Stop ignoring the BEST Sidearm in Destiny 2 PvP

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Maven

3 ай бұрын

These are the BEST kind of sidearms in Destiny 2, but nobody uses them! Everyone is so hooked on The Drang and Heliocentric QSC, meanwhile rapid-fire sidearms such as Mykel's Reverence, Punching Out, and Fioritura-59 have a much more consistent TTK and forgiveness.
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@MavenPhoenix
@MavenPhoenix 3 ай бұрын
Here's that video from @drewskyschannel I mentioned: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lc-qdZdizNeuYWg.html&ab_channel=Drewsky Also do you guys want me to do more pvp stuff on this channel? lmk!
@legendxcarisso
@legendxcarisso 3 ай бұрын
You know I ran into you in Trials. You mowed me down with some XIM/Chronus bullshit sidearm, but it felt good to add YOUR name to the list of victims my Lubrae's Ruin feasted on.
@MavenPhoenix
@MavenPhoenix 3 ай бұрын
@@legendxcarisso I don't remember dying to Lubrae's Ruin this weekend. Maybe that was a different Maven? But hey, GG if we did play!
@agamerjourney9146
@agamerjourney9146 3 ай бұрын
Not true range is important on sidearms more then stability. Anybody that’s good at pvp can land there shots with decent stability.
@agamerjourney9146
@agamerjourney9146 3 ай бұрын
Each sidearm archetype is good in this archetype. Rapid not being popular because of there perk rolls. Many just don’t have good enough perks list for pvp.
@agamerjourney9146
@agamerjourney9146 3 ай бұрын
Range so important and not every sidearm going be use at same range. Drang more popular because it’s craftable with enhance perks.
@jblaze1678
@jblaze1678 3 ай бұрын
John Rambo here. Saw this sidearm video pop up in my feed and had to check it out. I have 30k kills on my fools remedy now. I picked it up from iron banner one day and could never put it down. Been waiting forever for them to bring it back so I can get a better roll. My roll has iron grip and 100 stability. I think fools remedy also has the highest aim assist of the rapid fires. Thanks for the shout out!
@MavenPhoenix
@MavenPhoenix 3 ай бұрын
Ayyy ggs. I matched you in trials quite a bit and you inspired me to try your build! I snagged quick flawless with it on Jav. Now that Mountaintop is coming back and they are un-nerfing the airborne effectiveness nerf, are u gonna use that over Witherhoard?
@zigzag2370
@zigzag2370 2 ай бұрын
Yeah remedy is nuts with the right rolls don't waste time on damage perks sure they make your kills faster but if you focus your efforts on consistency the gun performs really well without damage perks. I found that pairing fools remedy with witherhoard and having as much handling and range as possible then you can just tag the enemy with the witherhoard damage wether it's direct hit or the ground doesn't matter it's just the damage bc one tick of witherhoard makes the rapid fire sidearms chew threw the rest of their health extremely fast. I've got somewhere between 10 and 15k kills on fools remedy and 3k kills on witherhoard 😅 but I haven't played PVP seriously in about 2 years bc of the state of crucible 😢😢
@zigzag2370
@zigzag2370 2 ай бұрын
Now something I've been unable to get my hands on is punching out with harmony.... Get the witherhoard kill proc harmony get the harmony kill witherhoard reloads start over.... Sounds gimmicky tho.... There was an arc one of these from the season of plunder I can't recall the name for the life of me . But that one rolls with volt shot which in pve I think is my favorite way to play with the witherhoard combo since witherhoard is great for triggering jolt damage constantly and you get the jolt buff from the sidearm ❤🎉 and there is a void one that has destabilizing rounds and repulsor brace which is really good with briarbinds
@ethanlee4910
@ethanlee4910 2 ай бұрын
I need to pick mine up again, fun type of sidearms.
@matthatter3353
@matthatter3353 3 ай бұрын
You’ve become one of my fav D2 KZfaqrs whether it’s PvE or PvP. Always fun and knowledgeable videos 🙌🏽
@MavenPhoenix
@MavenPhoenix 3 ай бұрын
thanks ^.^
@LTAldoRaine7
@LTAldoRaine7 3 ай бұрын
Dude for real! Maven is a beast!
