where are the 3.5 adaptors that you used for the headphones?

@@krazypinoy6495 On the OE site I linked

@@ZReviews I'm curious to know how far you can push these babies... Are you going to put them to the test on a range of headphones with varying impedances to see how they hold up?

@@skipPeRTh3Reaper they have their limits, but on the few I can adapt they work perfectly fine

The Shure version of this has this, tw bt2s

Difficult to achieve good Transparency Mode with third party IEM's, I imagine. In any event, with my AZ09 Pro's, I simply flip out the IEM partially while the hook stays in place. In the car, I leave one in, the other partially out if I need to listen to something other than music/news.

@@jb678901 right. it's not that big a deal to pop it in and out. it really isn't. I'm not sure what the fuss is about. a pass thru or transparency or whatever you want to call it, would be great, but popping the iems out when I'm in public hasn't been enough of a bother to even think about until I read this thread.

Short circuit aka Linus tech tips “unbox therapy” channel did a sponsor for Sony’s new OPEN BACK true wireless iems and the tech is crazy

I use the Moondrop SSR with the UTWS5 and any IEM with similarly low noise isolation doesn't need it. However, my ikko OH10 isolate a lot, and I definitely understand that want for transparency.

That's interesting. Amazon Music tells me that my old mpow adapters (the ones Zeos used) are connected to my phone at 24bit 96khz but I suppose that's just what my phone is "sending" to it.

@@johnpeterson99 I asked FiiO via direct message on Twitter regarding the LDAC update and if 5.2 was necessary for the full quality, they only said "Wait for news. 5.2 is better." and nothing else so I'm not entirely sure if it's really necessary. On my OnePlus 8 Pro (5.1bluetooth), it maxes out at 24bit 48khz according to Amazon Music, haven't tried UAPP to see if it says something different tho. Same thing goes with the 5.0bt of my pc's motherboard. Haven't tried that dongle you mentioned.

sampling rate x 4 = noise floor drops by 6 db. equivalent to increasing the bit rate from 16 to 17 bits. former needs to transfer 400% more data vs 6% on the latter. Both windows and android are doing 16 bit 44Khz and i tested this on lossless apple music, plexamp and spotify premium and i can't tell the difference. This product is astounding. I used it at home all weekend alternating with speakers and i'm going to test the microphone at work given how good the battery is with my oh10's.

They said on other forums that it’s Qualcomm that doesn’t yet support LDAC on the chipset. Saying something about it still being debugged. The same chipset can be found in “wired wireless” adapters with LDAC support… which may correlate with the issue of LDAC not working independently on both earhooks. Sony must have engineered this into the WF-1000XM4’s with the same capability potentially not being there in the QCC5141. FiiO license LDAC in various other receiving products. So, I don’t see why they wouldn’t license it on these just to save a couple of bucks on the price. For now though, I guess I’ll be sticking with my Qiyi KB8P aptX Adaptive USB transmitter. That’s 5.2. So that would give you a 5.2-to-5.2 setup and theoretically deliver 24/96.

I’m trying to decide which one to get. Do you advise getting opposite (mmcx for my 2-pin CIEMs)? It seems so silly to me

Imma wait simply b/c its all out of stock. Hopefully their working out bugs? I’m excited for where audio is going. Also waiting for what apple comes out with for lossless BT so the rest of the world follows. It’s an exciting time to be alive. Oh. And I’m hoping the UTWS 7 comes with adapters or something. That shit is way overpriced for something as big as an ant. I know it’s nich item but it won’t be for long.

@@calebwhite6173 I'm not sure about bugs. I think they just sold out really quickly. I recieved mine before Zeos because I happened to be on the FiiO website the day it dropped. Not to mentions Z has a huge group of Patreon followers that received this video a week or two ago.

Are you using the UTWS5 paired with a Bluetooth 5.2 device (i.e. Pixel 6)?. If I am interpreting the Fiio web site correctly, BT 5.2 facilitates hires playback at 96kHz without the need for LDAC.

