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STOP using FLUOROCARBON for Spinning Reels
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Күн бұрын5 Reasons why you should spool all your spinning rod setups to braid to fluorocarbon leader line. Find out why this will help you catch more fish & save you a ton of money! Once you have master your favorite braid to fluoro connection knot, you will never turn back. For years I was a hardcore all fluorocarbon user on my spinning reels. However, after lots of experimenting, I’ve made the switch almost entirely to braid to fluorocarbon on my spinning reels. Here’s why you should use a braid to fluorocarbon leader on spinning reel!
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@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
*Any finesse techniques that you believe are not fit for braid to fluoro/mono setups?*
@morganyoder4277 3 жыл бұрын
You can always use braid to fluoro, all you have to do is change leader length/strength based on the situation.
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree
@morganyoder4277 3 жыл бұрын
@@HellaBass quick question. I'm out in cali, and I've gotten 5+ pounders on spinning tackle, and my current leader is 15 lb invizx. Do you think getting 12 lb or 10 lb line (I want to try gold label) would aid in my amount of hook ups (I have water from 6 in vis to 15+ ft)? Also do you think I could boat flip a 4 pounder on 10-12 line (I often have to boat flip fish out of necessity)?
@kyleerickson6445 3 жыл бұрын
I throw tubes on straight fluorocarbon all the time.
@morganyoder4277 3 жыл бұрын
@@kyleerickson6445 what pound test?
@timg185 2 жыл бұрын
I use braid to flouro on a few rods. I’m still not crazy about it. The knot passing through the guides can affect casting distance and accuracy . Especially on light lures.
@HellaBass 2 жыл бұрын
In the end, gotta do what works for you. Advantages out weigh the hurdles for me
@muskyvictim Жыл бұрын
Exactly! My problem right now! All these jdm swimbaits 1-2 ounces and when I use 25 lb FC so hard to tie , have to shorten it to 1 meter or less to avoid tip guide ...
@trajanmcbroom4218 3 жыл бұрын
I would recommend the fg knot. Don’t be intimidated by the knot, it’s actually pretty easy to tie. The small profile of the fg knot is perfect for tying a long leader that you can reel right up into your spool. It protects the Fluoro at the knot so it doesn’t fray when going out the guides. Another great thing about the fg knot is that it is such a strong knot. A lot of the time the knot at the lure breaks instead of the leader when I use the fg knot, which is awesome because I don’t have to tie another leader.
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
It's a great knot, the thing holding me back on FG is ability to tie quickly on the water in a tournament
@willjunkin732 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of great info. I switched to braid on my spinning setups. Normally only use about 4 or 5 feet of leader. 👍🏻
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Leader length is definently personal preference, it's worth exploring longer and shorter for certain techniques
@bassmastermatt 3 жыл бұрын
I'm all over on my spinning setups right now. Still have a couple full mono reels for small surface/reaction baits such as smaller Pop-R or small jerkbaits. I don't have any BFS reels yet...... I then have a couple with braid/fluoro as you discussed. I think I have a straight braid typically as well for finesse near docks. I found I like the Alberto knot best. Keep up the how to videos!
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Alberto is Stout!
@kylemolletfishing9123 3 жыл бұрын
100% of my rods are braid to leader with an FG knot. It was hard to learn and took a long time to tie it, but once I figured out a good system of tying it, I can now do it in less than a minute. It is definitely the only connection knot that I will use. I have never had it fail on me. Great stuff as usual, Rich. Tight lines buddy.
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, I've never had anyone question strength of FG knot
@kylemolletfishing9123 3 жыл бұрын
@@HellaBass I've literally snapped hooks before the knot failed.
@brendanandrews9590 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I’ll recommend everyone to try is using mono instead of floro for your leader material. Unless you are fishing 15+ foot of visibility, mono is not going to get you less bites. Floro is incredibly brittle, especially in short sections like most people use for leaders. Mono has much stronger knot strength and has the stretch to absorb the shock from a hook set and fighting a fish. This is more important when your using braid to leader for heavy applications like I do, but even with a spinning rod there are some serious benefits to mono over floro.
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
I use mono leaders for topwaters all the time, you make some good points, might be worth experimenting on flipping setup, you make some good points.