@masterofnone453
@masterofnone453 3 ай бұрын
Congrats on the subs! Loved that bloober real. Lag is truly insane
@WAHRGOHLBRAHGOHL
@WAHRGOHLBRAHGOHL 3 ай бұрын
Fioritura with Hip-Fire Grip and Offhand Strike feels absolutely amazing.
@MavenPhoenix
@MavenPhoenix 3 ай бұрын
I've been farming for that!
@mbk0mbk
@mbk0mbk 3 ай бұрын
Damn I deleted it few months ago
@gabrielchen8836
@gabrielchen8836 3 ай бұрын
So like a sidearm version of last word?
@Oldgamer127
@Oldgamer127 3 ай бұрын
Have that roll with Arrowhead and Ricochet with Handling MW. Very sticky with crits and when offhand is active, stretches you out to like 20m before falloff.
@Jay-lz2wc
@Jay-lz2wc 3 ай бұрын
Ive genuinely focused about 400+ engrams at banshee trying to get a fullbore / extended mag /hipfire /offhand strike /range MW to run with mechaneers on hunter. Been farming since focusing became a thing, basically. I literally ONLY GOT ONE HIPFIRE/OFFHAND roll PERIOD
@MrDeworDie
@MrDeworDie 3 ай бұрын
I randomly dusted off an old Fool's Remedy with moving target/kill clip. I was absolutely shocked at how fast this thing melts. For once my hoarding actually did me some good.
@Semicolon42
@Semicolon42 3 ай бұрын
The blooper music was so good for that sequence. Good stuff!
@BlkZard
@BlkZard 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this! It gave me something to focus at the Gunsmith and I'm really liking it!
@corujariousa
@corujariousa 3 ай бұрын
I agree. One of the favorites I keep is THE FOOL'S REMEDY with high caliber rounds, hip fire grip, kill clip and range MW. Amazing PVP weapon! Drang remains a monster.
@bryanpratico4173
@bryanpratico4173 3 ай бұрын
Great vid. You've really got your data figured out. The spider women moves are pretty sick, too.
@sshroom7713
@sshroom7713 3 ай бұрын
Thanks! Some great Trials footage here!
@K2shadowfax
@K2shadowfax 3 ай бұрын
Some nice moves zipping around; I'm going to investigate the load out, and the sidearms, as mentioned! I already have everyone's current favourite Heliocentric 'heal clip / kill clip' which is great...though habit usually means a Drang...but, after this...vid, maybe it's time for a change! Thanks for sharing! GG and Cheers!
@gk66
@gk66 3 ай бұрын
Love your vids. Always tune in for your breakdown. Pls do both pvp & pve!
@unbarringframe9890
@unbarringframe9890 3 ай бұрын
Keep up the great work and congratts fore 30k ❤️🎉
@pennywolf4288
@pennywolf4288 3 ай бұрын
Not Maven's bloopers being better than my try hard mode hahaha
@martinpark9884
@martinpark9884 3 ай бұрын
I see you using Wishender Maven. Is that for trials only or is that always your pvp exotic of choice? I’m wondering what exotic to pair with one of these sidearms. Assuming you would always have an exotic in your primary/secondary slot for pvp?
@alexmurillo6468
@alexmurillo6468 3 ай бұрын
Love the vid Mav. Been spamming helio or keening on arc & forerunner. But I’ll definitely give a few rapid godies I have in the vault a spin!
@zukie8082
@zukie8082 3 ай бұрын
I did my best work this weekend with Rat King, as it turns out, but when I did lean into the Heal Clip/Kill Clip Heliocentric, it performed well, too. Loved the invis after a kill with the Rat King, though. I want more fireteams of 3 running it!
@MavenPhoenix
@MavenPhoenix 3 ай бұрын
3 rat kings is SO underused in trials
@repiv275
@repiv275 3 ай бұрын
What are you perks beside kill clip& killing wind... thx
@detrickz1295
@detrickz1295 2 ай бұрын
Is there a way to farm this sidearm? I paired it with my Hawkmoon and I love it.
