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Жыл бұрын

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In the Zenin clan, the importance of potential thrSough inherited Cursed-Techniques and proficiency with Jujutsu, is on another level compared to anything we’ve seen throughout the entire series. The Zenin clan determines a set lifestyle and career path for any of its descendants based on their value, which is decided by them holding various powerful Cursed-Techniques. But while holding the clan to its strict regulations, the Zenin clan rose to become one of the big three Jujutsu families. But there are two people whose very existence defies the entire existence of not just the Zenin clan but the entire Jujutsu World, Maki Zenin and Toji Fushigoro. While not having the ability to use a single Jujutsu Technique, they’ve both grown to the heights to become one of the most impressive characters in the entire series. Throughout my videos in the past one of the most requested topics by far has been to cover the power of these two uncontrollable monsters. In this video I’ll be going over the power, arsenal, progression and overall combat prowess between these two demons to clear up any misconceptions about the power of both of these demonic fighters. If you enjoy Jujutsu Kaisen content please leave a like and subscribe and comment on some video ideas you want to see be done down below.
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@therealslimshady6763
@therealslimshady6763 Жыл бұрын
The fact that Toji was just so strong that he didn't even care about vengeance is the most chad thing
@MrWescottX
@MrWescottX 2 ай бұрын
For real. With raw physical strength, physical speed, and durability.
@merouanebelaroussi9706
@merouanebelaroussi9706 Жыл бұрын
Maki is a Warrior, she goes in front and center and strategies as the fight goes on. Toji is a Hunter, he study his target extensively, weakening it bit by bit, and only show himself for the final strike; he remind me of Rengar from league of legends.
@Jason-rl9gf
@Jason-rl9gf Жыл бұрын
Facts my friend.
@landendrake
@landendrake Жыл бұрын
Best description I’ve heard of Maki and Toji well done!
@merouanebelaroussi9706
@merouanebelaroussi9706 Жыл бұрын
@@landendrake thx m8
@cxncien
@cxncien Жыл бұрын
Based on only one fight we've seen, plus... against Gojo😮, young or not... he's a monster, against Dagon... Toji just went for the neck, no preparations like with Gojo, just got playful cloud then😈Dagon's gone😂. Maki being a warrior... so far only against characters who weren't vastly stronger than her during the fight, her vs Kenjaku or Sukuna... she'd better strategize beforehand and wait for them to weaken or 😂😂😂that's foolish suicide, even Gojo as strong as he is... doesn't run into trouble without understanding(in shibuya he moved away from Jogo and Hanami for a while when he first saw Domain Amplification in effect). Maki is like Captain Marvel from the Marvel MCU to me, powerful... but i don't like the personality so even when she beat Naoya i thought "cool fight but Toji would've looked better to me even if he did everything the way you did" all the Maki fans can sue me😛
@antixblast7772
@antixblast7772 Жыл бұрын
Mali warrior, Toji: Hunter/predator hunter from what you said, predator cause this man's instincts were literally to kill the strongest around
@JrosePayroll
@JrosePayroll Жыл бұрын
MAKI - will walk you down and then beat you senseless TOJI - Will wait until you think you are fully done with work and then give you the last stack of papers 😂
@alexm.650
@alexm.650 Жыл бұрын
Toji mid diffs maki, maybe even low
@kfbeatforeternity5271
@kfbeatforeternity5271 Жыл бұрын
​@@alexm.650experience and more weapons isn't going to help much when he's literally fighting himself. They're stated to be equal. Not similar.
@sakibmahmud3621
@sakibmahmud3621 Жыл бұрын
@@kfbeatforeternity5271 Toji is much stronger. He was on Gojo's level. If he survived, he would still be on par with Gojo's current level. While maki is close to Yuta's level. They are similar but the male version is obviously stronger and more determined.
@prashantgiri1642
@prashantgiri1642 Жыл бұрын
@@sakibmahmud3621 bro dont cap too much lmao ....toji is stronger than maki but not on gojo level toji was already past his prime he was probably only a bit weaker than his prime ....and still he had to prep to guarantee a win against teen gojo(pre awakened) and won cause gojo's senses had dulled.... awakened gojo reacted to every attacks of toji and easily dodged them and molywapped him and gojo only got stronger from that point....no way toji would on current gojo's level lmao no one is on current gojo's level gojo would merk toji without even trying .......
