I'm a green rigger in nz very calming listening to del I wish I was learning off him instead of been yelled at all day

Too right man, that's good advice. I've been a green dogman for a good, patient operator who was willing to let me build my skills and I learned more and learned faster by getting listened to. It's about respect and respect goes both was when it's working properly. Thanks for good content

Having an operator not listen to stop is downright scary. I understand when using a whistle getting all the commands out can be a little slower, however stop means stop no matter what. Once the crane is stopped you can sort everything out. Love the videos Del, very helpful for a green doggy

If an operator isn’t listing to my commands I will walk right up to his cab and trust we will have some words

Copy copy a yea ya! Mate been a rigger for some time now keeping busy helps the day go faster, although I’ve been on mine sites lng and coal construction sites shutdowns dragline,power,lead smelters aluminium refineries and city construction to name a few!My point here is all the years 98% of my operators have been great and stopped when they themselves saw something not right which makes a dream team. It goes both ways especially when no los can be maintained! I like to give clear concise instructions and to voice a visual image- “3 meters to the hand, two, one in the hand, meter to touch, halfa, touching now” if unsure ask lads! Uppa a yea ya keep the awesome posts bruv

Trainer and assessor for HRWL here. Every day just trying to be that person I needed when I was starting out in the game, instead of just getting yelled at and demeaned. Just be supportive of the new guys and girls- it'll come back to you in spades. And yeah, as Del said, give them the chance to see their mistakes and some feedback to improve. ✌️

One thing I was told when I was green was if the operator starts doing his own thing STOP THE CRANE. Walk up to the cab and tell the operator to get out. When the operator asks why tell him that you’re tagging out the crane cause it’s moving by itself

There’s so much subtle psychology to being a crane operator or a rigger that most people don’t consciously think about or express verbally. Its great that you can put this into words for people in the industry to really get think about.👍

I just got my rigger 1 and advanced rigger certs, I will be following you to listen to your tips, thank you !!!

Thanks for making this video mate, really great tips and info for someone about to get into rigging.

Yes, rigger might angry, my operator is not looking at me, he is looking the load, he will look at me if the load is in danger

I absolutely agree. Had an operator who I literally handed the radio back to him and told him I am going to the lunch room as he was 100% freestyling. His reason “ I could see the whole lift so I did not need instructions” I have made many mistakes and love it when the operator prevents me from making stuff ups. It goes both ways.

Absolutely bro . Its about nuturing trust . Love your vids and shares , i feel you might have added in this and the next one the important fact that if there was an incident , especially on the blind...it wouldnt matter if at the end of the day if the rigger was green ,the fact the operator didnt listen ....its about team work and kicking goals together as a team....same rules apply for excited know it all green operators that somehow in the excitement of pushing buttons and puling levers forget their roots. Onyah bro , keep them posts comming , your input is appreciated , much love 💜

Operator should listen most of the time because sometimes he might not see something the rigger can see about the load. I say most of the time because if rigger is green, he might be giving really bad commands which might damage pick once it's in the air

Hello, thank you for your video, between the truth and your humorous descriptions , it has made my night, i like people who encourage other's to better their circumstances. Cheers mate and have Merry Christmas. 🎄👌🍻🙏😊

This advice is exactly what my 1st crane operator needed. He wouldn't listen to me or my other slinger.. Him and the supervisor knew each other for a long time so they worked well with each other. Luckily I haven't met an operator like it since! As of tomorrow I'm finally on the levers too, that's how I found your channel, much appreciated for the good content bro👍🏼

Your the man bro, your advice is going to help alot.

hye brother im from Malaysia glad to know you brother and your info about crane and rigging.... I also works at rigging and crane department... tq for share your knowledge... im support ur my brother

Good point lot of riggers&operators need trust in each other especially when doing blind lifts 👍🏼

I’m a green doggy and this is really valuable info. Thankyou and love your vids 👊🏻

This should be in every crane course very smart bit of info from a rigger 3 years in I feel this

This is 100% right,when I started as a dogman I had a crane driver winch up without me giving any command I was hooked by my overalls to a sharp piece of steel because I couldn't jump out of the way fast enough as I was not expecting the load to move he lifted me about 2.5m in the air before I fell to the ground he could have killed me...... always wait for the command it's the purpose of having a dogman.

