Studebaker's Last Stand

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The Studebaker Avanti is an example of an uncompromised vision. It’s a mid-century icon that bucked the conventions of its day and became immortal. The car was styled by Raymond Loewy, one of the most celebrated industrial designers in history. And because they were able to cut out the fat in the development process, it went from an idea to a production car in a little over two years, a timetable that is unprecedented among major automakers. Despite all of this, the Avanti couldn’t save Studebaker from disaster. Fewer than five years after it debuted, the company shut its doors. Why did a company drowning in red ink decide to hedge its future on a low-volume halo car? How were they able to make good on their aggressive development cycle? And most importantly, what kind of legacy did the car leave behind? This is the story of the Studebaker Avanti.
The years following World War 2 hadn’t been particularly kind to Studebaker. As the Detroit Three dusted off their pre-war designs, they rushed to release the Commander and Champion, the first all-new cars to go on sale. They were able to ride this wave for a few years, but their market share began to erode as soon as their competitors released models of their own. The Raymond Loewy-designed Starliner models are revered today, though, at the time, they weren’t exactly the soundest investment. Tooling costs were through the roof because the coupe and sedan lines shared no bodywork. Additionally, the contract with Loewy’s design consultancy was worth $1 million, a significant amount of money that Studebaker directors surely could’ve put elsewhere in the company. It also didn’t help that they abandoned the truck market right before sales in the segment took off. In 1950, they built nearly 400,000 cars and had $27 million in profits. By the end of 1954, they produced 100,000 cars and had a $26 million loss. In a matter of three short years, they let 2/3rds of their market share slip away.
On March 9th, 1961, Egbert rekindled an old relationship and invited Raymond Loewy to the Studebaker headquarters in South Bend. The meeting was pretty straightforward. He wanted him to handle design work for a high-performance halo car. It was not envisioned to be a big seller, but Egbert learned the value of such a vehicle during his round trip. Dealers heard rumors that the company planned to discontinue the Hawk. They begged him to reconsider. It drew customers to showrooms, who were then in a position to drive out in either that or another vehicle. In his mind, something that aimed even higher would only amplify this effect.
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 INTRO
1:29 PARADOX (Studebaker After WWII)
5:28 FLASH FORWARD (Raymond Loewy Design Phase)
13:01 DAYS OF FUTURE PAST (Later Development Phase)
19:56 JET SET RADIATOR FUTURE (Design Preview/Initial Reception)
24:25 PARADISE LOST (Failure/The Fall Of Studebaker)
SOURCES
www.barchetta.co/avanti-sources

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@beez1598
@beez1598 9 ай бұрын
I was at a yard sale a few months back and got friendly with the man running it. He was kind enough to show me his car collection. And sitting there was an avanti. It was truly a sight to behold. He let me sit in it and told me the many tales of that car and his life. It was a very memorable experience.
@fireballxl-5748
@fireballxl-5748 8 ай бұрын
MANY years ago I worked on cars in a small garage. We had an Avanti come in for an alignment (back then there were few good alignment techs and cars hadn't yet switched fully to radial tires to give you an idea). It was easy to work on and I liked test driving it. It was way, way ahead of it's time.
@sciencedavedunning3415
@sciencedavedunning3415 8 ай бұрын
The last I heard, the Avanti was still being built under license in Saudi Arabia. Always a popular and well received model.
@jtnelson4579
@jtnelson4579 8 ай бұрын
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@jtnelson4579 8 ай бұрын
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@KRW628
@KRW628 9 ай бұрын
Sixty years later, the Avanti is STILL beautful.
@tetchuma
@tetchuma 9 ай бұрын
I never appreciated how beautiful the Avanti was until I stood next to one. I was about 15. The fact it was developed in 2 years, shows how much of a genius Raymond Loewy was. I’ve wanted one ever since.
@zeon5323
@zeon5323 9 ай бұрын
I had a round headlight 1964 Avanti for about 25 years. Sure miss that car!
@James-cs2wi
@James-cs2wi 9 ай бұрын
Your a lucky guy 👦 😌
@lancerevell5979
@lancerevell5979 8 ай бұрын
To my 66 year old eyes, the Avanti is still the most beautiful car ever built, anywhere. A truly gorgeous piece of automotive art.
@russbell6418
@russbell6418 8 ай бұрын
I’m fond of it, but a ‘53 2-door Champion is first in my heart. (I own neither , but have a ‘62 Champ pickup.)
