The game is on day 2 of officially being released and the "it's just left click simulator" people were already driving me nuts. I've been like "1. You obviously don't play HI3, Hoyo's other game that uses a similar combat system (because those of us who do, know what is up). 2. You didn't do the character/combat demos, 3. you're gonna be frustrated when you get further along and have no idea why you do no damage." Since I've got HI3 combat under my belt I picked it up almost immediately but can 100% say that from experience, that it's gonna get harder if people are not bothering to learn the system.

Honestly I'm kind of already tired of people around this game, I recently saw some dude say that the puzzles are boring and bro literally attached a screenshot of the first Bangboo you get to fix in the story, sometimes I don't know if that's supposed to be sarcasm or not. For me the combat is almost trivially easy so far, but I'm only at level 23 at the moment so I'm waiting with any concrete opinion until I progress further into the game. People really seem to overlook that the devs said they want a large portion of early-game content to be easy so that the game is accessible and smooth to get into, but then ramp up the difficulty in the endgame, which I hope they deliver on well.

This game is a great example of how when you really lean into a style, it can alienate people. I love the art, the puzzles, even the comic book sections. But I also immediately noted that it’s not going to be for everyone and it doesn’t need to be. Hoyo makes so much money, this can be their weird little fighting game, art experiment.

8:24 finally someone that can justify why the chain attacks are viewed as ultimate attacks.

People think that ZZZ very simple because they played early game and didn't see powerful mob's yet. I am in early stages to, but I heard that there more powerful enemies further.

People just complain for the sake of hating , some try just a few minute and some just hating without even trying the game just bading on watching CC. The most and loud are the one joining the hate train , because they just like watching chaos

You're the first creator I've seen mention switching out during longer animation sequences! To be real, 9/10 times I've clicked on ZZZ videos, it's people saying the exact same information, with little to no advanced/deeper explanation./ there are so many creators making ZZZ content right now. I think anything you can add to the ether, that's more unique, the better! I'm hoping someone puts in the effort to actually demo the casts animations and optimal routes at some point too. As someone who primarily plays fighting games, that kind of content is GOLDEN.

The game only teaches people the small portion of how zzz actually plays. Now it looks casual in their eyes but in reality its more than that. As a fighting game player, this feeling is very familiar, and I'm glad I discovered the actual depth of ZZZ now.

I've been having so much fun stylizing team combos despite the early game easy difficulty. I've seen so many braindead takes on Twitter from big CCs and their followers. Guys like you, Iyo and SOL are the saving grace in this space. The Bangboo info was something I was unaware of... thanks!

That fucking teleporting bastard made me change my strategy to the game. From button mashing to dark souls roll

People are complaining that its mash game but don't even bother attempting to learn the combat flow. I learned how each of my agents work off each other and now I have a much better understanding of the agent's nuances. I'm at Proxy level 25 and I'm already seeing enemies that do require you to engage in the systems. Great video.

When go further in the late game I noticed. Well first the don’t do challenge in story mode and when your dies for first time. Now they know they need to dodge because they been comfortably casual till level 23

I absolutely love Zenless Zone Zero's combat so far! I have been doing good combos because of my experience playing BlazBlue, and I have been dodging and parrying well from my experience playing Stellar Blade! ZZZ is so fun! 😆

Yo, I got some new things try! Funnily enough we were forewarned about the gameplay with the SF roundtable. Mashers are essentially the players playing on modern controls in SF6, while others are trying out all the tools given to them like classic users

Very useful, even tho I'm still in the early game the combat came pretty naturally and i was using some of the stuff you mentioned already. The only thing I wasn't even thinking about was the limited parries, i will make sure to remember that when i get further into the game. Thanks for the video!❤❤

Gacha players not thinking nor reading and just pull characters. Classic

Loving ZZZ right now! I absolutely ADORE when games let you active-switch between your teammates during long animations. Coming from games like BBTAG, FF7 Rebirth, Dusk Diver 2, and the Genokids demo, I'm feeling right at home with Zenless' combat. There seems to be this notion among a lot of gaming communities (not just gacha) that if a game doesn't force you into using all of its mechanics, then it's somehow worse because of it. Personally, I prefer it when games give you plenty of tools, while still allowing the freedom to experiment at your own pace.

