Had my Saxo VTR 13 years, (Pauline I named her after a random name on the numberplate that caused it to fail an Mot) she was my first car, and then I moved to Australia, I left it to a garage that I worked at, as a courtesy car. My first 2 years insurance was just under £5800 quid, for a car worth 1500. And that was 2008 prices. The garage added it to their fleet insurance for 12 quid a year... I returned home, got the saxo back, and had many happy years with her, but she got retired and I bought a PUG 306 dubbed Pauline 2. I then moved to Australia again, and left the saxo back at the garage again. I moved back from Oz again, got the saxo back a third time and took my Mrs (from NZ) all around the UK in it. Then I shipped it to NZ. So I was 3 of the saxo's 6 owners in the UK. It's driven up the steepest streets in the world, both in Harlech Wales and Dunedin New Zealand BEFORE Mr Hubnut and his falcon! Then in August 2020, she was written off by some dozy person in a Ford Territory. (small scratch and dent in the Ford) I had shipped every single part I could think of with me to NZ... bonnet, wings, doors, rear bootlid, bumpers, door glass, brake pads and discs, lights, even a replacement radio, but alas, they said she was too far gone to fix... So my beloved got written off but it's not the end of her story, I sold her to someone who's turned her into a race car in Auckland. I miss that Saxo terribly, my wife hated it. (Small, noisy, dripping fluids everywhere, and the Saxo was the same.) and I wanted to keep it for my daughters first car, but unfortunately she'll have to find another shit box. RIP Pauline. The one and only Mark 2 Saxo in New Zealand.
@UPnDOWN7 ай бұрын
Comments like this are one of the best parts of making KZfaq vids, really appreciate the time you took to tell the story! And now, Pauline will forever remain pinned here on this video's comments thing. F in the chat for Pauline.
@konchester6 ай бұрын
F
@SpaceHCowboy6 ай бұрын
F. One love Pauline and shout out to yer family!
@tdick15416 ай бұрын
Who’s Pauline?
@SpaceHCowboy6 ай бұрын
@@tdick1541 Bros car.
@jimjam81497 ай бұрын
They were absolutely everywhere in one spec or another, and they seemingly disappeared over night.
@GTFour6 ай бұрын
If you left one overnight it either got stolen or rusted back to the earth. 😆
@christopher97275 ай бұрын
No hope in going to the past come to the loving savior today Seek his Holy Spirit in prayer today he can give you peace confort and guidance today Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
@bobbytaylor30437 ай бұрын
In 15 years, I’ve gone 5 months without owning a Saxo. My first car was a T reg 1.1 Eastcoast, I then had a T reg VTR, V reg Mk1 VTR, R reg Mk1 VTR and in 2016 I got my P reg VTS. She’s now had a full nut and bolt resto and is my baby. I daily a Fiesta ST180 now.. I love an iconic hatchback ❤️
@christopher97275 ай бұрын
No hope in going to the past come to the loving savior today Seek his Holy Spirit in prayer today he can give you peace confort and guidance today Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
@_autoverse7 ай бұрын
There were some parts of this Saxo’s story I was already familiar with because I follow the IG account. But you did a good job presenting it here, certainly captured my attention.
@porsche356a7 ай бұрын
I left the UK just as this scene was hotting up, and didn't really appreciate them. Now I have an AX GT you can see how these were a development of that platform. Great video and great to see you've kept it this long. I have a VW beetle I purchased in 1994 still sat in my dad's garge in Ireland that was painted tropical green which was a cal look for a while. I use it for a few weeks a year when I go back and visit. I now have 5 cars I have owned over 20 years. Cheers Steve
@wacholder56907 ай бұрын
Congratulations to the 20th anniversary 🙂 It has become a legit family member over time. Dogs don't last that long ... Thanks for sharing !
@gazbrown90457 ай бұрын
Great story and one that I can relate to with the challenges of long term ownership and the way a car can get under the skin - we’ve had our Clio 182 from new, which will be 20 years in October, and in that time it has seen the arrival of kids, and has been written off (and resurrected!) twice! It is one of those things that is now a part of the furniture - it is well looked after, but not pampered and is still in daily duty. Just a brilliant antithesis to modern throwaway culture to keep these things going and not just chuck them away.