@troy7835
@troy7835 11 ай бұрын
@@sakibmahmud3621gender has never been mentioned to impact heavenly restriction…don’t use your own weird headcanons
@eyepatch_1234
@eyepatch_1234 Жыл бұрын
Playful Cloud was also a part of Toji's arsenal originally , that's where Geto got it from
@guilha1506
@guilha1506 Жыл бұрын
Getou casually stole a bunch of top tiers weapons by getting that curse, ultra stonks
@eyepatch_1234
@eyepatch_1234 Жыл бұрын
@@guilha1506 lol
@nequitia4665
@nequitia4665 Жыл бұрын
yeah and gojo (cause he is the head clan of gojo clan ) took it over and gave it to maki
@emmasongbiaye2205
@emmasongbiaye2205 Жыл бұрын
Alot of people think he's arsenal are just the weapons he used during his fights when in reality they should be far more than that he even pulled out a gun he probably has grenades and other modern weapons. I doubt highly that he didn't have other special grades cursed tool
@motivatedman4630
@motivatedman4630 Жыл бұрын
@@emmasongbiaye2205 his cursed spirit casually swallowed Riko's body, I bet he had much, much more weapons than what he shown. Toji is literally Dante in that aspect. Switching weapons on the run.
@reallythishandleistaken
@reallythishandleistaken 11 ай бұрын
Title "Stop Downplaying Maki And Toji". Meanwhile Maki and Toji basically capable of soloing 95% of JJK verse without a problem.
@Mega2chan
@Mega2chan 5 ай бұрын
Someone on reddit was fully convinced adult Geto could wash Toji, so i suppose there are some people who do downplay both of them
@avantblade
@avantblade Жыл бұрын
the diff in their fighting styles is that toji is an assassin and maki if a brawler. Maki would walk someone down, but toji would come from the back
@DungEnjoyerr
@DungEnjoyerr Жыл бұрын
English please
@donne1775
@donne1775 Жыл бұрын
I'd let Maki walk me down
@captainb.mccrea5480
@captainb.mccrea5480 Жыл бұрын
He fights smarter, and then still destroys when it comes to a front on fight 😂
@Evil-V
@Evil-V 11 ай бұрын
Yeah it's just Toji wanna kill effortlessly his targets with higher chances to succeeding to make his job easier. But I guess he wanna fight Gojo once to prove he's still worthy or had some use in the Zen'in clan. If he left his pride aside and had done his job as he always did, he could kill Gojo in their first encounter and finish his job faster. Toji would become just like Maki in the long run if he wouldn't have met his wife or hadn't Megumi in his life.
@JustMalik19
@JustMalik19 11 ай бұрын
​@@donne1775bro
@JGD44
@JGD44 Жыл бұрын
Gojo and Geto were already special grade by their second year. So Toji actually took on two special grade sorcerers
@YoutubSosetXui
@YoutubSosetXui 8 ай бұрын
GigaChad behaviour
@RayTheomo
@RayTheomo Жыл бұрын
I think Maki should really train Yuji. And make him on par or slightly below their level of physical prowess. That way Yuji lives up to all the potential put on him by the story so far.
@belovedxx5283
@belovedxx5283 11 ай бұрын
Yuji with a nasty cursed tool would be sick ngl
@darthcaliginous2066
@darthcaliginous2066 8 ай бұрын
Training won’t equate him to something they were born with
@JjayDdee
@JjayDdee Жыл бұрын
Don’t mean to be that guy but U forgot toji’s greatest weapon his glock
@greenpooljama
@greenpooljama Жыл бұрын
what i would want to see done as a video would be explaining the in depth stuff about jjk like the sky maneuvering that high tiers like maki and toji and sukuna and gojo somehow know about, and just some implied things that fans of the series know but the average causal reader wouldn’t. similar to a jjk iceberg of sorts
@volktol4432
@volktol4432 Жыл бұрын
As for gojo, he can just fly/levitate and teleport, for the other 3 my belief is that they “air walk” as they kick the air with enough pressure to force themselves forwards or whichever direction they want (similar to Sanji from one piece) but the air walk thing isn’t confirmed from what I know
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 Жыл бұрын
​@volktol4432 i mean sukuna literally quick stepped into air against yorozu Remember the "tap tap tap" XD
@darkerdaemon7794
@darkerdaemon7794 Жыл бұрын
It said too that Mai took all of Makis cursed energy with her, so technically Makis heavenly restriction isnt subpar to Tojis anymore. Oh, and Maki didnt "react" to Naoyas top speed. She predicted it in advance, which i mean would entail critical thinking and fast mental processing but it doesnt necessarily mean shes able to match Naoyas speed physically.
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 Жыл бұрын
1 maki never had cursed ebergy, mai had And twins are treated like one being Thus mai's CE limited maki 2 predicting an attack means nothing if u cant match the speed Best example ever is sasuke vs lee Sasuke literally saw every move lee would make but got dogwalked cuz he didn't have the speed
@darkerdaemon7794
@darkerdaemon7794 Жыл бұрын
@@blu3d3vil97 Uh, it even states in this very video that Maki does indeed have CE. She just had the same amount as a normal human would. Likewise, prediction literally means guessing. Her knowing where he would be in advance because of trajectory. You don't need to move the same speed as something in order to catch it. How else do you think baseball players hit 100mph balls or catch them? What about those people shooting bb pellets and cutting them with swords? Do you really think they are moving 100mph to catch them?