@peteronji
@peteronji 2 ай бұрын
what bow are you using?
@ClyptonimusPrime_n64
@ClyptonimusPrime_n64 3 ай бұрын
I LOVE these side arms! Thanks for shining some light on them!
@LBD-man
@LBD-man 3 ай бұрын
I just pulled out my Fool's Remedy with a Quickdot, Ricochet rounds, moving target, & kill clip! Thanks for this video!!
@LTAldoRaine7
@LTAldoRaine7 3 ай бұрын
Curious what that TTK is on a Heliocentric with Precision Instrument?
@chrono2959
@chrono2959 3 ай бұрын
Great vid . Thank u 4 all u do.
@unknownzay6392
@unknownzay6392 3 ай бұрын
Congrats on 40k Maven!
@danielmcnabb9634
@danielmcnabb9634 3 ай бұрын
Ok soooooo if i have zen and kill clip i dont need range ? Better to go stability ?
@MortalSyn
@MortalSyn 3 ай бұрын
Fell in love with rapid fires with my Rangefinder/KC Punching Out and no my workhorse side are is a Zen/KC Fioritura roll I use in a Mechaneer’s PVP void build. Very good stuff
@223ndog
@223ndog 3 ай бұрын
Congrats on 40k subs. I was using necrochasm and kill clip and heal clip heliocentric in trials and it was melting faces. Great video.
@term3092
@term3092 3 ай бұрын
Love the vids ! Watching the gameplay made me think about using Foetracer with Ensnaring slam and Mykel's Reverence, since it's strand you slam someone and get 4x surges for your sidearm, sounds pretty good to me
@philipt2798
@philipt2798 3 ай бұрын
Good content! Recently switched to the heal clip/kill clip sidearm with the meta shift and it's unfair at times! I'll have to try out some rapid fires to see how they feel
@michaelinsc9724
@michaelinsc9724 3 ай бұрын
CONGRATULATIONS on 50k! Well deserved and earned! 💥💥💥💥💥💥
@ominousvagrant
@ominousvagrant 3 ай бұрын
Love your videos been using a hip fire kill clip fools remedy for years now. If it wasn't for the heal clip percision instrument helio I'd be using it. You've inspired me to break it out again !
@wethepeople8280
@wethepeople8280 3 ай бұрын
Mind sharing a fun link? And what your stat split? Your dive up time was very high. Sixth coyote yeah
@DARTHSKATER7
@DARTHSKATER7 3 ай бұрын
liminal vigil with kill clip and headstone is a monster. I love it
@jrgeek
@jrgeek 3 ай бұрын
Congrats on the 40k. Are you using airborn on the sidearm?
@pumellhorne
@pumellhorne 3 ай бұрын
Your bloopers are better than my best days on PvP 😅
@Dash277
@Dash277 3 ай бұрын
Good stuff here. I need a good pairing for my summoner though in the kinetic slot. Was thinking Buzzard or Boudica.
@herk8240
@herk8240 3 ай бұрын
Well, Watching this I checked the vault and have a Fool's Remedy with KC and moving target. I'll have to try it out when I get home. Thanks Maven
@Geist7920
@Geist7920 2 ай бұрын
This archetype has always felt the best to me. Fingers crossed some day i get one with vorpal. I love jumping supers with sidearms. Bow+sidearm forever 💘
@PluralRecursion
@PluralRecursion 3 ай бұрын
The black armory 4 burst from back in the day with Kill Clip was my absolute favourite. Was very sad to delete it when it got locked to 1600
@cleancutvision1330
@cleancutvision1330 Ай бұрын
Hi I actually have a Heliocentric qsc with Heal clip / Kill clip. Would that really be your God roll? Love your content. What about your PVE god roll for Fioritura-59 and Heliocentric?❤. I know Heliocentric is Lightweight frame btw
@Topszn_
@Topszn_ 3 ай бұрын
where does this drop from?
@GamesPlayingGames
@GamesPlayingGames 3 ай бұрын
Congrats on 40k. Well deserved!