@arcticfox33087 ай бұрын
The milage must be high now
@gazbrown90457 ай бұрын
@@arcticfox3308 you would be surprised - with 4 other cars in the house, it’s still on just 66k!
@danielhoyland90207 ай бұрын
As an owner of a MK1 Saxo VTS, I think these cars are a little overshadowed by far more 'quirky' Citroen models and often feel that I can't class myself as a true 'french car fan' because I've never had hydropneumatic suspension or yellow fog lamps... So I was delighted to see you do a video on one of these great little cars, great story behind it too!
@UPnDOWN7 ай бұрын
That's a great comment. There is a fair bit of badge snobbery, even within deeper Citroen circles. I suppose it's generational, but when the brand in question has the SM, DS, 2CV, CX etc in their back catalogue, anything 'mainstream' is going to struggle a bit. The BX was looked down on for years, even at CCC meets. It's only recently starting to float to the surface. The Saxo isn't the most interesting, technically, so the Citroen crowd won't be too interested, but they're interesting from the POV of sales, marketing and youth culture. Probably Citroen's most mainstream car. But the Saxo is VERY French in its DNA. The suspension; the design under the skin...it's all very 80s Peugeot.
@blatantlyjohn62346 ай бұрын
I’ve owned my 2002 Saxo VTS 16v for 15 years, I know it inside and out. Amazing little car, handles incredibly and still decently quick even compared to modern stuff. Love it!
@Mrbikertomtom6 ай бұрын
This bought back great memories. I had a VTR in the same silver colour as my 2nd car, as an 18/19 year old it was fantastic! I took mine from 65k miles to 125k in just over 3 years and mostly very trouble free, infact, I never changed the rear tyres from those miles either. I was doing 100 miles a day on the M25 in her, and lots of traffic light grand prix's haha. I put the minimal wear down to the fact it weighed so little :')
@RHM6x47 ай бұрын
That was most enjoyable, thank you for your hard work - it was both informative and entertaining to a level that some professional companies/individuals/programs do not reach - well done 👍 Thanks
@UPnDOWN7 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@guusguusguus7 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing the Saxo! Made me appreciate my 106 Rallye despite its many issues 👨🏭
@UPnDOWN7 ай бұрын
I miss my Rallye.
@jugostran7 ай бұрын
Really enjoyable video. The fact that the Saxo still looks as it did 20 years ago is brilliant. Love it when people take care of their cars for so long. If my BX wasn't so temperamental, I would probably be trying to do a similar thing with it. Now it is cocooned (very much literally wrapped in a blanket and plastic wrap) until I figure out how to fix it properly.
@AutoShenanigans7 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation.
@dwarfshortage2447 ай бұрын
How the devil are ya!?
@UPnDOWN7 ай бұрын
Cheers matey
@carlmarkwyatt2 ай бұрын
My dad brought a new 1997 red phase 1 Saxo VTS when I was 10, it was a very early one that came without the rear spoiler. Dad never modified it and did nearly 140k miles in it over 12 years but unfortunately he had an accident in 2009 which rote it off. That was our sole family car for many years and would take us (family of four with dog) on holidays with all our camping gear. It obviously left an impression on me as I ended up with a french hot hatch (Peugeot 208 GTi) which I've now had for 6 years and 65k miles. Thanks for the video.
@1990JohnG7 ай бұрын
I owned a Silver Saxo VTS for about 4 years. Great car, great engine dropped on Bilstein B8s, 30mm springs, rear adjusted properly to match. Full stainless supersprint exhaust, 421 decat, polybushed and wildwood brakes. It was a mega car. It sounded great and miss it dearly.
@Canalsman7 ай бұрын
Rich-anory! Thanks for a most enjoyable 40 minutes. Wasn't sure it would hold my attention, but your presentation style is never dull, never repetitive... just absorbing.
