Do you mean put a whole can of seafoam in the oil or a half can ?.

I use sea foam, one oz per qt of oil, mine is good for the 1st 1000 miles then it starts using a little bit between 2 and 3000 then it's time to do the procedure again. My engine has the oil consumption fixed ring job by dealership at 110k,this is after an additional 70000 miles. I have 205k now.

And always use full synthetic oil. Helps to keep it cleaner and less if any sludge build up

Called recently they claim recall has expired

@Malcolm Allan yup, I have been watching on instaflixxer for years myself :)

@Malcolm Allan yea, I've been watching on instaflixxer for since december myself :D

@Malcolm Allan definitely, have been watching on instaflixxer for months myself :D

You make it sound so easy

Totally agree. The worst design of a pcv valve I've ever seen in my life. Horrible engine and transmission. GMC disaster, Money pit.

This system does not function the same a typical PCV system with regulated valve. At idle, air is drawn from the air plenum into crankcase and through the intake orifice. Under load and open throttle the flow is reversed. Excess blow-by is drawn out of the crankcase through the air plenum and pass the throttle body. I have completed extensive pressure and vacuum testing of this system. Owners need to keep the moisture and oil emulsion drained in the PCV tube and reservoir during cold months and test the orifice for carbon build-up.

PVC Valve or PVC system is same as used in all other cars ever made PVC stands for Positive Crankcase Ventilation same concept as a house plumbing system you can not move fluid in a closed system so outside air or vent has to be incorporated into system to allow fluids to flow

what he said. 😀

​@@willSmith-fs5bethere is no "valve" in this pcv system. As stated, under acceleration, the oil is pulled into the air intake and burned off. This is all in conjunction with the direct injection and VVT crap they thought was a great idea. I've been fighting this problem on my 2.5 equinox and my 3.6 Acadia.

06 Chevy HHR 2.4l is using loads of oil

Something different for the hhr. Are you sure you don’t have a leak?

*Headsup after three dealer failures on the "oil monitoring program" they rebuild the top end for free under warranty.*

If gm recommends 5W-30 but it always burns fast and your saying I should use thicker oil, which thicker oil do you recommend ?

Yea i looked into this recently, and there's still no info on how or when any owners will be reimbursed or cars fixed. So far, I've been told, if we fix it, we have to pay 8500, and GM will reimburse up to 3500.

I have a 2015 and its doing the same but was told mine isn't part of the class action lawsuit

@@jasonostrus9994 Update on mine. Back in March it qualified for the recall out here in Canada, so I basically got a new engine :)

@@srose2428 That's a crazy amount to pay we better off buying another car.

@@kevystead hey Kevin, I'm from Canada as well. Did you buy this car new? I've bought a 2013 used. Not sure if GM will pay for this repair.

15k

Yes

It works.

Look up service bulletin 14882. GM replaced the pistons and rings but it still didn't resolved the issue 100%. These ecotec engines burn a shit ton of oil. You can do this to clean it out and then install an oil catch can to prevent oil/sludge/water from going back into the throttle body/intake manifold. Plus do oil changes every 3000 miles.

Hear, hear! Longtime GM diehard for 25 years, and I just traded in the newest GM vehicle I've ever owned on a Toyota. Even with an extended warranty on the car, GM refused to acknowledge the engine had blow-by. Reason being that the brand-new 2019 loaner I was put in had the same symptoms, fresh off the truck with 4 miles on the odometer. Have pics and video to prove everything. I don't plan to buy GM, or any of the Big Three for that matter, in the foreseeable future. They cut corners to ensure profitability on lowest bidder contracts with government agencies and rental car companies, and could care less what happens once the vehicle's out of warranty.

@@anonymousinc6330I have been a Chevy guy all my life. I'm DONE! I would rather pay 10k more for a vehicle that will last 200-300k miles. Anything Chevy after 2010 is garbage. Thanks for your comment and have a great Thanksgiving.

@@maces1405 Precisely the reason I am in debt to the tune of $25k for a Toyota Camry that retailed for $15k. It's still a damn sight better than a three-year-old Malibu that had symptoms of engine and transmission problems that likely wasn't going to last long enough to pay off. I had an extended warranty that I paid $2,500 extra for, and GM still wouldn't admit there was something wrong with it. EXTREMELY disappointed in the Big Three as of late, especially GM.

My 2007 hhr has been great but our 2011 gmc terrain is junk.

There are some decent GM cars/trucks, but recently few and far for long term reliability.