@MavenPhoenix
@MavenPhoenix 3 ай бұрын
thx ^.^
@thisisthebeginning4425
@thisisthebeginning4425 3 ай бұрын
Punching Out has always been my favorite Sidearm and one of the 1st world drops I found many seasons ago. Another great video and breakdown .
@brannonshea8424
@brannonshea8424 3 ай бұрын
First time watching your videos and just subscribed - keep up the great content 😊
@McCarthyRay
@McCarthyRay 3 ай бұрын
I love your weapon advice.
@josephmillich5541
@josephmillich5541 3 ай бұрын
I've been running quicksilver and punching out recently, and I've never felt this deadly with an aggressive playstyle before.
@iron333able
@iron333able 3 ай бұрын
You are for sure one of my fav D2 utube c . Again a great video Where to get this sidearm . I had a few but erase them fcuk
@enriquecamarena1056
@enriquecamarena1056 3 ай бұрын
Gratz on 40k
@dreamtheater858
@dreamtheater858 3 ай бұрын
Great video per usual
@tdavis9610
@tdavis9610 3 ай бұрын
YES!! my High albedo with killing wind/Headseeker was doing work in trials this weekend!
@extectic
@extectic 3 ай бұрын
That's an adaptive frame three-burst, though, not a rapid fire frame.
@welslonghorn
@welslonghorn 3 ай бұрын
I always enjoy your videos!
@dancecultnoir
@dancecultnoir 3 ай бұрын
OMG i have a Fools Remedy with Kill Clip, Feeding Frenzy with 80 stability that is my Vault. guess it's time to dust it down. Also a Punching Out with Kill Clip, Overflow would that be better ? as the PVE damage numbers are higher in the field and the Enclave range, for some reason.
@kennydolby1379
@kennydolby1379 3 ай бұрын
I have a question, doesn't the range also affect aim assist & bullet magnetism? So more range, easier hits? Someone once told me, that the difference between 19 and 59 range (the min and max range of the scout rifle Servant Leader) is that at min range you're shooting needles, but at max range you're shooting bowling balls. So how is it?
@d3m0nrhino77
@d3m0nrhino77 3 ай бұрын
Can you show your Hunter Strand build you’re using in this vid? Or if you’ve already done a vid on it, can you point me in the direction?
@jedsanford7879
@jedsanford7879 3 ай бұрын
Ive been using the vanguard rapid fire with harmony on it- amazing with messenger.
@virtuajulian
@virtuajulian 3 ай бұрын
All glory to the algorithm I finally got hipfire / offhand strike Fioritura and that strand dive looks really fun, gotta try it out.
@Uchoobdood
@Uchoobdood 3 ай бұрын
I love the feel of precision frames rn tho. I have always been a rapid fire guy too.
@Kumari_44
@Kumari_44 3 ай бұрын
As a sidearm main too, The range deffo does matter. You can literally feel it between archetypes. 450’s are great. They melt super fast… But their severe lack of range will get you killed *alot!* in a competent lobby. They wont even let you get close enough for it to be effective. Against easy players or bots though, no problem. The 300’s are deffo the best archetype next to the three burst fire ones. Travellers chosen & last dance. Jheeezzee. Chaos!
@Soulverine
@Soulverine 3 ай бұрын
I just got a zen moment/kill clip Fioriture to drip from Banshee. I'll have to give it a go this weekend
@term3092
@term3092 3 ай бұрын
Lmao at that blooper reel at the end feels like you were matching players in Africa
@babateau
@babateau 3 ай бұрын
Blooper reel! That was great...
@jesimajewski11
@jesimajewski11 3 ай бұрын
Amazing Gameplay!
@Marcthegaurdian
@Marcthegaurdian 3 ай бұрын
The only reason I moved from my futuroa-59 kill clip zen was because of Helios heal clip. Heal clip works so will with the trick sleeves play loop. Low health more damage then get your health back after a duel.