@UPnDOWN7 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@isaaccan31557 ай бұрын
I like your channel because of the way you explain everything. They way you call it John’d up, cracks me, but can you explain why John. My name is Jon and I find it funny. I was a young guy around the same time. 2001 I bought my dream car, a 1990 Corrado g-60 (couldn’t afford a Vr6). I absolutely loved that car. The only modification when I got it was lowering springs and adjustable shocks. I later did all the major mods to the supercharger and it was a blast. At the time I hung out with the Tuner crowd and some of them did the same wild and obnoxiously mods that I was seeing in a Max Power magazine at the local newspaper stand. I was kind of surprised that people in England were taking it a bit further than the crowd in the USA.
@UPnDOWN7 ай бұрын
I like Corrados. I knew a guy with a VR6, it went well.
@user-ox4eu3xi3s6 ай бұрын
best times of my life in these cars back in 2006 to 2008, vts with cat cams 708s and another vts with a rotrex c74 charger doing over 200 at the wheels. the chatter sound from the charger when letting of throttle was the best noise ever
@danielrussell4467 ай бұрын
Hi Rich well done on a brilliant video and what a car it’s part of the family and so many memories you both have with it! I remember driving an early Saxo as my then girlfriend had one new and I was very impressed with how it drove even for a base model I was a Vauxhall fan back then and had a Corsa B which I loved after a Renault 5 but then I had a Citroen c3 new and I loved driving that car and always found it so comfortable on the commute I did back then! Always remember Saxo being so popular with deals with free insurance and at college and uni there were always loads about standard and modded That one deserves to stay and look forward to future videos on it it’s great to see it doing what Citroen intended it to do bet your kids love it! All the best Daniel
@jackscott89317 ай бұрын
I've been looking forward to the inevitable video on the history of the Saxo for a while. I wasn't disappointed! Great and interesting video
@wanderer777919 күн бұрын
You definitely have a keeper when she's into hot hatches! My friend is constantly talking about finding one now i understand the passion!
@andyb366620 күн бұрын
I remember when Bryan Brown used to advertise Citröen, great times 😊 thanks for this video really enjoyed it
@admiralalcatraz60807 ай бұрын
Your Saxo was built on my 10th birthday, and I felt that needed sharing 🤷 I also feel a Hubnut review is needed.....
@UPnDOWN7 ай бұрын
Cheers for making me feel old, I'd just started college when it was built 😆 Also HubNut was offered any of the cars in our family and chose the S-Max... 😶
@wanderingorganist7 ай бұрын
Now *I* feel old - I was 40 when it was built :-(
@WestYorkshireGuy13 ай бұрын
I had one of the 100bhp VTRs from factory. Bought it brand new in 2001. It was a quick car. Could easily do 120mph and often did. I fitted a full stainless exhaust, 4 branch manifold with sports cat and a Piper X filter. All round uprated brakes. Because standard brakes were crap. Wish I had never sold it.
@KobiGamez2 ай бұрын
Hey mate, love this video and your thread. I have a VTR, my first ever car i bought with my own money and i'll never sell it. Using your thread for inspiration on fixing her up, I'm pretty much learning mechanics using the saxo lol.
@Sid33007 ай бұрын
Your wife must really love this car to keep it all these years. Can’t blame her really, they’re one of the best looking hot hatches imo.
@hendoiii34876 ай бұрын
In my younger years when I had a nova sx. I first saw the Citroen saxo vtr and was amazed. Still to this day if I owned one it would be seen as an amazing car. Noone drives them in 2024.
@UPnDOWN6 ай бұрын
Except my wife!
@Invisibleman77 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this story Rich. Thanks
@zubeystinzen5407 ай бұрын
A fantastic insight, they're not just cars are they, they're a major part of our lives & that's why we love them. Thank you ❤it
@evang97088 күн бұрын
I've had 3 saxos in Silver with them alloys, they were amazing, I want a VTS one day, but they are gone so rare now.
@Shane_Marsh7 ай бұрын
Wow what a story, all your videos are incredibly interesting and entertaining. Thanks buddy 👍
@Bongo46117 ай бұрын
I've had 3 saxos. I still have one. They're just so much fun
@HowardLeVert7 ай бұрын
At 17:00 you reminded me of my father's Ford Zodiac, which had features showing it was a transition model from the 1970 facelift: it had an earlier cooling system but it had the walnut dash of the 1970 facelift - but externally, it didn't have the trim strip along the waist that the facelifted cars did.