@landendrake
@landendrake Жыл бұрын
⁠@@blu3d3vil97 Under the premise that twins are essentially one in the same being whatever Mai’s reserves were Maki has that amount as well.
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 Жыл бұрын
@landendrake3742 not really Maki had 0, she even states that And the fact she couldn't hurt curses without cursed tools proves it
@darkerdaemon7794
@darkerdaemon7794 Жыл бұрын
@@blu3d3vil97 In your head canon, maybe. But not in the actual canon at all. Regular humans all have cursed energy, do they not? How do you think curses are formed otherwise? Maki had very little cursed energy just like a human, she just had no curse techniques and further you can kill curses without cursed energy the issue is they just keep coming back because CE or a CT is the only way to kill them for good. The show directly tells you this in regards to maki. She couldn't do heavenly restriction prior because she had a miniscule amount of CE, hence why it's only possible after Mai dies and takes her CE with her, in return making her a weapon. Go back and watch the episodes where maki kills her clan and Mai dies, the narrator directly mentions her CE and how it was impeding her. As if she had none from the get go, even with Mai alive, she could've pulled a Toji way sooner and did a Heavenly Restriction. The issue was she did have the bare minimum of CE and therefore couldn't. And since her and Mai were twins, Mai got the cursed Techniques on top of the majority of cursed energy, though not all of it, they still had a split pool of CE, hence why Mai herself couldn't get stronger even if she had wanted to. Which she really didn't, Mai was just as stunted by them being twins as Maki was though Maki undoubtedly got the raw end of the deal.
@TheEthanGamer
@TheEthanGamer Жыл бұрын
Man, this is off topic here sorta, but i feel like Maki's development in this series is what shouldve been rock lee's development in Naruto. Rock Lee was a character just shafted to the side and that's so dissapponting because he had a lot of potential to stand with the main characters.
@butters461
@butters461 11 ай бұрын
People are downplaying Gigatoji and Charred badie??? Ain't no way
@MidnightPanik
@MidnightPanik 10 ай бұрын
No fr like both are good 💀mfs cant like something without comparing them Istg
@amirulaqashahamree7453
@amirulaqashahamree7453 11 ай бұрын
Toji and Maki are basically a ore of steel that no one ever want, other thought it was weak and fragile. Or so others thought, they forge,refined and sharpened to the point their weapons are formidable.
@The_Backman
@The_Backman 11 ай бұрын
Toji was able to outplay perhaps the strongest character in the verse. Imagine how many ass whooping's Maki's about to hand to whatever other poor soul comes across her?
@TangeniMunyama
@TangeniMunyama Жыл бұрын
Here's a video idea which is a ranking video of the 3 great clans' curse techniques. You could make 2, where in 1 you could explain each clans main curse techniques ( or split it into 3 videos) and a video ranking them from strongest to weakest.
@oguoriprogressoghenekaro1794
@oguoriprogressoghenekaro1794 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate u for posting regularly
@hellkingnyoa
@hellkingnyoa Жыл бұрын
Toji is my father Maki is my older demonic sister
@VedanshMishra-sp7wo
@VedanshMishra-sp7wo Жыл бұрын
Truly magnificent video and thanks for mentioning me
@VedanshMishra-sp7wo
@VedanshMishra-sp7wo Жыл бұрын
Jaded is like top jjk creator according to me
@Lumiere300
@Lumiere300 Жыл бұрын
Common Jaded W, Thumb clean ASF
@yaboiplank6764
@yaboiplank6764 Жыл бұрын
Toji vs Kenjaku is actually interesting considering kenjakus domain does not affect inanimate objects im referring to toji from hidden inventory
@shane2077
@shane2077 Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure with open domains they sacrifice the barrier in return for their sure hits to affect inanimate objects as well.
@quo9138
@quo9138 Жыл бұрын
@@shane2077 sacrificing the barrier means people can leave but the range is extended, not that inanimate objects are included. thats a sukuna thing
@shane2077
@shane2077 Жыл бұрын
@@quo9138 Ooo I see. Thanks for the clarification
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 Жыл бұрын
​@quo9138 tbf kenjaku did damage the environment BUT he was using the surehit on yuki Which as far as we know kenjaku cant target sure hit on zero CE
@quo9138
@quo9138 Жыл бұрын
@@blu3d3vil97 yeah the ground doesnt quake unless characters or blood is on it as far as i see so only CE probably
@HoneySyrupp
@HoneySyrupp Жыл бұрын
Underrated video! I loved it :3
@JadedSatoru
@JadedSatoru Жыл бұрын
I love and appreciate that comment 😌
@ladybookworms
@ladybookworms Жыл бұрын
I’m on board with getting the cursed spirit into his stomach and all but getting it back out again I don’t want to imagine 😢
@barebevil.
