Thank you for showing what training can do. Not long ago people thought a sub second draw from strong side was a unicorn.

Very impressive, guys. The motions are much bigger for strong-side draw. And lifting the t-shirt around the hip definitely seems a bigger challenge. I carry strong -side when I wear a suit with the shirt tucked in, but appendix the rest of the time. Now I need to work on the sub-second draw from each of them.

I'd love to hear more about Sawyer's dry fire drills. boy's got one hell of a draw and a even more impressive reload.

I carry 4oclock because the same reason I'm always bending over fixing water lines and that draw is inspiration!

Struggled with how uncomfortable appendix carry was, until I added a wedge and raised up the ride height. Now its a winner.

Love seeing you guys all push the envelope of skillset.

Could watch this all day

Thanks, yall are the first ive heard mention hernia issues

A very impressive, even-handed assessment.

Great videos guys. Awesome comparison. I was a owb 4-5 o'clock guy for years and switched to aiwb about 2 years ago and never looked back. For me aiwb offers more control and comfort riding in a vehicle and conducting LEO operations in plain clothes. Like you guys pointed out you have to experiment and find what works for you and train train train.

Great points to both types of carry. I'm 1.05 on average from 3:30 carry. I say get a sidecar appendix rig and strong side carry holster to see what you like more. The sidecar spreads out the pressure against the stomach to make it more comfortable. I like having the gun appendix more for retention purposes and strong side for safety reasons.

Wow! Yalls skill level is just unreal. So impressive. I'm interested to know what made Sawyer swap over to the M&P platform?

You guys are total speed Rockstars!

Great information! Very well thought out video.

Very nice fellas you guy are insane on the draw 👌🏻

Impressive shooting boys!

excellent discussion.

Enlightening, and nice shooting!

nice work guys. plan on getting an appendix rig from you guys soon.

Will y'all go over what made you try new pistol setups? I've been debating switching from Glock. 👍🔥.

As a taller thinner framed guy aiwb is about my only realistic option if I want to actually have a full size gun on. With my Agis and Axis holsters the go to combo is dcc clip on mag side and plastic clip on gun side. Creates a flat profile on the belt for the shirt to sit against. Not necessary for everyone but a winning combo for me.

That was reallly good, it look liked he had the walther pdp that trigger outtta the box has a very short reset, you can really get some fast double taps, Great Jobbbbb 💯❤️🥳

Dang fellas you fast as F. Wish I had a place to train. NJ hates guns. Can’t wait to move to a free state.

What did you think of the M&P? I carry a full size ported performance center M&P 2.0 with 4.25 inch barrel and I love shooting that gun.

Another simple but so helpful vid. Like the other commenters, how about some conversation about pant size with the various carry types. Larger, stretchy, lower waisted, etc.

Horizontal fly underwear makes a huge difference for using the restroom with AIWB holsters. Haven't seen anyone mention that and figured I'd share

I received my msp pro series about a week ago. Awesome great quality holster! Any tips on how I can get to a consistent subsecond other than dry fire and using a shot timer? Tia.

When it comes to sitting inside of a car... I have a pouch/liner that is attached to the front seat of my car and I have an extra AIWB holster that sits and fits inside of that pouch nice and snug... No matter how I carry it makes driving more comfortable especially on long drives...

Wow, first time watching this channel, but they're both incredibly quick. The guy with the PDP (I have a C4) is insanely fast after the first trigger pull! I've only ever done IWB and OWB at 4:30, but am considering AIWB for both my PDP and Hellcat. I always figured the Cat would work, but PDP would be too big. Now rethinking that.

Spara under a jacket/coat is my go to right now 👍🏾

Great video.

Rather than drawing a gun quickly it is more effective to just stab the assailant with the pencil... WAIT!!! We need Tier 1 concealed TACTICAL POCKET PROTECTORS! lmao. Great video guys and nice shooting as always!

I would really like y'all to show your dry fire regiment to build draw speed

Would like to see a video on dry fire practice!

As a heavier person, I am going to go with appendix...I am used to carrying OWB strong side in a duty holster. So I have been carrying IWB strong side....but again....I am in the car a lot, and I would rather have access to my gun. I have also lost a tad bit of weight...so I am going to try appendix and see how it goes.

M&P for Sawyer !! Thats cool , I shoot M&Ps better than anything else

Any appendix holsters for the shadow cr 920 with the streamlight tlr-7 sub yet

Is the xiphos holster able to work appendix and strong side? I have one and have used it in both positions. Seems to work well but I am one of this “larger guys”.

Woo hoo you got a love the M&P.

This time of year if I'm going to ware a jacket i will carry on the hip but i still like carrying appendix the best really but it all depends on what i have to do that day really.

Love my M&P. My next blaster is either going to be a PDP compact or a P10C. Leaning towards the Walther

I wish I could do strong side IWB. My hips and love handles make it uncomfortable. I prefer aiwb for edc/concealed or owb strong side for edc/concealed(occasionally) but strictly owb strong side for duty belt/battle belt.

It's actually much easier to stop you from drawing with the Appendix Carry, especially on the ground. I can literally pin your hand to your belly. Strong Side is farther away from your opponent especially if you turn your body sideways. On the ground, it's probably better because your opposite will not be able to easily get it, if you're opposite is on top of you they might just be sitting on it or they might feel it and go for it while in a dominant position.

I love the drill/training videos. Would like to see yall run some drills comparing glock43x sized guns to the glock 19 sized ones.

Quick question boys, I have had hernia surgery right where I appendix carry and it is beyond uncomfortable now, any thoughts

Strong side for Fall & Winter jacket weather…AIWB for Spring & Summer shorts & T shirts.

