Currently, with mods we have on Valheim it is much closer to Enshouded from playstyle point of view. This includes extra passive/active skill tree, too. We started to play our 1st run of Enshrouded day it came out. We do host both on dedicated server and prevent any kind of exploits. (Which includes Valheim's item duplicating or Enshrouded's world resetting.) On that note, it is Yours choice to exploit reload mechanic. Now, there are few things which people should actually compare instead of building system shown in video. (Since that's rather superficial thing for RPG games.) - Valheim's Vanilla armor sets are bland, mainly improving defense rating instead of diversifying playstyle. (And math behind defense is stupid as few extra points of armor make previous zone trivial.) Enshrouded armor sets are about role diversification and right armor type for right job is very impactful. - Enshrouded's armor pieces can be combined between sets to optimize effect and are still visually pleasing. Valheim sets lose that little bonus they have if they are not complete. - Valheim progression is: "We allow you to craft gear which you needed in last biome, don't expect gear fitting your current biome." Enshrouded progression is: "Just do whatever you like, way you like... it will somehow play out fine enough." - Valheim has no background story, just few rocks with rather random test. Enshrouded has actual story with a lot to read, NPC quests. - Valheim has unbelievable number of mods. That's because game has unbelievable number of holes which mods plug. In world content like monsters/bosses, features, gear, professions, ... One thing Enshrouded misses is weather system as said in video. And one thing Vanilla Valheim misses the most is "Seasons mod from shundal" which alters all zones based on time of the year. Even oceans freeze up in winter for while, while you do not freeze on mountains in middle of summer. It boosts up that weather atmosphere Valheim has as trees, grass, wild life, ... get affected by seasons, too. And here is final comparison one should get: - Valheim development is extremely slow. This or next week we'll get Ashland update... just after year and half of waiting. - Enshrouded development is about 4~5 times faster. Team takes a lot of feedback. Since January, they added extra content to existing zones and made a lot of impactful changes. => Re-Playing Valheim every 6 months is replaying practically same game except latest content update (if any). While re-playing Enshrouded after 6 months gives you very new experience even in starting zones. And here is final note: Both games will give players their money worth of gameplay. Seasoned Valheimers have over 400 hours in. New player can expect anywhere between 60 and 100 hours for 1st playthrough. Possibly even 120 hours with Ashlands. Initial release of Enshrouded gave people 40~80 hours of gameplay and story, too. With next big expansion one can expect same 60~120 hours of fun.

Stopping comparing games in general is a good rule of thumb find words to describe why you like or dislike something. Comparing oversimplifies and creates a reductive argument that only works at face value

Wonderfully edited video. Every shot was visually appealing and the audio mixing completed it perfectly. You bring up great points separating the two games. I don't understand why these are so often juxtaposed. They are two very distinctly paced experiences. I agree that Valheim is missing building pieces, (where are our turf roofs? Vikings used wattle and daub!) I would really like to get into modding in order to revamp and add to the building pieces in a way that's still in line with the game's artstyle. It feels like building is often proportioned unevenly in regards to the player's size. If you could add anything, what would you?

Hi from Australia.' I have both of these games and have over 1200 hours in Valheim and over 400 in Enshrouded. Both games have the "I am over the grind" element to starting new characters. My preference in design is Enshrouded. It is a far more polished game. With this said, I consider Valheim to be one of the greatest games ever made. Comparing them is natural for gamers. They have a similar feel to each other. Enshrouded just has a sense of being there that I think is better than Valheim. The auto generated maps in Valheim can be spectacular, but the last few maps I generated were a mess. There are pro's and cons in both the games design choices. Anyway, I liked your video. I will be keeping an eye on your channel from now on.

Food in Enshrouded IS mandatory because it gives you almost as much health as you have (at least as a mage) and gives huge bonuses to magic, dexterity or strength.

Bro, about the building in Enshrouded, you can press «X» while in construction mode to turn off snapping, and then you can detail how much you want🙏🏼

Hello, is there any way to get save worlds or building blueprints? There are very few of your works on valheimmains, I would like to get others, and construction according to the guides takes several weeks for one building. I use everything when I play with friends in various pvp modes in Valheim that I make myself.

When someone asks "are you a dog person, or a cat person?" And you're thinking, Yes! And rodents, and other ones, too. I love Valheim and will probably enjoy Enshrouded, too.

Dang man valheimmand enshrouded are nearly the same game its amazing.

The coziness line just hit me so hard

It takes 30 min for things to respawn. Unless you load the chunk back in, then the timer resets.

"Stop comparing these two games!" "Let me do it for you"

great comparison. Enshrouded needs weather systems. They add so much to survival games. Icarus has some decent weather too, it was lazy not to put something weather related into Enshrouded.

They really are apples and oranges. Thank you for your breakdown on their pros and cons.