@diogobronze6 ай бұрын
Hello, I'm from Portugal, here the saxo vts is called the saxo cup, I have a 16v cup, every corner there was a saxo cup or a 106 gti and nowadays you hardly see any on the road in good condition
@B2daBaZ7 ай бұрын
What a blast from the past I used to sit on eBay looking at these wishing I could afford one! I had a 106 1.1 ‘independence’ as my first car absolutely loved it. Thanks for the video
@donaljamescaddye38056 ай бұрын
What a great video - The dealers round where i used to live had bodykit options and free insurance on the 1.1 Saxos around 97 or so to attract the young working lads and lassies into the dealerships - And it worked ! Every town had them - when the VTR and VTS came out the young had them in droves as well - They were light, nimble and fun - Now very few survive - that scrappage scheme in 09 culled a lot of them Great video and it takes me back to good times with good friends, no social media, no worries and we were all free to tour the country ! Great wee cars !
@citromec7 ай бұрын
My poodle is named Saxo 😅 These cars are still very common at the French countryside. 😊
@UPnDOWN7 ай бұрын
Yeah we saw a lot of them in France a few months ago. No VTR/S models though, they were all 'flat archers'
@mrmerlin62876 ай бұрын
As someone now 33 years old, your book 📖 was one of my first automotive books I bought!
@UPnDOWN6 ай бұрын
The Max Power Saxo manual?
@mrmerlin62876 ай бұрын
@@UPnDOWN Yeah, I bought it a couple years before I got my first Saxo in fact!
@frazzleface7534 ай бұрын
Kitch, you must be the UK's premier Saxo expert! I was aware of these, but the whole chav mod thing put me off a bit. I got a Fiat Bravo 80 SX at the time lol. Ah, if I could go back...
@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain6 ай бұрын
Brilliant Video Rich, a really nice example of a Saxo, testement to you the wife for looking after it, maintaining and improving it over 20 years. It's a car I need to drive or own in my life at some point as it's a car from my Yoof. I think if I had one in my Yoof it would have been Barry Boyed.... 😂😂 The nearest I got to a Saxo was selling insurance for the Yoof for a well known dealer chain with a yelllow sticker, used to sell insurance for a VTR for a 18 year old for something silly like £295 for a year then come renewal it was £2295..... Can we expect to see the Saxo at Rustival?
@GTFour6 ай бұрын
Saxo definitely replaced the Nova on the scene because Citroen struck gold with the Saxo; great design and performance, the right price, then that mega 2 years free insurance offer! Saxos were absolutely EVERYWHERE. I had a Nova SR that got absolutely ragged everywhere for a year. Great video.
@andrewwalsh58376 ай бұрын
I bought a brand new saxo furio back in the summer of 2000 in the famous blue colour, really loved it, was like a go kart, very nippy for a 1.4, also got the 2 year free insurance deal
@dannyDC27 ай бұрын
owned 2 VTS! ph1 and ph2... back in the day. Got sick of the frenchness, couldn't quite take the abuse would take another ph1 vts nowadays for a weekend blaster
@shizface32067 ай бұрын
Enjoyed the story of your Saxo 👍 I'm 9 years into owning mine, with some little adventures had in that time ❤ great to see other owners sharing the same sentiment for these rot boxes!
@UPnDOWN7 ай бұрын
9 years is still quite a long time I reckon!
@bobr97317 ай бұрын
Enjoyed that history lesson and nice see still in the family.
@michaeltalbot73637 ай бұрын
Great video; very nostalgic! Always liked the Saxos, but never owned one. Did have an AX 1.2 Chicago. Fantastic little car. Bought in 93 and sold in 97. Still miss it! Keep up the amazing content.
@zuiko217 ай бұрын
I *REALLY* enjoyed this video! After a year of driving a "borrowed" AX GT, I bought a brand new Mk. I Saxo VTS, and I really liked it! If the rev counter is to be trusted, the rev up to 7500 rpm 😉 Unfortunately, I lost it after less than 2 years on a silly crash... then I made my biggest (automotive) mistake: getting a Xsara VTS HDi😭. Awful, clumsy and troublesome, 2 years later (March 2002) I swapped it for an R50 Mini Cooper -- still my daily driver. I wonder if I'd be still driving the VTS...
