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@timgannon299311 ай бұрын
This bullshit cracks me up in my 37 years as a professional mechanic i have had about 3 cars overheat because the impeller had mostly rusted away and not pumping enough water ....then old mate comes along with this load of shit 🙄
@jim73challenger11 ай бұрын
I have built and driven and raced hundreds of small block Chevy's over the last 40 years. By far, timing is the biggest thing that affects overheating on these engines.
@kevinkelley365711 ай бұрын
I have raced a homemade 350 on circle tracks, I always used a stock fan blade and stuck pulleys. My engine turned 7000 rpms lap after lap and I never had a cooling problem unless I used too low on octane fuel, or I set the TIMING too high. I agree with you on the timing.
@life_of_riley8811 ай бұрын
Timing is everything. It really depends on camshaft/valve events though. Wild cam: MORE timing to run cooler. Mild/Stock cam: typically LESS timing to run cooler.
@billrobison631411 ай бұрын
You can't run water through a motor too fast. You can run the pump too fast.
@kevinkelley365711 ай бұрын
@@billrobison6314 That seems logical to me.
@orangejuice433211 ай бұрын
@@billrobison6314 I agree. Cavitation can occur.
@clintonsmith993111 ай бұрын
Strang them engineers at Chevy made so many of them engines that ran cool for so many years. Don’t get me wrong, I love hot rods and Chevys more than anything but my family. I am 80 and worked on junk all my life. I found a clean radiator , a new thermostat, and a bottom hose that don’t collapse , I had no trouble even with my 60 over 13 to 1 327 in my 1936 Ford I drove to work for several years in over 100 degree temps. Must have been that old Ford radiator.
@life_of_riley8811 ай бұрын
Or you knew what the heck you were doing, set your timing appropriately, and didn't need to hack up your water pump?
@davidmartin4544 Жыл бұрын
Having a cooling system that works correctly is the answer. I have 468 30 over 3 core aluminum radiator clutch fan 190 thermostat is the south that never gets hot .
@BruceWayan Жыл бұрын
Tryed it out on my truck. It’s running alot cooler. After changing temp gauge staying at 170. Wating too hit the trail. Thanks
@prestonedmonds412811 ай бұрын
I had this conversation with an engineer at work because of a problem with overheating his triumph tr6. He said it's impossible for that to help. Speeding the fluid up always helps to transfer heat.
@thelincoln7211 ай бұрын
Your perfectly right: Heat output = M×C×DeltaT (M=mass flow, C=water heat capacity, DeltaT=temp. diff btw. Cooling water and anvironment). So the more flow the more heat tranfer! Rgds
@matthewq4b11 ай бұрын
@@thelincoln72 You are right except when it comes to the rad where you want the coolant flow as slow as possible so the coolant has a longer dwell time to shed the absorbed heat.
@christsogaugetrains11 ай бұрын
@@matthewq4bwhat thermostats are for
@matthewq4b11 ай бұрын
@@christsogaugetrains Ideally yes but if the capacity of the radiator is not high enough either through design failure or blockage it won't matter. And that still does not change the fact the issue is not absorbing heat from the engine but releasing while in the radiator.
@christsogaugetrains11 ай бұрын
@@matthewq4b all come down to the build. How thin the block is or bore. Pump just does that pumps water you slow it down to much water will boil in the block. Have have a good radiator proper coolant and air flow through the radiator with a shroud.
@williepelzer384 Жыл бұрын
That will be in perfect balance, probably makes the bearings last longer too🙄
@benburnett810911 ай бұрын
BINGO. This is everything that you should not do. When this guy says he is a dumbass he is not kidding.
@waylonmccrae354611 ай бұрын
Won't matter at all !!
@allentraylor565911 ай бұрын
Not enough weight or length , on the blades to worry about balance.
@williepelzer38411 ай бұрын
@@allentraylor5659 so if the engine is spinning 7,000 + rpm how fast do you think the water pump blades are turning?
@matthewq4b11 ай бұрын
The issue is not the flow through the block but the radiator. The Coolant is not staying in the radiator long enough to shed heat. The best solution is a higher capacity radiator to slow the flow of the coolant and allow it to shed more heat so it can absorb more heat from the block.
@LordMekanicus11 ай бұрын
I usually tap water out of the back of the heads and plumb it to the water neck above the thermostat. The difference in pressure and flow forces the water to flow through the full length of the heads. Haven't had much of a problem, even running 36 degrees ignition timing.