I'm currently deciding between the spara and the mora. A video comparing the benefits / concealability of the two would be helpful for those of us who are new to owb concealed. I'm not sure which would be the best choice for me.

interesting 430 position is the most comfortable and I don't even feel the gun on my back when sitting or driving. appendix on the other hand I feel it everywhere at all times and too much pressure on my waist and stomach for long days.

I need a winter carry holster...Another Tier 1 holster , lol . I need my head examined , I have 7 of them already and I dont work there. Wish i did though

That PDP is a game-changer! My favorite striker-fired pistol under $1000. I have a 508T on top with Floyds Custom magwell and mag extensions. Fits my hand extremely well, having 3XL hands.

How does the echo feel when sitting in a vehicle?

I will say, from a quality of life perspective I really dislike having to manipulate my holster every time I go to the restroom.

Is Clark’s m&p full-size? 4.25?

Appendix will be fastest, for me I only do 4 o’clock when I wear suits. Open carry strong side is pretty fast too. Concealed strong side or 4 o’clock is a little slower. I do agree on the shirt size. One size up so that it is slightly looser conceals better. The Tier One Concealed shirts actually fit perfectly for concealing.

I know this vid is just about speed, but I really feel that Apendix drills wasn't that fair, you had both hands pretty on the front and I think one in the need isn't always like that. For sure it's a more natural position, but if you're walking or avoiding danger you would have both hands to a side. Also, if you need to take cover fast, the first thing you want is a car, behind the front part, probably, and crouching wouldn't be that comfortable.

I’ve trained both positions, totally prefer appendix carry for my edc concealed self defense set up. Hands down! Strong side for range day (Battle belt) set up is most favorable.

@Sawyer Why did you decide to go with the m&p 2.0

Generally strong side carry is best for me when I’m carrying with a X300 on the gun.

If never owned a designated appendix carry holster, but everytime ive put it there thenslide just digs in my stomach. And barrel in crotch. If i didnt have to ait ever or drive id do it

Grappling needs to be talked about

Are these all full size guns?

For taking a wiz, I lift the belt up, unzip, and thread through. Eazy breezy.

I wish when people when they do these draws they actually show the target and where they hit. Maybe do a split screen

Tier 1 make great holster👍👍

A breakdown in slower speeds your movements to clear garments. It’s fun watching how fast you are but not so helpful when trying to really see what you are doing.

I will say this guy's, by no means am I an expert but if carrying appendix in a vehicle you should never put your seatbelt between your holster and body. Adjust your pants and holster and leave the belt outside of your gear. It seems counter intuitive, what Sawyer said is what I thought for years, I don't want my gun and holster inside my gut... But the way the belts and our hips are designed you will do yourself even worse by moving the belt between your holster and body. Don't take my word for it, do your own research. Cheers

I am a Surgical technologists and I have seen 3 different men blow off there hotdogs while appendix carrying. Kind scary. I have also seen 4 different people put rounds into their legs and hit important arteries. I won't do appendix carry due to this!! Can yall do a tuckable inside the waist band strong side video? That would be super cool

Wait…. Is that the PDP Pro?

YEAH SON I WILL NEVER CARRY A GUN POINTED AT MY HOTDOG - GOD BLESS

Now for lefties driving that's a different story. Any left handed in the T1C to appear in videos?

+1 appendix 👍 +1 strong side when at range

Someone beat Sawyer in a drill? I'm floored. I think it's the PDP, it shoots fast.

Stop making videos and make my holster I’m ready for it to get here 😂

I would like to see you sit down at a table for dinner with an appendix holster. I tried last week. It dug into my legs bad. Previous holster dug into my gut bad. I can't keep buying holsters hoping something works.

I just cannot seem to get quicker no matter how much dry practice I get

We’ve gone over this. NEVER put your seat belt between your stomach and your pistol/holster. Place the seat belt over your lap/in front/over of your holster. It’s a shame that these dudes don’t know this.

You find driving more comfortable carrying appendix than 4 o’clock? I definitely don’t.

As a fat guy, my muffin top pushes out the grip of my hand gun. And my M&P9 will catch on my shirt and hold it up.

Man, it's frightening watching you guys jam striker fired pistols back into your holsters, full force, pointed right at vital organs. Floppy t-shirts and all. This coming from someone who carries appendix with a striker fired pistol. Slow and methodical will save Frank & Beans, and your femoral artery.

I tell you what…you boys are qwickern Tom Johnson’s cat…

A "belly-shelf"? We call it a "tactical shelf" lol

Let me preface with i carry AIWB and Strong side depending on my clothing. Why would the reload be faster when you can carry your secondary mag in the front just like appendix when you carry strong side? That comment made zero sense. Who carries their mag anywhere but the front? Even if you carry strong side, your mag is in the front. Yes, the Draw can be faster, but what 0.03 seconds faster? Negligible and irrelevant unless you are running something like the fast drill. Even then, strong side doesn't prevent you from passing. Only down side with AIWB if you have a ND it will probably hit an artery and you are in serious trouble. Strong side, with my EDC, that is not a concern since the barrel is never in line with my body. Strong side, holstered, if my EDC goes off, not a big deal. AIWB...you are screwed, especially if sitting. will it happen, probably not. but you are throwing out a ton of what-ifs.

Don't waste your money with this company. First holster was a dud, that they did fix. Second holster lasted less than a year. Told me under warranty buuuut, they aren't set up to replace it. Now they don't respond to emails. T Rex Arms holsters for the win!!

3oclock for me, especially on events where there is a lot of people present, massad style, empty chamber. We are not at war, carry accordantly.

now do this from a car where you have to defend yourself.

Appendix carry is stupid . The draw strike makes it look like you are exposing yourself.