@barebevil. Жыл бұрын
What they are able to do is a light exercise for a guy like me.
@RottenCowboy
@RottenCowboy Жыл бұрын
I was wondering if you think current Maki could beat Mahoraga with the Split Soul Katana? Could Mahoraga adapt to it or can Maki just striaght up one shot it?
@cxncien
@cxncien Жыл бұрын
She's too slow
@RottenCowboy
@RottenCowboy Жыл бұрын
@@cxncien i dont really remember any speed feats from mahoraga so its kinda hard to gauge, never the less it would be a cool to see an interaction with the Split Soul Katana and Mahoraga lol
@oreki8707
@oreki8707 11 ай бұрын
Nahh she will one shot mahoraga with the katana before it could adapt
@quasogod
@quasogod 11 ай бұрын
@@RottenCowboy smash the shit out of 15 fingers sukuna is already a feat
@crazagres1839
@crazagres1839 7 ай бұрын
@@quasogod Maki fought Sukuna Later then Maho and kept up anyway. They're relative, add Maki's pseudo future-sight to it and she now functionally has the speed advantage. She doesn't even need it, though. She literally just one shots with the soul split Katana.
@staticshocking9992
@staticshocking9992 4 ай бұрын
After watching this. I want a update soon on the current maki going toe to toe with sukuna
@MrWescottX
@MrWescottX 2 ай бұрын
King of curses vs woman with no CE
@Yurri1154
@Yurri1154 Жыл бұрын
ong ur spitting facts wth
@foxstrom3614
@foxstrom3614 9 ай бұрын
Wait, a 4-D storage space means that he can pull out any item that ever existed in the cursed chest spirit
@IIYamiSanII
@IIYamiSanII 9 ай бұрын
Yep
@UnifiedEntity
@UnifiedEntity Жыл бұрын
Hmm nah cant agree on the Naoya stuff. Just because youre on guard doesnt mean you are exactly ready for anything. Yuji was on guard fighting choso but had to adapt to piercing blood and get used to it however that looked.
@itsjustvin7630
@itsjustvin7630 11 ай бұрын
But Maki isnt Yuji
@UnifiedEntity
@UnifiedEntity 11 ай бұрын
@@itsjustvin7630 Doesn't matter, she was getting blitzed by Naoya at the start of both fights and had to adjust.
@itsjustvin7630
@itsjustvin7630 11 ай бұрын
@@UnifiedEntity less adjust and more clear her mind like what Yuji did with Todo and what Megumi did when he unlocked DE
@SlimShady-tc5mb
@SlimShady-tc5mb 9 ай бұрын
Maki is my fav JJK char, not because of her curse technique or combat capability But 2 simple power that made her one of the top tier in JJK, her mindset & mentality No excuses, 101% effort, and anti loser mentality
@1hundred1
@1hundred1 Жыл бұрын
Jaded W
@Anantinfinit
@Anantinfinit 8 ай бұрын
Maki :- more like a samurai. Toji:- like a ninja.
@hurtboychulo7371
@hurtboychulo7371 11 ай бұрын
Who would actually read this series and downplay these 2?!?!?
@mashaun2236
@mashaun2236 Жыл бұрын
I don’t wanna hear it. Toji had to wear down a 16 year old before he even fought him. Toji lost to a a grade 1 16 year old
@mmb2089
@mmb2089 11 ай бұрын
To be fair, preawakened Gojo was still considered op to an extent and Toji's style leans more towards assassinations so it would make sense he'd wait until his target lets their guard down before striking.
@itsjustvin7630
@itsjustvin7630 11 ай бұрын
He wasn't grade 1 him and Gojo were already special grade even Yuki calls them special grade
@mmb2089
@mmb2089 11 ай бұрын
@@itsjustvin7630 Gojo became a special grade after figuring out rct basically making him a God and Geto became a special grade after the higher ups basically realized the sheer number of strong curses he absorbed. However, before the Toji fight they were at least high grade ones.
@itsjustvin7630
@itsjustvin7630 11 ай бұрын
@@mmb2089 was it ever stated
@michaeljohnson274
@michaeljohnson274 11 ай бұрын
It’s kinda unfair to say toji had to wear down gojo, then ignore that gojo fought a nerfed toji. Yes, toji nerfed himself but still nerfed nonetheless. Toji would lose to gojo but he didn’t need to wear him down it was simply just a precaution.
@adolforamos9518
@adolforamos9518 11 ай бұрын
then is make yuji's heveanly like toji's or maki's
@dsrn420
@dsrn420 Жыл бұрын
I think naoya being sub sonic wouldnt make him even close to gojo when he fought jogo and left te get yuji for a lesson, can we even calc that?