@franksprecisionguesswork50111 ай бұрын
I think O’Malley might be right but for the wrong reason he’s talking about splinting that pump beyond 7000 RPM which I’m sure is just frothing up of large amount of cavitation and if that fluid is pumping through the head it’s not gonna do a good job of extracting heat. Halving the number of blades for that given rpm, the likelihood of cavitating is much less. Although I would also smooth out all of the jagged edges off where he cut the blades off. For sure if the engine is running with more timing, it’s working harder and going to produce more heat, so yes, you can affect the engine temperature by varying ignition timing. And if your cooling system has border line problems, then advancing, the timing could cause it to overheat. I think it’s common practice at times for people to leave the radiator cap off or loose when they have an overheating problem. But if the overheating problem is due to loss of coolant via a leak, yeah that loosening the cap is a good idea. But if the system is not leaking, it’s better to have a pressurize cap., This because boiling water has less heat, transfer ability than completely liquid water and a pressurized system has a higher boiling point. I think one other point is that in at high-performance engine that has thinner cylinder walls it’s possible that the engine could be cavitating directly on the cylinder walls much like some of the early power stroke diesel engines. And once the cavitation starts, there would be less heat transfer which would lead to more cavitation ad infinitum. If someone has an overheat problem , I’d try the power stroke coolant to see what happens. Thanks for the video, the smoking is a real turn off.
@billbirch374811 ай бұрын
The only heating problems I've had are insufficient radiator size or no fan shroud. Never got into HV or electric water pumps. Most people are not driving their engines 5,000rpm and up on a circle track. You need to resize pulleys to slow down rotation speed not foul up the pump. Same with the alternator. These are sized for daily driver not tach warp speed racing.
@WVXL6411 ай бұрын
I have a 440ci big block Chevy making right around 600hp with 11:1 compression. It runs on 94 pump gas. I run a proper sized aluminum radiator for maximum fin to tube surface area, a stock 7 blade steel fan, and a 160 degree thermostat, with an aftermarket (flowkooler) stock replacement style waterpump. On a 90 degree day, turning 3500rpm on the highway itnruns at about 170 degrees, and in traffic will get up between 180-190. You just need a proper tune and the correct parts, not gimmicks.
@SoundsLegit7111 ай бұрын
You got the right set of spark plugs colder heat range.
@markk365211 ай бұрын
This is similar to how to help a Ford flathead engine cooler. The water passages in the head gasket were shrunken down over the evolution of the development of the engine. Washers placed in the thermostat housings restricted the flow too. I found that a good aluminum radiator in tandem with a high flow electric cooling fan does all you need it to on my flathead engine.
@TargaWheels Жыл бұрын
For the street where I'm under 3000rpm 99% of the time, I run a smaller pulley on the water pump (long water pump), with the biggest factory lower pulley (8 inch?) and run it without a thermostat. In traffic for long periods of time it will hit 180, but while I'm moving it comes down to 170. That truck never overheated even though I had 3 different small blocks in it (the 283 .030 over ran the hottest at 185). I guess it depends on the climate of your area (60- 92 degrees over the course of the year, sometimes the humidity hits the 90's).
@bleepin764211 ай бұрын
While this may solve an overheating problem, probably because the impeller is a crap design, the idea of why it works is completely wrong. Slowing down the water flow does not increase the amount of heat transfer in a cooling system. Ask yourself this; if you double the flow rate, does the amount of time the water spends in the engine block increase or decrease? The answer is neither; the amount of time is exactly the same because the water is always in the cooling system. It's not a single pass. If higher flow rates caused less heat transfer, then the water pump wouldn't be set up to be proportional to engine speed. Heat transfer is proportional to the temperature difference. When the water first enters the block, that is when the temperature difference is highest. The longer the water is in the block, the less heat transfer from the block to the water is taking place because the water is heating up. So to maximize heat transfer, you want to repeat the initial introduction of cooler water as often as possible. So high flow rates. Water can't move too fast for heat transfer to take place unless it moves at infinite speed which is impossible.
@michaellopez4018Ай бұрын
Great job, alot of good information here. Thanks!
@brianwinters499111 ай бұрын
I to have been a mechanic and a small block fan for years and have never see this before , I wish I had the time to try it out !
@j.danaclark216611 ай бұрын
This is very counter intuitive. I'm not saying your wrong, but it isn't the 1st solution that would pop into my head.
@javaman288311 ай бұрын
For racing multiple companies sell hign flow or high volume pumps that flow faster. Are you saying those companies that make parts actually used in racing are wrong?
@TheLonesometoad Жыл бұрын
Much easier to install a restrictor cone in the upper hose.
@alanmcgeachy6611 ай бұрын
Also rubs horsepower just like trying to run a dyno
@dfriendperc11 ай бұрын
Not that I’m an expert but years ago I learned that restricting an impeller or propeller actually reduces the load on a motor or engine. Slowly put a box fan against a wall and see for yourself. The fan speeds up because the restriction reduces the load. As for weather or not removing blades in a water pump will improve cooling? I have no idea- except that I do know that Chevy has highly educated engineers designing stuff. Perhaps using a larger water pump pulley could slow the water down in a super high revving engine- if that is the issue.
