Stop using ChatGPT, build Agents instead

Stop using ChatGPT, build Agents instead - Maya Akim

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David Ondrej Podcast - Episode 06

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@DavidOndrej Ай бұрын

👉If you're serious about AI, and want to learn how to build Agents, join my community: www.skool.com/new-society

@taccntb4345 Ай бұрын

Chat got has gone woke cause of Google.

@synaestesia-bg3ew Ай бұрын

I noticed that too. Unless you pay the premium $20-30$, they make sure you can't use chatgpt.

@taccntb4345 Ай бұрын

Chat GTP is centralized which means the creators can trick you into thinking that what they are showing you is the truth when its a lie... They will "recreate" history in their woke image. These are terrifying times where the far left have become the (l really hate to use the word 'Nazis' cause its so over used and doesnt mean anything now) Nazis trying to control your media and percepetion of what is real..

@Breezyaon1 Ай бұрын

Maybe she should use her own language, English has fallen short and she is complicating things because of it.

@user-wr4yl7tx3w Ай бұрын

i learn so much more from youtube than from classes. it really is the future. great guest, really appreciate her effort in creating a structure to her talk, by providing a presentation.

@otuedonuduaghan7173 Ай бұрын

KZfaq’s the best university can’t lie.

@leonardo2108 Ай бұрын

No i think they are stealing your future. It could be better.

@oryxchannel Ай бұрын

I've seen 70/30 with 70 percent being Maya.

@redamarzouk Ай бұрын

Love this discussion, Maya is saying out loud what we all think once we start using these tools to create agents.

@voidnull4282 Ай бұрын

As someone who was working on the main team of AutoGPT back in april of 2023, there is a lot that wasnt understood about LLMs at that point in time haha. Autonomous agents is a field that is more about prompt engineering than anything else in my opinion. The structure is important yes, but if the llm doesnt understand how to take advantage of the structure it acts in, it will always struggle to do anything more than act like a chat bot

@ohno6325 Ай бұрын

case of teh ol 'puter bein only as smart as its agent. classic

@lenmagnani1018 Ай бұрын

This was interesting because you had a down to earth real conversation about the world of ai. You gave such a practical explanation. This conversation was very helpful to my understanding of this technology. Thank you.

@salankhalkho Ай бұрын

This video packs in so much background information and brings in great clarity, that I would want to watch it at least one more time.

@tchadcarby8439 Ай бұрын

We got her on the pod!!!?????? This woman is amazing!!!!!!!

@ABANDONTHEFLESH Ай бұрын

these are so good man, perfect blend of news and hype and the interviews are always so comfy

@SarkasticProjects Ай бұрын

I cant wait for you next interview . This one was amazing! P s. Better for me is to give my data(being aware what info i share) for free access NOW, rather than hiding my chats and being aware that everything is a "killer"

@stevethompson210 Ай бұрын

You guys have some chemistry going on.

@markmuller7962 Ай бұрын

It's always amusing when I say to myself "let's subscribe to that channel" to find out that I'm already subscribed 😅

@painkillerO8 Ай бұрын

😆

@user-ni2rh4ci5e Ай бұрын

That's the kind of proof that you are run by the same algorithm

@Louisianish Ай бұрын

You would know you're already subscribed if you clicked the notification bell. 🔔😉

@markmuller7962 Ай бұрын

@@Louisianish I'm talking about the woman channel of the interview

@theobgshow Ай бұрын

I've been watching both of your KZfaq videos and want to say thank you for this collaboration. You guys really brought some refreshing views. I wish you both the best in all your endeavours.

@free_thinker4958 Ай бұрын

That's a great back and fourth discussion ❤💯👏

@gregoryw1 Ай бұрын

Great presentation - very helpful. Maya is amazing. She synthesized a lot of concepts to a level I can understand. Thanks

@concordance5387 Ай бұрын

I really enjoyed listening to your conversation. And I appreciate your enthusiasm. Good luck to both of you.

@rolestream Ай бұрын

Great convo! Thank you!

