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me personally, it helps me remember them so they don't look like amorphous masses when i encounter them again later, i'm usually gonna forget how to write them but it personally helps me recognize them

She's not saying to not learn the Chinese characters at all. she's telling you to not put your focus too much to memorize how to write them one by one but instead memorize it by it's particle and any other element that can help.

I see your point, but I do some writing every day just because I enjoy it and it helps me differentiate characters that look really similar. I don’t copy characters over and over, but rather copy a favorite passage from a book, a Weibo post that I find interesting, or pick a few sentences from a grammar lesson. But I definitely do more reading than writing.

I am learning chinese at university to be a translator, for me it's very important to learn how to write them. At the very least my prof constantly grades us at how we write hanzi.

I advise people to write, writing is the best way to learn.

i definitely have a case of character amnesia😂 i can still read and speak but i haven’t written in a long time and find it difficult to recall the characters😅 (i learnt chinese as a kid)

I find that writing down Japanese kanji at least once or twice (or until I feel like I got it mostly right) when I learn them helps tremendously with memorization, particularly with learning the radicals themselves. The process of writing down all the radicals in a kanji really helps with distinguishing the specific kanji from similar ones. For example, I used to struggle with telling apart 問 and 間, which I see all the time when reading, but never sat down and properly learned. After sitting down yesterday and writing down both a couple times, I don't think I'll ever mistake them again. Once I've learned and internalized all the radicals, I'll probably rely less on writing things down since it should get easier to memorize stuff without writing it down, but for now I'll keep doing it.

For me, writing was worth it. There is something meditative about writing the Chinese characters and after about 10 years you even get a feeling for their appearance and meaning.

This makes me feel less pressured 😅😂❤ 很好。

They forget because they use the phone more and more. After not needing to use pen to write, my spelling deteriorated.

Muscle memory helps. Try everything. Just do what ever works for you. It's good to write it, because it us also a form of therapy.

it's time to change the writing system

I am a computer programmer. Also I can still read traditional Chinese without problem, I have developed very bad character amnesia (even hard to write my name sometimes 😅). And I also forget lots of English words, thanks to auto-completion. Computers are clearly making us dull 😅

I think it depends on what your goal is. For me practicing writing them is both calming and relaxing, and it helps me to memorize reading them and remember the words. However it depends on your goal. If your focus is purely to speak conversationally then I’d not worry about it at all for example but if you were going to move to china or maybe you need it for work or academics then writing would be important. Even for reading, it wouldn’t be as heavily focused on but I feel it does help recalling the characters. I think it’s at least beneficial to learn stroke order though regardless,

I lived in China for over 4 years. I got to the point where I could read newspapers and magazines in Chinese. She's absolutely right. Reading and chatting/texting Chinese characters is what got me there. Even my Chinese teachers would forget how to write characters. There's too damn many.

Hsk test requires it I think

For me it helps me remember the character even better. There's a lot of Chinese characters that look almost the same and it confuses me sometimes. Writing characters actually helps me remember them better!

I only learned how to write 1,2,3 :)

but writint is sooooo fun😂. Characters look familiar to me if I can write them out

Doesn’t the new HSK require passing a handwriting section too though?

This is a thing! I know someone whose elderly parents read the newspaper in Chinese every day, but they've completely forgotten how to write

But writing them down is my way of memorizing too 😢

What's even worse is that I have to learn traditional Chinese

I'm Thai, and I can remember some Chinese characters even though I've never written them down. This means I can input Chinese characters using Pinyin without any trouble. However, it's hard for me to write them from memory. I can recognize the characters, but I can't write them at all. I'm using this to my advantage by learning Chinese without repeatedly writing characters. This phenomenon also happens in English and Thai, where you might switch the order of letters or words, like "Chinees si esay." We can easily guess that it means "Chinese is easy." This shows that our brains remember language as pictures, not as individual strokes. This could be helpful for those who want to start learning Chinese or Japanese.

Um but then you end up like me. I can read natively but cannot write enough characters to even take notes or fill out a form. And then when I got to college and wanted to take Chinese classes there were none at my level because the basic ones were well below my level and I cannot take the harder ones because I wouldn’t be able to write any exams or in-class essays.

Ngl I'm so glad I learnt Chinese when I was a kid. Learning languages as an adult is way too difficult..