@SoundsLegit7111 ай бұрын
Much easier to install a colder set of heat range spark plugs.
@bottmar14 ай бұрын
Colder spark plugs keep your engine cooler? You must be kidding.
@RickyBobby61511 ай бұрын
Had a 91 chevy I bought in 95, always ran at halfway mark on gauge. Radiator developed leak so I replaced, ran on 1/4 mark after that.
@brian_204011 ай бұрын
I don't guess it matters about the balance of the impeller?
@1987Confused Жыл бұрын
Just replaced the water pump on my work truck 94 c2500 it doesn't run hot as it is so I'm not going to tear it back apart but that might have helped with pulling up in the mountains and stuff.
@bobstud375411 ай бұрын
I purposely install distributor onto cam shaft 180 degrees off. Then i reverse chassis polarity by hooking the positive cable to the frame and the negative cable to the starter. Then the starter runs backwards when you start engine, so the engine runs backwards too including everything else like the water pump n alternator. It's runs A LOT cooler this way.
@outfitsgarage8811 ай бұрын
Interesting. I'll definitely try this.
@colehara Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be easier to just install a bigger water pump pulley?
@benburnett810911 ай бұрын
YES, BUT THIS CHANNEL IS DEDICATED TO BEING STUUUUUUPPPPPIIIIIIIIIDDDDD.
@63grandsport11 Жыл бұрын
Why cant you put a restrictive orifice in place of the thermostat to slow the flow.
@77chevy4x4 Жыл бұрын
I’m running a 1” hole just for flow .. pressures a bit much but holds 180 all day .. this I got to try for maybe the extra ..
@louisrichards370211 ай бұрын
for a overheating problem u need more water flow,, get a water pump with a cast iron impeller,, that stamped steel wont do it..
@paulthompson1654 Жыл бұрын
Hi this would help when the radiator core is smaller than it should be and cannot cope with the high volume of hot water . But eventually a bigger radiator will be needed as hp increases . On some very high hp a high perf pump CNC impellor that runs slower is also needed .
@benburnett810911 ай бұрын
tHIS WILL HELP IN ZERO SITUATIONS. DO NOT DO THIS
@blackericdenice11 ай бұрын
I’ve owned a few 350s and I’ve never had a problem with overheating.
@jm1551701 Жыл бұрын
Man I wish I knew this trick when I was racing circle track , and I was always having over heat issues, this is a great hack, I will do this,
@benburnett810911 ай бұрын
DONT DO THIS. THERE ARE 4.00 RESTRICTORS THAT ACHIEVE THE SAME THING WITHOUT ALL THIS BUFFOOONERY.
@Imwright72011 ай бұрын
I’m sure being out of balance also improves its longevity.
@MattsMadnessOfficial11 ай бұрын
Not enough mass to matter, how hard do you think the belt pulls on that shaft? a few grams imbalance is not going to matter
@Imwright72011 ай бұрын
@@MattsMadnessOfficial vibration destroys bearings, thats why things that spin are balanced
@MattsMadnessOfficial11 ай бұрын
@@Imwright720 LOL even if you cut half the fins off one side that pump is not going to care do you have any idea how out of balance the pulleys are? hell most of them are cut off center and dont even run true
@alnix7250 Жыл бұрын
Not saying this will not work and I do remember the round track guys using a fixed opening insert for a thermostat to slow the water down but with the thousands spent on R&D you would thing the water pump manufactures would have figured this out. I think it is all about the individual build but you do need to slow the water down I would do it at the thermostat that way you can change it back easily. Just my 2 cents
@martincaldera38611 ай бұрын
I´ve always used copper-brass 3 core radiators in all my GM cars , and the only time it overheated, it was when my car was stopped in slopped road, in a traffic jam, combined with an engine cooling electric fan that failed.
@tomsmith4066 Жыл бұрын
Put back the thermostat it’s restricting enough
@louisrichards370211 ай бұрын
in the last 20 years or so us Pontiac guys have had overheating problems because the water moves too slow, and starts to boil... seems most of the rebuilt water pumps use that stupid stamped steel impeller, which doesnt move water like a old style cast iron impeller does...we looked in parts catalog till we find a Pontiac water pump with cast iron impeller,say off a 1975 firebird w 455 and AC,it has the cast iron impeller and will move plenty of water,try that if u are overheating, did u install a stamped impeller water pump??
@Peter-V_0011 ай бұрын
For oval racing I used a gutted thermostat ring that kept the engine coolant under 180*f .
@SOAPBOXSAMBO11 ай бұрын
We use to use a large washer instead of a thermostat. We kept drilling it out until the temp stabilized at max RPM.
