Stories Working for Aucoin Mgmt and the KISS Army from 1979

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Stories Working for Aucoin Mgmt and the KISS Army from 1979 - 1982

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Episode 511. Mark Brotter’s history includes working at Aucoin Management for 3 yrs, Boutwell/Kiss Army Warehouse for their last year. He was at Aucoin from ‘79 thru ‘82 post Dynasty, Unmasked, The Elder! At the time they they were holding auditions for drummers/Eric stepping in. He was also in charge of auditions there for Billy Idol’s 1st US band & John Waite’s Ignition tour band. Mark shares amazing stories from the most tumultuous period for KISS, including working privately for Gene Simmons and partying at Bill Aucoin’s apartment. Mark also shares with us the end of the KISS Army fan club, what was going on in the office.
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Since launching in 2012 Three Sides of the Coin has been viewed or listened to over 8,000,000 times. Three Sides of the Coin has been joined by special guests including Gene Simmons, Eric Singer, Ace Frehley, Bruce Kulick, Vinnie Vincent, Blackie Lawless, Rob Halford, Alice Cooper, Ted Nugent, Dennis DeYoung, Buck Dharma, Lydia Criss, Eddie Trunk, WWE/AEW Superstar and lead singer of Fozzy Chris Jericho, Angel lead guitarist Punky Meadows, Five Finger Death Punch members Jason Hook and Jeremy Spencer, Vinnie Vincent Invasion and Slaughter lead singer Mark Slaughter, Twisted Sister’s Dee Snider and Jay Jay French, comedian Craig Gass, KISS’ former business manager Chris Lendt, KISS art director Dennis Woloch, Head of KISS Security Big John Harte, the Black Veil Brides Andy Biersack, Ron Keel, Frank Munoz associate producer for Ace Frehley's Anomaly album, award-winning songwriter Adam Mitchell, Ed Kanon (Peter Criss' drum tech), Kevin Valentine (drummer on KISS' Psycho Circus album) and many, many more.
In the early '90s, Michael Brandvold launched the fifth ever website on the Internet devoted to KISS, KISS Otaku. He built, launched and maintained Kissonline.com (KISS' official web presence). He now owns Michael Brandvold Marketing, providing marketing services and digital strategy to musicians. Tommy Sommers spent 15 years on the record show circuit collecting, trading and selling memorabilia / Kiss merchandise. He is now a successful residential Real Estate agent in the Minneapolis / St. Paul area. Tommy has also produced a KISS song For The Oddfathers and is the owner of Rock Steady Digital Photography. Mark Cicchini, is a world-renown KISS collector. KISS has used parts of Mark’s vast KISS collection for audio, video & print materials including their book NOTHIN TO LOSE, CD re-release of the LOVE GUN album & the VH1 Ultimate Album KISS ALIVE! special as well as many other KISS projects. His wife also makes a mean meatloaf! Lisa Martini has been a KISS fan, almost since birth, thanks to her older brother introducing her to KISS in 1974! Born and raised in Pittsburgh, Lisa Martini has extensive experience in the music industry, from radio to production to merchandising, and also holds a degree in audio engineering. Over the years she’s worked at many KISS Expos. starting at the New York Expos in the mid-’90s to the present day. She’s been fortunate enough to have been part of many outstanding KISS moments, such as helping to launch the KISS fragrance and accompanying them to their induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
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@SDanCastle Жыл бұрын

I can totally vouch for Marks story of sending fans product from 251 S. Park Ave - I hadn’t received a dynasty songbook after months so mark sent me one right away - I stayed in touch and over the years he hooked me up with trips to aucoin at 645 Madison and introduced me to Gene the day before Thxgiving 1981 - later he introduced me to Billy Idol and got me tickets to idol’s ritz show in 82 - later he got me Tina Turner comeback lps when he worked at capitol - wonderful person who always had the fans in mind!!! Thanks for the interview!!!

@troymasters3315 Жыл бұрын

Great interview. I remember when I bought 'Killers', it was packaged as a double along with 'Dynasty' here in Australia. 'Nice Price' sticker on it. The record company released many of these for bands like early releases of double packs of records by The Clash etc. 2 for the price of one.

@utube41100 Жыл бұрын

This was pure gold. The amount of new information about the Kiss world that Mark revealed in this podcast, was priceless. He made me feel like a fly on the wall, when he talked about the last days of the Kiss army. If you were a Kiss fan in the late 70's, you must watch this video. This is in my top 10- 3 Side of the Coin videos. Congratulation! very well done.