😮, but for me without writing practice, means I can't remember the Chinese character that I learn . At least I will write one character in one page

yes!! i agree so much 😭😭 my uni teacher makes us all write the characters(like she dictates pinyin and we must write the character) even tho the only thing with our chinese we can do is reading and listening on the internet. i hate this extra focus on remembering how to write characters if we can just type in pinyin on the keyboard and get the needed characters 😭😭 also a keyboard on the phone doesnt need any wifi connection at all.. only some battery power and you can type whole ass paragraphs in chinese

I don’t even learn Chinese (at least not yet) or have ever tried to learn any language with characters than ones from typical Latin alphabets, but writing things helps remember things. Any time I have to memorise something I write it out over and over again for at least one of my methods of memorising. No matter what it is, it helps.

Okay, why does the 飞 looks funnier every word tho😂

depends on what you need. since im learning japanese, im learning to read how she says and it works very well. writing isnt a must have either

How to tell me your alphabet is too complex without telling me your alphabet is too complex 😮.

very good point. just wish the volume was a bit higher

Did you know why i love Chinese? cause this language has characters that makes me having pareidolia (the phenomenon when you see something objects looks like face, usually with 3 dots enough can make you think it's a 'face'). But not only face I see, so many things I can relate too! The unique of Chinese language

Thank you I thought I was doing a bad job bc I could read them but I forget how to write them

im not sure because i was taught this when i was very young, but i think learning the strokes is helpful for memorising, and also stroke ordering

My friend from Hong Kong sent me the progression of the Chinese character for turtle and it was incredible

Absolutely correct. Virtually all written communication these days is done digitally, so all you need is the ability to input pinyin accurately, and then read the output to make sure you’re not writing rubbish. Reading is crucial, but handwriting thousands of characters is a fool’s errand, and will negatively impact other more important skill areas.

I've had this like 2 or 3 times now, how have I lived in China and did translation homework on 5 year plans, but ask me to write something like mafan and my brain goes blank 😅

A part from the easy ones (as people, day, have, etc), I can't write anything. That makes me nervous about HSK 3

Thank you for clarifying this. ❤

Jeezus...i remember those days when I was in primary. I knew it, the teachings just won't stick to the point i treat it as punishment rather than learning

Damn the slave example is brutal. Of all the words you could have chosen...

KZfaq showed me this while I'm struggling to memorize Kana 😂 it somehow knew

That one example of the kid writing 多over and over looks like they reinvented oracle bone script or seal script 😂

Learning how Chinese characters evolved from pictographs to ideograms made it easier for me to understand and remember them.

when we wrote them over and over again i remembered nothing. when i copied sentences and wrote my own, i remembered all of them for at least a few weeks. now i can write like the top 50 used.

As a Chinese I had this experience today. I couldn't remember the second character but once I completed the first I instantly wrote the 2nd

I learn Kanji, but it is the Japanese variant.

I only have mild dyslexia with phonetic alphabets but chinese characters really kick it to a whole other level 😭😭😭

personally i really like east asian written languages. They are quite fun to learn for the exact reason she is talking about with how to remember them.

But for hsk exams you need writing 😢

My instinct is to write every thing because that's how we learn in the US too, but i have been lazy lol. I noticed that I've started recognizing characters even though i don't remember how to write them. I have a bad habit of thinking of what a character would be in English terms though

Im dyslexic and im very visually oriented i do this even with hangul which is less detailed. I dont remember stories so much but i try to pick out unique shapes in things and mentally connect them to the symbol. Suprise suprise im dyslexic in handsign (for asl), hangul, and spanish (likely anything else i try too). For my kind of dyslexia i confuse the k/g ㄱ and n ㄴ shapes in hangul, as an example. Also all the vowel type sounds with the upright shapes, i find them super easy to confuse (ㅓ ㅏ ㅣ like these)

I am native to Chinese (writing Traditional which is harder) and i somehow remember the difficult words and forget even the simplest words. It is just something that blends into your mind. Also words like 都到度 always confuses me in my writing exams, so I think that forgetting words are fine, but make sure to continue developing😂

That’s why I’m not learning Chinese but Japanese. If you forget or don’t know a Kanji, you just write them in Kana. I really cannot understand why after so many years, Chinese hasn’t adopted an alternative phonetic writing system.

Now this is a real issue i am not getting into. 😅

when i was in highschool my friend is smart hell. straight A+s every single time, every single subject. except for mandarin. he never went above C for that subject. he's chinese.

When i was doing chinese in high school, i remembered how to write fire by seeing it as a little person😅 literally showed my teacher what I meant by drawing a head on top and immediate understanding. Last I heard, she uses that as a method to help people remember fire😂

It's better to use a spaced repetition system to practice more regularly. Skritter is amazing for this!