Yes.

this is a shot in the dark, it might be your issue, everyone having serious oil consumption has blown piston rings

Me too. I need them back. Not everything on KZfaq is worth something nor should have them even be posted. GMC Terrain or Equinox oil consumption has only one way that can be fixed: "new piston rings".

you may have a bigger issue, a piston seal. but it is worth trying as a piston ring fix is $1000s

I have a 12 GMC Terrain too. It is an oil sucking pig. I doubt this helped any. Has 183,000 just did all timing components too.

Get a oil catch can and see if that work

You need to do a piston soak in each cylinder. Remove spark plugs. Then pour in an ounce of marvels mystery oil. Let it soak overnight. Crank engine over a few times and replace plugs. Start engine and go for a drive .oil consumption should stop. This cleans piston rings of gunk.. charge oil soon after. Worked for me...

@@jimdamiani1823 i really appreciate you sharing this info. My family is all on drugs and I've been homeless on my own since i was 15. I saved up working landscaping jobs, made a down payment this 2016 chevy equinox and now I'm simply worried it'll all be for nothing and I'll go back the the bushes behind Ralphs. Hoped the 2016 and newer models had the issue fixed a bit but it doesn't seem to be the case based on complaints. Really hoping for the best. Appreciate you 💯

@@casterakabadman805 if you don't have a problem now, make sure to change the oil frequently. I thought I heard 2015 was last year with the problem...

@@casterakabadman805 Hate to give you bad news, but it's the gen2 GDI (gasoline direct injection). This design ended production in the 2017 model year. Like Jim said, if you're not experiencing issues now, change your oil every 3000 miles, no question. Use dexos (many brands on amazon with dexos) and a high quality filter.. none of the cheap fram stuff. If it costs too much at your shop, do it yourself to save $. Check your oil when gassing up too.. High maintenance, but you sound like you need to get some life out of it. That'll help a lot. I never used to be so picky about oil and filters, but modern engines use them to bandaid over design flaws. Sucks, I know.. Good luck.

Its the outside of the engine. 99.8% of all engines look like this or worse on the outside. You are more than welcome to was and dress the outside of your engine if you would like. Pull something off like the valve cover and that will tell you a lot about how the engine was maintained. Sludge and discoloration will show indicating breathing issues or for maintenance.

You can't because the "little hole" is built into the intake. If it is plugged, you get oil out the breather side from the blow-by. You can catch that but it's not salving the blow-by or the plugged PCV hole on the intake. An easy test for the PCV hole is kzfaq.info/get/bejne/odSehLpy2daUmZ8.html I had excessive blow-by and the dealer wanted $4200 to re-ring. Seafoam to the rescue! I did this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jrWiiZRirdWWg58.html

There's a law settlement for this and you can get your 2.4l engine repair at no charge as long as your car is not over the warranty, 7 years or 120k miles which ever comea first

Eric Munoz correct but you can only get reimbursed for repairs made while owning the vehicle. My gfs Equinox just missed the 7.5 year mark 😑.

@@ericmunoz1680 weres the link to it?

@@rhurtadorh32 I did my claim thru mail when i receive the letter if you didnt receive one go to any GMC dealer theyll add you to it all gmc dealer are aware about it now

If you get oil collected in you intake manifold, you definitely have a bigger issue...cleaning the oil from the manifold will not fix it.

Actually upon further investigation I would do this cleaning but during reassembly I would install an oil catch can, I think this would be a good work around. Of course it depends on how often you have to go in there to dump the oil. Makes me wonder if there is any way to encourage the oil back into the engine automatically.

@@verohandymike It isn't actually oil per say. It is a mixture of oil vapor and condensation and what ever else the air filter did not catch that is in the heads of the motor. The stuff that ends up in the intake is not something you want going back into your motor. This is what also cakes up your throttle body. I run dual catch cans on my 08 Silverado and the shit that ends up in it I definitely do not want back in the engine.

That's exactly what is dirty oily condensate.Do not add it back into your engine.

Manifold just cracked last week had mechanic tell me cat was on its way out also $225 manifold $445 catalytic 7.5 hours labor(charged me For 5) $8.99 mani gasket $70 tax = $1181 😩Gmc 2.4l Engine is 🗑! Oil consumption is Insane 😳 1500 -2000 miles n it's Gone 😠

Actually just one problem of many.

@@a3300000 Cat was (should have been) covered by GM special warranty coverage....so is the power steering, this orifice here, wiper trans and p0300 misfire.