As soon as it happens.....stop operations and check with driver if he understands the commands, he will then question it and if if continues repeat the progress

Absolutely agree! I’m a millwright rigger in America. Cheers bro!

It's a safety issue as well, the guy on the ground may see something wrong that the crane driver can't, always follow signals

Another great vid my dude!

This video resonates with me deeply. 4 years ago i at 21 years old started working at a machinery company with 0 experience with Franna cranes or even any cranes for that matter. Part of the job was being dogman or rigger for my boss, moving caterpillar parts around our yard and loading trucks with the MAC25 Franna crane. I’m always the dogman because i dont have my crane ticket. I got a crash course from my boss, (the operator)in hand signals. He’s been driving small and big cranes for easily 20 years, lots of experience for one of Australias largest heavy construction companies, driving huge cranes. He’ll say “come over here and help me move this Dozer blade to the display area bruz!” But only follows half of my hand signals. It really frustrates me when he doesn’t listen to my hand signals, makes me feel fucking worthless and embarrassed and shoots my confidence right in the arse. He’s a good guy but problem is he knows he’s a damn good crane operator and most of the time he can see the load clearly so just run his own race. But still. It’s the principle of the matter. Dont get me to rig for you and help you pickup and place things down on the ground or trucks and then disregard all my help that you’ve asked for in the first place.

cheers bro i needed this today

There was a crane operator who wouldn’t trust me and I didn’t get to learn much until the next site

Great video mate 👍

Bro best advice ever Thanks

So true mate spot on

I have confidence. And as a new rigger with little experience im going to go for an interview for a dogman. Wish me luck !

also he might get complacent, relying more on the operator to make the right call. Like his position is just a formality.

Day 3 of Fifo life. As a RB... Chucked me in the deep end hard!! On top, unloading Mill Plates Lines... Imagine my frustrations!🤯😓 Really does take a toll on ya confidence!

Well said.....

Hi mate, love your videos, mate I need your help going to be operating a grove 130 ton all terrain, can you do a video of complete set up from start to finish including picking up counterweights and Tele boom out for lifting, appreciate your help, I have to do a voc in a week or so and pretty much lost.

Cheers bro! I'm a bit green i keep my eyes open for this happening

There should be more craneys like this guy. Ive been on both ends of the hook . I now find myself attempting to get back into the industry after a few years layoff and the thought of dogging for an impatient driver is making me want to forget about it.

Well said

100%. Assuming it's safe to follow the wrong command.

It’s also a safety thing, I’m a green rigger still learning I get things wrong or give the wrong command but knowing the crane is going to help and also listen and doing the commands knowing it is wrong helps me correct my mistakes and I learn from it. I had one crane operator who know I was green as hell when I give him my command he radio me “ask am I sure” I looked my load than look at what I’m doing I saw what I did wrong was really helpful and help with keeping my confidence. I had one crane operator that saw I did something wrong and radio over swearing at me telling had do something wrong and that I’m shit at my job but didn’t tell me what I did wrong after that I lost all confidence keep asking the other rigger to check my load and how should do thing ( the rigger was happy help but I could tell he was getting annoyed by the end but he could see I had no confidence after what had happened ) the crane operator and rigger both knew at the start of the shift that I was green as well I’m all honestly about my skills and ability because safety comes first.

Great advice and this also applies to ALL "green" entertainment techs

thanks for the tips Per Mertesacker

Man I had a franna operator treat me bad. Brought me down every chance he got. Everything I did was wrong. He complained that he was tired of getting out of the franna to help me.

Rigger should control everything past the hook guide the crane operator

The crane driver doesn’t assist the TRADESMAN ..... the riggers do.