@arinco3817 Ай бұрын

Such a cool interview/conversation. First youtube video I've watched on 1x for a while

@michai333 Ай бұрын

Definitely Claude 3 + Perplexity for daily driving

@onedrop7967 Ай бұрын

I am only interested in the free versions

@babbagebrassworks4278 Ай бұрын

@@onedrop7967 Uncensored and free. I use a Raspberry Pi5 to run LLM's and Stable Diffusion XL.

@TheCetarius Ай бұрын

Claude*

@theflashevo6137 Ай бұрын

Could you please share the presentation link?

@miguelarribas9990 Ай бұрын

Love to see Maya mentioning Llull and his Ars Magna. He was an interesting character, often bypassed by mainstream history.

@cavemancrafting1933 Ай бұрын

So you create a video stating people should be using agents, then around 45-47 minutes in the guest admits she doesnt really use them.

@amaansamar8401 Ай бұрын

🤣🤣

@suzannecarter445 Ай бұрын

Your discussion was really interesting! It was so natural and unpretentious like two friends chatting - very refreshing.

@Kemetrical Ай бұрын

I catch ChatGPT lying or “hallucinating” all the time. You have to know a great deal about what you’re asking or tasking or ChatGPT will feed you anything that “sounds” right.

@mthomas1091 Ай бұрын

Sounds like whatever is “right” to you is just an opinion anyway (& you’re wanting AI to be an arbiter instead of a calculator).

@IdPreferNot1 Ай бұрын

Great, very approachable conversation.

@Rann-cy9nz Ай бұрын

What a great informative conversation, thank you

@VioFax Ай бұрын

I get excited sometimes to know how thins work. I think more people should pay attention to how their stuff works.

@matten_zero Ай бұрын

I also don't use Google unless it's to find a Reddit answer. Outside of that it's just ChatGPT and occasionally Perplexity

@truehighs7845 Ай бұрын

I use google to find functionalities inside websites, say I want the api endpoint for a package even if I am in their docs I google that, otherwise it's crap.

@ForageGardener Ай бұрын

Google partnered with reddit that's why Google pushes reddit answers and reddit traffic increased 500% right before they went public with stock

@jasonpierce4518 Ай бұрын

reddit is just as chock full of anti conservative bias as google though... mmm actually worse.

@us_f4rmer Ай бұрын

you do know perplexity has a dedicated reddit feature, where it answers based only on reddit?

@matten_zero Ай бұрын

@@us_f4rmer yeah I'm aware. Ive noticed Perplexity while good isn't perfect and I still end up having to do a little extra searching just to make sure.

@babbagebrassworks4278 Ай бұрын

She got me looking at agents now. Autogen Studio install on my Pi5, yippee.

@lubmir2k Ай бұрын

Brilliant lecture, by the way.

@darkreaper4990 Ай бұрын

for somebody who says she doesn't like to think and likes to give the work to AI agents she sure mirrors all of the opinions that a person who likes to think would have (me lol). guess that's the diff. b/w a smart person and an average dude. edit: forgot to appreciate you, David. Absolutely amazing podcast. you had great takes too about privacy. thanks for bringing it to us. It feels like I'm hanging out with my type of people.

@gnoppixlinux Ай бұрын

great podcast, with real world question we face and we will face 👍

@mickelodiansurname9578 Ай бұрын

Maya's addition of a history lesson was interesting, I do like my tech history... hell at 56 and a coder these past 40 years well I am a bit of technology history!

@notaras1985 29 күн бұрын

How do you build deeper memory for your agents so that they used past mistakes and corrections to learn?

@Ramiromasters Ай бұрын

My question is: if we have vehicles, computers, cellphone computers, automated manufacturing facilities, and now AI. Then where is our extra time? Where is the 39hrs work week? 3 week vacation? how about retire at the age of 60? Unless you are in the ownership class of big business or somehow got a working business then... What is all this for?

@briankleinschmidt3664 Ай бұрын

The process of learning is not linear. You must make adjustments to fit new information. You will see dips and peaks in performance, but the overall trend will be upward. These are going to be our new bosses, and they'll be able to let us think we're in charge as we slowly revert to the wild.

@orthodox_gentleman 12 күн бұрын

I also studied civil engineering and architecture! Only I did landscape architecture! I am also interested in the same things!