@k0r31fett7 ай бұрын
Absolutely stunning review. Greetings from Germany, my mom drove a 106 and I fucking knew there was more to these cars. Keep it up pal, I love it!
@darrenwilson80427 ай бұрын
I had an AX GT - proper pocket rocket right until on a rainy windy night a warning sign was blown over so I flew off the end of the section of road which had been removed for resurfacing and the "raised ironworks " ie a manhole I was unknowingly trying to clear took the sump clean off. Scrap value was bobbins too - as the scrap man said "its 90% 'effin plastic son" lol
@stevenallen88027 ай бұрын
What a video a real story of ownership from nigh on start to present day I remember working on these when I was sixteen serving my time shocking to hear the attrition rate 41000 to 600!
@lenlowe3327 ай бұрын
I still really enjoy driving my 106. My father bought him in 1996 when he was 2 years old.
@markpmtla6 ай бұрын
Quality video 👌🏻 fond memories of my mates vtr bought brand new. CX53OFE. Peco big bore 4, Mille Miglia 1000 wheels, tinted windows and on its arse 👌🏻
@lukemallory78326 ай бұрын
The good old days! Very good presentation btw! That took a lot of work and you pulled it off with aplomb!
@stuartraffle71487 ай бұрын
Thank you Rich., I've been waiting for this 🙂
@Badboyrich19826 ай бұрын
I had a 106 quicksilver:) cause everyone had a saxo :) awesome handling, it had Lexus rear lights which I replaced straight away with the standard ones because everyone had Lexus lights.
@malcolmaston35476 ай бұрын
The history of the car and it’s effects on us soft petrolheads I think is as interesting as the car itself. Great video, here’s to another 20 years of the Saxo
@whizzalloverthecity7 ай бұрын
The Saxo didn't make me comment. The ad break cue dot made me comment. Is that sad? Lovely touch.
@UPnDOWN7 ай бұрын
No, you've made my day. I spent ages making that 😆
@nigelm77777 ай бұрын
Great video, I had an AX Elation 1.5d and decided to part ex it for a VTR back in 1998. I had a Nova SR that I sold previously so wanted another warm hatch. I had planned on a 2nd hand one, but the deal was better to buy new with the free insurance etc. My first new car was a red S reg VTR. I loved that car, my dad had it off me and was an old boy racer for a while. Sadly got sold and then written off a few weeks later. Great car, I recently found an old wheel that I kerbed going sideways off a roundabout that we swapped out for a new one in 1999!
@tango42716 ай бұрын
The first 20 seconds was gold lol
@christopher97275 ай бұрын
..... Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Romans 6.23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
@rodhili39467 ай бұрын
You Made a 40 min vid on a saxo watchable. Well done 👏 Seriously, a early production model registered in Coventry suggests it was a fleet car as Peugeot-Citroen uk hq is there and they had a manufacturing facility there for many years
@Canalsman7 ай бұрын
Ryton?
@rodhili39467 ай бұрын
@Canalsman manufacturing plant, yes. New models of cars are 'auctioned' out to senior staff. Whoever bids the highest mileage wins the car for a weekend. In return they have to report on NHV/comfort or any concerns the RHD conversion creates
@jorgefernandez-mv8hu7 ай бұрын
Nice entertaining story and a very nice car. Your wife should be very proud of that car. People give French cars a bad rap and here you are with one for 20 years. You have done a lot to keep it, but all in all it's a cute keeper that can get out of its own way when needed. 👍
@bondbug737 ай бұрын
Cor! Look at the green arrows on that! 😄 Really enjoyed it.. And your excellent Saxo review.
@russellb12127 ай бұрын
Suddenly I’m 18 again and getting rid of a P reg Astra, looked at both, but went Peugeot 106 gti, to my shame, got that wrong! Brilliant Mr Kitch, so many details, information and memories
@UPnDOWN7 ай бұрын
You can't go wrong with either, to be fair. 106 is a smashing little car.