@dong8307 3 жыл бұрын
Made the switch years ago and really like it. Good info.
@jessecooper9795 3 жыл бұрын
Made the switch about 4 years ago. The difference is like night and day. Another benefit is the increased casting distance. It's crazy how I can throw an okashira head with a 3 inch spark shad. Definitely a game changer! Great video! 💪🎣
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Thnx for the comment Jesse. What is your go to Spark Shad color?
@jessecooper9795 3 жыл бұрын
@@HellaBass was actually watching your Mississippi river vid lol. Down here it all depends on water clarity. Albino in clear water and the USA Lemon Shad in stained for spotted bass on the river. Definitely gotta have the super glue on the hook shank!
@WhatsGoinOnBrah 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome info again. Spooling most of my lines this weekend. Initially thought cops were coming for you with the amount of tips/secrets you give out on a weekly basis. Lol. Good Job Rich, Thanks again.
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha that's funny
@bobpayseno7481 3 жыл бұрын
I certainly learned some new things about when to vary my leader on various techniques and how I can save $ on tying flourocarbon to braid on my spinning gear. Thanks so much for sharing Rich, great video! 👍😊
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome to hear Bob!
@AngryOtter614 2 жыл бұрын
I don't switch on all of my outfits, if I have 30lb braid spooled, it's for a reason. If you tie on a 12lb flouro leader, your now fishing 12lb line, unless the braid is nicked bad somewhere, if the line breaks, it's going to break where the flouro is ties to the lure or the connection knot. I fish in stained/tannic water alot also. I think some people just use flouro leaders without even considering if it's necessary.
@JRoost 3 жыл бұрын
Tying knots always have intimidated me. I have fumble fingers and it’s always turned me away from braid to flurocarbon. The double uni knot looks easy enough for me to tie. So I’m finally going to try braid to fluro. I’ve always used mono.
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck, you can do braid to mono as well
@foad-esad Жыл бұрын
I'm also going to try a double uni on my braid to fluro leader
@bobdavis7853 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff as always. Thanks 🎣
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Thnx Bob 🤘
@dorianjones8150 3 жыл бұрын
I originally learned the uni to uni and ran w that for a while. I'm now using the fg knot, I haven't perfected it, I get it right usually but don't do it super fast yet. The strength of it is unbelievable and the knot easily comes through line guide on my baitcsaster, even Daiwa TWS.
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! There are several good knots, all about execution & practice
@simonzehr5273 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Easter HellaBass! Love you vids.
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Thnx Bud, happy Easter to you and yours
@acon2834 2 жыл бұрын
Mastered the double uni. Made the switch last season, upped my game %100, both in catches, and enjoyment. Use mostly 15-20 lb braid to 12-15 Red Label.
@HellaBass 2 жыл бұрын
very nice!
@muskyvictim Жыл бұрын
How long fc ? I try to avoid over 2-3 feet / meter so does not touch tip guide.. is that too short ? Can I use only 20-30 cm leader?
@mod-lfishingandoutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t switched yet, this video is very interesting! I think I might have to make the switch.
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
I would definitely recommend testing on one of your setups and see what you think
@jackwelch58 3 жыл бұрын
Best net job in the game!!
@jordanstarr6261 Жыл бұрын
I used to always run full braid or braid to a leader, but I have had big problems with wind-knots. I just made the switch to full fluorocarbon to try to fix that problem.
@HellaBass Жыл бұрын
That is weird, I feel like wind knots are worse for me with straight fluoro or mono
@RichZFishes 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't fished anything but braid to flouro on spinning gear (or most casting rod applications) in years. I do use straight braid on casting gear for spinnerbaits and for jig fishing and flipping, if there's no rocks involved, and for topwater fishing, I prefer braid to mono, just because I don't want a sinking line to fish a topwater.
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a solid system!
