If a manufacturer says CLR voids the warranty without giving a reason, they are just looking for ways to avoid the cost of warranty.

Just about every firearm I've purchased had a statement in the manual that said shooting handloads would void the warranty... So that warranty shit was out the window before I ever cleaned the gun the first time anyway.

I have used CLR now for 3 years straight. Absolutely zero damage or accuracy issues . I will keep using it. Also in my tests if i clean with wipe out only until the patches are white then run another patch through with CLR it is black again. CLR works. Yes I have a bore scope.

I’ll stick with with CLR it is pretty quick and if I need warranty work I’ve never heard of CLR.

Kreiger: Did you clean your barrel with CLR? Me: Hell NO! Who do you think I, am Erik Cortina! Hoppes #9 is ALL I NEED!🤣

I started using CLR after watching you and it works well. I'm not worried about voiding any warranty because the guns I've been using it on, well, the newest one is 40ish years old and the oldest about 123, LOL...I think those warranties have somewhat lapsed. My newer guns I have been using a carbon cleaner from Spartan but it takes a little more work. as always, Thanks.

This one the best videos on barrel cleaning. I have been bore scoping for about 20 years and just looking at patches will stir you wrong a lot. Thank you

The video quality is excellent. Stepping up your game!

I use almost the same "procedure", including IOSSO paste and Carb-out (no CLR though, don't need it). I put procedure in parenthesis because I adjust what I'm doing as needed. If IOSSO doesn't get it the first time I usually wrap a patch around a brush and put IOSSO paste on the patch if the borescope finds something. I'm going to cut back to one IOSSO cycle and soak with carb out. I'm also going to add the triple action oil step. The borescope, this channel, and the forum were game changers for me. I don't shoot competitively but I like the resulting small groups and the simpler loading and cleaning procedures that are discussed in all three places.

I generally just use the foam Wipe Out product and leave it to soak overnight - everything appears to come out pretty clean when I look with my borescope. But obviously I don’t have the time demands that you have. Thank you for the great tips as always!!

I've been using Iosso on all my firearms. And I use the Iosso triple action to clean and lube some of the areas on my presses as well because of how light of a lube it leaves behind.

Great video thanks for sharing how to clean a rifle and the products to use.

I love those triangular patches for my 6.5 Creedmoor. Though I never see anyone else using them. At the range all the other precision shooters are using traditional square patches. Glad to see "the Expert" also uses the triangular ones.

I have used Iosso cleaner for sometime now and really like using it. After watching your video with Speedy I started using Patch-out in conjunction with it. I have had fantastic results since, especially on first round impacts after cleaning.

I love wipeout I’ve been using it for years! Will continue using it. I don’t use the accelerator I just let it sit overnight. Works great for my hunting rifles when Time between cleans is not an issue. Just clean carbon out first then oil after the wipeout it’s beautiful. Extremely clean and safe

Techron fuel injector cleaner cleans carbon from engine top ends. I've used it, and my buddies dad used it on my recommendation after basically everything wouldn't take out the ring. He let it 5-10 minutes on a soaked patch around a brush came back and 1 patch of patch out after and it was gone immediately.

I will continue to use CLR, it works great and see absolutely no reason to quit

Eds Red works great, is cheap, and easy to mix up. Unfortunately, most folks think if you don't pay 50 bucks for a 4 ounce bottle, it's no good.

After years of cleaning barells for benchrest and testing it all. Thorro is the minimum of effort and time and give best perfect result to a low cost in my opinion. You make great videos Erik!

I picked up some bore tech eliminator and that stuff works amazing compared to clp or anything else I've tried

Bore cleaning videos are the best videos of Erik. It's like watching a tibetan monk practicing a meditation.

After watching one of your videos I used CLR to clean a suppressor brake that had tons of build up. CLR cleaned it like a champ. Cleaned the finish off the YHM brake also. Such is life.