The fact that there techniques that carry over from fighting games into ZZZ is what sells me. Watching people knowledgable in games likes Guilty Gear or Mortal Kombat pick apart the combat with delayed/alternate inputs, animations with long i-frames, and other techniques shows me just how smooth and well-crafted the combat is.

The combat really isnt just mashing after some hours of gaming.

and I didn't know until now that it was a chain attack and that I could choose which character I wanted to attack

Thank you for this. Not gonna lie. I've been struggling how to play some of these characters cause I don't know when its the right time to use their special attacks.

I don't believe you can judge a game fully from day one, I think you have to reach the endgame to see if a game is truly "trash" or not. But let me know your opinions down below.

One thing I learn while playing zzz is setting up with daze meter against large wave of enemies. Instead of triggering the daze on a singular enemy only doing 2-3 chains atks. Id would stop attacking that enemy and increase the daze meter on a different enemy. The catch is I wont have it the same percentage but slightly lower than the first and/or second monster daze. This way this become a one wave rush triggering several chains back to back. The first 3 chains will increase daze on the other enemies retriggering another set of chain atks then another set of chain attack. This is very handy for characters like nekomata where her chain attack / assist attack is a heavy physical "aoe". Help clutch a few timed missions without buring ex special.

Another tipp for preserving assist points. EX Special Attacks make the agent invurnable during the animation. A well timed EX Attack can achieve the same as a parry.

'It's all left-clicks' has the same feeling as ' _HSR_ only has 3 moves.' The systems are outwardly simple, inwardly deep. And _ZZZ_ was designed with a low barrier to entry, and a high ceiling for challenges. Give it time, these games always start slow. We should be able to see what this game has in store for us by version 2. And it _will_ make it at least that far. Thanks mostly to Captains, who know best what to expect.

Instruction unclear, I started to spam atk on ellen and she doing small damage ( my guy please read her skill why are they using her physical hit T^T )

I got a couple of tips for enemies. Certain attacks are more difficult to parry so your better option is dodge. For long attacks that you parry with melee characters, its best to wait before initiating the counter attack after or else you might get hit by a follow up.

For me it took a while to be able to take in and read all the visual information going on. I think when things are so chaotic and you don’t know what to pay attention to, that’s when it can feel like button mashing is your main option. I assume some people also don’t take time to read or understand a characters kit which is obviously important and would lead to less mashing if you understood what the “win conditions” for your team is. I’m loving I so far, I just 25 and unlocked Shiyu Defense. I’m mainly running the ice team Ellen/Lycaon/Soukaku but I’m excited to try other teams out when I have the resources.

Just ask those people how to do Ice damage with Ellen

The switching in this game is smooth asf, it feels so good

Very informative, I somewhat noticed the animation cancelling when I started playing, but wasn't aware it's an actual thing LoL

I appreciate you explaining these mechanics. I'm still in the early game so I've been mashing for the first bit of it, but I'll definitely be playing around with this stuff for sure.

Great video soldier 11 being my first S-rank, I had no choice but to learn beyond mashing

My problem with the combat is just that it forces me to switch at some moments, which i don’t like, and also the fact that you can only switch to the next character and not the previous one. It makes the combat feel limiting to some extend. I wish we had more freedom in switching characters.

Going agaisnt the mashing statements? Bet subbed

Though I must ask, when dodging or parrying is it more important to pay attention to visual queues or audio queues?

I had almost died because of a pretty strong boss, so i would definitely need this

After playing wuwa it comes to me natural trying out if there is also swap cancel. To my surprise its possible. It saves especially alot of time in my team since i pair ellen with the a rank we get for free after clearing shiyuu defense 3 since she has that spinning attack that takes alot of time.