@fadetoblack2888 Жыл бұрын
I did an FG knot braid to fluro for a bit and found it more of a hassle then it's worth. Sure you can cast further, it saves money on line, it's more sensitive with less stretch, and it's stronger... But casting any knot through the eyelets tends to cause a lot more wind knots as it slows down the line mid cast which just means more time untangling knots or cutting and tieing on a new leader. And the only solution is a short leader that you cast outside of the eyelets which is annoying. Which brings me to my second issue, which is constantly having to change the leader after each trip because you're either cutting down the leader because your rerigging or the line has some abrasions on it and not the line is too short to use next trip, or it cot snagged or you got broke off and keep shortening the line. Or just because you used it a lot the last trip and you want to make sure you don't lose a fish because the line snapped because it was compromised. Either way, you're constantly replacing that leader... And having to do that during the trip is annoying, and so is doing it before or after every trip. So for me I just can't justify it. I'd rather just fish straight braid and get the same benefits without having to deal with the BS. Or just lose out on some benefits and just throw out straight flurocarbon for the sake of invisibility in the water. Either way is better then dealing with the aforementioned issues. If anyone has a solution I'm more then welcome to consider any suggestions to improve my experience in dealing with a leader line.
@rogerdudra178 3 жыл бұрын
I never wanted fluorocarbon for anything other than a translucent leader to fish any of the Montana water I was on.
@dualthreatoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
I tried a good 3-4 years to make this switch. Never could get the connection knot good enough where it didn’t break at the leader when I got stuck. Outside of casting distance I really don’t see a huge advantage. I miss very few fish on straight floro, and there’s still a lot less stretch with floro than mono. Randy Blaukat did a few videos explaining that there aren’t a huge amount of advantages to making the switch. It definitely works for some but isn’t for everyone
@HellaBass 2 жыл бұрын
In the end, gotta do what works for you
@rogerdudra178 3 жыл бұрын
The ONLY way I will use fluorocarbon line is as a leader to braid line for fishing Montana water. I tried straight fluoro on my Pflueger reels and it sprung off the spool regardless of the care I took using it with a spinning reel. I never had exposure to other reel types.
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, line management is a big part of the benefits for sure
@basschaser9356 3 жыл бұрын
Switch a few years ago and never look back. 10-15 lb Braid to flouro using Alberto knot because you can change the lb test for flouro from 6-10lb depending what techniques you doing. From dropshot, neko, ned, wacky
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
absolutely, had planned to mention the ability to switch leader size depending on situation
@basschaser9356 3 жыл бұрын
@@HellaBass I on my 2nd year now on 15lb briad power pro . Still tough as new. Just waiting for MN bass opener
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I got braid on my reals that is probably 4 years old lol. I think I will be driving to River or WI soon, can't wait
@shamrock5725 Жыл бұрын
Omg, I've been doing it all wrong this whole time. Goat hair to horse hair is not only time consuming but really expensive. This is gonna save me a ton of time 😜
@HellaBass Жыл бұрын
😁😄😁😄😁😄😁
@Lsmoe Жыл бұрын
I will try this for sure !! I use the alberto knot love it !! Hey at 7:02 you said Old Ned Rigger right ? Lmao just checking !! Thanks for the video
@TheTinHorseMonty 3 жыл бұрын
Great tips Rich. Agree 100%
@davidshields1726 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely switched. ,I need to live with the aggravation of coils or having to let line out behind the boat constantly. Double uni for me!!
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
I don't miss stretching line out while fast idling lol
@rustyscopano2667 3 жыл бұрын
Already switched. Now if I can just master that FG Knot
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Tricky one for sure, but great knot
@AAE-cg1il Жыл бұрын
I went the other way. I stopped fishing braid with Fluoro leader and now fish straight Fluoro. I have not noticed any lost sensitivity, and my hooksets are no different. What I have noticed. Is I save time on retying FG knots…….and no more mysterious midspool break offs. My leader knots don’t ever fail because I don’t have any. Most wind knots are caused by imperfections in casting method. Telling people who get an occasional wind knot on Fluoro that switching to braid is going to solve that is false advertising. They will probably get more….only the knots will be tighter and that much harder to remove……and you will Frey the line doing so.