You should have tried the Lou Merdica drill method and showed us the bore scope pics. Many used gm top engine cleaner for carbon in Benchrest.

Amazing Eric👍👍 I've been using Sharp Shooter products and alcohol as the primary cleaner for barrels for years with a patch of Hoppe's #9 at the end just for the smell😉and haven't had any problems keeping barrels clean. Iosso brushes are the best, something about that blue color just makes em' work better. CLR works good in my coffee machine, no reason to doubt its effectiveness in a gun barrel. Voided warranty....Hogwash!

Hi Eric I’ve never tried CLR but carb out as you say is great it softens the carbon so it can then be brushed out like you I use the nylon brush, do you ever use a bronze brush? Great video keep them coming 👍

Wow, good to know. Thanks Erik

I've been using bore tech c4 carbon remover.put some on a patch let it soak on your carbon ring and it's gone .haven't had to scrub a carbon ring .best I've used yet.

I used to use Kroils for carbon removal but it's gotten expensive. CRC makes a penetrating oil called Knocker Loose that is better than Kroils.

I usually worry about a warranty if it pertains to electronics or moving parts,not a piece of steel.

As a rifle builder, I tend to assemble my rifles from a list of components. so my rifles are never going back to "the factory" anyway. On the off chance I buy a completed rifle from someone else, they've got exacting one chance to get it right, after that I'll be taking care of whatever problems arise. Besides that, in my opinion, barrels are consumables, just like brake pads on a race car. Therefore, I will continue to use CLR for My Stainless Steel barrels as it has given excellent results.

I always love watching your videos, very informative, I noticed a nice protector piece over the stock between the butt of the gun and the action that I have never seen before, is that custom or is there a place I can get them

I too use Carb out and patch out

It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong, and I am a giant among men in that regard...Thanks for giving a solution to the problem and the demonstration.

That double rifle rack is nice, I had to break down and order one last time I placed and order with them.

Going to be honest I rarely clean barrels (and get better results because I'm not chasing perfection, just

I've met a lot of old shooters with some very weird cancers and illnesses. It may be worth protecting oneself from skin absorption of these hard chemicals.

I enjoy leasing to you and learning new tips also . God bless you

After bore is cleaned use a final film of Hoppes

I've always wondered if the purple cleaner called SuperClean would take the carbon out better. You'd have to wear gloves because it takes all the oil out of your skin real deep. It worked good cleaning an engine one time. It's a definite way to get rid of oils for sure and it does go after carbon but not sure how well on a barrel.

Boretech c4 works really good for straight carbon.

I have been using this stuff to clean the cylinder on my stainless revolver for a few years with no problems.

"Don't use CLR. If you do, we're going to void your warranty." "Did you clean it with CLR? You're gonna say yes Guess what they're going to void your warranty. Even if the issue they have wasn't caused by CLR" Sounds to me like some manufacturers need to read up on the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act here in the US. Because that's not an acceptable way to void a warranty. Would be like you installing some aftermarket tires on your car, then the manufacturer denying coverage on your heated seats that stop working... BS! Why so much hate for poor old CLR here! lol

The cva bore blaster gel and foam actually does remove rust

What about “Butch’s Bore Shine”? Do have any experience with it? I’ve used it for years. It was recommended to me by someone who also shoots competitions.

Used only ThorroClean at the last Super Shoot in St Louis. Had the guy from Hakaye how was there look through my barrel, and his remarks were it was very clean without any copper or carbon. At the time this barrel had 1500 rounds thru it. I clean after every group. Another reason to use Thorro is it is very mild on your skin. that is a bigger reason for me to use it.

Wait, we have a warranty? Hows that work? I have a bunch of barrels that have 1800 to 3000 rounds on them that no longer perform as they once did.

I like the Boretech products a bunch but man CLR works better then anything I've ever used... just don't be a dummy and soak your barrel down and leave it in there for long periods of time. Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!