Ain't no one gonna stop me from comparing things

Outward + Valheim + Enshrouded = Games to play and release stress

With Water and Boats, the author very accurately hit the enshroud on the nose))))

They are similar in all the right ways and different in all the right ways. I love them both and I enjoy swapping between them. They both have the same elements I love. They are both their own stories and playstyles. Valheim reminds me more of an old school survival game while Enshrouded has serious DnD vibes. I can honestly say owning both is great and I would recommend both. EDIT: I think one of your issues with Enshrouded is that it doesn't have as much content. Enshrouded just entered early access. Valheim has been out a few years. Enshrouded has already had one major update with more on the way. They even dropped a roadmap that included the next biome. Give it a year and see how you feel about them.

How's the normal enemy encounters in enshrouded compared to valheim? In valhiem you could get into some bad situations and could easily die when there's multiple.

yeah similaritys - you can build. everything else is just different same for grounded it is compleatly different game when you got random map vs when you all got the same it gives freedom and unique

I agree completely. I enjoy certain mechanics of Enshrouded (the quick select ranged weapon and using the mouse wheel to cycle through quick slots) and really miss them in Valheim. But Valheim feels less limited from a world perspective than Enshrouded. The quests are great in Enshrouded and drive the game, but you know you will finish them at some point and then what? As for crafting, I hadn't really thought about it, but you are correct in saying that in Valheim all the weapon and armour upgrades are things you work for and them make yourself, whereas in Enshrounded, while you can fashion different armour sets, there is literally no point in crafting weapons except at the very beginning. I always thought that adding random weapon loot drops with different rarities in Valheim would improve it, but after playing Enshrouded I'm not sure any more. Maybe if Valheim did something similar, the loot could be runes that add extra characteristics to existing armour or weapons.

Thanks for making this video, JJ. I haven't given Enshrouded a chance yet, but this gives me a clear idea of what to expect. It seems that Valheim ultimately appeals more to the cozy builders. Too bad Iron Gate adds so little furniture. It is mainly functional, rather than decorative. I'd like to go wild with my own builds.

I agree with most of your takes. I'm admittedly a huge fan of Valheim, but I've quite enjoyed my time with Enshrouded as well. I think the greatest similarity I find with the two games is that they're much more enjoyable when played/tackled as a group.

Valheim is a far superior experience for me personally. It just hits on a completely different level of immersion, commitment, challenge and reward. Special game imo.

I love both of these games, and I also don't like it when people try to compare them as equals, they just aren't the same at all. The only similarity is that they are Survival games. The way I see it is that Enshrouded is a "RPG Story Survival" while Valheim I think is more "Open World Exploration Survival".

Man, I just wanna build stuff, and role play.

Enshrouded has the potential to match and exceed Valheim if they expand on the building object component and add dynamic fluids.

Stability and underground are big building differences between the two as well. Also, there is no threat to your builds in Enshrouded which is a big negative for me. I think I prefer Valheim overall but vanilla is pretty punishing trying to retrieve bodies or hauling ore across the world. Both great games.

I completely agree!!!

Valheim is more enjoyable for me. I can play valhiem over and over and it always end up a different experience because the map is never the same. On enshrouded it's exactly the same thing every time. That is my biggest doubt about enshrouded. No weather effects that gave the game depth, no water travel. Everything is accessible and easily accessible to where there was no satisfaction after it was completed.

Sometimes it's not a comparison people are looking for. I looked up some info putting them side by side because I am wanting to try Enshrouded but my wife and I have been enjoying Valheim. A lot of people who played Valheim also are playing Enshrouded so I love to hear their feedback on what they like in Enshrouded but ultimately we're just going to try it ourselves :)

Valheim could really benefit from a real voxel world instead of a mesh one with max stretching limits (can't cut a mountain in half as the mesh can't stretch that much and with weigth/physics doing supported tunnels would be fun). Enshrouded could benefits from a new games + procedural world generation, once you finish the game you can create random maps to explore. i would love to see a game like enshrouded have procedurally generated planet similar to ECO/Astroneer, big enough to feel "flat" but small enough to be able to go all the way around in a couple hours. i really hope "Light No Fire" is like that.

I'd say Enshrouded is closer to Conan.

I totally agree. In Valheim, the first stormy night in my house cooking near the fire was something ! And nice comparison of these two games, I love them both too.

My comparison: Valheim 1,240 hrs, Enshrouded 9.5 hrs, Conan Exiles 102 hrs, ARK SE 2.3 hrs, Nightingale 5.9 hrs, Palworld 8.1 hrs.

Something I do dislike on Valheim is the fact that you can't have dedicated server, you have to rely on someone's login to enter somewhere. But there's more than 2 years since I've played the game did that change?