@HellaBass Жыл бұрын
If it works for you, rock it 🤘
@SJBassin Жыл бұрын
Love Hella's videos but I think everyone is different on their setups.I am the same here as I stopped using braid (No braid at all unless it's a back up reel I throw in the trunk for the summer) to Mono/Flouro because of the same reasons. Also I found more wind knots when I was using Braid. My lost lures due to snap offs on casts completely stopped. To each their own but the cost to benefits ratio wasn't worth the cost to me. I switch out line at the end of the year/season and that's about it. I also soak the mono in hot tap water on the spool right after respooling and that has eliminated 99% of loops/memory I had back in the day. Stretch doesn't affect me because 90% of my casts are within 30 feet and for long casts I switched out from heavy wire hooks to lighter Laser sharp hooks that just stick in the fish's face no matter the cast distance. Also if your using 15lb braid to 6 pound flouro how much casting difference could you possibly see or need for that matter (I shore fish so maybe this doesn't affect me) ? I am braid free and my catch ratios have went up, my lure losses went down and my line costs have gone WAY down. I spend maybe $3 a season on line per reel and that is high considering I buy it in bulk spools so it is probably even less than that. Anyways great video and info as usual. Keep em comin.
@user-un5my5bw4j 3 ай бұрын
Same, i no longer run braid at all and I run straight Flurocarbon. All I fish for is walleye
@richardj6593 2 жыл бұрын
The next big innovation in line will be the elimination of knots between braid and fluorocarbon and use of a bonding agent and/or a small micro sleeve each line end can feed into and be sealed with heat or epoxy to bond the two lines together. People hate tying knots and a good engineer will put an end to the cumbersome knots. I am working on some innovations now to solve this problem..
@HellaBass 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds Aweseome, can't wait!
@deweyknight3969 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly my leader will break before my knot- love the braid to flours but like you said I’ll throw straight flour with a crank bait like a #5 shad rap
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, if you tie a good connection knot that should be the case
@GreyChannelBanner 4 ай бұрын
Wait what should the weight ratio be? 15lb braid and 10lb mono or both are 10?
@HellaBass 3 ай бұрын
Either of those ratios work, I've used 30lb braid to 10 leader and 10lb braid to 16lb leaders
@natesomers5387 3 жыл бұрын
Braid and fluro has been my thing for a long time but I keep one spinning spooled with fluro for cracking tubes and small balsa cranks!!! Do you use sinking braid??? It’s awesome for a lot of techniques
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't used a lot of sinking braid but it makes sense
@jayd2535 3 жыл бұрын
Please make this kind of video with baitcasters!
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
I am still trying to figure out if braid to leader is right for me on casting stuff
@AmateurFloridaInshoreSportsman Жыл бұрын
Based on my experience: Spinning reel- braid to mono. Baitcast reel- straight fluorocarbon Spincast reel- straight light braid ( great for panfish ) Centerpin reel- straight mono Level wind reels- heavy 30lb+ mono straight
@HellaBass Жыл бұрын
good summary
@AmateurFloridaInshoreSportsman Жыл бұрын
@@HellaBass 😎
@morganyoder4277 3 жыл бұрын
+1 on braid to fluoro, there is no better.
@jarrodbriggs8246 Жыл бұрын
I put some sunline super sniper fluorocarbon on my spinning rod once.Typically I’m great about putting line on with no twists or issues. First cast my line started spitting off my reel just as fast as if I was casting. Anyways about a half an hour later and half my spool left with line I finally got it under control to use that rod for the day. Was wondering if anyone has had this happen so scared to try it on my casters. I watched like 30 bucks blow up in my face I was pissed and in shock.
@HellaBass Жыл бұрын
What pound test was the sniper? And what size spinning reel?
@craigsmith-kt6tu 3 жыл бұрын
I tried had to much trouble with the braid wrapping around the guides.
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
there can be a bit of that, try a longer fluoro leader and I think it depends on the style of guides have improved styles to reduce that
@gregoryjones9071 3 жыл бұрын
Yep!!.. all over it!
@dariusking2927 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t get the FG knot thing 😂😂 You can do a RP knot in a minute can be reeled in to the spool and go’s through the rod great and has never let me down once . Sometimes l think people over thinks this stuff 😂😂 Great show Rich
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
I kinda agree, I think RP and Alberto are all a guy needs
@DouglasSubbs 3 жыл бұрын
@@HellaBass thats what i use. In my garage getting ready for the next day i tie Alberto. On the water, I tie the RP.