@bj4505 Жыл бұрын

Another great guest from 3 Sides.Mark was fascinating to listen to.Thank You

@MichaelBrandvold Жыл бұрын

Thanks for listening

@kuriaki71 Жыл бұрын

Awesome interview

@papersleeves Жыл бұрын

Wow, another great guest! Mark brought a lot to the story here. I always found it interesting KISS didn't try to capitalize on the image of Eric as a new character and new member during the Elder era, missing the opportunity all together in the album art. Mark illustrates that the behind the scenes were chaotic and misdirected, it shows in how that record and it's release turned out. We can appreciate how the art in this case reflects upon the artist. Still I love the Elder! After I listen to an Episode of 3 Sides I usually cue up a KISS record and today it's that classic mess of a record. Thanks again 3 Sides!!

@MichaelBrandvold Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@user-nu8tl1xd9u 5 ай бұрын

I am arguably more fascinated with Aucoing management than KISS lol but both are great. Thank you to all parties for this interview.

@johnboy5177 Жыл бұрын

Another Great Episode You Guys Are Knocking It Out Of The Park

@TommySG1 Жыл бұрын

Cool episode guys, I’m new to this channel and you guys brought up so many interesting points! I’ve been a fan since Alive I, I was real young about 14 years old then. After Love Gun it all started spiraling down for them and Dynasty was the beginning of the end even though I Was Made for Loving You went gold. The comeback tour in 96’ was very cool, I went and saw them at MSG and it was an awesome show 🤙 I remember wishing that I could’ve seen them in their ‘Hey Day’ for the Alive I or even the Alive II show but I was a bit too young to go on my own sadly…

@romelovesdan Жыл бұрын

10 years hence....Three Sides still delivering the Goods!! That Boutwell talk and the Flo & Eddie "Paul as a kid picture" were revealing minutia! Thanks to Mark Brotter.

@edkizior Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great job you guys always do. Great guest!

@BartV7442 Жыл бұрын

Awesome Guest with great stories !!!!

@davidlapradejr8882 Жыл бұрын

Awesome show as usual keep up the great work

@berniecasey7592 Жыл бұрын

Wonderful Interview-at 56 he answered my KISS curiosity of that Time I was a fan since 1979 - amazing time period to 82

@LannieLord 8 ай бұрын

When The Elder came out ; you still saw the Gene and Paul solo records in the cut-out bins .

@SpaceAce2022 Жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed this interview! Didn’t know a lot about Mark and the stories he told, but glad I watched this. 👍

@MichaelBrandvold Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@83marceloa Жыл бұрын

I really appreciated it. I adore the turmoil between 1979/82 and the music too, obviously. I still want to learn more about the Unmasked period. How was the label and management reactions after listening to the album? How did the band behave when there was no North American tour? Perhaps the Aussie hysteria contributed to postpone what was about to come.

@kjnodwell Жыл бұрын

Great guest as always! Liked so many of his stories...of course the qualude/ bide one was hilarious!! Also enjoyed the one about him doing work on Gene's apartment, and how Mark got to know Gene better thru this experience. It was very interesting to get the perspective from someone who worked there who was not a fan. A couple of his comments really resonated with me. In particular, saying he felt the band was just buying time and running from their problems a bit. I could have listened to him for much longer...fascinating, great stuff !!

@bobbymartin7455 Жыл бұрын

Amazing stories!

@haroldgardner9530 Жыл бұрын

Anybody else hyped for the next soundboard? Animalize 84

@jblooz2371 Жыл бұрын

Anybody else hit the like button before even watching three sides?

@grandfallsarmy Жыл бұрын

Love his Anton Fig story 😂

@davidlapradejr8882 Жыл бұрын

It would have been great if creatures came out right after unmasked especially with a new wave of British heavy metal

@johnsoos6907 Жыл бұрын

My buddy Joe Nevolo (Drums) auditioned for KISS.

@firewind2471 Жыл бұрын

Paul ,in his book implied BIll Aucoin did some inappropriate things with kids . I never hear this bought up . If its not true then Pauls book should be off the shelf.If it is True then why did they wait to fire him. .If it is true then Kiss should never on their site remember him on the date he passed .. I know he helped them in the start but if he did those things,he does not not need ot be honored in any way ,quite the opposite if anything. It seems this is never covered tho .

@dvg4104 Жыл бұрын

Was it a case of Bill doing things with teenage boys while the band members were doing things with teenage girls?

@chuckvinyl811 Жыл бұрын

@@dvg4104 The difference is Bill would seek them as young as 14 . From what I have read KISS members only went down to 16 . Those 2 years are a big difference

@dvg4104 Жыл бұрын

@@chuckvinyl811 -- Those two years are significant. In both instances illegal, though. Maybe enough that the band didn't want to point fingers? Plus they felt indebted to Aucoin? Hindsight allows for more clarity.

@firewind2471 Жыл бұрын

@@dvg4104 i dont they were doing things with underage girls then.if so,then the same principle would apply .

@carlosabad6596 Жыл бұрын

@@dvg4104 Christine Sixteen may tell you.