@Will.Automotive6 ай бұрын
What an amazing video, I’ve learnt so much! I have a 1.1 Saxo Desire as my first car and I love it. Hopefully I get the chance to drive a VTR or VTS before they’re all gone
@UPnDOWN6 ай бұрын
Thanks! I'm sure you will, though the 1.1s are a lot of fun to hoon around too.
@sweetusbeatus7 ай бұрын
Properly nostalgic car! Great story, Rich. Funny to see a pic of your Furio too. "WIP".
@UPnDOWN7 ай бұрын
Oh yes, I remember the WIP!
@tomwinch91076 ай бұрын
I had an all but dead Allegro (1500) at the beginning of the 90's, no car (lived near Manchester and couldn't afford the insurance!) until 95, then had a 2l n.a. diesel Maestro until I wrote it off in 98, then bought a new 1.9 diesel Skoda Felicia estate - which needed a new gearbox within 5 years ... I guess I missed the hot hatch / car modding scene! My wife got a 97 Xsara 1.4 in 2002. I got an L reg Xantia 2l petrol hatchback in 2003 for £750 - it had about 140k miles and the suspension sank over a couple of hours, but otherwise worked - as it was the most knackered car when we moved in with my wife's parents in 2004, we didn't need a forth car and after fitting new discs and pads one pad with a tiny drop of brake fluid on it ruined a disc within a couple of months, it was disposed of. We traded in the Xsara (after it's power steering popped - damn heavy steering without assistance!) for a 1998 Volvo V70XC in 2005 ... After spinning it on a roundabout after a sudden downpour I realised that car had more power than I had talent so I traded it in for a Y reg Freelander in 2009. The 18mpg was hurting a bit too! 4wd petrol auto - who would have thought! The auto gearbox on the Freelander gave up in 2012. After a 3 month fling with a high mileage 2005 55 plate 1.6 LX C5 estate (which spent half that time off the road and would cut out and refuse to start for 15 mins if you accelerated too quickly when it didn't feel loved - shame as it was a lovely car otherwise - apart from the glass tailgate hatch being bolted shut rather than have a catch, because LX spec!) I returned it and got a 58 reg Mazda 5. By the end of 2014 (having forgotten to service the car as it was hardly used whilst I commuted by train, then started driving to a new job) it needed a replacement engine (whoops!). 30k miles later around Easter 2017 the recon engine threw a piston after 3 hours at motorway speeds damaging the gearbox and aircon ... I've not had a Citroën since (though I keep looking at the C5 estates - I'm not greatly keen on the 2008+ shape, although I did see a 2016 Euro 6 diesel for sale recently ... If I had anything close to the 12k requested I might have been tempted! The only cars since have been a 2006 Honda CRV (please don't hate me, I was looking a C4 Grand Picasso's and saw it ... this needed replacement suspension parts every MOT, then suffered from a dodgy injector so got sold to a friendly garage in 2021. After a couple of months this was replaced by my current car, a 58 reg Seat Altea XL, which is OK (140hp, 6 speed DSG), but just a bit boring. Not boring is the 97 P reg RAV4 3 door auto my daughter bought for £800 in early 21, passed her test in it before finding 19mpg isn't great! My wife inherited it when her 02 reg RAV4's auto gearbox died for a second time. It's engine could do with some work as some of its horses have escaped. It has some dents / patches touched up with the wrong colour (could be a purple rust killer?). It also clunks when manoeuvring near full lock - I suspect the mechanism to unlock the 4wd has failed. Only ~63k miles, so both the oldest and the lowest mileage car we have!
@tomwinch91076 ай бұрын
Car history is great - you get attached to the odd ones ... Less great is insomnia!
@dan44zzt2317 ай бұрын
I had a black VTR for over 10 years. Unfortunately had to scrap it 4 years due to rot, great car and incredibly reliable mechanically. I only paid £800 for it and aside from maintainance stuff like any car all it ever needed was a recon rear beam.
@nath0424 ай бұрын
i had a 1.1 saxo in red called sid, and then i had a 1.4 furio afterwards. I still have that book for when i one day hope to have a saxo again.
@robwells11997 ай бұрын
Great video. Many a cylinder head bolt has been torqued to FT and survived. Definitely need to get it back on the rolling road!