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Makes sense
@johnloxley8705 Жыл бұрын
I’m looking at changing my braid mainline to straight through fluorocarbon for trout on a clear river this spring ….. so do you think this is a mistake and as I’ve been using a 1m leader attached to my braid should I just add say 4-5m of fluorocarbon leader instead ??? Just I’m a bit of a novice at trout fishing so hoping your info will help … thankyou 😁👍🎣
@HellaBass Жыл бұрын
Need fished trout, but I would think longer leader would be better
@johnloxley8705 Жыл бұрын
@@HellaBass thank you for your reply. That’s weird as I was thinking the same thing. At least now I know I am on the right road and I think that’s what I will do. Even something about 10 foot long won’t hurt I’m sure. But thank you so much and all the best 👍😁🎣
@TheAlaskanDude Жыл бұрын
I've been mono straight for a while I'm doing a experiment mono vs fluro 10 lb I'm eventually going to try this
@HellaBass Жыл бұрын
I think you will like it
@TheAlaskanDude Жыл бұрын
@@HellaBassI'm trying 20lb braid to 10lb fluro leader for soft plastic baits to experiment still learning the Alberto knot
@HellaBass Жыл бұрын
Good place to start
@muskyvictim Жыл бұрын
I use fluoro as leader more for toothy pike or muskie lurking around than visibility issue with braid, up here in Northern Michigan/ America . Yeah I fish for bass too
@HellaBass Жыл бұрын
I have some bass swimbait buddies that swear by heavy fluoro leaders to save expensive big baits from pike
@muskyvictim Жыл бұрын
@@HellaBass I know, have 130 lb ones from company in Wisconsin I order online but figured out was losing too much action on the 1-2 ounce swimbaits ( and topwater wp) with those, since fishing for bass too.. it's difficult so now trying saegar 25# leader for all, but guess what seagar too stiff. THANKS FIR FOR REPLY!
@HellaBass Жыл бұрын
I had a guest break that down on a stream, here is a link to the spot in the stream, hope that helps - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/itijlaSJptTXkXU.html
@muskyvictim Жыл бұрын
@@HellaBass thanks Hellabass will check . As we were writing I was trying out that Raid Japan GI , you're probably familiar, question , it came with a one inch single wire / swivel attached to the ring on lip? Am I supposed to remove it or use it , tie directly to it? Thanks if you have time Hellabass.
@HellaBass Жыл бұрын
Not sure about the Raid bait, ask SouthJerseyFisherman he would likely know
@Brizendine7 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve went braid to flour on all my spinning set ups
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!!
@tonyviers-de9qi Жыл бұрын
Heading up to canada for smallies , northern and walleye. Taking two spinning rigs. Should i spool one with braid / floro. One with mono? Or both with braid
@HellaBass Жыл бұрын
The only downside to braid to fluoro in my opinion is when its super rocky and snaggy, its harder to snap my baits free and if you are breaking off a lot, redoing leaders becomes time consuming, if you have never used braid to fluoro before, I would do once of each
@tonyviers-de9qi Жыл бұрын
@@HellaBass so you thing just straight mono would be good?
@HellaBass Жыл бұрын
Mono or fluoro, both good options
@amyfrazier8521 2 жыл бұрын
I seem to break off alot on the hook set with fluorocarbon and braid. What I doing wrong. Thanks
@HellaBass 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that. Few things you can change up. You can play around with different knots or leader lines. You may need to adjust your hookset, you definitely do not want to do a super hard snap set, more or a reeling sweep set will work better. Also, depending on rod and line sizes, you may need to go a rod with softer or slower action than you would use with straight fluoro or mono. If you want list your connection knot, rod model & action, braid & leader brands and sizes and what rigs you are fishing, I can give more specific feedback. Also, where is it breaking at the knot, above or below?
@TWC6724 2 жыл бұрын
What’s you drag set at? If you are super tight, that might be the problem.
@lawrenceornelas3026 Жыл бұрын
Does the connection knot have any issues with the eyelets during casting?