@@rontam06 I have 150k miles on a 2013 GMC Terrain with the 2.4l. In 3,000 miles it uses about 1/4 of a quart. I use the same brand of oil all the time. Worst thing that you can do for oil control on an engine is to use whatever oil that the station or parts store sells. Conoco and Pennzoil additive package may not be compatible. I also have a 2002 Chevy Trailblazer with the 4.2 6 cylinder that has 310k miles on it, it has used the same brand and package since 50k miles. In college I took a Fuels And Lubricant class. We got a firsthand look at a Chevy small block that had whatever oil in it since new. It only had 40k miles on it and was totally worn out. The crankshaft was shot, could not be turned, the cylinders could not be bored. Hello from north east Montana. 10 miles from the Canadian border.

@@rontam06 nothing like charging 5 hours of work for things that take less than an hour

Rebuilding the engine

You really know your stuff Jimmy. You are 💯 percent right. There is a TSB but scumbag dealerships will do anything to avoid doing the right thing. I have bought GM all my life and after 30 years I am done. I guess I will give up and buy Toyota

​@@eliasfernandez9966like Toyota doesn't have oil.consumption lawsuits either. 2016 Camry, 4 cylinder cough cough. Literally at the same time of this 4 cylinder. I rebuild them at work all the time. Oil changes are and OIL LEVEL CHECKS ARE ESSENTIAL

Make a video

@@jamesflenory9108 l have been told I'm a good wrencher, but too make a video would be challenging. There are several videos on how to drill the intake with out removing it! I have done my 2015 equinox 2.4 and it worked perfectly. Better than removing the intake a bit off the engine like l mentioned earlier, anytime you can eliminate removing components like the high pressure fuel pump, and other associated parts is definitely a win Gm sells a vented oil filler cap. I was nervous drilling into my intake manifold to clean the PVC orifice, but it was easy, took like 20 minutes top end mine was definitely had carbon buildup l don't think it was completely plugged up but definitely there was carbon in the orifice. Because after my engine was revving 1600 cold before 1500 warm was 850 before 750 after a about 80 km it returned to 1500 cold 750 warm as the ecm adjusted the slight increase in air entering the intake manifold. As for the catch can l mount mine so it is below the radiator hose on passenger side because everything flows out of the rocker cover into the can no place to collect in the hose and directly up to the air box no place to collect. In the summer months l have basically nothing in the can once a month maybe 1/2 ounce, in winter it's full of moisture l need to empty it every 2 weeks.

@@jimmykulik3438 thanks for the advice I’ll keep a eye on it and look out for that problem

It was at 75 k I had to replace solenoids timing chain kit and cam phaser and all that . It might’ve went before you bought it . These engines are 💩 . They can go pretty much anytime after 25k

I think GM installed the higher tension rings in everything in 2015 to reduce the oil consumption issues. It just took 5 years before all the complaints started coming in from owners about these Direct injection engines. I'm assuming that the engines before 2015 with the weaker rings after being subjected to heat and mileage are the ones that are consuming oil. Most of the owners with the 2010 to 2014 are having the oil consumption issues.

@@jimmykulik3438 from what I’ve heard and seen it goes to 2017 . . Like I said I had 2016 and had serious oil consumption issues . I got rid of it .

@@vincetortoloni5108 thanks for that information, l heard that 2015 was the year for the implementation of high tension rings ,but you could be correct. Gm is slow to update issues l guess they think they're engineers are never wrong 🙄 l have a 2015 and it burns no oil, l went 3000km and it was exactly where the level was, but l do have it in tune, and a oil catch can just to reduce the oil pcv vapors. But l removed my mass air sensor last week and with a scope checked the intake valves and they looked great and l had no oil in the bottom of the intake, l guess I got a good one. I have 970,00km and lm using mobile 1 synthetic oil and mobile 1 synthetic oil filter. I guess time will tell if she starts eating oil l will send it packing! So far so good l do love the fuel economy and for a 4 cylinder it actually pulls good. Thanks for your input.

@@jimmykulik3438 I’m happy for you . I loved that truck otherwise .

Hmmm. Yes, best solution.

I put one on my 2010 terrain hasn't helped with oil consumption but my hope is it'll help reduce damage to the pistons. Also catch cans are good for direct injection engines as it helps keeps the valves cleaner(as I recal).

That didn't work with my wife's 2.4L.

