HEY GUYS IN THIS VIDEO I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT MIDS AND HOW THEY WORK IN THIS GAME AND HOW TO EFFECTIVELY USE THEM TO TAKE BACK YOUR TURN RATHER THAN POKING.ENJOY!
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@xenoryu9 ай бұрын
Fighting game 101 but think of this video as more informative for new players or people anyone having problems online constantly being poked on!
@azeplays35639 ай бұрын
Unless your character has a decently fast mid, your options are as follows: try interrupting with a poke, anticipate their poke and block, anticipate their poke and backdash/jump for a whiff punish, anticipate their poke and use your armored reversal, or anticipate their block and grab. There ya go.
@madddogg1459 ай бұрын
Buy its also annoying..if your main has to play this game....a good apponent knows you have those options and may play to bait you
@azeplays35639 ай бұрын
@@madddogg145 that's fighting games bro
@xenoryu9 ай бұрын
The point is that it’s a unnecessary mind game that specific characters have to worry about.whereas jc and geras(just to name a few)don’t have to worry about it
@azeplays35639 ай бұрын
@@xenoryuthat's what pokes are for though. And if most characters don't have that option of a fast mid then I don't see it as that much of an issue. Especially since pokes are punishable now. Much rather this than the poking wars of mk11
@viniciuslessa34808 ай бұрын
I would like backdash being a reversal like in 11. Damn or even throw. Having only special and Kameo is not enough sometimes
@winge-dogjones24929 ай бұрын
Informative and I like the music you put on in the background
@xenoryu8 ай бұрын
💯
@joshcantu54058 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. I appreciate you and all the helpful viewers in the chat. Yall are awesome.
@xenoryu8 ай бұрын
Absolutely and no thank you all for watching and sharing your ideas in the comments 😁
@nomis36268 ай бұрын
This is amazing. Ty 4 the info!
@TotallyNotMizu9 ай бұрын
just main johnny
@youtubewatcherforfun8 ай бұрын
Why so? He seems tough to learn with his star power up. Why is he good?
@louieduarte74368 ай бұрын
@@youtubewatcherforfunHes nasty easily top 2-3 in the game. Hes basically unpunishable and has the fastest dashes/pokes in the game with very solid damage. His mixups are nice and once hype is activated he is undoubtedly the best in the game. Hes got everything to offer other than projectiles which can be fixed with the right kameos
@youtubewatcherforfun8 ай бұрын
@@louieduarte7436 dayum maybe I give him a try. Just intimidating to learn for a noob
@antispiral098 ай бұрын
@@youtubewatcherforfunhe’s easy once you get the hang of it but his star combos can be a little tricky if it’s one that requires you to do the hype start while the enemy is in the air cuz you gotta move fast but other than that he’s easy and most of his combo strings are safe on block and do good chip damage paired with cyrax
@ehlirodriguez13698 ай бұрын
hes plus on a lot of his moves and has crazy range and mix ups of highs and lows. He’s really good
@coltbusick66448 ай бұрын
It’s important to remember to capitalize on the poke if you do get it it. D1 is very plus on hit for most characters. It usually Jails into your next string if you hit it, even if it’s a high string. Rooflemonger has a great video on it, and ways of dealing with pokes. Good luck testing your night out there everybody!
@ckim3361558 ай бұрын
awesome analysis
@edricjordan70938 ай бұрын
Helpful video!
@thegoat54849 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 pokey poke poke
@Zhangliowl9 ай бұрын
Kunglao has the best getup kounter on the game I caught soo many aggressive player using that
@Kreasddjb8 ай бұрын
good thing at least someone talks about it bro, i am playing reiko and my fasftest mid is 15fr and its clumsy and unsafe and my main mid is 16 fr, lol i cant even land it after i land a successful poke myself
@2024style8 ай бұрын
I just notice that the subscriber button shines in a different color when you say subscribe how did you do that?
@Alphamac249 ай бұрын
All my MK11 Kotal mains know the struggle of not having a fast mid, up close, and how to deal with it
@xenoryu9 ай бұрын
There are always work arounds however it’s more likely to get poked on in mk1 vs 11
@radfield60899 ай бұрын
mk11 kotal.... struggles....hahah how precious.
@jmack82309 ай бұрын
That command grab was your up close mid lmao
@jasonfgc43919 ай бұрын
f2 hello? comes out so fast
@Alphamac249 ай бұрын
@@radfield6089 reading comprehension alludes you. I never said he was "bad" as your sarcasm implies. Struggle...as in poke mashers...as that directly relates to the video
@taraishot1008 ай бұрын
I try to do pressure tactic that are safe on block and do mixups with lows and overheads and grabs or I just wait until they mess up and throw out and un safe combo then punish them and I poke here and there there a lot of options
@xenoryu8 ай бұрын
Thats the way to do it keep them guessing while applying immense pressure 👍🏽
@angeloviedo9459 ай бұрын
Any advice for dealin with stagger pressure, into grab spam, it’s something I struggle against ode
@supakaioshin9 ай бұрын
Trying moving back or back dash to make the grab whiff sometimes you will make the opponent whiff normal attacks nd punish
@xenoryu9 ай бұрын
Yea dropping a video on this next but for a quick tip:only moves that are -6 or lower can be staggered -7 and up you’ll be able to react to with training
@oshishivar45878 ай бұрын
So enemy poke me to corner and just spam me and nothing work just need block and some mid low frame attack?