@urbancorrupt2342
@urbancorrupt2342 3 ай бұрын
Another top tier video Maven! I still have an Last Dance omolon adaptive frame 491 rpm w under pressure tap the trigger. Gonna go try it out. =)
@sladevalen2120
@sladevalen2120 2 ай бұрын
I wish we got one of these for the kinetic slot. The only one we've ever gotten drops from a raid so ive never gotten one and they are my favorite archetype
@Eazyrun
@Eazyrun 3 ай бұрын
wth was this tune during the bloopers lmao I want it
@MavenPhoenix
@MavenPhoenix 3 ай бұрын
Diagonal Mario 2 Ghost House
@hoganlegdrop2409
@hoganlegdrop2409 3 ай бұрын
I subscribed. Great video!
@marquisebarge4771
@marquisebarge4771 3 ай бұрын
Also headsealer on the 3 Rd burst are really good!!! Sleeping on those!
@MavenPhoenix
@MavenPhoenix 3 ай бұрын
I've tried that on the High Albedo and the Senuna. Its pretty decent!
@marquisebarge4771
@marquisebarge4771 3 ай бұрын
Old Travelers Judgement 5 head seeker n rapid hit....sunset 😒
@athebaar
@athebaar 3 ай бұрын
I chuckled when you said "I'm going to lose my mind" thinking about me using that godly sidearm 😂
@mightyirish22
@mightyirish22 3 ай бұрын
Can you share your PvP hunter strand build you’re using here?
@MavenPhoenix
@MavenPhoenix 3 ай бұрын
Its just Sixth Coyote with max mobility and discipline. Although lately I did sacrifice some mobility to get Tier 7 resilience
@jasonwilmsen6404
@jasonwilmsen6404 3 ай бұрын
Please try out the precisions they are crazy
@sicktodeath0_0
@sicktodeath0_0 3 ай бұрын
I don’t play much pvp, but I use my Fioritura all the time in pve because of the ttk and because it’s the only non-exotic shield piercer weapon this season. It seems like there are a lot of void shielded combatants in activities with Barrier Champions lately, too. ❤️✌️
@user-vw2ts8xp1i
@user-vw2ts8xp1i 3 ай бұрын
i know that adagio on emperical evidence doesnt change the ttk much, but when u have it going and hit your headshots on the second player it freaks tf out of them how much health gets taken away on the first burst. my fave sidearm by far
@McArRuIzO
@McArRuIzO 3 ай бұрын
Very nice video!
@cookiepuss8182
@cookiepuss8182 3 ай бұрын
Is still rock my Fools remedy and once that KC is active it’s game over! Just melts. Great video!
@BudKnightRises
@BudKnightRises 3 ай бұрын
My Fioritura-59 with zen moment Golden Tricorn does not leave my side. I keep a repulsor brace roll for pve too. And you've definitely earned a sub from me for the rapid fire love!
@bartmanage1312
@bartmanage1312 3 ай бұрын
Just in the last week started using one of these with precious scars titan and I can’t put it down. Thanks Maven
@blackfishgaming7145
@blackfishgaming7145 3 ай бұрын
I found a great Fools Remedy in my vault after watching this. Range mw, moving target, KC and high cal rounds. It’s been working great.
@brogadzilla5954
@brogadzilla5954 3 ай бұрын
I had to subscribe to your channel, great video but your game play is crazy 👏👏
@war1ordman
@war1ordman 3 ай бұрын
Love using my Fools Remedy, kc/Mt roll.
@wethepeople8280
@wethepeople8280 3 ай бұрын
Yup. 3,500 or so kills on mine. And 1k on rangefinder kill clip punching out
@extectic
@extectic 3 ай бұрын
Drang used to have even more range (due to the highest zoom in the game) but it's been dialed back. But sure, I can see myself running Brigand's Law, craftable and all. Perpetual motion, surrounded, enhanced? Maybe Rangefinder (in spite of range not mattering). Or even just Voltshot, even in PvP.
@Kumari_44
@Kumari_44 3 ай бұрын
Drang and every other 300 is still better. Far better range. Much better aim assist. More stability. Less floaty recoil. The range on 450’s are so shit you’ll be dead alot of the time you reach engagement range unless youre playing a team of crap players like in this video. This gun will get you killed in any above average lobby.