@smokeskull Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a trick to gain hp not aid cooling
@benburnett810911 ай бұрын
IT GAINS NEITHER. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU SMOKE DOPE AND TRY TO MAKE "COOL" VIDEOS
@utahcountypicazospage541211 ай бұрын
This is slowing down the water leaving it longer in the radiator to cool which means a bigger radiator would do the same thing without cutting make sure to clean all that metal out 160tstat big radiator and problem solved because when you make it work hard you will need that water moved
@thurthevintagelens2 жыл бұрын
Will this work the same with 6 blade water pump
@coburnlowman11 ай бұрын
Dad gad a 1950 Ford coupe. After a boring , and rebuild the flathead V8 ran hot. An old man told him to do this to the twin waterpums. Flat head V8s had 2. Anyway it fixed the problem.
@kmbriggs269311 ай бұрын
That's ok I guess as long as you are not doing that to a vehicle with an ECM or PCM. Will never go into closed loop .
@mikehatter180011 ай бұрын
Nice trick good to know thank you Mike FLA
@simonsimon390711 ай бұрын
Wow in the past if i had a heat issue the thought of i hi flow water pump i would think ya that might cool it off weird things thx for the know.
@Just1Spark11 ай бұрын
Or, run a smaller pulley on the water pump. :/
@warddavis499511 ай бұрын
I don't know that I would agree with "The lower the temperature on a small block Chevy, the better she runs." I mean I get what you're but there's definitely an optimal range, and I've often found them to be quite comfy in the 180-210 range. Just my experience.
@edwardtaylor478511 ай бұрын
IIR, the same trick was used on flat head Ford track cars for the same reason.
@thegreatest0332 жыл бұрын
Couldn't you just change the pully size to slow down the impeller?
@joesmith3062 жыл бұрын
They're not that advanced.
@JSAFIXIT2 жыл бұрын
Yes, you could. The pulley might get quite large, though. The water pump pulley is already pretty good size. If the stock pulley is 5" diameter and you increase it to 7" your pump will only spin about 1280rpm slower.
@nashvilleoutlaw Жыл бұрын
@@JSAFIXITi would imagine it might free up a tiny bit of power clipping off some of the fins as well. With prop aircraft the more blades the less efficient it is usually. In other words the drag increases more that the thrust from from extra blades because they are riding in the wake of the blade infront of it.
@christopherparis6841 Жыл бұрын
@@nashvilleoutlawhuge difference being fluid dynamics n flow rates in different passages
@larrycumbo2023 Жыл бұрын
Out of balance now?
@SOU69008 ай бұрын
Only time I ever had a small block run hot was when the valve on the exhaust manifold wouldn't open because someone that had the truck before I did hacked the vacuum lines for the emissions stuff together and made it so the valve was always getting vacuum.
@davidleary823 Жыл бұрын
Bullshitto. Go to Stewart water pump web sight and read up on water speed. Slowing water down does nothing.
@gabriell9289 Жыл бұрын
You’d mentioned altering the thermostat too?
@larrywarner931410 ай бұрын
You can do that to your $30,000 engine not mine , I've never hurd or seen someone cut the cooling propellers of a water pump !!
@LionsTigersBears11 ай бұрын
Use a electric water pump with a momentary switch to cycle the pump. Creating a heat exchange effect. And run a 160 thermostat. Works great keeps it at 145degrees all day and night. Even at idle.
@mikehatter180011 ай бұрын
I have also found if you build a radiator shroud or grill If there is any gap on the edges of radiator or shroud Will over heat Air finds least path resitence and will go threw cracks rather than radieator Also a grill using to much rods orto close will also give you high temp
@darrellepickering843311 ай бұрын
During the '60s the 327 had 2 different water pumps available. If you put the 350 hp version on an A/C equipped 250-300 version you had an overheating problem.
@mikewillett507611 ай бұрын
That's interesting, never heard of that. So the 350 HP water pump is less efficient (giving less drag) or what?
@darrellepickering843311 ай бұрын
@mikewillett5076 I remember our local mechanics taking of this in the '60s. I assume it either had more/less impellers & perhaps the pump cavity was larger. As I remember the story the 250/300 took the same pump but the 325/350/365 took another. I do know on some other makes the A/C version took a different pump than the non-A/C did irregardless of hp versions.
@darrellepickering843311 ай бұрын
@mikewillett5076 Seems there was a snout difference. Bear in mind I'm 74 & that was a very long time ago.
@red-doggracing555711 ай бұрын
Moroso makes a piece of aluminum that you rivet to the blades it makes a high volume water pump out of your stock water pump and it works really well
@louisrichards370211 ай бұрын
or u can get a water pump with a cast iron impeller instead of that steel stamped one..