@BBoySnakeDogG7 ай бұрын
Can't believe I just watched a 42 minute video about a Saxo, it was great. I kind of want to VTS swap my AX, but even my 1.0 TU engine is mad reliable.
@UPnDOWN7 ай бұрын
Base AXs are still a lot of fun.
@MrBLUEDEVILUK7 ай бұрын
I loved my VTR and could be seen down Clarence Pier with my mates in the evenings.
@ColinCarFan7 ай бұрын
I did not think you could hold my attention for 42 minutes, but you did! Interesting.
@oliverp41157 ай бұрын
The regret of getting rid of my two tone vts..... 😢 Can't believe they sold 41k vtr and only 600 are left. They were ubiquitous. They were everywhere. I think the modern equivalent is the fiesta Mk7 and st. Great drivers car but hated for being so common.
@marklishman90929 күн бұрын
Never owned a vtr, but test drove one, nice torquey engine.
@gandi697 ай бұрын
Bringing back memories for me, still have my 16v converted ph1 vtr on the driveway slowly returning to nature.
@UPnDOWN7 ай бұрын
Bring it back to life!
@paulleggett97357 ай бұрын
Great vid. What a trip down memory lane. From what i recall, most 1.y 16v engines put out about 130bhp. That wa sthe norm for the 1.6gti. a Peugeotsport exhaust and a filter would usually see you at 140bhp
@UPnDOWN7 ай бұрын
Filter and exhaust don't really add much from my experience on the dyno, but I do agree they seem to have more poke as standard than claimed.
@stuartthurman90406 ай бұрын
Loved watching your video enjoyable...funny aswell ..I had a 2001 vtr y reg I think it was .wish I still had it now
@ScotmanUK20006 ай бұрын
These wee cars are classic cars now. So rare to see on the road nowadays.
@handbrakebob7 ай бұрын
Fabulous story and a fabulous little car. I love the photo with the SR.N4 at the end. 😊
@UPnDOWN7 ай бұрын
Princess Margret, that one. It's the one that had the cross-channel speed record. Got chopped up a while ago, but Princess Anne sits round the corner.
@codenamenel7 ай бұрын
I had an S reg VTR, the sunroof used to leak, in the rain everytime I hit the brakes I'd get a shower, ended up having to use black silicon to seal it, then wrote it off a few weeks later when a truck pulled out right in front of me doin 100 on a dual carriage way
@tridaks7 ай бұрын
Why are your videos so engaging? I mean,... A Saxo????? and I watched it from beginning to end hanging on every word!!! 😁👍Thank you.
@UPnDOWN7 ай бұрын
Well, you say "A Saxo???" but we both love Imps, and the Imp was an abject failure compared with the Saxo, which I also love. Luckily, I own both rolled into one...kinda!
@Madpegasusmax6 ай бұрын
Nice car from a nice era ... its a Youngtimmer ,as the BX became a oldtimmer :3
@andrewhenderson56457 ай бұрын
My mate had a MK1 VTR on a 'S' plate (1997?) around 2004 ish. Even the VTR felt ballistic against our fiesta zetecs 😂. Very fond memories.
@friedjohn7 ай бұрын
Totally agree on the choice of wheels. The "Ville de Toulouse" is the perfect Saxo wheel. Deja vu: I once bought a very cheap Peugeot 106 Rallye. It looked immaculate on the outside, but underneath it was just like your Saxo in 2014. I gave up trying to fix it and broke it for spares (you need to love the car to put that much work into it ).
@UPnDOWN7 ай бұрын
I loved my S1 Rallye. That's the engine I'd love to have in Hilda.
@EdgyNumber17 ай бұрын
Hi UnD, I suggest that maybe the thick ARB was because they used lighter settings on the rear suspension components, compared to the Peugeot, to give that softer Citroën ride yet still be stable in the corners. Also popularity was due to the 'get-you-into-debt quick' 0% interest deals. But definitely true - Vauxhall Nova supplanted the Triumph Dolomite, and this supplanted the Nova! I would love to see a Mi16 engine in one of these.