I remember people mocking "HSR is too easy and shallow", only to get filtered 6 patch in by an overworld bug and a shiny boy 2 patches later, even malding so hard Hoyo had to nerf Aventurine 2 days after 2.1 lmao. For me the game is "easy" due to docile enemies rather than the combat mechanics, which can easily be fixed later on if they add more enemies/have more aggressive AI. I want them to add bosses so outrageous it can wipe the floor with your unit in 1-2 hit, has tons of unprompted attack with no warning flash, smash you so fast you barely have room to counter and chain em up several time so you can't abuse the dodge window.

Thank you for this glorious guide

Great video!! Very clear presentation and guide. You're killing it ❤

Bro your voice is so deep its making me deep dive somewhere and i am straight

another advise i would give mainly for pc and controller player is remap your button, ZZZ assign many thing on the same button which result in very punishing for button smash or even misclick so change it out and your combat will be much more in control

6:00 I peeped this in the first couple missions and got hyped lol

Honestly, a lot of hack n slash game feels “mashy” only due to its difficulty Not even DMC escape the “just dodge and mash attack” on normal mode. Despite its famous combo potential you can get through the game by dodge roll then spamming streak/combo C and occasionally throw out a fully charged blue rose or devil buster. Dante also has his trusty million stab into EEYAAH! (stinger), you can also ignore royal guard to i-frame dash around with tricker. The fight might be longer and you might have D rank combo, but you can get through the game mashing like that Only when getting into harder mode that you’re incentivized to dive into the game’s mechanic. Like juggling mobs mid-air to stay safer, learn proper royal guard to handle more pressure, start doing ex-act with Nero because mobs get tougher ZZZ is on day 2 of version 1.0. It only has like 1 or 2 boss to fight in the story mode. I expect later the game will have an endgame mode revolve around fighting/speedrun harder version of story boss. Like the memorial arena that HI3 has (equivalent to phantom pain cage in PGR)

Well, with this explanation, I can stop grinding that last enemy into the wall until the fight is over. It happens 10% of the time, but these tips n' tricks can make my regular combat both smoother and more effective.

Combat gets fun later but I haven't found a single character in this gacha that I like design wise, I love nekomata combos but actual character designs are falling short for me. I hope Hoyo cooks some good looking characters since I have seen what they have done with HI 3rd and HSR

This type of complaint is normal for me to see for different games. Especially for most Tales Of games which rivals the greats like DMC and Bayonetta in stylish combos. I learned of the animation cancel very fast. I'm very happy how smooth and fluid normal switching is. Super glad useful switching isn't only for Chains or Assists. I did learn to view Chain Attacks in a new manner thanks to you. I was disappointed a bit that they look either like an ultimate or EX Ability, why have a different name if they are the same animation? But you help me change my perspective to how more intuitive it is to be that way.

It's not casual or challenge mode only but there is also an easy and hard mode that has time limit to finish a stage.Even you choose challenge mode you can still select if it's easy or hard mode.

The only complaint i have right now is a missing style meter like DMC, how would i know how hard I'm dunking on enemies

It would be nice if you could show us some input guides to help people who struggle with figuring out the timing for certain characters optimal combo strings.

Honestly i think people are jumping into conclusions way too soon, like people are already talking about endgame. Bro its been 3 days and you are level 30 how you say its endgame 😭 i swear people are sooo impatient sometimes. Great video, says alot about the real complexity of the game is on the interaction with the enemies, which wont be that deep on every encounter (just like hack'n slash games)

I appreciate this a lot

Bro here is the thing, i already noticed all this at level 23, the problem is whenever i try to have full control of a semi-rotation i get utterly cucked by the auto chain, and there is no way to turn it off, even while utilizing all the mechanics of the game, it doesn't change this one core issue that plagues the rest of the combat. they want to prioritize switching, that's fine, they want a more casual audience to not have to worry about switching, that's also fine, anyone should be able to play however they want, the problem is, there is no OPTION for anyone that doesn't want the auto switching, so even experiementing with the combat becomes a chore.