@@keithjohnson2863 I believe the issue is LDAC is proprietary to Sony unless the company buys the rights. It does work with AptX Adaptive. I've used it with the Pixel 6, Fold 3 and S21 Ultra and all work great.

@@Ringleader3rik Thanks Eric, my guess is that Fiio did not want to license LDAC from Sony if they can get nearly the same results with AptX Adaptive.

I don't think that's possible. The ANC techonology is concorporated inside the actual earpiece, this just transmits audio.

ANC wouldn’t work but ambient mode could be added

Ambient mode is now available for the UTWS5's in the new beta firmware

I’m not too informed on all this lingo but does that mean I can hear my surroundings and my own voice? I want to get into iems but the facts I can’t hear my voice while gaming annoys me and I end up stumbling a lot on my words and lose focus in the middle of games. It’s why I stick with open back headphones but since I wear glasses, the clamp on headphones makes me readjust every now and then from discomfort and I feel like iems would help a lot with that but again, if I can’t hear my own voice then bummer

@@HeyNavi Agree, that's indeed a universal problem with IEMs when you do not wish to block all the sounds from outside, but this on-demand addition solves it. It more or less feels similar to the Transparency Mode on the AirPods Pro. So yes, you'll be able to hear your own voice. It has 16 levels for the ambient sound, so you can adjust how loudly you would like to have it in the mix.

@@kambizf that’s good to hear, how well does it work from your own experience? I know you said this update was recent but would like to know still. Also does the eliminate that underway/plugging your ear effect that iems give once inserted into your ear? Lastly, would this be great for pc gaming? Is the latency/sound quality/volume worth it to go wireless? Or should I stick with wired

@@HeyNavi I updated the firmware a few hours ago (8 to be precise) and have been testing it at different levels. The testing criteria and conditions are limited indeed, as I've been at work. So far I can say I'm pleased with this new feature both for listening to music and the few calls I have had using it. It may not be super natural-sounding in terms of transparency/ambient mode, but even the best ones in the market still have that issue, so again IMO it passes; in the end, you're listening to your own voice as the surrounding via the built-in mic. I'm not a gamer, so I didn't turn on the Game Mode and can't really comment there, but according to the provided details by Fiio, it can significantly improve the low latency in the Bluetooth transmission process. Regarding your other question (the underway/plugging effect), I think it may vary from one IEM to another and as well from one ear tip to another and the extent at which they offer vent or seal. For me, testing it with Dunu SA6, it feels better when the Ambient Sound mode is on. It might only be a psychological effect, as the IEM and the tip are the same and the ears are plugged as they were before, but the fact that you can hear your surrounding more may trick the brain to it. Given that the unit is not super expensive, it may be a good investment. Since a few months ago that I have the UTWSs in my possession, I have used my IEMs wired a few times only, to test how they may sound with different dac/amps, etc. The built-in amp is quite good for listening to music, so that I do not feel the need to go back to wired.

@@kambizf thanks for the thorough comment. I’m fully convinced and will be getting these to pair with my campfire orions which I’ve only use once because of the reasons I’ve mentioned. The mic quality I don’t think I’d mind too much since I won’t be setting the sensitivity to the max. I need to have it set it where my voice/background noise doesn’t dominate my gaming audio and vice versa. It’s the same with my open back headphones where my volume is pretty high but when I talk, I can’t hear my own voice just enough to not stumble my words. Idk kinda hard to explain. One last question though. Would these be great for sensitive iems? I know my orions are sensitive and had buzzing when plugged into my pc and microphone and have heard that some buzzing can occur with these adapters? Edit: another question but it just occurred to me but can game mode and ambient noise mode both be enabled? Would love to use these two as I’d utilize them both. If so, would the battery drain faster with both enabled?

That’s just not possible. ANC use a DSP specific to the drivers (and housing) they are linked with. You can’t have an external universal ANC device that would actually work.

