It’s against Atlanta, just accept that the league is gonna favor them every time

Best ref moment in MLS history so far

Totally agree. The way it was stated it sounds like VAR was at the snack bar. "Check" is what VAR does through the game the entire game. Everything that happens is being checked live and possibly being replayed by VAR and the Assistant VAR. "On Field Review" (or 'OFR') is when VAR did a Check and believes there is a clear and obvious error which the CR needs to look at. (In other leagues, an OFR is not required for things like offside where it's a matter of fact vs opinion.) Regardless of what words are used, Wiebe should be clear that "VAR did not see any clear and obvious error to send for an On Field Review".

You can't watch these games and honest to god think the VAR is actively watching. They miss/don't request a review on so many calls every single week that there's no possible way they could be

@@grantbyassee2594 I truly believe that is a misconception by certain fans as to how VAR is designed to work. Fans want them to re-referee calls as opposed to only finding clear and obvious errors in the situations they are allowed to recommend an OFR. If anything, VAR in MLS oversteps that line too often. Even PRO calls VAR out of having reviewed things they shouldn't have from time to time.

Yeah... First one was a dive.

First one we can debate, second one is a yellow 110% of the time. No debate.

Love that Weibe says the first one is a "Clear yellow". Haha not a yellow, not even a foul. Weibe needs to get his head checked.

I was rooting for Austin and agree with you 100% on the 1st one. I played it back a few times and see no contact. If there had been contact then maybe, but even that seems questionable. It looks like Dotson won the ball, Zardes realized that there were defenders all around him and went for a dive. The second one seems like a clear yellow

Campbells arm is stretched out in an unnatural position

@@theflyingbeagle74787 In 3:23 he says "when you are expecting to head a ball your arms are going to come up by your sides. That's what happens for Will Trapp, so for me this is a natural position." But in 3:08 he says "you see that arm extended, that for me is in an unnatural position" Both were going up for headers, so he says one is OK but the other is not? Why? What reasoning was one player's arms being up Ok and not the other?

Probably, but given how many Dallas players committed questionable handballs without any calls made for it throughout the game, it was at least consistent. No calls all game would have been a very bad thing to make that call at the end of the game.

@@cluberti Yet at the same time Seattle fans wouldn't have been surprised. Angry, but not surprised.

MLS has had bush-league refs for years. Czar Garber is too cheap to hire better ones, or just doesn't care, not sure of which.

It's both.

Whitecaps v LAFC in the playoff says hello

Exaactly the ref favored new england all game its was crazy

Did you leave a link? KZfaq will kill your entire post if you include a link in it. They're getting smarter as well if you try to disguise it with a space or out of place character.

@@MrCho14 it said this what sports do you have trouble finding service for? Apple TV package cost over $2 per match, and that's if you watch every one. It goes up pretty high if you miss a couple. Maybe you're at a friend's house who only has cable. More than half of Timbers matches in '22 were free over local TV

@@MrCho14 weird

in most leagues ref calls are just different interpretation of the rules. MLS decided to just say each ref can have their own rulebook and don't need to tell the teams what's in it.

*Vietnam flashback intensifies*

Anything specific or just every segment on here? In general, it's more likely those complaining don't agree with (and likely understand) the call than it actually being wrong. There are always exceptions.

Gee, I wonder. Could it be that people hate Apple TV? Nahhh No literally, I've only bought Apple TV to watch Ted Lasso, and I've unsubscribed the moment I finish the season.

Much prefer the apple coverage compared to other sports of trying to find what service this weeks game is on.

@@zigzag321go I find myself watching USL a lot more now because it's on and available. It was a stupid move by MLS to isolate themselves on a platform where so many people refuse to give money to. I'd like to watch Lasso, but I'm not paying Cupertino for it much less for MLS.

@@cdouglas6 what games are you having trouble finding? NFL is on the same channels every week. NBA on TNT or ABC. Please expand on that. Also I'm trying to watch one team. Prior to Apple, over half the timbers matches were on the 2 local fox affiliates. Now I have to pay more than 2 dollars a match to watch them on my phone. And that's if I watch every match. When I miss some, say I'm at a friend's house with cable and they are a casual fan who doesn't want to pay just to watch a handful of matches. Maybe I want to go camping, or just dont feel like watching, the price goes to $3 or $4 just to watch my local team owned by a rich kid whose team plays in a stadium owned by the city and pays $0 in rent. That's right! I'd have to pay more per match than the owner pays in rent for a match! But please do explain what you mean by "what service a game is on"

Citation required

Likewise. I agree with this guy 10% of the time(if I’m being generous). I too just want him to explain why the call on the field is made or why it’s changed after review. IDGF about his “opinions”. But MLS doesn’t care about this channel. Only reason this dude gets to share his awful takes.

It wasn’t during the attacking phase of play. Dallas possessed the ball after it, briefly, which reset the APP.

Or the handball by Dallas minutes before.

I’m surprised it wasn’t covered as well, but the outcome was correct. Not reviewable as the handball was not in the attacking phase of play leading to the goal. Good goal, no VAR review applicable there.

It would have been great to cover it after the St. Louis call as a perfect example of when a goal should stand. The foul must occur during the act of the scoring team gaining possession (as in the St. Louis foul) or after. Dallas gained possession after Rusnak’s handball and no foul occurred during the winning of the ball or the subsequent attacking play. It’s absolutely shocking that the announcers (including Seattle’s radio call) did not understand the laws governing the use of VAR in that situation. Given how mediocre most of the league announcers are, I don’t understand why they can’t find some mediocre crews that can at least explain the laws.

it was still a dirty tackle from behind that should be a pen regardless of whether or not he got the ball

That was well done by the referee crew. The center referee gave advantage on the initial foul but came back and gave a yellow based on what he saw live. VAR rightfully saw a clear error as the Charlotte player slide in from behind with his cleats directly into the achilles of his opponent.

The question I have there is whether that was a plant arm. He didn't end up using it that way and it hung out there longer than it normally would if he were trying to plant with it.

I think that one is a good call. The defender looks to purposely step in front to stop the attack. If it wasn't stopping a promising attack, then you'd be right, but he knew what he was doing. Now, the first one it looks like a complete dive with no contact at all.

@@MrCho14 definitely not, clearly a coming together

@@EvieWillNotDieCho is right on this one! If he didn’t stick that leg out, I would agree!