Amazing Richard H. Host was absolutely gaslighting our response.

South China Sea is not only a Philippine issue. It is an issue that concerns the whole world to keep it open and free. Why does the Philippine shoulder the whole burden of defending it? What’s wrong with working with the US, Japan, Australia, and other like minded nations in its defense?

First time i like how richard, and ronald did good here

Patrick was simply steel-manning the argument, though he became upset by the gaslighting statement and took it rather personally.

Patrick is being very naive. Philippines to stand up alone to China is like a 5 year old telling a full grown man do what he doesn’t want to do.

Mr patrick patapusin mo n muna na matapos ung sinasbi ni mr llamas do not interrupt po pra maintindihan nmin.

buti na lang wala na si Amy😂 Good conversation with Edu Mansanas😂

llamas has the deeper grasp of the issue.

As a Filipino American, don't rely too much at United States. US has its own interest. Most Americans think America first. Kaya mas maganda na palakasin natin ang hukbong sandatahan ng Pilipinas para hindi masyadong nabubully and stop government corruption. Dyan lang uunlad ang Pilipinas.

I hope Patrick’s questions are really for academic discussion rather than undermining our government’s efforts. 😔

Sir Patrick and Sec Llmas did explained well, very comprehensive and informative interpolation...Thnak you to all of you.

I hope they would let each of them finish talking no.

I love this,very good conversation ❤😂

Panira si Patrick Paez. Sana it was just Bok, Richard, and Sec

‘M for you Sec. Ronald Llamas…your ideas are correct.

Patrick is showing Poor journalism

#JusticeForEdu

If we do not defend at last resort sierra madre, we will not be defending anything in the future, if you do not value sovereignty its gone forever

I love the way the conversation goes . . . dialogical makikita mo ang punto de vista ng bawat isa . We have a long way to go kailangan talaga ang maging mapag-analiza sa lahat ng nangyayari sa ating bansa. Salute for the four of you. 🙏🙏🙏

sabat ng sabat si Patrick. Patapusin mo muna yung nagsasalita please! Napuputol yung importanteng point nung nagsasalita

This conversation is a WOW!!!

I agree to Ronal, Let us develop all our manufacturing industry.

We never had this problem with china when US based were in subic and clark.

healthy conversation with Richard Heydarian...very informative show. hope you will have more of this kind of this one...Kudos guys!!! intellectual conversation like this will help great minds to come out and think as well!

Very intelligent and enlightening discussion! 👏👏👏

If we host American nuclear capability, we won't even have to think about MDT. US will properly defend those waters and Filipinos reap the dividend.

Patrick is Amy in disguise

We should not stand alone on this issue and we should no agree to what china wants. The WPS and we should not be dictated how to defend our interest.

Agree with sir ronald Such act is tantamount to a eco fin sanction which china is more vulnerable and sensitive to. Mabuhay po sir ronald and the gang. Great exchange.

Hindi makapasok si sir llamas

This Patrick guy pretends as if he doesn't know what has happened and what is happening between the Philippines and China with regards to the wps. His arguments don't make any sense when confronted with the facts.

Richard, Ronald i- boycott na ninyo Storycon. You are supposed to be guests to provide your opinion not to be argued/debated with by the host.

Toxic Patrick!

R&R👏👏👏

Now you're arguing with each other which is china's goal.

They are relying to the US because of the mutual defense treaty and Philippines is a small country against China is not strong enough to fight them, so they need help from the US since there is existing treaty!

Why at?

IF ONLY coprruption in the government is eradicated, nakabili na sana tayo ng mga modernong pang giyera. whether we like it ot not we need to invest for our security.

I agree with Richard

Very good dialectics.

From what he’s shown, Patrick needs a deeper understanding of world geopolitics. His understanding of the Ukraine conflict and its NATO aspiration was awful and for bringing up the stand alone against China idea was very naive.

Nakakahingal pala manood ng conversation😂 🤣 Nakakapiga ng utak😆

MTD malakas na leverage against China for future negotiation...

Let us act together against China.

👍👍👍❤👏👏👏

???? Why???

We should prepare by whatever means available to us as a united Pilipino for any contingency and form of warfare facing us. In a grey area form of warfare which our government should know and how to respond appropriately, we should be able to respond and hold our ground until our allies support for us come, for this form of war. When an attack with the use of axes, knives, lance, as arms (old time weapons but also use when bullets run run out in today's war), however we define what it is and why it occurred should be considered as an armed attack for reasons well known to the attackers who are drilled about it in accordance with their party's goal of occupying the almost whole of South Sea China and West Philippine Sea, short of shooting war. We should realized tat at the moment the Chinese Coast Guard, under the People's Armed Police which in turn is under the China Military Commission together with the People Liberation Army and the People's Armed Militia, is primarily tasked to wage the maritime grey area warfare of China. The People's Armed Maritime Militia works in tandem with the Chinese Coast Guard. The PLA Navy ships are deployed in the background as ready support to the Chinese Coast Guard when circumstances need for it occur. China will not stop in their political pursuit of their aims. China already indoctrinated her people that the area covered by the nine dash line (South China Sea and West Philippine Sea) is China's territory and all others territorial claims by the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei Darussalam. If the grey area form of warfare will not succeed, will China resort to shooting war as second phase to achieve her aim or will it back track without fear of domestic backlash from her people who were made to believe wrongfully that the nine dash line is a heritage. Still we must be prepared as a united people and realistically, rely in whatever degree even too much, on the active support of our allies, particularly of USA, Japan, Australia, and other western nations to support us in whatever form of war that is or will be brought to the Philippines.