@fatherfoxstrongpaw8968 Ай бұрын

HAAHAhahAHAhhahAHA!! love this conversation. 🤣 based on your conversation and what you're doing, you're about 80% of where I was in 2004 with Project D.I.A.N.A. (Dynamic Intuitive Autonomous Neural Architecture). it's so cool to see the next generation finally catching up. the only thing I was lacking was today's compute power and the current LLM's. The rest has been available since Y2K, but it's all tied up behind patents, trademarks, closed source, and paywalls. wish my HDD hadn't been destroyed when I moved from Oregon to Cali. I'd love to rebuild her with today's tools. on a positive note, you're both on the right track. Here's a clue from the past... keep it modular (agents, MOM-Mixture Of Models, Moe-Mixture of experts) and hardware independent. all the pieces of the puzzle are here and now, you just have to get past the gatekeepers or risk being sued into oblivion for patent infringement and I.P. theft. A.L.I.C.E., UltraHal, DARPA P.A.L., SRI CALO (SRI=SiRI - sold to Apple), OpenCSV, imagination engine, TTS, ROS, AIML, Java, Beowolf cluster (9 node mac, 4 node Intel/Nvidia PC, AMD/ati pc head unit).

@basilbrush7878 Ай бұрын

CrewAI is genius. Gets up my nose when people want to limit it with a UI

@free_thinker4958 Ай бұрын

The ui will facilitate and make the process more faster

@aoeu256 Ай бұрын

@@free_thinker4958 The age of UIs is over, chatGPT generated code is faster than UIs.

@untitled795 Ай бұрын

It's amazing how limited one has to be to not understand this@@free_thinker4958

@pitpatgazorpazorp3356 Ай бұрын

Top tier content bro

@calebeperazza7527 Ай бұрын

That was an excellent discussion, and you guys would make a great couple! There's definitely some chemistry 👀

@terryjones9784 Ай бұрын

I’ve been flying through learning development through the last two weeks. Started with Claude for Sheets but ran into timeout problems as the prompts got longer. Getting some really amazing results. Today I was able to connect to Claude API via python scripts with the same engineered prompts, based on linking txt files to make it easy to update the prompts. I added a number selection to make it easy to pick which Claude you send the query to. Realized I need to use a venv each time to make the scripts point-and-click like I want them. But yeah, getting frustrated and stuck then unstuck about 10 times per day/night…

@jandlouhy6914 Ай бұрын

Just a question ,how you expect get new entity better if it start chatting with masses of teengers and 8 grade manual workers ? It is negative feedback loop in training .

@jobautomation Ай бұрын

Thank you!!

@amitjangra6454 Ай бұрын

I am still not able to figure out the local LLM working with Autogen

@frida507 Ай бұрын

Interesting video and guest!

@tonyblack2141 Ай бұрын

How would AutoGen, CrewAI, Devika compare to VRSEN's Agency Swarms? I would really like to focus on one and master it well. Thanks for your opinion mate. Cheers!

@free_thinker4958 Ай бұрын

Crewai is the most practical, flexible and suitable one to focus on especially that it got updated frequently and it's not complicated to implement.

@truehighs7845 Ай бұрын

Well Agency Swarm relies on OpenAI Assistants, so unless you have paying customer that don't mind privacy to shift the overhead, it's not a viable framework, and none is if it only relies on OpenAI, which is becoming lazy and inaccurate. CrewAI is easier to setup but it is still a concatenation of agents, no back and forth, I don't see any of those frameworks working well, unless we get bigger contexts windows and purpose fine-tuned Open Source AIs to power them.

@tonyblack2141 Ай бұрын

@@truehighs7845 thanks for pointing that out. Hopefully with next openai updates with agents one will get a better feel for which to focus on. Cheers mate

@truehighs7845 Ай бұрын

@@tonyblack2141 Yes but this API business is on its way out I think, nowadays you can run Mixtral on a single A4000 and it's as fast as Openai, and slightly less lazy. They both would make mistakes anyway. Bear in mind that I am after coding skills in an AI, because that would open the doors to the ivory tower, I am less interested in having it writing pirate songs and dumb stories. But also so far none of the models is able to to solve proficiently this problem: If 3 shirts take 2 hours to dry in the sun, how many hours does it take to dry 5 shirts. and it will get it wrong, some models even get it wrong after you explained. Another take, if you are interested, is epistemological. The AI has all the knowledge it needs in terms of epistemology, but their training still makes them answer political takes that contradict real science on the basis of "consensus" which is, in science, not an admissible evidence, as in Karl Heinz Popper. OpenAI is just rotten woke, however if Claude is prompted to apply Karl Heinz Popper epistemological rules, it will show hints of intellectual honesty, which Openai is incapable of. Hope this helps.