@andrewbroughton65 Жыл бұрын

I'd just like to point out that Kiss in Australia 1981 was actually an Australasian tour..meaning they played New Zealand too.

@LannieLord 8 ай бұрын

If this guy was 13 in 1972 ................ dayum he looks good for his age !!

@metaphoria3 7 ай бұрын

Fr looks 30

@ecilassik Жыл бұрын

The story about the coke reminded me when I was first introduced to pot. A new friend asked me if I wanted to “smoke a bowl”……all I thought of was a cereal bowl and why the fuck would I want to smoke one. And how would you do it. I would have liked to ask him if he remembers anything about when Eric lived on Long Island in smithtown. There was an addressed envelope I saw on the Eric Carr website that Paul had sent him. It was addressed to Eric Carr and Panera Saint at a smithtown address. I passed the street for years on the way to my doctor. I couldn’t help to go by the house a few times to see if anyone was outside and tell them that “a guy from KISS had lived there once. Never saw anyone outside. The night before one appointment I photocopied a pic from the Creatures era and a photo of the envelope and got the nerve to actually go and knock on the door. A little kid answered who looked like 10-12 years old. Of course he knew nothing about KISS and I think he thought I was some kind of weirdo……I left my number in case his dad wanted to call me about it. I thought maybe his dad was a fan, or at least knew of the band. I think it was the next day the dad called. I told him the same thing I told the kid. He didn’t seem impressed one bit. And probably just wanted to make sure I wasn’t coming back for his kid or something. It was a pretty big house on a corner lot but he told me it wasn’t the original house anyway. When Eric was staying there I would have been 19-20 so it would have been easy to just go by, as I grew up only a few miles away and was already a major fan. I went to the palladium show…..it would have been around that time. Had I known then I might have been able to get a ride with him there. Lol. Great show.

@LannieLord 8 ай бұрын

One HUGE point that everyone is missing: 1979-1981 Lots of NEW music was coming out , lots of "punk and new wave". I myself was a "classic rock" teen all the way - then I discovered the Ramones, The Clash , etc. So that's one thing . The OTHER thing that , well, nobody here will ever admit to is , KISS is a band you grow OUT of (and remember, I am not speaking about TODAY - I'm talking about back then ). Just as someone can grow out of Van Halen & Black Sabbath . All I'm saying is -- something NEW comes along and the OLD is all of a sudden in trouble. THINK : when Guns & Roses HIT BIG (as well as Metallica!). Your Quiet Riot and Twisted Sister LPs and tapes may have lost their flavor. And then ..... Marilyn Manson !

@twinvasion7798 Жыл бұрын

If he would’ve auditioned in ‘80 and got to drum for KISS, his character could’ve been Mark “The Otter” Brotter! 🦦 🥁

@kth351twinvasion5 Жыл бұрын

🤣🦦🦦🦦🦦🦦🦦

@romelovesdan Жыл бұрын

Oh Boy Tommy was brewing with that Quaalude quip! He held back and delivered! Watch Peter Seller's in 'The Party"- that story would have fit in with that....

@leswadley6792 Жыл бұрын

I think kiss should not have stopped the merchandise when it did! In 1980 I was 6 yrs old and would have kept buying toys and such! My friends and I at school were asking what happened 🤷🏻‍♂️! Kiss was not cool with teenagers and such, but us younger kids still loved them!

@LannieLord 8 ай бұрын

KISS was never very popular with older teenagers . The cut off point seemed to be 15 or so.

@user-nu8tl1xd9u 5 ай бұрын

The more stories ya hear about Bill Aucoin and its wild to then see him do q & a's in the 1990s like he is the biggest square ever. If Bill were alive now he could just be his 'true self'. To be fair, some of the stories about Aucoin are a bit/very concerning and seemingly credibly as they come from multiple people, but the man is no longer here to defend himself so let's let it be, he has no family or anyone left behind so it will just go into the ether.

@user-nu8tl1xd9u 5 ай бұрын

Why did you not ask about the surprise birthday party for Diana Ross he attended !!?

@zumbifer Жыл бұрын

Hi how do you spell whats the name of the Cologne Paul likes... Shads...

@bobbymartin7455 Жыл бұрын

I did a quick search and it looks like Chaz

@zumbifer Жыл бұрын

@@bobbymartin7455 thank you 😊 yes theres Chaz cologne from that era

@metaphoria3 7 ай бұрын

Wait how old is this guy? ..vampyre

@LannieLord 8 ай бұрын

Is The Elder a response to Pink Floyd The Wall which was a humongous hit the year before ??????

@LannieLord 8 ай бұрын

I know a woman named MARIA , who does costumes in NYC for celebrities and rock stars - I was never told that she did KISS costumes !! I'm gonna have to find out ! Maria is small / short , dark features , ethnic looking . Hmmmm......