@rogar0x785
@rogar0x785 Жыл бұрын
That was probably teleportation
@Handsomeguy-kj2jg
@Handsomeguy-kj2jg Жыл бұрын
Definitely teleportation
@dsrn420
@dsrn420 Жыл бұрын
Could be teleportation or... gojo is that guy, the quake when he releases could mean its not exactly teleport but maybe closer to light speed travel.
@dsrn420
@dsrn420 Жыл бұрын
Remember all of us here making guesses are all going off head canon
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 Жыл бұрын
Gojo teleports
@leighlanddbzfan7127
@leighlanddbzfan7127 7 ай бұрын
Toji is basically a normal human no cursed technique,no cursed energy at all,no jujutsu and a heavily restriction yet he still beat gojo easily and almost killed him and even a young gojo is as strong as the earlier finger forms of sukuna so Toji is really impressive Maki has little cursed energy and a heavily restriction but still was able to go against special grade curses and live also managed to slaughter the whole zenin clan Maki is also impressive
@lezara4049
@lezara4049 7 ай бұрын
Normal human have cursed energy but can't use it to fight they can make cursed spirit tho Toji don't have any cursed energy Any at all Even normal human have a little but can't use
@cleomcallister3974
@cleomcallister3974 4 ай бұрын
i agree people love to downplay maki but she alone brought out sukunas black flash not even gojo was taken that seriously by the king of curses
@brunoglorvis1710
@brunoglorvis1710 Жыл бұрын
Ok but one thing I can NEVER understand … why isn’t toji detectable when he swallows the curse spirit ???? There is curse energy in his body now , obviously not his own , but there is a curse spirit inside him !!
@Purifi3r
@Purifi3r Жыл бұрын
Maybe because cursed energy cannot move through his body, so it can neither go in nor come out of his body.
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 Жыл бұрын
​@@Purifi3ractually there's a line talking how the body is like a domain and ce cant affect the inside unless an opening (wound) is made So, since swallowing it puts it in "his domain" maybe that is why
@brunoglorvis1710
@brunoglorvis1710 Жыл бұрын
@@blu3d3vil97 ohhhhhhhhh that actually kinda makes sense , I guess even tho toji can’t make a domain he still “has one” , ie his own body , but what always threw me off was where he says “an invisible man should have invisible guts” or something like that and I just found that so confusing like , I thought sorcerers could FEEL someone’s CE not just see it
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 Жыл бұрын
@brunoglorvis1710 they do feel cursed energy But a domain is a barrier, and just as an example the most basic barrier is a veil that sorcerers use so normal people dont see the destruction when they fight curses So barriers hide shit So, maybe the domain of one's body hides whatever is inside And we know cursed energy comes from the stomach
@itsjustvin7630
@itsjustvin7630 11 ай бұрын
​@@brunoglorvis1710case in point that Hollow purple that sukuna could not notice because of the barrier
@iqerst259
@iqerst259 7 ай бұрын
With prep time toji would slam maki, but without maki takes it
@donkey_mediocre7246
@donkey_mediocre7246 Жыл бұрын
And to think toji called gojo a monster sukuna and gojo are built deferent
@jackmakila3776
@jackmakila3776 Жыл бұрын
Gojo is built so differently that he got people calling Sukuna a fraud
@arnelsamson3023
@arnelsamson3023 Жыл бұрын
i just don't like maki double her strength in 5 minutes. then the sumo guy who help her just disappeared.
@arnelsamson3023
@arnelsamson3023 Жыл бұрын
hence she have 2 power ups.
@itsjustvin7630
@itsjustvin7630 11 ай бұрын
So it's fine when Yuji and Megumi gets that power up cuz all those two did was one had a talk from a person they just met to get a boost, and one had a flashback reflecting themselves to get a boost. But when Maki does both it's bad?
@arnelsamson3023
@arnelsamson3023 11 ай бұрын
@@itsjustvin7630 exactly dude. Megumi didn't have a power up. She does sumo in 5 minutes doubled her strength.
@zillva
@zillva 11 ай бұрын
She didn't actually get stronger or faster. Just cleared her mind, and got access to precognition
@ofimportance5458
@ofimportance5458 11 ай бұрын
@@zillvashe got stronger bruh
@kuyalon5325
@kuyalon5325 Жыл бұрын
One thing must be done and that is Gojo's death or defeat so the students stand up on their own against sukuna. Sukuna as the main villain have the plot armor against Gojo. But we all know Gojo can defeat SUkuna
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 Жыл бұрын
Gojo fanboys always crying plot armor when their favorite character is 99.98% plot armor
@shankiangdeleon5716
@shankiangdeleon5716 11 ай бұрын
@@blu3d3vil97wth you saying? Gojo is litterly against sukuna with mahoroga and megumis soul + the ten shadow technique
@Bori.1776
@Bori.1776 11 ай бұрын
@@shankiangdeleon5716Infinity is quite literally the biggest plot armor I’ve ever seen in any story.