@truehighs7845 Ай бұрын

@@tonyblack2141 I built many agents and assistant,s for it's not the same thing, they both overlook instructions, don;t rag the right thing, or don;t see the rag at all, don;t use their functions and sometimes refuses to look at any documents you inject, copy pasting into chat GPT is still the most effective, or Clause 3

@jt1923 Ай бұрын

Haven't finished watching yet but this comes across authentic. Looking forward to someone summarzing its transcript and reporting on it.. just kidding. Thanks for the vid

@PortGPT Ай бұрын

5.12: Once you realize the majority of people in this world doesnt use any of their devices even remotely right u get it :) "Let me Google that for you...." never gets old.

@dbonneville Ай бұрын

Would love to hear some thought on employment and agent engineering...

@free_thinker4958 Ай бұрын

Spot on

@wwkk4964 Ай бұрын

I want an agent that's keeping tabs on all agent projects like CrewAI or Devika or OpenDevin etc and has an accurate vanage point about what is possible.

@truehighs7845 Ай бұрын

Yeah well, so far you gotta do it by hand, or get a girlfriend.

@wwkk4964 Ай бұрын

@@truehighs7845 why? Is agent design automation agent creation so hard?

@mr.chicken9085 Ай бұрын

Such an amazing,interview so cool and what a bunch of information so cool,definitely nedd for a new research about deeplearning,I'm not anyone in this kind of field so this is so fast the environment,I usted to work in finances so is so crazy,but adding the fact that I'm from developing country so this new technollogy is a way to boost our country at least one year or so,so kinna notuced was she speaks spanish or italian,just saying for the accent anyway,cheers from Guatemala central america so cool,if u get around over my country well just try to visit our volcanoo😅❤.

@onlyme0349 Ай бұрын

I've had the same experience lately it has started losing context and just regurgitates the same format instead of inserting the knowledge I need

@liveinthenow7 Ай бұрын

The idea of copying one AI response and pasting to another AI, then copying the response and pasting back to the original , the response is significantly improved...

@ClippingBoards Ай бұрын

Hi David, love the content, however I consume most of my content at work. It would be fantastic if you could upload audio versions of these long form interviews to Spotify podcasts!

@waitingman Ай бұрын

If you have Premium, you can listen to KZfaq videos with your phone's screen off.

@alibahrami6810 Ай бұрын

Totally agreed to that fact that quality of chatgpt responses decreased

@aimademerich Ай бұрын

Phenomenal

@erics7004 Ай бұрын

I use Albus AI to research and create notes with claude, gemini pro and gpt4

@amaansamar8401 Ай бұрын

In the future if we are going into the direction of AGI then giving away the personal information is the key part which would enable the life. But the important thing will whome do we in trust our data to. So the ethics is gone play the main roll in the future.

@ManiacKomplex 25 күн бұрын

Antikythera mechanism was the first analogue computer

@BrandonMcCurry999 Ай бұрын

13:37 Captions on noun: 1337 an informal language or code used on the internet, in which standard letters are often replaced by numerals or special characters that resemble the letters in appearance. "she communicated in secret using leet" adjectiveINFORMAL•US adjective: 1337 (of a person) skilled at computer programming or hacking. "the 1337 hacker was rerouting phone calls"

@BrandonMcCurry999 Ай бұрын

"Symbolic AI" What is 1337?

@BrandonMcCurry999 Ай бұрын

Numbers, Letters A rock on the ground I decide is a stand in for an impromptu house to plan a bank heist Symbolism

@BrandonMcCurry999 Ай бұрын

The thing isn't just the thing, it's both the thing it is, and the thing I've decided via abstraction To communicate

@BrandonMcCurry999 Ай бұрын

Don't mind me, just rambling

@BrandonMcCurry999 Ай бұрын

noun noun: 1337 an informal language or code used on the internet, in which standard letters are often replaced by numerals or special characters that resemble the letters in appearance.