@nexonsensei8 ай бұрын
Kung lao has a 6 frame starter hit with b1
@JinChuRiKix9 ай бұрын
Gotta poke
@shaunlugton92338 ай бұрын
I got poked into the corner by Raiden player and he got a flowless victory for it. I blocked him many times but I could not get a turn back because he would just poke again before I could poke him.... Also, I don't see how to reversal or break away from this because the breaker mechanic dose not seem to work against basic moves. Most of the time I end up blocking the entire match and maybe get one hit on the opponent. I try to do the same thing by mashing pokes but I get blocked and some how get destroyed from combos that last for days. I did much better with MK11 and got to rank 75, but this game seems like it is more for advanced players.
@xenoryu8 ай бұрын
That’s unfortunate but listen the advice I can give is to focus on what you’re opponents tend to do and then learn how to punish it no block strings are negative by the nature of fighting games only a few are going to be plus on block learn what you can do when your opponent does something negative if you know they are going to poke just grab them or poke them first
@sonic-bb8 ай бұрын
If they always poke, try to notice their pattern. Intercept it with a grab. They will have to start respecting that u can grab them. Just remember that grabs hit high and will miss them if they start delaying their poke or if they duck without blocking. If they start doing that after respecting ur grab option, just start trying to hit them while they are waking up.
@Jozai6108 ай бұрын
You can block there poke and instantly poke them back and it will be a “punish”
@babyrambo8 ай бұрын
“I get blacked” man why you gotta say it like that
@shaunlugton92338 ай бұрын
@@babyrambo Sorry, I fixed the typos.
@Jolfvaka8 ай бұрын
If you don't have a quick mid, and you don't want to poke. Just jump forward or step back.
@xenoryu8 ай бұрын
Neither of those get your back your turn it just resets neutral but those are definitely good options
@Jolfvaka8 ай бұрын
oh yea definitely! i think restting neutral is better than getting your poke blocked and losing your turn though. not a huge fan of pokes in this game (loved them in mk11 though)@@xenoryu
@xenoryu8 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree..What I’m trying to to do with game is find a way to eliminate some of the unnecessary mind games that the game has finding away around pokes was my first step towards that your points are really valid and appreciated
@Silverdoxxx8 ай бұрын
there are some characters that get range after a combo and do down kick and that shit is annoying
@xenoryu8 ай бұрын
That’s push back it basically resets the neural it is annoying but it is not as bad honestly you’ll get used to it eventually
@zuritv4778 ай бұрын
Song in the back is not that typa dude- zuriel trees
@hassanfuller87608 ай бұрын
Background music?
@edricjordan70938 ай бұрын
You said Shangs mids were "decent"...what 5 characters would you say have the best mids?
@gamerkron22198 ай бұрын
Cage, Johhny, Mr international love, funny actor character and obviously Johnny Cage
@xenoryu8 ай бұрын
Smoke doesn’t have a mid starter but his fwd 3 string is a low 12fr starter so that works just as good Johnny,geras, lui kang and nitara
@Aka-The_DutchMan8 ай бұрын
Hit poke. Follow by 7 frame mid.. Block poke. Poke back. Grab or jump . Very simple
@Kreasddjb8 ай бұрын
Pity that there are no mids in mk1 except for top tiers
@xenoryu8 ай бұрын
It truly I think they wanted it this way
@leonardfairell33978 ай бұрын
Shang definitely needs some type of buff idk care if he atleast gets more health, him Nitara an lie mae have low health.
@xenoryu8 ай бұрын
I agree definitely needs some work done ☑️ n those characters
@marekbabik27918 ай бұрын
@@xenoryu i disagree ... look at pro players ...on the very high lvl ...Shang is maybe one of the best in the game ... people also things Rain is not good ... but he can also do stuff where u cant even moving . outside Raiden and Baraka ...the game and the characters are overall balanced ... Nitara has also some cool tricks ...
@MrElixer268 ай бұрын
This is why NRS games piss me off so much. I was hoping this video was going to show me a better way than poking to get my turn back but now I realize I’m doing what the game intended lol
@xenoryu8 ай бұрын
Yeah unfortunately the only thing you can do is poke first grab walk back or use a fast mix which this game doesn’t not have much of
@brendilladederp8 ай бұрын
As a Shang Tsing main I found this video VERY unhelpful ☹️
@LilYungGrabBagJr8 ай бұрын
Make shang tsung f4 9f his b2 11f and less recovery on fireballs
@Kreasddjb8 ай бұрын
do you wanna get killed?