Good job

What a solid dude

I totally agree with this. Buuuuuut! Lol when your under the pump in general hire and he gives you directions and you can see that it will cause damage and it’s not what you need to be doing, sometimes you don’t have the luxury of time to get out or call him/her over and explain the intricacies of what needs to be done so you end up just jibbing down a little bit or correcting the slew ect ect. I have been in both positions green and operator. I always listen to commands and do not freelance.. but sometimes when they are green and they’re taking sooooo long to do things and you don’t have time to show them you just gotta do what you gotta do. Then when we’re in the cab together I explain why I did what I did and then explain how to work smarter and faster. But totally agree Dell! ✌🏻 peace out ah yeh ya

If stop comes over the radio and you don’t stop!! Pack your shit up and leave because you’re dangerous and some one might not go home to there family we don’t need that shit!!🍻💪

Thanks ma man

Nothing I hate more is when ANYONE gives a stop signal and the operator keeps on going...

Are you able to make a video on the best way to stand up long columns as a beginner? Different scenarios: column is stood up from the bottom up, top-down and lifted up while it is layed sideways. Thanks. 🙏

And afterward he is blaming me for not doing well

Del's a champ! 👍

100% agree

Doing my basic rigging this coming Monday? And tips lads? Did my dogging ages ago and my C2 just recently will these help me? Boily by trade cheers blokes! Edit sorry I posted this before watching the vid so my apologies if he brings this all up lol.

Had a Crane operator almost take my head off a few times with a beam. One quck story. Crane operator got in an argument with the supervisor over the next load to be moved. Meanwhile im up in the trying to connect the previous load. The load is level with my chest. The end of the beam a foot or less from my chin. (A tight spot to connect in) Supervisor at the cab having a discussion with the operator. Operator gets mad, yanks up on the line and prepares to set the load back down ....and yes quit. That beeam missed the bottom of my chin by two or three inches. Thats just one story. Pissing people off on the jobsite for laughs can get people hurt or killed. Yelling and arguing helps no one on the jobsite.

Opening statement your dead on…..bro I’m tired of telling dudes that everything you do or learn out in the field leads to the ultimate goal which in my field is crane operator! fork lift,truck driver,helper,signal man,oiler etc why jump right to crane when there’s lots of small things that will make you better at actually operating the crane…..

This is why I stepped away from the field and now they're hurting for workers. Gotta learn but crane opps in the US seem to undermined everyone. I'm on the fence on this career after 13 year of it

I like that

Hey mate just wondering, can you tuck the hook block away on a twenty tonne franna when using the rhino hook. Cheers tim

I like it rigging 2yrs xprience

Riggers ???? Take the credit for hard work craftsman put into a product... it’s a matter of time before australia makes it trade based only. It’s already started in 2016

Advanced rigger 😏🦵🥵

im sorry :(

He's in NZ? Or anNZer in Australia or somewhere elsewhere?

and you get most of it back at tax time... it's an investment in YOU

Look mate it goes both ways, shit operators, shit riggers, good riggers, good operators. Even though I am confident on my hook ups, I am open minded and work with the operator and I still ask the question because there is many ways to skin a cat and I don't stop learning. Nothing worse than an over confident arrogant rigger or crane operator. You never stop learning and ask the question. "Don't be arrogant because arrogance kills curiosity and passion." - Mina Bissell

Youre trying to do something 1 way theyre trying to do something their way. You lose all rights once you jump in the seat. We out here are in control not you.

Sometimes they tend to panic. Especially if your a fast operator who hoist down early and fast. Sometimes listening to there calls can injure themselves and others, or damage shit. When your doing the three at once and fast its crucial to make the correct calls.

Absolutely I have experienced this with Campbell construction crane operator it really frustrated me when he did not listen to my commands which put me and others in danger on the ground because I was at that time doing my best I’m only asking for the best I can see what’s going on on the ground I’m like the guy 200 feet up in the air who is arrogant to my commands thank you for this video thank you for understanding wish you were my crane operator today🫡