You ever play Len’s Island? I love the building in that game. They just released a huge update too. It’s a little buggy, but it’s in EA. I’ve gotten 500 hours out of it solid. It’s so cozy but so open to customization and upgrading. Mix between Minecraft, STARDEW Valley, Valheim, and Diablo.

valhiem been out for 3 years. imo i dont think its a fair comparison to either game. similar yes but completely different games in completely different stages of their life cycle. maybe after a year enshrouded is out with updates we can revisit to see if things have been changed or improved. atm lets jsut enjoy them they are very well made and crafted games.

can a game world be partially hand crafted and partially generated?

If you dont like reseting the qorld to open a chest... Just dont do it.

What game is the best?

I don't understand what's wrong with comparing them, they're fundamentally the same type of game. Both are Survival games with zone based enemy, resource, gear and building progression, the only difference is they go about it in slightly different ways. It's like saying you cannot compare BG1/2 to BG3 because the first ones are isometric and BG3 is not, they're still fundamentally D&D based RPG's so of course you can compare them.

335hrs Valheim, currently 365hours with Enshrouded. Love both games. Valheim is indeed more challenging but I'm also that type of player that loves crafting/building and that's the reason my play time in Enshrouded exceeds my Valheim playtime. For me the only comparion is they both in the same genre i tend to love.

Bosses in Enshrouded are a joke. You can literally 1 shot any of them with one spell: Acid Bite. No dragged out fight. No boss mechanics to avoid. Just walk up, insta kill, and move on. Melee builds are pointless their damage is mediocre at best. Ranged combat with arrows is equally useless since the cost of ammo. Healing is gutted so playing healer support is utter garbage and you could remove that tree/aspect entirely and no one would notice. Building in enshrouded is clunky and just terrible overall. NPCs are useless outside of the niche recipes they provide. They don't move from where they are placed, don't have any engaging dialog, and like Healing skills: could be completely removed from the game and replaced with just picked up recipes and no one would care or notice.

honestly visualy it also looks like soulframe

Bro, I actually thought it was modded Skyrim

Ofcourse people will compare the games, they're very similar and in the same genre, and they should be compared. Competition breeds innovation!

I so wanted a game like this. I do not have time to grind everything including my underwear. I do not have time to master a difficult combat system that ruins your day if you do not play combat games constantly. Not everyone is a master gamer.

The reset about Enshrouded is balanced for different players, players who have time to grind just don't do it and enjoy gathering, for players who have less time to play, it is a good way to do it, how to use it is decided by the player. 🥰

Is valhaims camera shake optional?

Enshrouded is basically an open world action RPG a la TotK. The survival stuff almost feels unnecessary

They are nothing a like. Other than them both being Survival games, even through Enshrouded is not rarely Survival.

I love to play Enshrouded and Valheim, I hope more building games in the future

Enshrouded is more similar to Minecraft than anything really, imo.

Over all I think valheim is better but enshrouded does have the cooler idea of skill tree and building into types. It’s cool in a group you have an archer, fighter, battle wizard. While in valheim everyone kinda the same but some of us are better at using sword than hammers

Valheim needs more content. the base game is amazing but they could spice it up. more enemies more build pieces variations of build pieces. something like that would give it a huge edge.

well, they're the same genre, have the same content in generally, surviving, bosses fights, exploration. So we can comparing them. they're both great game have their own features but they're the same type of game

Briefly: both games are great but for long term play Valheim gives great co-op and good solo experience while Enshrouded is great solo (story driven) and good co-op experience. I don't think Valheim is going to change its nature at this late stage, and I don't think Enshrouded will ever offer great co-op story driven play (even though the devs will try).

contrary opinion, but I think I can do much better detailing in Enshrouded, mainly due to what I call "placeables" (the non-voxel components like rugs chairs shelves) and have had some success in making a variety of roofs (tho not to the degree that I could in Valheim... still I might try to achieve it, maybe there will be new placeables in the near future) with currently provided placeables/tools, you just have to know how ;) /resisting my urge to say skill issue

enshrouded needs more souls-like boss fights. towering behemouths like the wyvern that make the player feel small after wiping out entire villages of fell or ravagers. the wyvern boss was hands down the hardest boss in the game and it was the only one that felt like a boss. the first boss fight felt intimidating at the shroud root but once i came across them every so often felt mini-bossish. valheim's grind is what really kills it for me, and if i have to spend 15-30 hours in a biome just to progress like i did with the swamps and mistlands im going to lose my shit. while it does make the game feel completing once you get to the next biome, i have found myself through my 800 hour journey through multiple valheim playthroughs to get tired right as i get to the plains, and had to very much so push myself to mistlands even with the new world modifiers set to x3 on resources. the scenery in valheim might change, but the grind very much if not aggressively more so stays the same. i'm waiting for the full release of ashlands to go back to valheim, but im building myself a post-swamp base like i've just finished the swamp and im heading to plains mistlands and ashlands because im not sure i can take the slaughter that is the bronze and iron age.

NOOOOOO DONT COMPARE THESE SIMILAR GAMES