I finally have some time to get on with the game and catch up on some videos... I really like the game, as much the art direction as the story and the simple gameplay (easy to learn, difficult to master, as can be seen in your video). Some people criticize the fighting or the TV, but I really like it, if I want a more complex game, I'll buy a AAA game lol... To my great surprise, when I saw Soukaku's gameplay, I thought ice would be my element in the game, but after I got my first 5* Rina, which I used with Anton...my God, I love it ! A video on the different elements would be interesting one day, I think. 👍

Dude , i just won Amilion 5* bangboo Ngl , his duel Gatling gun r best animation 😎

Awesome vid, for future videos can you put the inputs on screen in sequence? It will improve the quality of the vid and make it easier for new players to follow along.

I'm just waiting if people can discover any secret tech within each character.

The hardest part for me is knowing when to perfect dodge and when to parry

could you also make a team building guide? I know the game doesn't have a big enough roster, but I'm just asking

i did a crazy ass combo with that white furry dude, anby and nicole the dopamine rush i gor from that made me realize "damn this game good"

I don't understand why people feel the need to make up reasons not to play the game. If you just don't like the game, then you don't have to. But pretending like it has no depth based on 1 hour of gameplay when that same exact complaint applies to literally every single gacha game (and most games in general) ever made is just silly Imagine someone making an elden ring critique and they call the game braindead easy because the enemies in limgrave are "too easy to beat" and they never even got to margit. That's what a lot of the complaints against ZZZ feel like at the moment

If you really think hoyo games will be difficult later on… well, this might be your first hoyo game.

When i realized how to basically juggle enemies with Soukaku and Nekomata

Love the combat, feels like a very responsive fighting game.

Amazing video, which kinda just stapled things I kinda of knew but did not get fully and still got bunch of stuff I did not realise. And also a vid I can send to dumdums who keep saying that the game is just left click simulator.

It's not my job to make the game interesting. It's the game's job to make me do more than just left click. I like the spectacle of ZZZ, the animations and the feedback of dodging and parrying. But it doesn't change the fact that the combat is as basic as it gets.

As a soldier 11 main and og PSO2 enjoyer, no mashing required! Thanks for the video.

Its a mash sim, simply put its all you need, hear shing then press space lol

This game is firing on most cylinders for me. This is how i view the combat. Easily accessible but hard to master. Sonya (Mortal kombat) the game. Easily mistaken as a button basher. Getting a consistent 4 chain attack on a stunned enemy for example. I don't mind the TV sections in the place of traditional exploration. They reduce in frequency. Rank 23 at the moment

I’m not the best gamer, nor do I 100% understand the mechanics. But I understand them enough to get by. Maybe it won’t be effective long term, but if I hit that wall and break it down like I always do. I know there’s more I could be doing. I’m running off basic logic. I play this game as simply something to relieve stress and ease my mind. I ain’t trying to play like it’s DMC and study every small thing/character to be "effective". Like I said, I have a basic understanding of the mechanics and characters I currently own. I know I’ll never be at the level of play people who know everything are at. And to be honest, I don’t wanna be. I’m several hours into chapter 2 and I’m having fun. But I will admit, I get a bit self-conscious and a little discouraged to play because I keep seeing and hearing, "you should be/need to be playing like this". Don’t get me wrong, I get it. Help is help. But if it gets to the point that I gotta play a "certain way", I’ll hang it up. Regardless of how much I love the game. At that point it simply isn’t fun, it becomes taxing. I went through that with every DMC and I ain’t doing it again.

Great video, thanks

there i are so many chinese bots hating on zzz ...they have to be reported. great vedio reignited my fire after mtashed stream killed every aspect of game.

The combat flow is so smeczy

Level 30, it’s 100% a button bashing game, I’ve excepted it for what it is. Just enjoy it

I was doing the animation cancel thing on accident with Lucy's EX when switching to Anton and I assumed it was just a thing for her, but good to know that Ben does that too, Im accident to give it a go when I get to him! Quick question though, if I used smth like Ben's final attack on someone dazed and ready to be chain attacked, but I switch out right before he does it, will ghe enemy be stunned even though I'm not on Ben?