@ABs70nova10 ай бұрын
Could only imagine how much vibration this causes and how quickly the seal will fail. Drag racing car or circle track minimal use great trick. Not for street use.
@debragibson348911 ай бұрын
Other ways to slow water flow without cutting. Cutting blades might show positive horse power gains though. Physics "nonsense" to slow down coolant flow to decrease temps. Laws of thermodynamics apply. Entertaining for a moment tho.
@user-cs3zs6jn1d11 ай бұрын
I simply use a 160 degree thermostat in my small block. Everything else for the cooling system is stock OEM parts. 330k miles and never overheats. Even when it's over 100 degrees outside my truck never gets above 180 degrees.
@lgroves33611 ай бұрын
this makes perfect sense. He references changing out the therm but doesn't speak to what a new one should be. He needs help making a good video.
@grandam11 ай бұрын
What temp does it run in the winter? I run a factory recommended 195 NOW in my three 1978 Regals. The funny thing is I was running a 180, and when idling for over 5 minutes the with the AC on in the summer the temp would get up to 225, and I didn't like that. I went with factory 195 and now can idle all day and temp stays at 205 in the summer with the AC on. I've always wanted to try a 160 if necessary in the summer, but I was worried about the oil not reaching good operating temp in the winter.
@user-cs3zs6jn1d11 ай бұрын
@@grandam I think the coolest it's ran was around 130 or 140. My biggest problem in the winter is waiting for the windshield to thaw. But I live in the south east, so that's only a problem for about a month
@grandam11 ай бұрын
@@user-cs3zs6jn1d I'm in Louisiana so we really don't have a winter lol
@albertocruz595711 ай бұрын
Dont smoke when you explain
@anthonyiannone761811 ай бұрын
i dont understand how this can help , only thing i can think of is the pump cavitates at high rpm and removing half the blades prevents that????? i dont know the laws of thermodynamics but it would seem to me if the water moved "too fast" it would just bring the heat to the radiator faster??? But what do i know
@right66652 жыл бұрын
I have a 355 flat top block with aluminum heads, 4 row aluminum radiator, 4-12"elct fans-2-pushers an-2-pullers,160⁰ thermostat ... and I still over heat. Need a good water pump.
@Slushers1 Жыл бұрын
I just read that an electric water pump acts like a thermostat. When off it allows the water to cool down more in the radiator. I might try this for my overheating problem.
@codyramos3200 Жыл бұрын
@@Slushers1my understanding of electric water pumps Is they continuously run from the time you start your vehicle . No stopping. The guy you replied to made the mistake of having pusher fans going at the pulling fans. And a 160° thermostat... that low Stat will be open wide as it can be letting full flow continuously. A 180-190° will open less at lower water Temps slowing the coolant flow compared to the 160°. ..
@delcowizzid11 ай бұрын
Do you have vacuum advance hooked up if not it's the normal reason for overheating street cars not enough idle and cruise timing the flame goes out the exhaust valve past the water jacket and superheats the water
@Slushers111 ай бұрын
@@delcowizzid there is no vacuum advance in a 1988 Sbc because it’s running a TBI setup. The advance is electronically controlled by the computer. 😁👍
@bigbelconut11 ай бұрын
And you can't put the cigarette down for 7 min
@georgejr264011 ай бұрын
Why does everyone think slowing down coolant is the answer. And speeding up airflow through the radiator is the answer.Does one medium have a reverse effect over the other?
@pauldunn700011 ай бұрын
Why do you think there is a pressure cap on a cooling system? For every lb of pressure it takes 4 more degrees for water to boil so 212° boiling point with 1psi takes the boiling point to 216° 2 psi is 220° and so on, the psi between the water and the metal parts also increase the absorption of the heat from the parts to the water and then from the water to the radiator.. A hotter engine with in reason is more efficient than a Cold engine why ? Because more of the hot fuel is burning IN the engine, and not EXPELLED into the exhaust with that engine cycle ..
@frankfitz342111 ай бұрын
Nice...so all those metal shavings are in the seal. 😦😖
@hajrudinkavazovic223111 ай бұрын
Smart guy with cigarette in hand 😊
@algonzalez4822 жыл бұрын
Is fresh rebuilt 350 new 2 core radiator 2 electric fans still is still overheating when at idle could this fix the problem
@algonzalez4822 жыл бұрын
also only overheat that idle could this fix the problem
@drivingmylifeaway71492 жыл бұрын
few questions. what thermostat are you running. which way are the propellers on the water pump
@jeromebrowder7544 Жыл бұрын
1@@algonzalez482¹¹😂❤❤
@michaellopez5502 жыл бұрын
So you didn't tell us what to do to the thermostat you mentioned some kind of mod
@jimdriskell8427 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, tried it on my 350 sbc on my 04 Jeep Wrangler TJ conversion, did not reduce overheating at all. I have a 3 core aluminum radiator with an electric fan. Any other suggestions?