😂I’m not learning Chinese but I can kinda apply it to Japanese lol. Bc kanji. We’ll hard kanji anyway 😅

Thank you!

Thanks for the protip. Learning some new languages seem pretty daunting, because I'm so accustomed to the Latin alphabet, because I can't use context clues. So, learning to read before writing could be a good strategy for me, but I would need the reinforcement of writing

But I love writing and I love chinese characters aloot, so I feel like writing them over and over is kinda entertaining fo me 😢

The amount of times I forgot how to write 的 is extremely concerning

Amazing, it seems easy

my mom used to be a journalist in china and was born in china lived in china throughout school and she forgets so much

Fr, I hated that as homework.

Its still very crazy for non(Chinese?) Character readers. German was easy for me to get in to but Chinese/Japanese Characters? I really want to learn Chinese but the language is so complex and has things that simply dont exist in English.

there is a way that indirectly and efficiently helps with writing characters, its called using shape based IME. something like 行列30 is a great example: with 行列 you have: 9下(彳)1中(一)1中(一)3中(亅)=行；1中(一)7下(夕)3上(刂)=列 (shaped based IMEs will follow the same rules as handwriting: left to right and top to bottom). as soon as you start frequently using shape based IMEs you will also begin to remember the components, thus remember how to write them with hand eventually. shape based IMEs can use CJK componet set or even more than just that, like Kangxi 康𤋮 or their own set of components like 行列30 to compose characters. the CJK component set alone is what makes over 50000 characters possible.

Is there a tool for looking up a character you don't know? I know in japanese when you forget kanji you can look it up by spelling the word phonetically, but you can't do that with chinese, so what do you do instead?

I have the opposite problem with Cyrillic 😅 I can write it flawlessly without much thoughr but i am so low at reading it, to the point its easier for me to write the Cyrillic in the latin letters 💀

Such amnesia happens only for less used characters but not for the 5000 daily characters. I would say memorizing those characters by rote is a recommended way to get fluent.

I guess I'm starting to memorize a bit better the meaning of the characters since I started to learn how to write them

I'm learning Japanese,and that's why I forgot how to write kanji even hiragana and katakana but I can read when i saw the character 💀

Not all people have character amnesia. Some really can remember.

The point is not to stop learning how to write them... is the focus on writing. Really, you don't need to write it 10 times out of context.

The practice of writing is for writing, so you don't practice, you forget. Practice imporves

Yeah I can read chinese relatively well but when it comes to writing… I die

for me breaking them down in small pieces and writing htem helps them and just memorizing doesnt help

I always learn a new language by listening. I use words by words in everyday sentence. At that point I learn how to procounce the words, how and when to use certain words. Writing is a whole other learning process.

I like to write them because my brain just remeber them more easily and also it feels so relaxing writing the caracters with my nice ink pen because I feel like an artist or I don't know What I mean, I think that each person must learn languages in the way they feel better

This is a complicated language. Even pronouncing words correctly could be a problem you are not aware of.

I think there might be a problem with the writing system there if even natives have trouble using it... I've heard somewhere that they have like 5000 characters or something like that. How do they write on paper if they can't even remember all of them?

yeah that's why we learn english. LOls

That makes a lot of sense

Finally a chinese video with no hate comments

its true. nowadays people just type

that’s super interesting

There are wetlands near my home, egrets and sandhill cranes are nesting there. It's incredible. Problem is, there's no way to get close enough to take any passable photos with my little 300 mm. I just started doing "real" photography, I want to buy a lens with a longer focal length, but I have no idea what to buy, and the "cons" of every review have me putting my wallet back in my purse.

nicee teacher❤

sigh* i have that thingy magicy already, and i only know how to read traditional characters and only can write bit of it. i never learnt simplified lol

Idc I'm still gonna write characters cuz they look cool

I remember doing this in class when I was in primary school, it’s called 习字 (xi zi), and then we had to do the chinese spelling called 听写 (ting xie) which is like a nightmare, even as a Chinese person myself

Students who learn characters tend to remember longer, but this is probably more due to the additional years to learn charters Old style FanTi characters are easier to read. They tell a story

Typing also contributes to character amnesia. You just need to recognize and choose the right character.

Im just learning it for treasure hunting yamashita treasure here in Philippines

水 isn’t this water?

Japanese people tackle the character amnesia by using hiragana