Update to all with oil consumption problems.. when pvc orifice got clogged oil became extremely black with carbon. After I cleaned orifice, oil stayed clean but still had bad oil consumption. I recommend doing a piston soak in each cylinder with seafoam or mmo. Bad oil clogs oil rings. Soaking will clean carbon on rings. My equinox now burns no oil. Several people post how to soak. Look up and give it a try...

wow. thanks for all the info. I will be looking at doing the drains. I will do a video on any more fixes that I do to the car.

PriorToImpact I've learned all of this stuff the hard way; a few thousand miles after a major warranty repair the trouble started and the same dealer wanted $5,700 to shoot the parts cannon at my car, with no guarantee of the result. At one point they claimed the engine was blown because they couldn't diagnose a weak battery, which prevented the car from starting (they never considered testing and recharging or replacing the battery). I towed it home, put in a new battery and it cranked right up, but ran badly and with every possible warning light on. I then taught myself how to diagnose and repair these engines. Believe it or not, when these engines work, they reportedly can work very well for a long time. My take on what I have learned is to look for the simplest possible solution to a problem with these engines, not the most expensive. Something like one bad ground will send any GM vehicle into a computer-caused tailspin, but especially the Equinoxes with the 2.4L engines. If your vehicle had the dealer-performed replacement of the chain for the water pump/balance shafts, they were not paid to replace the cam timing chain and its tensioner, which have to be removed to do the warranty repair, and if the dealer cut corners in replacing the cam timing chain, it is likely that they trashed the delicate cam timing chain tensioner in doing so. The damage to that tensioner takes a few thousand miles to screw up the engine big time, and cannot be correctly diagnosed without removing and disassembling the chain tensioner. Ask me how I know. Again, thanks for your video.

BS. Trade that turd in on an import. You can waste your free time trying to Band-Aid a POS the manufacturer will not stand behind, but I refuse to. As Riggs and Murtaugh said, "I'm getting too old for this shit." No one should have to do this kind of work on a vehicle less than 15-20 years old. Had several 2.8/3.1/3.4/3.8/4.3 GM V6 powered vehicles, all well over 200,000 miles, and none of them ever needed work on the timing chain, tensioner, or needed the piston rings sweet-talked to stop burning oil. At 84k, my 2016 has so much pressure in the rocker cover that it will coat the top side of the right fender completely in about 30 seconds at idle. The transmission and CV axles are having problems as well. GM lies and says this is not out of spec, and I have five years left to pay on this turd. I will never buy another GM vehicle built after 93 unless it is 3800 powered.

From what I heard it’s equinox and terrains from 2010 -2017 . They either fixed it with the new ones or enough time hasn’t passed to shed light on the problem 🤷‍♂️

I have to say I have two GMC cars. A 2006 Canyon with 5 cylinders engine and 367K miles and a 2013 Terrain with a 2.4 engine and 62K miles. Both are running ok so far. Of course, maintenance plays a good role on the longevity of the cars. I have used on both cars only synthetic oil and replace it every 5K miles along with filter. Additionally my son is a professional mechanic and he does other maintenance tasks as needed.

Ford isnt so great either just saying

Early Ford trucks were terrific (except for rust). New Ford stuff is just as bad as GM

Actually, they're inline 4-cylinder engines. but yes, they are junk. When I unload the 2016 EcoTurd I got suckered into, I will never buy another GM vehicle built after 1993 unless it is 3800-powered.

Yea thats why the 2.4 litre is dead. I unfortunately own a 2012 terrain love the car but i got the dreaded cracked exhaust manifold which is also common on these 2.4L and i burn oil bleh😒😒

Over the past 25 years, GM has begun systematically crippling and phasing out every good engine they had in their lineup. One of GM's biggest mistakes was dumping the old 2.2 OHV of 1991-2002 to roll out the POS known as EcoTec. The 2.2 OHV did have the occasional head gasket failure, but it was still a much better engine than the EcoTec. The OHV 2.2L of 1991-2002 never had the piston and ring failure issues noted with the EcoTec. Even bigger mistake was to ditch the OHV 60-degree for the timing-chain muncher known as the 3.6L. Bigger still, dropping the 3800. They now cut corners to pander to lowest bidder contracts with government agencies and rental car companies. They couldn't care less about John Q Public being satisfied with their vehicle once it's out of warranty. I just traded a 2016 Malibu with an EcoTec for a 2015 Camry, and I don't plan to buy GM again in the near future.