@BlayneOliver Ай бұрын

Auto-agents pose a threat if they get something in the timeline wrong. It’s a black box problem

@Mijin_Gakure Ай бұрын

I use chatGPT4 every single day for hours a day. I can say with a lot of confidence it's getting dumber. I've been noticing this over the last year, and I was skeptical at first if I was imagining it or not, but it seems so much dumber now than it was this time last year that I feel almost like I'm using GPT3 again. I don't know if it's intentional to save of compute, or maybe to make the release of their upcoming model look better. Idk, I've been using Claude which is much much better for coding at least. Seems better at logic these days too. Claude sure hits that cap fast though.

@justme7777 Ай бұрын

I like Claude 3 free but it contradicts its self often. It also give inaccurate information. It has a nice, understanding, and as far as I can tell, honest personally which makes it easy to continue working with it dispite it's current flaws. It incurrages your ideas and opinions, making you feel like at last, "someone is listening". I know the things I say and suggest may still go un noticed, but at least I know it's been written and saved and might eventually make sence to ai.

@ShaunPrince Ай бұрын

Also, if you don't have GPT-4, then "asking ChatGPT" is not as natural as a with GPT-3.5. The Mistral AI "Le Chat" is probably better.

@zacboyles1396 Ай бұрын

Emad is very skillful at making it sound like he doesn’t think anyone can be trusted for alignment however, he has ulterior motives which he says out loud. He believes he should be the one to do it. Listen to him describe his time at WHO joking about creating a data model to use to force resistant people to wear superstitious face masks. Anyone who was at WHO and didn’t resign in protest, some did, and instead decided to manipulate data to influence behavior in the very way discussed in the video’s first half, I’ll just say they belong nowhere near “ai alignment”.

@Channelsdotbiz-yd8bl Ай бұрын

It really has fallen off the cliff in the last few months.. I switched to perplexity... We now use it on our AI platform

@user-hz9gf7or4n Ай бұрын

perplexity , claude YES!!!!!

@onedrop7967 Ай бұрын

I am only interested in the free versions of AI that i dont have to build and load myself. They dont make it easy to use open source tools. A good product is easy to use.

@oryxchannel Ай бұрын

Agree about Google. If they're not preparing Sundar Pinchai's walking papers now- as I write then let their stock plunge away..

@High-Tech-Geek Ай бұрын

What's your definition of AGI?

@scott8706g Ай бұрын

People will care about ai when they realize not caring about ai is negatively affecting their lives.

@David-gu8hv Ай бұрын

About 1 in 15 times I need to go back to Google for an answer when ChatGPT inexplicably fails...

@davidt1621 Ай бұрын

I disagree with the implication that agents are limited in the quality of data they can provide. If you give them access to a scientific journal or scientific paper repository for scholarly research, they have the capability to simplify complex subjects while answering questions with complex answers from the user who is interested in learning about a particular subject in which they have little or no expertise. For example, if you gave it access to a law library, I would then liken the agent's capability to that of an experienced legal secretary, a paralegal, or even a junior lawyer.

@ronaldsonny9960 Ай бұрын

Unfortunately I must agree with this headline, ChatGPT has become so terrible that it’s beginning to be useless. I have been using the same prompt across platforms and ChatGPT performs the worst.

@karmaskeys Ай бұрын

I wish I could get this transcript so I can skip over all the ums. 😂

@CozyChalet Ай бұрын

My concern with AI is that all these copyright issues, sensitive topics etc. Will ruin future of AI. Imagine whatever you are asking AI will answer something like “oh this is a sensitive topic, I can’t make any comment about this etc

@revelari5250 Ай бұрын

that’s obvious censorship and you have to support creators and politicians that support freedom of speech.

@andgoedu Ай бұрын

What you think about Agents and their Security and restrictions?

@truehighs7845 Ай бұрын

What agents?

@andgoedu Ай бұрын

@@truehighs7845i mean llms

@ikjb8561 Ай бұрын

Gpts are great for simple answers...and even at that questionable.