@HellaBass Жыл бұрын
Not at all, Alberto or FG non-issue thru guides. Couple other good knots as well
@shadowscion Жыл бұрын
I mean some rods have micro guides that are really small and really close to the rod blank, not ideal
@HellaBass Жыл бұрын
Agreed, micro guides and connections knots are not a great combo
@FishINwithGRAMPS 3 жыл бұрын
I'm half and half right now, interested to you have you to say.
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
When do you prefer to use straight fluoro over braid to a leader?
@edwardcowan7012 3 жыл бұрын
Straight Mono has worked for me just fine for 50+ years and 2 BASS Masters Classics
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Ed, thanks for the comment, I very much respect what you have done through the Federation/Nation. Mono works for sure, still catches a ton of fish. Me personally, I am not willing to deal with the line management issues of straight mono or fluoro on a spinning real. Plus its a huge time savings to just swap a leader vs respooling. Have you ever experimented with braid to a mono leader? Love to hear your thoughts & what you prefer about Mono on a spinning setup. Tight Lines!
@krisjackson7227 Жыл бұрын
I do not use leaders. I just use mono backing and fill up with fluroro. I rather not have two weak areas between me and the bait.
@HellaBass Жыл бұрын
I use to think that way, once you dial in a good leader knot, not really an issue
@nickcavazos5718 3 жыл бұрын
So i used to run all braid to leader spinning setups, last year made 2 straight 6 and 8lb and loved it, for 2 trips. Respooled correct way using line and lure and loved it for 4 trips and now am respooled with braid..... to big of a hasslw for no benefit imho
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Nick I don't think I am following what you're saying
@nickcavazos5718 3 жыл бұрын
@@HellaBass everytime i would spool up with 6-8lb flouro or co poly on a spinning reel id love it until after a few trips. Even when i made sure line was spooled.onto reel correctly and used line conditioner and didnt have any issues id have to respool after 2 to 4 trips or id be fighting the line. Running all flouro isnt worth the hassle vs braid to flouro. Like u stated. Just a LOOOOONG whinded of saying agreed!!
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Ok got it, 100% agree
@tomalderman7598 Жыл бұрын
I just bought some 4# braid. It wouldn’t cast at all. Was like it had glue on it. Had to throw it in the garbage.
@HellaBass Жыл бұрын
I've never used anything less than 8-10 braid on spinning reels and never less than 30 on casting rods. Some of the really small braid digs in on it self on spools
@rickyhammer6832 3 жыл бұрын
Ey Rich,made the switch years ago only on one Rod tho, what causes the flouro to dig into braid on the Reel? Thanx.
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
So on your spinning reels, your flouro digs into braid? Or is your connection knot catching on stuff?
@rickyhammer6832 3 жыл бұрын
@@HellaBass Ya when I reel in the flouro seems like it wraps tighter on the Reel and digs into the Braid and sticks on the next cast,not always of course just enough to piss Me. Can't figure why !
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
What type and size of braid and fluoro are you using?
@rickyhammer6832 3 жыл бұрын
@@HellaBass 30 lb braid ,6-8 lb- sunline flouro,Braid too thick perhaps?
@rickyhammer6832 3 жыл бұрын
@@HellaBass I spent Years on Ca Delta throwing 10-17 lb Mono. Now in so cal and Havasu I had to switch to flouro and braid or strait one or the other.I still use mono for top water. The mono just doesn't get weird like Flouro to Me.
@zap7759 Жыл бұрын
Mono is still king for what spinning reels excel at, trout fishing.
@HellaBass Жыл бұрын
I will take your word for that, trout fishing is not in my wheel house
@zap7759 Жыл бұрын
@@HellaBass Yes sir, can tell the difference if fishing Lee's Ferry and Powell same trip.
@mattnguyen1672 Жыл бұрын
No. I need low stretch with the stealthiness it offers. Also the fact that it sinks helps with finesse techniques
@HellaBass Жыл бұрын
I would still use a sinking braid with a long fluoro leader
@mattnguyen1672 Жыл бұрын
@@HellaBass I was fishing with a friend. Using braid to fluro. Same keitech same weight. I was using straight fluoro. I caught 10. He caught 0. I thought hmm could be that he didn’t jig it right so I asked to trade and I fished for a while but no bite but he caught fish on my set up. That was all the evidence I needed.