@omalleysmobileservice7374 Жыл бұрын
So the question to you is so I'm running a big block whistleblower twin four-barrel and I'm running a straight fan with a five and a half inch spacer between it on the on the water pump and that is the only way if you get that fan close to the water pump to be able to cool the water going through the course of the radiator but the cooling fan electric is not going to do it you have to you have to cut the fins off the back of the radio the back of the water pump in order to slow the water down through the hedge a enough like a lazy chain of River floating on down the river I've done it many many times on any engine that I build since I learned that trick and it works so it's a proven fact that it works I don't know what you're doing I mean you may even have to put an electric motor on the water pump to turn the water pump slowly to give the fan I'm not trying to move the proper CFM of are across The corrs
@jimdriskell8427 Жыл бұрын
I did exactly what you did in the video. I have a 3 core aluminum radiator with a 16" electric fan, no fault 170' thermostat, the electric fan is right against the radiator, running constantly. That's what I did, and it did not work. That's all I can tell you.
@omalleysmobileservice7374 Жыл бұрын
@@jimdriskell8427 no question I do if I read correctly you said that you have 170° thermostat correct if you watch the video and you paid attention to what I said you must take the guts out of the thermostat and put the thermostat plate back in by doing that it is a constant flow of water. The thermostat opens and closes depending on the temperature that is needed for the engine to maintain a certain operational temperature. If you’re running 170° thermostat that thermostat believe it or not is still going to open and close and if it gets above it, I believe it’s 100° above what it is sit out if it’s set at 100 and 170 and it gets to 130 270° the thermostat goes in the default boils over and shut itself. Take the guts out of the thermostat and put the plate back in and your problem will be solved.
@omalleysmobileservice7374 Жыл бұрын
@@jimdriskell8427 if you want to talk to me I don’t mind talking to you on the phone. You can reach me at 971-373-3336 and I can explain the concept behind exactly what I was explaining to you in the last text.
@jimdriskell8427 Жыл бұрын
@@omalleysmobileservice7374 took the guts out, inserted the plate back in, still running 210-218 degrees Fahrenheit, ambient outdoor temp was 86 degrees Fahrenheit, so still not working. Installing a 4 core radiator this week to see if that will help.
@dave0z962 ай бұрын
Demolition derby guys do tricks like this
@dustbat11 ай бұрын
My 65 and 66 GTO's were fine temp wise until you got above 55. Guess the 390 rears did that. I believe a 5 speed would have solved that.
@1967davethewave11 ай бұрын
My best friend was having a run hot problem on his '68 GTO with a fresh 455 at highway speeds. He tried all the usual suspects like thermostat, replaced the radiator with an aluminum one, a couple different style of fans and nothing helped. He was running the Quadrajet off the original engine and his 455 was warmed up a little. I suggested checking his main jets and metering rods. They were #72 jets and a medium primary rod. I gave him a set of #74 main jets and some really rich metering rods out of a carb off a '70 Buick 455. Voila', his overheating at highway speeds was solved. He said it also had a little better throttle response when passing. There are so many causes of running hot, it takes a lot trial and error to find the solution sometimes.
@dustbat11 ай бұрын
@@1967davethewave Man, I never would have thought of that one.
@flinch62217 күн бұрын
Quality/simple idea for track - soak time matters in both the engine and the radiator, and not everybody has calibrated why their [stockish] pump impeller might be wrong at 8000+ rpm. Pulley ratios help, but mainly as rpm goes high a street design impeller is simply outside its design curve. Had you tried removing say... 0.150" off the tip of all blades instead of the method shown? Or, is it possible that rather than soak time, it is simply cavitation wrecking flow efficiency with that stock impeller [by poor suction]? Only a flowmeter would prove which is happening. I worked on some marine stuff before with shell & tube exchangers and raw water flow always had to be pinched down [on the exit side] or we suffered high temps. So yes... flow rate does matter, because temperature differential correlates directly to thermal efficiency [as in btu/hr exchanged] no matter what the naysayers tell you..
@MinecraftSurge11 ай бұрын
this stuff kinda contradicts science and common sense, although i could definitely be wrong for some reason. But uh the water extracts the heat based on the temperature difference or delta. The greater the delta, the more heat transfer occurs. The more water is pumped through the pipes, the more heat transfer can occur with the same delta. I suppose this would just increase the water exit temperature, having higher delta in the radiator, however this doesnt help us because we never had issues with the radiator. But it decreases the delta in the block, because the hot water in the hot block, will absorb less and less heat the hotter it gets. Yeah idk anyway i look at it seems like making the water pump slower will just increase the overheating problem. The only feasible benefit is maybe if the engine is mostly under low load with random spikes of max load, this slower moving water would create a thermal capacitance, where it could probably damper heat spikes, but would overheat from prolonged high load.