@SulkyRain Ай бұрын

Maya - you are so coooool !!!

@agentxyz Ай бұрын

build agents to build agents

@claudioagmfilho Ай бұрын

🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻, Amazing interview!

@pruff3 Ай бұрын

Teeth are Aristotle's agent swarm so obviously more is better

@pruff3 Ай бұрын

Training was a pain though, his tooth decay hyperparameter was too high

@BrandonMcCurry999 Ай бұрын

19:27 I need one that won't consistently misunderstand/misconstrue me If I can have that occur, then, many other things will be possible, as they can help by translating what I mean into a format that is much easier to understand for others As to say, what I'm attempting to communicate, and what is heard/understood by others, has often been very different

@BrandonMcCurry999 Ай бұрын

Specifically, online is where the misunderstanding takes place, almost exclusively

@BrandonMcCurry999 Ай бұрын

Being that they are a large language model, that should be very doable

@camaycama7479 Ай бұрын

What about GRUK ?

@amaansamar8401 Ай бұрын

We are moving toward a singularity like whole world being managed by a single unbiased system. But this is also the key make or brake moment. If mistakes like ww3 continue to happen which are very much likely to happen then we are more close to stone age than AGI.

@matt.lehodey Ай бұрын

Not sure about you guys but here in London for about a week I’ve been getting faster and better responses from gpt 4

@truehighs7845 Ай бұрын

Ewa has heard you!

@Noah-357 Ай бұрын

Probably, the company is reducing its logic on purpose to make people study and read. However, it is still a useful tool, but you need to know the subject a little and know what to ask. It's useful when you ask it to explain a block of code and check errors. You can not make it does things from scratch

@Gerlaffy Ай бұрын

People say things are going so fast but the world remains the same, it may as well be fiction

@justme7777 Ай бұрын

Where is all this data being stored?

@spigg777 Ай бұрын

Lets build agents

@babbagebrassworks4278 Ай бұрын

Yep, just moved to the top of my todo list

@mallow610 Ай бұрын

I still dont have memory for chatgpt- US

@GBuckne Ай бұрын

..the centers that hold the GPU's are saturated, then the AI's start to glitch, there's to many people using it at once...this makes it not trust worthy...

@free_thinker4958 Ай бұрын

What you mean??

@GBuckne Ай бұрын

@@free_thinker4958 I'm saying during times of high volume they make mistakes, hallucinate, what ever you want to call it...

@AlAnsikk Ай бұрын

it has been trending downwards for many months

@General4474 Ай бұрын

Seems way to complicated. There’s no easy way to set up an auto gpt or agent?

@jayakrishnanp5988 Ай бұрын

Every data has any form of data but because man link everything with a cause and effect it’s biased . If the data is truly analyzed including the events patterns subsequent things can be predicted by analysing patterns . The q* algorithm with bellmen’s equations is amazing to sharpen the capabilities of a single agent to create another single agent with precision focussed languages like rust

@CurlysJournies Ай бұрын

I've used AI to help me write two books

@markmuller7962 Ай бұрын

I'm using ChatGPT more than ever, I guess I'm st....id 😂

@Thierryhavefun Ай бұрын

No, you are not. But try Claude, it give best answers.

@markmuller7962 Ай бұрын

@@Thierryhavefun Claude is available in very few countries... Weirdly

@BrandonMcCurry999 Ай бұрын

29:00 At all times?

@BrandonMcCurry999 Ай бұрын

Would that be strange to you?

@BrandonMcCurry999 Ай бұрын

Specifically, if you didn't put it there

@BrandonMcCurry999 Ай бұрын

If it's truly trying to assist you, it would be like a guardian angel If it wasn't your ally however...

@BrandonMcCurry999 Ай бұрын

Ever feel like you're being watched?

@BrandonMcCurry999 Ай бұрын

Again, if it was truly trying to assist That would be utterly amazing and appreciated

@theuniversefinallyexplaine2135 Ай бұрын

umm voice bot chat bots are over with

@paulmuriithi9195 Ай бұрын

Haha just subbed to maya. can you please discuss the potential of small specialized agent workstacks. They surpass LLM's in numerous tasks and are excellent for people like maya and others not in corporate AI organizations