@ShadowBassin 3 жыл бұрын
Because i'm stubborn and have 57 miles of AN40 Copolymer. I also use fast action med heavy rods with Massive old school Jean Claude Van Damme backflip style hooksets on lighter wire hooks. - In my opinion it accomplishes the same thing I see people doing on slower action rods with lighter hooksets compensating to not tear their heavier wire hooks out with the no stretch lines. ... Really I am just fishing what I know works and have never trusted braid because when it first came out it would eat the guides off your $170 top of the line rod in no time.
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Solid reasoning, I have a hefty reserve of AN40 in the basement if you ever run out
@timg185 4 ай бұрын
I’m not worried about my not breaking. I just hate that knot going through the guides and having to tie leaders on the water.
@HellaBass 4 сағат бұрын
That was my thought process at first, Totally worth it
@Fisherman_83 3 жыл бұрын
Made the switch for my bass spinning rods...
@Fisherman_83 3 жыл бұрын
And I am a new subscriber.
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, welcome to the crew 🤘
@brendanandrews9590 3 жыл бұрын
The other thing I’ll leave here is I fish braid to a leader on every setup I own. If you guys like it on spinning rods, try it on one of your casting rods. I use it in every casting setup I own, although sometimes if I’m cranking open water I’ll switch over to straight floro for the added stretch
@Garminrules 3 жыл бұрын
Switched 5 yrs ago, will never go back to straight mono or floro.....leader only...Rich is dead on right.
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Thnx Garry, wouldn't lead people astray
@lancemabry6707 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry Rich, gonna have to disagree on the thumbnail quote. Will never do a braid to fluro on any reel. Don't need it in my lakes.
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Lance - love to hear what advantage you see with straight fluoro on your spinning reels & why, love to hear all angles and views
@lancemabry6707 3 жыл бұрын
@@HellaBass yes sir. Lemme get home and actually watch full video after the game and will send it on sir.. Maybe it will change my mind who knows
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a deal
@lancemabry6707 3 жыл бұрын
@@HellaBass ok the 2nd knot is a problem for me mentally, but the 2 situations u made, shallow cranking and rocks.. Well in East TN except for Chickamauga, there is zero grass and all highland lakes, and 2 TVA lakes with no grass. Now the cost absolutely is an advantage I see for you guys, but I just can't see an application for where it's applicable except for cost. Also when I have tried braid on baitcasters it CONSTANTLY gets wrapped up on tip but thats another video I'm sure lol. Now if I lived in MN, which I went to Lake Vermillion for 14 straight years, and I miss going honestly, I'd definitely would have switched by now.. Hope all is well Rich
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Once you get your knot down, the leader should always break before the knot. Elimination of line Twist isna big deal for me and improved hooksets 👍🏻
@robbiebrown4653 2 жыл бұрын
Ive used braid to leader. Was breaking off to much. I think its just overated. Just my opinion...
@HellaBass 2 жыл бұрын
Might need to find a new knot, or possibly adjust your hooksets or use a more moderate action rod
@sycamore6065 3 жыл бұрын
The reason i don't use a leader on my braid or wire is cause i'm too damn lazy and I fish for fun.
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
hahah, even fishing for fun, you might find that its more fun with braid to fluoro & actually be easier because of line management
@timgrzybowski8800 3 жыл бұрын
St Croix tournament pro micro guides and knots suck....ugh
@HellaBass 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think that is why the industry has trended away from micros guides
@michaelbrohl1625 Жыл бұрын
Another knot means another possible point of failure. I use strait fluoro, 6 or 8 lb and am very happy with it. No leader necessary.
@HellaBass Жыл бұрын
I used to think that way, now that I am confident in my connection knots, I maintain that braid to leader has way more benefits than the downside of an additional knot
@daniellewis1318 2 жыл бұрын
my thing is i've used mono all my life and caught the same fish growing up in florida why change line choice now from mono i know the fish have not become superfish you people are just fools who spend your money in these so called super lines
@HellaBass 2 жыл бұрын
Don't fix what's not broken for you!
@craigd123 2 жыл бұрын
Dude still rides a horse and watches black and white TV
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