@itsjustvin7630
@itsjustvin7630 11 ай бұрын
​@@Bori.1776but Sukuna having different techniques is not
@quasogod
@quasogod 11 ай бұрын
the irony in this reply section
@stefanocremonini2656
@stefanocremonini2656 11 ай бұрын
My issue with Maki isn't her strenght. She stole the RIGHTFUL VENGEANCE of Toji and she planned to kill Megumi.
@itsjustvin7630
@itsjustvin7630 11 ай бұрын
Uh have you not read the manga? She didnt plan on killing Megumi cuz he doesnt even care about being head of zen'in. And Toji wanted to prove himself to the zen'in. That's his mistake. Maki is his redemption
@juanescobar1735
@juanescobar1735 11 ай бұрын
​@@itsjustvin7630Not searching for revenge is a better choice than kill everylastone of the people who Hurt you. Toji was better than Maki in that regard
@itsjustvin7630
@itsjustvin7630 11 ай бұрын
@@juanescobar1735 so you want Kenjaku to take hold of the zen'in?
@Anantinfinit
@Anantinfinit 8 ай бұрын
​@@juanescobar1735toji would have done the same as maki if someone had killed his wife and son in front of him.
@juanescobar1735
@juanescobar1735 8 ай бұрын
@@Anantinfinit Probably.
@erenyeager3407
@erenyeager3407 7 ай бұрын
Imagine shipping Maki & Toji
@hotkoyoto
@hotkoyoto 11 ай бұрын
Here's the thing..If sukuna LITERALLY gives you a compliment. Then there should be no way in fucking hell anyone should be down playing them. Maki was one of the few people sukuna legitimately complimented. So if he's not down playing her. Why tf would ANYONE down play her? That's what got me confused. Sukuna sees literally all humans as trash, fodder, tools and food AT BEST. I bet the same people who down play her couldn't even bet her in an arm wrestling contest, pre-shibuya arc.
@GodsJoseph13
@GodsJoseph13 11 ай бұрын
Yolo
@ryankaze2809
@ryankaze2809 11 ай бұрын
Toji and maki are the coolest characters by far. U nerds are pressed for no reason. I swear anime fans sometimes lol so much anger
@KONSACZ
@KONSACZ Жыл бұрын
They are both great, both have 0 chance against Gojo and Sukuna.
@ejosjek52.87
@ejosjek52.87 11 ай бұрын
Didnt she tag team sukuna with yuji though?
@KONSACZ
@KONSACZ 11 ай бұрын
@@ejosjek52.87 He was playing with them like with kids
@juanescobar1735
@juanescobar1735 11 ай бұрын
And Sukuna was nerfed. Like, less than 20% of his power (And that was 15 finger Sukuna)
@zannchristo
@zannchristo 8 ай бұрын
​@@juanescobar1735nope, Megumi's body was messing with his CE output when he tries to do *cursed techniques* to hurt his friends. Sukuna was physically as capable and without using techniques, he was 100% ok
@Joaogabriel-ov8zs
@Joaogabriel-ov8zs 6 ай бұрын
As any other character lmao
@snavetv4129
@snavetv4129 Жыл бұрын
Maki still taking the win its even said she surpassed him
@Uwhwvwgwh
@Uwhwvwgwh Жыл бұрын
I don't think so there's age gap to
@snavetv4129
@snavetv4129 Жыл бұрын
@ademmmahmoudi9478 wym? The feats we seen tonight do doesn't compare to what maki has done and it even stated that she is now stronger than him
@Uwhwvwgwh
@Uwhwvwgwh Жыл бұрын
@@snavetv4129 I mean in real fight toji likely will assassinate her he is not brawler and he likely have more experience in the failed
@Uwhwvwgwh
@Uwhwvwgwh Жыл бұрын
@@snavetv4129 but face to face i think he lose it will be hared fight for sure but he lose because maki is more in the brawler said
@itsjustvin7630
@itsjustvin7630 11 ай бұрын
​@@Uwhwvwgwhso should we get another regurgitating chapter
@rogar0x785
@rogar0x785 Жыл бұрын
Yuji has the potential to surpass toji/maki physically
@dariuswilliams7509
@dariuswilliams7509 Жыл бұрын
Yes His physical prowess already is close as we saw he could keep up with maki. So now we'll see if his curse energy output can get on the level of a special grade sorcerer
@DungEnjoyerr
@DungEnjoyerr Жыл бұрын
Nuh huh🤓
@rogar0x785
@rogar0x785 Жыл бұрын
@@DungEnjoyerr he is already relative to maki .
