Stop RUINING Your Songs with BORING Drums!

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Trey Xavier

Trey Xavier

Жыл бұрын

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Edited by Sierra Ehlert
Demo mixed by Erik Seime

Пікірлер: 78
@Not_Andrew_Huberman
@Not_Andrew_Huberman Жыл бұрын
Honestly learned a lot as a drummer. It's nice to know what's expected or what others would like to hear so we can focus our efforts.
@D_Tuned
@D_Tuned Жыл бұрын
I did something new yesterday and started programming the drums first. Working through each song section and listening how the drums interacted with the guitar part (as I played along with it). Tweaking little by little. Then I layed down the guitar part. When recording the bass, it was so much better. With the drums locked into the guitar, it gave me freedom to try a few out of pocket ideas. Your octopus thought is so true. I try to imagine being behind the kit. What would feel good playing? I appreciated seeing your process and getting fresh drum ideas. Super helpful! 🤘
@user-oj3cz4bi8n
@user-oj3cz4bi8n Жыл бұрын
we absolutely need part 2 !!!
@darkstareng
@darkstareng Жыл бұрын
I love Superior Drummer. We run Roland V-Drums into Superior Drummer (acoustic drums are not an option due to the powers that be). I really like Toontrack's libraries, very rich.
@HeadrushStudio21228
@HeadrushStudio21228 Жыл бұрын
I love your lessons Tray! Thanks for all the hard work and time you put into these!
@jamieblavin8908
@jamieblavin8908 Жыл бұрын
This is such a good video because being a drummer it is so true. Keep up the great work Trey :)
@cynicald380
@cynicald380 Жыл бұрын
This may be just what I need to help me move forward in trying to write full songs. Thanks man 🤛🤛 I always took to actually tapping out beats with pads
@silent-trouble
@silent-trouble Жыл бұрын
This was a super interesting approach As a (mediocre) guitarist i often dont really know what to do when it comes to other instruments i'm not familiar with. Could you do like a similar video for bass guitar? I never quite know what to do with it (other than playing the root notes and an occasional lick in between here and there).
@2CSteev
@2CSteev Жыл бұрын
Any company should fall over themselves to have their shit advertised like this. Good content
@SchwartzerAdler
@SchwartzerAdler Жыл бұрын
I usually like working with 4 bar phrases subdivided into two halves, so that bar 1 and 3 are basically the same, but 2 and 4 are different.
@treyxaviermusic
@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's a good way to do it
@eduardomelo6046
@eduardomelo6046 Жыл бұрын
the king coming over with the sickest tips for songwriting as always
@HighscoreCreative
@HighscoreCreative Жыл бұрын
nice one man, would love a video on fills, ghost notes and dynamics too :)
@jeremyschiesser7086
@jeremyschiesser7086 Жыл бұрын
One of your best informative videos you've put out. Thank you
@dustyashberry6140
@dustyashberry6140 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video Trey! I really liked seeing the drums on a grid. I have always had a problem figuring out different time signatures. 4/4 gold.....5/4, 7/8.....what have you. I guess I just can't count. What I am getting at, could you do a video with time signatures on a grid and use some example songs to go with it? Might be a good video.
@IndyRockStar
@IndyRockStar Жыл бұрын
Hey Trey, you did a very helpful video on how to create song from a riff. Could you do a video on creating a song from a chord progression? I have a problem getting from chord progressions to riffs instead of the other way around. My lead lines keep ending up as vocal lines or bass lines.
@vladv5126
@vladv5126 Жыл бұрын
Use chord tones in your riffs. Simple.
@billrazor6591
@billrazor6591 Жыл бұрын
This channel is an absolute gold!