@alexcurtis8132
@alexcurtis8132 3 ай бұрын
Rapid fires have been my favorite since Black Armory(got a sweet black armory roll and been hooked since even after scrapping it after sunsetting lol)...Fioritura, Fool's Remedy, Brigand's Law..pocket shredders for sure.
@raptordc5
@raptordc5 3 ай бұрын
I've been a blinklock main with drang since drang came back. You're spot on about the distance with drang. With the long drawn out immortal meta drang was one of the few that could compete with immortal. I'm a side arm hoarder so I'll dust of some old rapids and give em a spin.
@lumas69
@lumas69 3 ай бұрын
I like how your solo GM tastes translate to your patient trials play
@ogLenas
@ogLenas 3 ай бұрын
Maven... do you use an Elgato Prompter or are you just really good at speaking to the camera?
@MavenPhoenix
@MavenPhoenix 3 ай бұрын
I didn't even know that existed. I just talk to the camera. Been doing it for 8 years. Comes naturally.
@seandavis8831
@seandavis8831 2 ай бұрын
THANK YOU! I have a Brigands Law that i crafted and i love. The Rapid fires dont get any love but those of us that know, well, we know
@jgadventures4161
@jgadventures4161 3 ай бұрын
Me crying now after working for one with 50 range 😢 still love it
@Chobitus007
@Chobitus007 3 ай бұрын
Sounds good sidearm have to test, i have one now but perks is smallbore, armor piercing rounds, tunnel vision and kill clip + masterwork is range. Have to grind good roll. :)
@gryphon123456
@gryphon123456 3 ай бұрын
I started using Mykel’s Reverence since a true vanguard video and can’t put it down! Feels good and is really effective. Rewind rounds helps to ensure you have enough ammo for every fight and maybe two if needed.
@systemrestore1
@systemrestore1 3 ай бұрын
I will say that forgiveness adept (mine has 95 range) allows me to take fights deeper, almost feels like old drang in terms of damage drop off.
@VengefulJay
@VengefulJay 3 ай бұрын
May need to bust out the ol' Fool's remedy
@woozie_tv
@woozie_tv 3 ай бұрын
what rapid fire frames are you able to farm atm?
@MavenPhoenix
@MavenPhoenix 3 ай бұрын
Pretty much all of them except Fool's Remedy
@peternapolitano4545
@peternapolitano4545 3 ай бұрын
Rapids are on all 3 of my toons for PvE & PvP. Nicely done Queen Mave.
@ErwinRoossien
@ErwinRoossien 3 ай бұрын
The Fioritura is also insane with repulsor brace and void hunter for PVE. I usually reference to this gun to my clan as the Pew Pew Pew... Because that's what all of them are hearing 😂😅
@xxdestroyerxx1236
@xxdestroyerxx1236 3 ай бұрын
I went on a 20+ win streak using the drang this weekend but honestly this thing looks deadly up close I’ll give it a try thanks
@JeighNeither
@JeighNeither 3 ай бұрын
I use both these fairly often. I'm a PC player, & for some reason a lot PC players don't like sidearms. 3-bursts in the primary slot are underrated too (Senuna), because there are so many more exotics in the primary slot for achieving pvp dominance imo. I go back & forth between 3 & 2 bursts depending on how my aim is that day.
@MavenPhoenix
@MavenPhoenix 3 ай бұрын
Don't get me wrong. I love The Vision, but every time I use it, I have to ask myself why I'm not just using the Trespasser instead
@nomadicpast
@nomadicpast 3 ай бұрын
Senuna is strong, like very strong, especially the last Osiris map.
@alexcurtis8132
@alexcurtis8132 3 ай бұрын
​@@nomadicpastSenuna is a Staple for my Bakris hunter...soooo good lol even in pvp surprisingly (I'm ass at pvp and was shredding people EASY)
@unovaangst9262
@unovaangst9262 3 ай бұрын
Those who know about the black armory dead man walking x
@raidernation054
@raidernation054 3 ай бұрын
I got lit up by burning out the other day and had to go look it up like how lmao