@jmack82309 ай бұрын
Smh kitana has 12f mid and I still get mashed on . Hate that
@xenoryu9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately you just have to play the poke game or play a character that has a good mid you can go into consistently
@ZensanFGC8 ай бұрын
Same it's very hard to recover with her so I use the Scorpion kameo to back pull away.
@jmack82308 ай бұрын
@@ZensanFGC facts I do it all the time immediately into ex fancy flick lol
@TheWiredWolf8 ай бұрын
are you saying you should use a mid instead of a poke? not every character is blessed with a fast mid like Kung Lao or Johnny, no offense but this is a dumb suggestion
@xenoryu8 ай бұрын
No it’s just and option and essentially the best way to not get poked on because what happens if they don’t poke?because you’re character doesn’t have a fast mid or maybe you’re afraid to use your mid you poke your opponent and they block it then they get back the turn the point of the video is that you can get trapped in an unnecessary mind game of poking because you have no mids so poke or go into your mid you can also jump or dash back but the best way is to use your mid
@xenoryu8 ай бұрын
After you condition then with a poke but don’t do it too much or else the poke wars will begin
@anismuhaj44958 ай бұрын
It's not only about frame its about range some characters have terrible Speed range other not🤬🤬🤬
@viniciuslessa34808 ай бұрын
If flawless block reversals were here that's how you steal turns lol
@xkmuffinzx39158 ай бұрын
Sucks because (at least from what I've played so far imo) flawless blocking in this game seems WAY easier than MK11.
@viniciuslessa34808 ай бұрын
@@xkmuffinzx3915 must be because there are tons of gaps and most move are slow so you gotta a bigger window ...I wish they were here anyway. I think it was balanced, if you do it props to you for the read, if you failed it than a combo.....
@xkmuffinzx39158 ай бұрын
@@viniciuslessa3480 they kinda brought that reward mechanic with blocking, if you up block a jump punch you get a block advantage but it's not the same
@viniciuslessa34808 ай бұрын
@@xkmuffinzx3915 yeah I fell you. For me sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't lead to a punish. Thing is: in training mode you can't see how much minus they are when you upblock something because.... because yes according to them... LOL
@TheDarkness45608 ай бұрын
Shangs mid might be decent but he has one of the best zoning kits (besides arguably Reikos stars) in the game so there had to be some compensation for it to not make him too busted and he has to work more when a opponent actually closes in on him. It's always the whole tool kit that matters not just one specific point and 1 char suddenly is way better then the other.
@LilYungGrabBagJr8 ай бұрын
No he really doesnt you duck those fireballs and jump once and youre already in shangs face and then he basically loses reiko outzones him and reiko is a grappler
@TheDarkness45608 ай бұрын
@@LilYungGrabBagJr nice theory but you describe here mindless spamming and not zoning with Anti airs etc. And one touch from Shang sends you again full screen for more zoning. Sure there's counterplay but if there wouldn't it would just be busted.
@mohsaic34898 ай бұрын
@@TheDarkness4560not to mention kung Lao makes his zoning even better with his hat
@mohsaic34898 ай бұрын
@@LilYungGrabBagJryou’re assuming the Shang doesn’t know how to play the game outside of zoning. By the time you get to him, a lot of your health will be chipped and he’ll have close to full bar to break, or to just keep enhancing his fireball on top of having to deal with kung Laos hat
@2024style8 ай бұрын
Shang is almost cripple when they put pressure on him
@TaigaGalette9 ай бұрын
baraka aint even got a mid normal god damn
@ghost-1nklegendary2259 ай бұрын
All his moves and good stuns are his pokes imo I dislike it but it's to keep ppl off me
@xenoryu9 ай бұрын
🤣I’m sure the community will find work around a stay tuned I’ll be covering a lot of mk1 and changes to come to the game
@h0dl3r9 ай бұрын
@@ghost-1nklegendary225that's why you start mixing in d4 into df2. It works for now with cyrax but once he's nerfed baraka won't have alot of options to avoid getting mashed on
@sobervision10499 ай бұрын
@@h0dl3r Cant wait for when Baraka players actually have to play the game
@LordFerbombi9 ай бұрын
Bro said that like the character still isn’t busted lol
@anthonyontv10619 ай бұрын
This is very character specific vs the title of the video, thumbs down 👎
@xenoryu9 ай бұрын
It’s honestly the same for a lot of characters in the game raiden has a 18fr mid for example and characters that has 12fr mids are in some what a better situation and -5 or lower a 12fr will not be able take back rightful turn