@@thierryfaquet7405 it's possible but not as effective as headphones or earbuds which are designed for it as whole. There are different types of "ANC" even my Lexus has ANC to reduce cabin noise. In the most basic form, its an external mic that picks up outer frequencies and the processor matches it with the opposing frequency to reduce its audibility. Also would rely on some form of passive noise cancellation.

@@stringbreaker87 yeah you don’t get it. No matter where the ANC is, it’s still only works for where it was designed for… Your Lexus ANC wouldn’t work if it was put into a train wagon, because it was designed specifically for the speakers of your car, for the placement of those speakers in your car and the shape of the inside cabin. And it also has mic inside your car to mesure what needs to be canceled. ANC isn’t magic, it needs to be tuned very precisely or it just doesn’t work (like garbage chinese nobrand ANC)

@@thierryfaquet7405 I get it, I'm not going to pretend I'm an expert though lol

You just have to involve the user in a calibration process. That way you can finetune the dsp to your own ears, no matter what the output device is. Less plug'n'play, but probably more effective than out of the box solutions, cause everybody's ears hear differently..

Are you using the UTWS5 paired with a Bluetooth 5.2 device (i.e. Pixel 6)?. If I am interpreting the Fiio web site correctly, BT 5.2 facilitates hires playback at 96kHz without the need for LDAC.

Update gave them LDAC and LHDC, transparency as well, amazing update pipeline from fiio

over here people aren't obsessed with true wireless the way they are in burgerland

Be carefull with the 2pin version. I've had the utws3 for almost a year and the right side pins broke. Fiio was great getting me a replacement, but it was a kick in the balls when it broke.

Mine is MMCX version, It takes 10 months and it is broken. I sent it for repairing (from Thailand to China) for 1 year warranty. Today is going to be 3 months, and I have not got it yet. …I am still waiting Fiio to return it back.

Moreover, utws3 damaged the mmcx of my earphone as well. So, I had to pay for the repairing including the shipping(both ways). All in all, this kind of product may ruin your beloved earphones someday in the future.

​@@Nok-wj7fl lets hope they rectified the QC for the newer version. akm chip is the reason behind the lackluster stock at distributors.

Agree. They need to cover the basic functionality of a True Wireless. Otherwise, they can't replace a TW they would be "in addition to" which makes the market much smaller.

What do you need a DAP for if you have these?

Just double sided tape a btr5 to any headphone

@@Moose_338 I do this except I'm using a bunch of small hair ties to hold the unit and cables neatly in place. the multimedia controls are a tiny bit uncomfortable to reach but you get used to it.

@@Moose_338 Why use tape? It has a clip......

the trn bt30 seem to be an improvement too. would like to see what people think.

Just a head up, the 2 pin version of the utws3 and the utws5 does not work with Moondrop IEMs that have the recessed port. The utws unit's don't have the extra squared length to fit into the slot so if you wanna try this you need the mmcx version and mmcx to 2 pin adapters. Source, I have the Starfields and the utws3 and utws5 lol.

I’m going to hook these up to my Arias for work. I love them and making it portable is gonna be sweet.

AZ09 Pro's for $37 ($26 on discount) plus a set of QDC to 2 pin adapters for another $13. Voila...AptxHD/AAC/SBC, BT5.2, Low Latency mode, TWS+, CVC, 8 hrs on the hooks w/48hrs on case.

Are you using the UTWS5 paired with a Bluetooth 5.2 device (i.e. Pixel 6)?. If I am interpreting the Fiio web site correctly, BT 5.2 facilitates hires playback at 96kHz without the need for LDAC.

Are you using the UTWS5 paired with a Bluetooth 5.2 device (i.e. Pixel 6)?. If I am interpreting the Fiio web site correctly, BT 5.2 facilitates hires playback at 96kHz without the need for LDAC.

These would work great if you converted them to mmcx. I did this with my KSC75s and UTWS1. The UTWS5 is wayyyyy better.

The Right Angles are only on their site. Not amazon.