@RokDAWG1
@RokDAWG1 Жыл бұрын
Trey, you’re Gear Gods Trey today! This is awesome stuff yo!
@avenged_markus4656
@avenged_markus4656 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Trey, greatly appreciated
@tuckerdawson
@tuckerdawson Жыл бұрын
Trey - Promotes the awesome EZ Drummer 3 Also Trey - let’s use the crappy midi editor in Protools and not the really good midi editor within the plug-in 😂 Sorry Trey have to make fun a little!! Loving this video!!
@VrantusOfficial
@VrantusOfficial Жыл бұрын
@Constantinos Ioannides toontrack never makes their products free.
@ShootieSchool
@ShootieSchool Жыл бұрын
Well done!
@hansgrayman4809
@hansgrayman4809 Жыл бұрын
Ok, I admit it. I don't care about the drums I use and record with as much as my guitars and vocals these days. In my defense though, I am writing, playing and recording everything myself, playing everything except the drums. And EZ drummer and Superior Drummer are pretty awesome as is in lots of ways.
@sheridonkirk2360
@sheridonkirk2360 Жыл бұрын
So cool! Love the octopus analogy lol I often come up with beats in my head ( I’m a drummer) but then when I try n play them sometimes I’m like…. Yeah nah, Your not Danny Carey bro 🤦‍♂️😂
@BleuRoseDesigns
@BleuRoseDesigns Жыл бұрын
Those drums got spicy!! 🔥
@bigkidband5731
@bigkidband5731 Жыл бұрын
The Octopus behind the drums cracked me up! 😂
@jonkerrmusic
@jonkerrmusic Жыл бұрын
Would you recommend working on this as a refinement process after settling on guitar parts? I often run a really basic pattern as a form of livelier metronome to get what I want for the song, before going back to fine tune the drums for what I'd like specifically.
@treyxaviermusic
@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын
For me, doing it this way is a starting point usually, mainly because you wind up with something pretty specific, but also you can absolutely do it at any point to make the parts more interesting
@andrewjacksonmusic
@andrewjacksonmusic Жыл бұрын
Drumatic beats 🤦‍♂️ great video Trey, still gonna use logic auto drummer and mr smith 😂 but one day will get a drum pack 😁
@Fartinhalerr
@Fartinhalerr Жыл бұрын
Eh, not really sold on this kind of thing for metal, I think simple is better. For jazz or pop i agree with you though. These kind of drums work really well. Just my humble opinion.
@sungerbok
@sungerbok Жыл бұрын
Yup, sounded like a trap beat more than anything
@victordiesel
@victordiesel Жыл бұрын
Sometimes it becomes so complex its difficult to enjoy it. You dont really know where is it going. Almost like random hits.
@donaldinnewmexico
@donaldinnewmexico Жыл бұрын
Hi, Trey. I'm a new sub. Dovydas sent me. Saw that video doin' the Sweetwater Jingle.
@treyxaviermusic
@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын
Welcome!
@MesaMXR
@MesaMXR Жыл бұрын
Dying to see what the new SDX is. I'd love for it to be a spiritual successor to DKH Superior or something. Considering Fredrik Thordenall is involved, decent chance it'll be something like that. But Trey, I'm sure you already know exactly what it is. lol
@xenonvinc
@xenonvinc Жыл бұрын
Fire!
@henriquespencer8644
@henriquespencer8644 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@luisgpr1
@luisgpr1 Жыл бұрын
What do you think of Logic's AI drummers? That's what I've been using because I don't know anything about what to do with drums
@jloiben12
@jloiben12 11 ай бұрын
I like 20 bar kick loops. Especially when they result it fights ;)
@hansgrayman4809
@hansgrayman4809 Жыл бұрын
Either way it needs more cowbell.
@LegionofLoom
@LegionofLoom Жыл бұрын
🤘🤘
@_thaaatguy
@_thaaatguy Жыл бұрын
Man, that intro song!!! New channel intro, maybe?
@treyxaviermusic
@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын
Yeah you like it? I think it's aight but it's kind of nonsense really, just some tech death nothingness haha
@_thaaatguy
@_thaaatguy Жыл бұрын
​@@treyxaviermusic lol you think so? I think it's pretty unique and groovy, man. Not better than the old intro but it's definitely spicy 🔥.
@svenstormbeard
@svenstormbeard Жыл бұрын
This video was made for me after the song I submitted last Friday lmao
@smash_adams
@smash_adams Жыл бұрын
What midi pad are you using?
@treyxaviermusic
@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын
This one: imp.i114863.net/rn5K6B
@charlesrocks
@charlesrocks Жыл бұрын
***Krishna The Drummer has entered the chat***
@Scotty_dont
@Scotty_dont Жыл бұрын
Anyone know what that midi controller is?
@treyxaviermusic
@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын
IK Multimedia iRig Pads: imp.i114863.net/rn5K6B
@Scotty_dont
@Scotty_dont Жыл бұрын
@@treyxaviermusic thanks dude!
@apoplexiamusic
@apoplexiamusic Жыл бұрын
Alt title: baby’s first breakbeat Or : Trey’s first Drum & Bass beat
@khristopherkomodoensis4734
@khristopherkomodoensis4734 Жыл бұрын
Alt title: How to make 4/4 sound prog
@cynicald380
@cynicald380 Жыл бұрын
I'm getting tambourine timing vibes 😆😆
@treyxaviermusic
@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын
hahaha
@MykeOwns
@MykeOwns Жыл бұрын
Nice
@makoseda
@makoseda Жыл бұрын
Dillinger!
@hellmikeguitar
@hellmikeguitar Жыл бұрын
If "Beware of the octopus" doesn't sound cool enough you could always go for: "Be wary of Danny Carey"
@wayneczubakowski
@wayneczubakowski Жыл бұрын
Has anyone ever told you that you sound like fry from Futurama?
@treyxaviermusic
@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын
No, I usually get Chris Pratt, Will Ferrel or Ryan Reynolds haha
@givemeajackson
@givemeajackson Жыл бұрын
my drums are absolutely atrocious...
@wernerpunk
@wernerpunk Жыл бұрын
Great Video, I've watched it 3 times now !! :D But, why does your head look too big for your body in this video?!?! Is it just me haha???
@treyxaviermusic
@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын
I mean, I do kind of have a huge head hahaha
@wernerpunk
@wernerpunk Жыл бұрын
You made my day responding to this 🤣 I guess you have to keep all those tasty riffs and ideas somewhere my man 🤷👊
@flynbrynb5280
@flynbrynb5280 Жыл бұрын
Technically 4 on the floor means bass drum hits on the down beat. Just sayin no big.
@THEJRODIUS
@THEJRODIUS Жыл бұрын
1st all those brands dump Ye, now we seeing ground zero of a bunch of audio brands dumpin' Trey for anti-octopi rhetoric... ;)
@joachimtesdal5998
@joachimtesdal5998 Жыл бұрын
now lets go make some interesting music people!! anyone? no? well okay then..
@jayfree850
@jayfree850 Жыл бұрын
It's just not natural or pleasing to the ears. Sorry man...just not into busy, messy, overproduced stuff like that.
@marcocarnaghi294
@marcocarnaghi294 Жыл бұрын
"You need unique drum sections because you write unique music"- why you gotta be so rude? 😢hahaha
@treyxaviermusic
@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын
I like it because it could be a compliment OR an insult hahaha
@marcocarnaghi294
@marcocarnaghi294 Жыл бұрын
@@treyxaviermusic I though you were just making fun of your proved ability to write riffsaladas, I mean, songs hahaha
@johnpatitucci7919
@johnpatitucci7919 Жыл бұрын
5 minutes in and you're way better than Lars Ulrich.
@treyxaviermusic
@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын
I'm aiming to be better than Skeet Ulrich though
@LifeInLandscaping
@LifeInLandscaping Жыл бұрын
@@treyxaviermusic you gotta admit he has some cool snare placement in his better years? 😶
@offtherealm5438
@offtherealm5438 Жыл бұрын
Bullshit
@Kudabear1
@Kudabear1 Жыл бұрын
What r u talking about 1 second in amdhes already better than Ulrich
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