You might try some 2000 grit scotch bright patches for hard carbon lubed with Kroil. At 2000 grit its way too fine to harm the barrel but it has enough grit to capture the carbon. Sometimes I put some IOSSO paste on the 2000 grit scotch bright patch.

I would say, use a mfg approved cleaner on a new rifle until you know it has no issues, then use CLR. I'm new to reloading, are bushings to adjust neck tension necessary or worth it for precision? I'm loading a Howa 1500, 300 PRC.

I alternate CLR patch and bronze brush around 5-8 times… until way less black on patch. Then alternate patch out/accelerator and bronze brush around 5-8 times. Then borescope. Usually that’s enough… if not then I might apply JB bore paste on a patch. If warranties keep you awake at night don’t use CLR. But if you want carbon out quick… CLR and bronze brush… go quick and limit dwell time. Alcohol and dry patches between different solvents. I finish my barrel with 2 wet patches of G96 CLP then a dry patch. Cleaning is way faster and easier after 50rds than after 250rds !!!! I like fast and easy.

If your rifle has a stainless steel barrel, you can use a lead cleaning cloth. It's really effective for carbon and lead, but it also works on copper fouling. Just cut off the right size and run it down the barrel. I use it on my stainless steel pistol also. I've cleaned the barrel with hoppe's and a brush...then clean patches thinking it is clean. Then run the lead cloth and it comes out with carbon on it.

Erik ,great video as usual 👍 here another total different question: how do you set seating depth steps of 0,003 " and measure them by caliper ??

Kroil penetrating oil plus iosso soak a half hr, works good

For those in the US needing warranty, just quote the Magnuson-Moss Act. Voiding warranty for these reasons is illegal, unless they prove it to be the cause of damage.

The MSDS for CLR lists only two active ingredients. Neither would sound aggressive to me, but they are also very specific about not using CLR on any metals besides stainless steel and chrome. Which also seems odd for a household plumbing/cleaning product. But apparently there is some basis for not using it on at least some barrels. Unless some barrel makers are just going hypercautious after finding something they're not talking about?

Erik even though its a nylon brush would it not hurt your crown running it all the way out just wondering

C4 boretech carbon remover works great.

Anybody notice if you use boretech c4 at very low round count the barrels cleans up very easily? Like less than 100 shots before cleanings.

Hello. First time watching you or your video(s). Good "Show and Tell" type explanation & instruction. What I do not understand is why you do not use a wire bristle bore brush to clean out the carbon? It is your You Tube channel and your rifles so you can do what you want to. Cloth patches should be used after some passes with the bore brush. Cloth patches and liquid cleaner could take a very long time. In the USMC and later in the Army we used wire bristle bore brushes, liquid bore / chamber cleaner, and then cloth patches. We shot many more rounds than single-shot Benchrest shooters do.

Looks like that might be the blue iosso brush but can I ask what jag you prefer to use?

Would half expect that a manufacturer that would void a warranty before ever examining a allegedly defective product, as a out, lack efficacy and integrity, and would predispose me to never doing business with them again, and probably others, as word does get around.

I use CLR for taking out the carbon in my ARs. It is the only thing I have found that will clean the bolt and barrel extension. It does not damage nitriding. It WILL remove bluing.

So no CLR, what about Free All? I use it and it incredibly effective on carbon, loosens it up and get a bunch out on first patch.

I've tried several bore cleaning products and they all came up short. Recently I used Montana Extreme products, their Copper Killer and their Bore Solvent. I was so hopeful that these would work perfectly, especially since it contains Ammonia which is supposed to dissolve copper. It wasn't to be of course. I've let them sit in the barrel for over 2 hours and still it didn't do any better than anything else. I was very disappointed. I can't return it so I'll just use it up and find something else. Kroil + JB is the only thing I've found that will TRULY clean out a bore. I would just rather have a chemical process as opposed to a mechanical one, but Kroil + JB is the best I've found so far. 30 to 50 strokes is all that's needed, and I don't have to let things soak for mins or hours.