@ebola52
@ebola52 Жыл бұрын
​@@rogar0x785 from what we have seen it seems to imply she is above him but he does have potential to surpass Maki/Toji. Not saying she would win in a fight cause we haven't fully seen what yuta can do I believe. If its just what we have seen maki stomps
@rogar0x785
@rogar0x785 Жыл бұрын
@@ebola52 am talking about yuji not yuta
@user-ui3jo1um8b
@user-ui3jo1um8b 4 ай бұрын
no domain = weak
@wishub
@wishub 11 ай бұрын
its annoying when people say "... and he/she did that without ce" when they have heavenly restrictions that more than make up for their lack of ce
@ak99-to1gz
@ak99-to1gz Жыл бұрын
I think people down playing Toji are idiots. He one shoted Gojo.
@zillva
@zillva 11 ай бұрын
Gojo took 4 hits though lmao. Also, he was caught off guard with infinity down, meaning his durability was effectively the same as any normal human at the time. Then inverted soear of heaven shuts down his infinity and does the same. Its not an impressive strength feat. Only speed fir being able to move around without teen Gojo who hadn't slept for 3 days
@juanescobar1735
@juanescobar1735 11 ай бұрын
A Tired Gojo who was pretty weak compared with the Actual Gojo
@quasogod
@quasogod 11 ай бұрын
yall toji fanboys must stop pulling out this thing as a feat bro, it's a exhausted inexperienced gojo from 11 years ago 💀
@juanescobar1735
@juanescobar1735 11 ай бұрын
@@quasogod 12*
@B0x_T00l
@B0x_T00l 5 ай бұрын
​@@quasogodThat was already considered the strongest sorcerer...
@SantiagoOXfir
@SantiagoOXfir Жыл бұрын
So maki is stronger than Todo.? I don’t think so
@samuraitadpole5459
@samuraitadpole5459 Жыл бұрын
Boogie woogie is just so debilitating, so almost every character will struggle with him
@SantiagoOXfir
@SantiagoOXfir Жыл бұрын
@@samuraitadpole5459 no I’m talking strength not ability prowess like blow for Blow even though she’s a 2 I believe todo is stronger than her
@samuraitadpole5459
@samuraitadpole5459 Жыл бұрын
@Khaliq Bryson nah, I doubt that. Nothing that can compare them but Maki is stronger, that's the best advantage of heavenly restriction
@SantiagoOXfir
@SantiagoOXfir Жыл бұрын
@@samuraitadpole5459 I understand it’s absolute the restrictions so her brute strength is stronger than. His understood
@samuraitadpole5459
@samuraitadpole5459 Жыл бұрын
@Khaliq Bryson thank goodness because that was legit the only reasoning I could think of atm
@yaboiplank6764
@yaboiplank6764 Жыл бұрын
maki v Sukuna confirms Toji>Yuta i wonder if maki can speedblitz yuta like sukuna speedblitzed Ryu cuz Yuta thinks to himself that Ryu was really fast but this was before he got the 5minutes amp but even after that he didnt seem to blitz anyone altough he did cover the ground between him and Ryu before ryu could do much aside from shoot a granite blast at him
@desto1203
@desto1203 Жыл бұрын
Calm down maki is strong but not that strong
@ebola52
@ebola52 Жыл бұрын
​@@desto1203 yuta isn't that strong either in regards to sukuna. They are comparable until we see something to prove otherwise.
@ryerollsrye824
@ryerollsrye824 Жыл бұрын
I have benn always saying that lol you were one of those Yuta > 15 finger merchant
@yaboiplank6764
@yaboiplank6764 Жыл бұрын
@@ryerollsrye824 no
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 Жыл бұрын
​@@ebola52except sukuna was heavily nerfed Id say maki is definitely faster than yuta Based on the interaction between yuji and naoya(blitzed yuji) and yuta wasn't able to do so
@Lobotom1zed
@Lobotom1zed 10 ай бұрын
Toji got that strap on him
@n.harewood3846
@n.harewood3846 Жыл бұрын
I think Maki is on the way to being as strong if not stronger than Toji, Once she gets more experience in having her new HR she'll be much stronger then Toji
@captainb.mccrea5480
@captainb.mccrea5480 Жыл бұрын
Doubt
@zillva
@zillva 11 ай бұрын
She is already as strong as Toji, bare minimum. After the timeskip, she is likely stronger
@juanescobar1735
@juanescobar1735 11 ай бұрын
What timeskip?
@zillva
@zillva 11 ай бұрын
@@juanescobar1735 There was a 1 month timeskip like 15 chapters ago
@juanescobar1735
@juanescobar1735 11 ай бұрын
@@zillva in that time Maki will not become stronger by any mean..she already has her stronger form
@cxncien
@cxncien Жыл бұрын
After the episode of Toji vs Gojo... the popularity polls will show Toji being more popular than Maki, Gege took an L for giving her that personality😂😂😂 Miwa, Yuki and Mei are the only female characters i like in JJK, especially Yuki, quite an interesting monster😈.