@barrykilts45068 ай бұрын
You know I’ve often wondered about cutting all of em off and cut 1/4 of the vertical part off and weld em back on if you have a big radiator like I do and maybe increase the speed a bit by way of smaller pulley.ahh I’m probably reaching here
@tylermemyselfandi8077 Жыл бұрын
Correct size radiator
@Slushers13 жыл бұрын
88 GMC C2500 350 abc 700r4 trans with 373 gears. New 3 row radiator aluminum new 190 thermostat and a 50/50 mix antifreeze. Question : at an idle with stock fan with new centrifugal clutch the temp goes up to 280 in 100 plus outside temps. Driving down the road temps are fine around 215. Could your water pump fix help in this situation? Thanks
@mike-bj4dk3 жыл бұрын
same with my 89 ac makes it run 215+ otherwise never over 210 usually under
@Slushers13 жыл бұрын
@@mike-bj4dk ha Mike is that temp range with your water pump mod cutting out four blades?
@mike-bj4dk3 жыл бұрын
@@Slushers1 nope stock if it cant run right stock its junk my opinion but however it can be better with upgrades but im not cutting my pump
@Slushers13 жыл бұрын
@@mike-bj4dk the problem is it has a brand new pump and brand new 3 row aluminum radiator. And there is no restrictions in the block. So your advocating cutting the blades to slow the water down?
@michaeldavis9558 Жыл бұрын
check your fan clutch. when hot shut of engine. I fan will spin freely, change fan clutch. Sounds like its not locking up forcing air through radiator
@erikalston449611 ай бұрын
Just get a Adams water pump. Its the best belt driven water pump EVER made
@jeanlawson913311 ай бұрын
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@ritchiemarsteller88843 жыл бұрын
I have a 434 csb. I ja e a electric water pump, two electric fans. They run right from the start. My engine gets up too 240° on a hot day. The engine wants to stall . On a cool day never a problem. Any ideals ?
@cuzz633 жыл бұрын
Start from square 1....does the motor stay cool when at speed? Does it only get hot at idle? Most have issues with airflow and get hot at slow speeds.
@ritchiemarsteller88843 жыл бұрын
@@cuzz63 it gets hot when I'm stuck in traffic, when I'm moving a certain speed it's fine . A friend of mine told me to drain it, and put a mixture of 60/40. I did that I let it idle for a long time. It reached about 190. I need to take it out yet and sit in traffic lol
@cuzz633 жыл бұрын
@@ritchiemarsteller8884 190 isnt bad.
@ritchiemarsteller88843 жыл бұрын
@@cuzz63 I agree it's a good start it's not my daily driver so I just need to take the time out on a nice hot day and take it for a run.
@Slushers13 жыл бұрын
@@ritchiemarsteller8884 what was the ambient outside temperature when you did the 60/40 mix at 190 degrees? I assume 60 water and 40 antifreeze correct?
@thaddeauscaldwell7101 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great video . Would this help on the stock 1990 Corvette L98 engine, with the original OEM radiator , electric fans and shroud set up . Any information is greatly appreciated.
@bennyfactr6122 Жыл бұрын
This works on all 'repairable' water pumps. With t.p.i. engines, installing a lower threshold radiator fan switch and lower thermostat is another good fix if the car is in otherwise good working order(just trying to run 10°-15° cooler). Also a helluva lot less work than r&r'ing a water pump on a l98.
@postalsucks954811 ай бұрын
so what your saying is chevy cant even design a waterpump correctly? lmao
@channelview885411 ай бұрын
The original, factory pump on my SS396 had a cast impellor, all curvy and smooth. The rebuilders made those stamped metal POS. My Chevelle never ran cool again after the first rebuilt pump I put on it. I was too ignorant in those days to figure it out.
@jeremiahfiek5495 Жыл бұрын
Does this on small block ford engines aswell??? Or do they not have the same issue?
@codyramos3200 Жыл бұрын
I'd make sure no problems exist before going this route ... Make sure - rad cap holding pressure - no air in system - hoses aren't collapsing with rpm. - coolant isnt funky , crusty, rusty - fan clutch still strong or electric fans come on like they should low & high speed ( if equipped) - water temp guage/ sensor is accurately reading .. my 66 chevelle had this fool me for a little bit was reading 20° higher that it should have. Don't want to bandaid something that's just waiting to make a good day go bad. BUT . If you want to go this route . There's a easier way to slow the coolant flow ... 2 options . -Moroso restrictor washer set . 3 different diameters . Under $20. - cone restrictor that goes in the lower Rad hose. under $20 .