Its not that its a left click sim its the fact you really dont have to learn the mechanics till multiple hours in that i think is the problem. I like the game so i put in the effort early to understand the combat before it got hard but im sure many others wont see a point

The comment section in youtubers/streamer stuff is just annoying copypasta at this point, but it’s expected they did this to star rail The combat feels fluid and casual friendly at the same time (it probably helps the game has good optimisation and uncapped fps). Once I went into the rally missions under levelled I ended up realising how well designed the combat is and this is coming from someone who plays tekken & black desert online Also people need to manage their expectations, this is a gacha game designed to be casual friendly. you can’t expect the base of the game to be dead souls level hardcore gameplay neither can you blame the devs for not understanding how to make it difficult instead of annoying which they need feedback on definitely looking at how they make their games ‘harder’

It's going to be difficult for me to get the hang on these combat mechanics, especially with my phone that doesn't even meet the minimum requirements for ZZZ. I will try these, but I can't garuntee I will be able to use these mechanics effectively.

As a Hades player, I think it’s gonna be a struggle to stop myself from mashing😅.

Coming into this as a button masher, this is a huge change of pace. And I’m enjoying every minute of it.

As much as I know ZZZ has intricate combos, I'm having more fun button mashing. Is that a bad thing?

"left click simulator" said a player from the game that have parry on the same button as attack

7:01 those some characters are *all* support type agents

Stop mashing Me: No. Nekomata attack spam time!

honestly people who complain about combat are just trying to cover their lack of skill in it.. sometimes its justified like in games where its utter shit but totally not this game.. i still need to better time team parry actions but beyond that i think am doing decent so i can do a mission with using few lvls lower characters (max of 4 to 10)

Aside from the insane gacha im loving the combat and glad I already had this concept nailed in my head after playing other team based chain combo games like punishing gray raven But where is miyabi.....im tired of waiting for my samurai characters

I'm sorry for being slow about this, but how do chain attacks let allies use ultimate or not waste the 3k decibels?

" right click simulator" as if the other main gachas dont have that They just stilll crying about hoyo not doing much for genshin

Thats why we should ignore the haters and enjoy the development and the gameplay of the game *Ngl I want Shaoji to visit this game* I've heard rumors about doing perfect dodge and perfect assist at the same time and it worked, is it still true now?:>

thanks for the combat guide, i didn't realize how complex and deep the combat is in ZZZ, it really reminds me of a FIGHTING GAME mix with rogue like.

I’m still Smashing- I MEAN Mashing…

well beside the gameplay, i kinda like the stories. It really boring in the introduce, but very absorbing in later especially when you not skip it:')

Im trying to be optimistic of this games combat, i think the one thing its missing is being able to juggle enemies. Due to the lack of juggling most enemies aside from a few moves makes enemies feel like sponges

All I do is mash with evade, pressing space and E every now and then.

Please, do not waste your time thinking of all of that and just braindead mash buttons. The enemies made for infants in this game -_-

It CAN be a left click simulator but thats not all it is The devs said they wanted it to be easy to play so anyone could play it but also have the ability to be complex. Basically the game has a very low skill floor but also a very high skill ceiling

The complaints about the difficulty of a gacha game in the first 3 days is so stupid, people just hate for the sake of hating. I hope they find good purpose in life.

I knew some of this, but some of these things seem like they were not taught by the game. Like, I knew the animation swap thing for having multiple characters out. And I eventually realized dodging had an attack tied to it. But what's the difference between specials and ex specials? Didn't know they were two different thing. And what button is the quick assist thing? And there's some sorta way to get free specials on dazed enemies? Is that right? I took my time with all the tutorials, and re-read through all the notes the game saves for you, and half of this stuff I feel like I've never even heard of.

Or just play and enjoy the game, without worrying about "maximizing dps". It's a new game and people here are stressing too much on min-maxing. It's a game, it's suppose to be fun and learning by yourself is part of the experience.