@UPnDOWN7 ай бұрын
Might be. Given how much this thing torque steers, it might also be to resist pitching/squirming at anything other than a straight line! XU9J4 has been put in one, but the general conscencous is that the gains over the TU5J4 aren't enough to justify the huge job it is to get it in there!
@ajhl98986 ай бұрын
Never really thought much about Saxos ....found that really interesting.
@christopher97275 ай бұрын
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@Badboyrich19826 ай бұрын
Great cars, great memories. Loved dusting 10grand saxos in my 1.3sr 🤣
@UPnDOWN6 ай бұрын
I'm guessing you didn't pick on the VTS!
@flybobbie14497 ай бұрын
I loved my P 106xnd, so economical, especially running on veg oil.
@Batesandrw7 ай бұрын
What a great little car you’ve had. Old faithful😊. I’m a Citroen man, I’m on my 4th Picasso. 😂🎉
@SWBF2-2005IsBestStfu7 ай бұрын
Fun fact, my first (and only car so far) is a C2 VTS and that bit about the insurance is dead on, the insurance for the boring 1.4 model of the c2 turned put to be around £150 a year more expensive then the VTS....so of course i brought that one...poor thing has been sitting on the drive for almost a year waiting for me to pass my driving test though 😅
@HowardLeVert7 ай бұрын
Enjoyed that - thanks for the video and the history of the car. They really are a nice-looking machine.
@MrLekatt7 ай бұрын
Love your story, very enjoyable. Bits of it resembles my BX 16V love story. It also developed a cutting out problem and now I know that Coca-Cola is not what you should spray inside the ECU whatever the problem (like the previous owner obviously did...). Though I been living with Citroën (most models) since 1973 the Saxo was a blank page in my book... until now 👍😊 Thank you for an excellent presentation!
@UPnDOWN7 ай бұрын
Wait.....Coca-Cola?!
@MrLekatt7 ай бұрын
@@UPnDOWN Right... probably not on purpose or consciously. But it being located under the passengers seat (EU) it will be in the way of spillage both from the passenger and from leaking cans or bottles on the floor in the back. The signs were there, brown/blackish and very sticky with a sweet taste 😝. I actually washed the boards in lukewarm soap water and let it dry for a couple of days. It worked for some time but finally a had to purchase a refurbished ECU from the UK. You are soo much better at providing that kind of services than we are here in Sweden. It ran perfectly untill I sold it at 210000 miles. It was a 1987 EU spec without catalytic converter and produced around 170 hp on a rolling road test with a modified stainless exhaust. It passed 100 km/h on the clock in second gear. Very nice!
@simonprime55417 ай бұрын
Thanks Rich - here's to the next twenty!!
@Leehuss55827 ай бұрын
The Saxo VTR was a car I really wanted at the time...prefer Citroën over Peugeot or Renaults..
@roberttaylor74627 ай бұрын
Excellent synopsis of the genre. Did I mention that we also have a Saxo? My partner has owned her Forte since 2001 (One lady owner!).
@UPnDOWN7 ай бұрын
No way, 2001?! Did she buy it new?
@RichardKeast6 ай бұрын
I own an earlier mark 2 vts! Mine is a posi blue mk2 registration V611 FGP. It has the single plug ecu like the mk1
@UPnDOWN6 ай бұрын
Nice! When was yours built?
@RichardCeeA387 ай бұрын
Great presentation, didnt have the pleasure of vtr or vts but a standard Forte model on a Y plate (2001) had shared use of a P (1997) before that no idea model but was basic with a keypad before you started it. Gear linkages were awful on both. Great car for my wife to learn to drive in. 'Mr Saxo Beat' she called hers. Rust killed it and she brought a Ka.
@GoldenCroc7 ай бұрын
Lovely story I must say, I really like people that keep cars for a long time. On another note, its funny how different it can be between places, where I am at small hot hatches werent and arent all that popular. I guess its because of difference in culture, geography and insurance system.
@UPnDOWN7 ай бұрын
Hot hatches really hit their stride in the UK. They suit the roads (well, apart from the awful broken surfaces and hellish traffic). But they're small, nimble etc. Mind you, they're not anymore (but then I don't think hot hatches are as popular anymore)
@rickydub69507 ай бұрын
Nice vid, i remember reading your pistonheads thread on it 👍