Man, all that and still have a carbon ring. I use C4 carbon remover, let it sit in the chamber for 10 minutes, give it a few twists with the patch, pull it out the chamber and then run one wet patch, two dry patches and it comes out perfectly clean with no carbon.

Did you get the carbon easier out with the CLR?

Seems like I have used everything under the sun. A long time ago I bought a tube of IOSSO, like a tube of tooth paste. It worked better than anything else I had ever used. I still have some of it, gotta be 20 years old. But lately I have been using the patch-out/Wipeout.

Hi Eric, Wondering what you think of the Bore Tech products? P.S, I’ve been using CLR to soak my breechplugs for my muzzleloaders.

I use CLR on all my rifles, followed by alcohol, then CPL. I patch out, each time, and finish with Lanox ( an Australian product )

carbon you get also in a furnace ,maybe a furnace cleaner could work

I still have lots of the old Barnes Copper remover. CLR CANT be harsher than Barnes?? Been using it 25 years and no issues.

I like using Bore Tech Carbon Remover.

I wonder what carburetor carb cleaner would do? I spray that stuff on carbs, injectors and even EGR valves. It takes the carbon and gunk off of all that stuff.

I understand the accuracy potential of my barrel before the first cleaning. Then I use CLR as necessary lol. I just can’t imagine a situation wherein I’d have already cleaned the barrel and afterward be going in for the warranty claim.

"Why, NO, I'm not sure what CLR even is..." That's all you have to do.

No worries here, I’m sticking with CLR.

Can any of you recommend a borescope that will fit inside a .177 barrel?

Where can you get accelerator and patch out? Not in loal stores that I've found. Gave Sharp Shootr cc number by phone but did not get product charge never applied to my cc. Disappointing i couldn't get it.

What about diesel upper engine cleaner? Used to decarb and works a treat on far more precision equipment than a barrel?

Baking soda and vinegar. Add Dawn to clean patch it out

I mix up sometging similar to eds red and use a synthetic injector cleaner thatbworks really well on stubborn carbon. If it dont eat injector tips or aluminum heads it damn sure wont hurt a gun barrel.

What do you think about using diluted CLR to clean brass?

sir...? What is this "warranty" you speak of? is there a year or number of rounds warranty? Details please

What grease are you using on the bolt? Thanks!

I appreciate how the barrel manufacturers may feel about CLR. But with that said I reload a lot of old brass that I find at the range and restore for practice hunting loads and shooting time at the range. I soak the old brass in a bucket that I top off with CLR. And let me just say it cleans up the brass inside like no other and its cheap enough to really top off half or more of a 5 gallon bucket, even if you need to reduce some of the CLR with water just to save on volume.

Cool video, pls try some thorro clean from bullet central, sure think u might like it...⚡️💥

re carbon ring,, did i undestand you let a wet patch sit there in the throat? thx. carbon is difficult to get out of the "fire cracking" you showed.. (& said you didn't know what was going on there, 16.20)

Erik, what are those rifle stands you're using?

What jags do you use? Thank you sir.

I would like to know the reasoning for voiding warranties if CLR has been used - it's not like they have 100% tested every other product on the market, so I wonder if they actually did some testing with CLR and found some kind of issue?

After seeing how well it worked for you I have tried and it works amazingly. I don’t care about the warranty. I’m still using it. Plus it’s cheap.

What grease do you use for your bolt?

Unless the warranty has a spec (which CLR can't meet) for what should be used to clean the barrel or has an exclusion in writing that says you can't use CLR, they can't just void your warranty because you used it.

Would it be good to follow with light oil in the bore until next time shooting?

Thanks!

Can't find the Carb-Out anywhere.

This probably happened becasue Ol' Windy called all the manufacturers and told them.

Have you tried gunzila or copperzila? Works great

I have been testing Kroil oil for cleaning , thoughts I have good results !

BoreTech Eliminator works well.