@itsjustvin7630
@itsjustvin7630 11 ай бұрын
Now I still prefer Maki
@elijahwilson8990
@elijahwilson8990 Жыл бұрын
Bros goofy
@DungEnjoyerr
@DungEnjoyerr Жыл бұрын
Uh huh🤓
@ebola52
@ebola52 Жыл бұрын
Why's that?
@pardue23
@pardue23 Жыл бұрын
Nobody downs plays Maki and Toji is overrated as hell. Maki surpassed Toji durin her fight/training with Miyo. How about everyone has different interpretations of Tojia. His feats are controversial and contested. His fight with Gojo. He tired him out and waited until he was weak. His fight with Dagon. After fighting three first grade sorcerers and DE he was weak and low on energy. There’s nothing downplaying about analyzing Toji fights and coming to those conclusions.
@ryerollsrye824
@ryerollsrye824 Жыл бұрын
If you think Yuta or Yuki can beat Toji then you are downplaying them (like most people do) Narratively Toji is the 3rd/4th strongest Maki is nowhere as strong as Toji she inexperienced and new to this power and she doesn't have strong enough arsenal
@pardue23
@pardue23 Жыл бұрын
@@ryerollsrye824 No you’re overrating Toji by far. All he has over Yuta is at base being physically stronger. To reach that level of strength all Yuta has to do is reinforce his body with curse energy to match. Yuta and Rika will destroy him.
@ryerollsrye824
@ryerollsrye824 Жыл бұрын
@@pardue23 Toji literally blitzes Yuta Speed wise, Toji = Maki ~ 15 Finger Sukuna > Ryu ~ Yuta So your boi is too slow 😂 Alongside having speed advantage Toji also has enhanced senses, 2 one shot weapon, infinite range, higher battle IQ and high durability and more How can you say Yuta beats Toji ?
@pardue23
@pardue23 Жыл бұрын
@@ryerollsrye824 LMAO! Maki is nowhere near equal to 15f Skuna. Megumi was holding Sukuna back every time he tried to attack his friends. Sukuna output was less than 10 percent while fighting Yuji and Maki. That’s an extreme nerf for Sukuna. Megumi fought 3f Sukuna. When Toji attacked him he scaled him to a 3f Sukuna. If you want to scale Maki on the same level as Toji then there you go.
@ryerollsrye824
@ryerollsrye824 Жыл бұрын
@@pardue23 According to @Lightning446 Sukuna wasn't being nerfed speed wise, even Sukuna himself said that his movements were fine...
@guilha1506
@guilha1506 Жыл бұрын
Both are overrated asf in power but are goated characters
@dude5281
@dude5281 Жыл бұрын
Not really, can go hand to hand with a 15 finger sukuna sounds pretty strong to me
@guilha1506
@guilha1506 Жыл бұрын
@@dude5281 Little detail, he had less than 10% of his power
@dude5281
@dude5281 Жыл бұрын
@@guilha1506 little detail that only effected his curse technique
@guilha1506
@guilha1506 Жыл бұрын
@@dude5281 Output affects your reinforcement that affects your stats
@dude5281
@dude5281 Жыл бұрын
@@guilha1506 it only effected output when he tried to use hus cursed technique
@yoshiirosavage1833
@yoshiirosavage1833 Жыл бұрын
Toji >> Maki, the man has finesse, something that Maki lacks. Because of his experience and arsenal, he will always be stronger than Maki. Maki would’ve never thought about breaking the playful cloud like Toji did, Toji always knows what to do in every situation and he probably has tools for every different situation.
@landendrake
@landendrake Жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel like that’s a key moment for me. Maki basically being a notable weapons specialist but being surprised by Toji’s utilization of playful cloud like she would’ve never thought of that.
@mmb2089
@mmb2089 11 ай бұрын
Exactly, I hate how people overrate Maki when she's just Toji lite at best.
@juanescobar1735
@juanescobar1735 11 ай бұрын
The manga say Maki is equal to Toji. Thats the author who say it. Toji had more experience, thats all
@OriginalGacole
@OriginalGacole 8 ай бұрын
​@@juanescobar1735 mayne physically but that's it
@Cyanduck485
@Cyanduck485 10 ай бұрын
Maki is underrated and a top 10 of all time Toji is the opposite
@Chicken-nugg
@Chicken-nugg 10 ай бұрын
What do you mean
@IIYamiSanII
@IIYamiSanII 9 ай бұрын
Mach 3 = Supersonic.
@R3IsL
@R3IsL 11 ай бұрын
Weak asf, both getting one shot by random frieza soldier's from dbz teehee haha
@zannchristo
@zannchristo 8 ай бұрын
The whole DBZ verse loses to a bored Giorno Giovanna
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