@codyramos3200 Жыл бұрын
It can be a issue with any modified engine. If everything is oem / stock then it shouldn't be having issues.
@broke_dongle Жыл бұрын
Did this to my BBF , under drive pulleys and thermal fan clutch with 180* stat.
@tonywilliams8364 Жыл бұрын
I have high performance sbc 283 I have temp issues would you recommend this trick?
@adamgaffer399111 ай бұрын
I have a easier method leave the thermostat in it I found that out in a mud truck and get hotter in a two peckerd tomcat in the middle of the hole with no thermostat and as soon as I put one in it stopped over heating
@adamUDavies11 ай бұрын
Interesting 🤔
@Buddy66293 жыл бұрын
Hello! I could use a solution to my freshly rebuilt small block chevy getting hot upwards between 220 to 230 in temp. The shop its at is saying its too tight internally and to take it back to the engine builder. More info I live in AZ and the temps can be 115. The sbc has a aluminum 2 core radiator with dual fans putting out 3,000 cfm. FYI it only gets hot at high speeds like 65 and higher. Thanks
@Arizona_Vineyard2 жыл бұрын
I just had my 454 getting up to those temperatures too. Turn on the ac and it hits 240. I had to stop using the ac. It’s freshly rebuilt too
@ihatesjws11882 жыл бұрын
Are you using a metal fan and shroud? Is the fan half in and half out of the shroud?
@Arizona_Vineyard2 жыл бұрын
@tallwill38 I’ve done all that but cut my fins. My builder said it sounds like it’s running lean. They bored it over.60 he said at traffic lights it could be not getting enough fuel to cool it down. I called a computer expert and he said it’s something on the board. It’s a simple fix and happens alot to older gm trucks and car’s. Im going that route
@omalleysmobileservice7374 Жыл бұрын
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@omalleysmobileservice7374 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Graves sorry about the delay in my response to your issue still learning you tube but yes your issue still stands you need to slow the water down I'm the block and heads to b able to extract the heat but there are other midigatting circumstances as well please feel free to hit me up on my land line and we can discuss the over heating further ! @ 541-313-2059 look forward to hearing from u soon Signed , Hotrod heavy
@hectordeanda9133 Жыл бұрын
Wait, so you’re saying that slowing down the coolant flow will dissipate heat better…then why do they make high flow water pumps? I’m no expert but it makes sense to me that a faster flowing liquid will dissipate heat better. Have you ever tried a high flow pump?
@peterdarr38311 ай бұрын
If the water moves thru the heads slower, the water has time to pick up more heat. Slower moving water dumps more heat while in the radiator. It's like breathing deeply or panting - which is more effective when you need Oxygen ??
@louisrichards370211 ай бұрын
@@peterdarr383 if water moves too slow you start to get steam , and then overheating, move water too fast and it cavitates, u have to find a good balance in between.
@peterdarr38311 ай бұрын
@@louisrichards3702 Yes - a balance. And when you build a 500 HP engine that has 190 HP cooling passages you have to make some changes. You can't just run it "stock".
@lgroves33611 ай бұрын
NOTE: adding a straight fan and changing the thermostat out are needed. He makes this comment. I wonder if a thermostat alone will do it? Wonder what the temp range on the replacement? You get half of the info needed in this video. LMAO
@gunpowderHVA11 ай бұрын
When the pipe is dry
@robertash7510 ай бұрын
If that molecule of water was going so fast it didn’t pick up enough heat I bet there was another one right behind it that would On the radiator side if it was not in radiator long enough to remove its heat there was more water right behind that water that would This cutting off blades may fix your problem but not for the reasons you think
@markbunn857611 ай бұрын
If you're running a thermostat and it's working properly this shouldn't be necessary.
@douglasmurphy32311 ай бұрын
Wow 😳 don't do this. I have been working on motor for over 50yrs that's a good waste of a water pump
@MrRebelss11 ай бұрын
Hope ya didn't get TOO many metal filings down in there.....🙄 The water is a "solid" constant...slowing it down isn't going to pull more heat off. Ever shoot a static water-cooled machine gun? Get a better radiator with better flow and hi-perf electric fan.
@nornd11 ай бұрын
You know nothing about physics, the faster a fluid or a gas moves the quicker it removes heat. example: you will cool off quicker with the fan on high then if it were on low.
@msh686511 ай бұрын
Get a bigger than stock radiator, use a shroud and toss the flex fan. Problem solved.
@joe-hp4nk Жыл бұрын
Can't see for the smoke.
@andyking967310 ай бұрын
get the impeller from Moroso or slow down the pump with the pulley ratios
@theautumnwind215211 ай бұрын
Bigger radiator is the fix.
@Fasteddiesinhomerepair11 ай бұрын
All i can say is your right but its wrong in so many ways