What kind of question is that? Losing Thomas Shoal?

The question is posed as if the Philippines has any other choice. The only reason why the CCP hasn't fully occupied the Philippines' EEZ is because of the its alliance and MDT with the USA.

Tama naman ang strategies ng pilipinas. Nagkakaproblema ang AFP sa tactical level. One obvious reason is they misread the CCG reaction to the recent supply mission. What I see it, the AFP does not do their homework. Why I said it? China is doing this to us time and time again but the AFP have not learned their lesson. Another reason is, we talked to much and less action Therefore, the problem in WPS is not China but us

Mabuhay kayo. On the issue of chenese shandong fleet moving to WPS. This same acts is applied by china to show its displeasure in whats happening in Taiwan. So alam nyo na.

Actually mas malaki ang economic interest ng US sa Taiwan kesa sa Pinas dahil doon nanggagaling ang mga sophisticated IC at electronic devices nila. Mas favorite nia ang Taiwan kesa sa atin. Furthermore, may tampo pa ang US dahil pinalayas ang military bases nila dito. Mas maganda gawin ng bansa natin ay ipersuade na lang ang US to store their heavy weapons sa North natin for incoming invasion of Taiwan. Sakyan natin yong issue ng China-Taiwan reunification. Pero it will serve also as a huge detterence against China and kung sakali magkaputukan sa WPS ay madali tayong matutulungan ng US forces. Kaya tama na ifortify yong North Philippines with US weapons and that is hitting 2 birds in one stone. Wag tayo pumayag na empty or for future use pa yong mga bases ng US lalo na yong nasa Norte. May critical use yon against China. Lukewarm yong response ng US pag WPS ang usapan at kaya ginaganito mga sundalo natin sa WPS.

I suggest mr. Llamas just leave this program. He is not given his due time to talk and elaborate. Surely, there are many other programs begging for his participation.

Patrick should wake up! Aminin na natin na di natin kaya ang China at kelangan natin leverage ang alliances natin. Tama si Richard Heydarian, gumawa tayo ng strategy natin as Philippines. We need like-minded countries para tulungan tayo ipressure ang China.

Why is our military seemingly trying to defend passage of chinese warships in the Sulu Sea BY SAYING THAT SHIPS USUALLY USE THAT sea for passage? Civilian ships? Yes; but battle shils? 4 of them all at tne same time. It looks like to me more like an invasion. Just my own thoughts.

A BIG YES! I live here in the US and that's what most people here think. We simply won't develop our own. A BIG part of it is our adherance to colonial mentality.

$5B sir llamas cost nung fake islands

Misunderstanding lng nmn pala not an arm attack 😅

Only mad men makes reasons just to justify anything they want, deplomacy with putin, that is stupid

who could be blamed for those artificial islands built in in our territory? so that filipinos my knew who betrayed them.

Sobrang slang..can't understand

Mr. "Boy Abunda" doesn't know what he is talking about

In digongs time fishermans where able to fish, and no agreggation with chinese coast guard see what happened now. Tumigil ka nga heydarian ikaw unahin mo makipag giyera

I used.to like Patrick. Susme !!!!

Stupid question, di nga umaasa yan pa tinanong!

GARBAGE interviewing-hosting skills. This isn't 'challenging' the merits of someone's ideas as much as it is "yeah but why NOT the other side's argument", as if these shallow counterpoints aren't already answered and obvious with all the news the past year or so (even longer). Tapos puro interrupting the guests before they can even complete a singe point

Nakita ko na yung point ni Sir Patrick, trabaho lang at walang personalan. As a journalist, kailangan laging tingnan ang both sides diba. More power to Storycon!

Mr. Heydarian finally shows he has a discrimination against the 🇨🇳 and 🇷🇺 ......There is no such thing as a Benevolent Empire....Moreover a rising one....Let that sink in

nandyan nman si UNCLE SAM, nandyan nman ang ASEAN NATION, nandyan nman ang G7. kailan kp tatayo sa sarili mong paa pilipinas para ipaglaban ang bansa mo at teritoryo

ang gulo naman ninyo, di ko maintintihan kapag sabay-sabay kayong nagsasalita

Di talaga maka salita ng maayos ang guest lagi. Hahahaa. Kumuha pa kayo ng guest.

nakakatawa kasi puro sila dilawan sa convo.

Why when US colonize Philipine no one wants to fight, now you want to fight with your neibour?

Cge ba inglis2 kamo dyan..do you expect that majority of the people listen to you? Naga pa contest kayo who speaks better in english..hahahaha

Pag nakuha ng China ang WPS sa Pilipinas dapat alisin na rin natin ang MDT at palakasin natin ang AFP para irespeto tayo ng bang bansa, asa lang lagi tayo sa US kaya ganito ang situation natin mukhang kawawa.

I knew from beginning America would never fight for the Philippines. Tail cannot wag the dog.

Panahon ni duterte wala naman tong aggressiveness ng China, pero ngayon sobrang galit na galit na ang China, gusto nang makipag gyera. I think bbm needs to deviate from his recent foreign policy. Back to unilateral negotiation with china