@THEScottCampbell
@THEScottCampbell 8 ай бұрын
The Avanti was a huge success. It was an outstanding vehicle that outlived its manufacturer. Studebaker didn't go bankrupt, either. It went out of the car building business but succeeded through diversification.
@atarian345
@atarian345 8 ай бұрын
The man with the lisp says otherwise.
@jeffking4176
@jeffking4176 8 ай бұрын
@@atarian345 At that point, NOTHING could have “saved” their Car production. 🚗😢
@theapplepaul
@theapplepaul 8 ай бұрын
One of the freshest designs ever. Saw one back in the day and was blown away by the styling. Still looks good, far more interesting than 95 % of what is being made today. Studebaker made some really cool cars. This was the most unusual, but others like the Golden Hawk were also very special.
@justajo2
@justajo2 9 ай бұрын
I was 17 when the Avanti came out. I fell hopelessly in love and have been in love ever since. I never owned one and never will, but my love affair has remained hot. Thanks to all who made this gorgeous car. You are a permanent part of history.
@lancerevell5979
@lancerevell5979 8 ай бұрын
I was six when it came out. I've loved the Studebaker "Loewy Coupes", the Hawks, Larks and especially the Avanti. I've never been able to own one, but have built 1/25th scale models of the 1953 Starliner Coupe and the Avanti.
@seanhoward8025
@seanhoward8025 9 ай бұрын
Studebaker did NOT move production to Hamilton, ON to even try to resurrect car production. The corporation did this to evade lawsuits from the dealers. By supplying this trickle of automobiles for the next two years, it allowed the company to fulfill its legal obligations to the dealer network. Once the contract was complete, Studebaker stopped all vehicle production and went on to be very profitable until Studebaker-Worthington Corporation (formed in 1967) was absorbed by McGraw-Edison in 1979. …and that’s the rest of the story.
@seed_drill7135
@seed_drill7135 9 ай бұрын
And it wasn't a "move" as they were building cars in Hamilton for years along side South Bend.
@seanhoward8025
@seanhoward8025 9 ай бұрын
@@seed_drill7135 True. For many years, the Hamilton cars had a small maple leaf 🍁 on the dash.
@caribman10
@caribman10 9 ай бұрын
It was a grift.
@seanhoward8025
@seanhoward8025 9 ай бұрын
In a manner of speaking...sort of. They brought in Sherwood Egbert to shut down automobile production. He saw the reliance South Bend had on Studebaker and made a last ditch effort to save it. When things were up for the automotive side, in the late 1950's, the Board started diversification. When Egbert became ill...and the writing was on the wall...they dribbled down the dealer network and the production with it, moving it to Hamilton, ON. Actually, some of the dealers prospered and are still in business today. They tended to be Packard dealers, who switched over to Mercedes-Benz, when Studebaker had US distribution. A couple I can think of are W.I. Simonsen in Santa Monica and Stahl Motors in Monterey, CA. Then there were other dealers, like Wise in little Newman, CA, who started as Packard, switched to Studebaker and dried up in 1966.
@seed_drill7135
@seed_drill7135 9 ай бұрын
It wasn't a grift, they were required by contract to provide cars through x number of years, which necessitated the '65 and '66 models. Their lineup was extremely dated and they had no $ to update it. They had some cool looking concepts built in '62 but they were still atop the 1953 chassis. @@caribman10
@timward3116
@timward3116 9 ай бұрын
I think a good rule of thumb is: The more highly paid a management person is, the more incompetent he is. Most companies that were once successful are driven into the ground by management.
@samrapheal1828
@samrapheal1828 8 ай бұрын
See "Boeing" devolvement of an engineering to a money company.
@timward3116
@timward3116 8 ай бұрын
@@samrapheal1828 Will do! Thanks!
@robnamowicz8073
@robnamowicz8073 4 ай бұрын
Or look at the dummies running what used to be General Motors, stupid money for stupid people.
@ultrablue2
@ultrablue2 9 ай бұрын
What always struck me about the Avanti is just how fresh and futuristic the body was compared to everything else on the road at the time. It must have looked like a spaceship in comparison. Even today it has a somewhat awkwardly sophisticated look to it. I think we need a Studebaker Starliner historic video now.
@bcbc3762
@bcbc3762 9 ай бұрын
It was no Citroen DS.
@ultrablue2
@ultrablue2 8 ай бұрын
@@bcbc3762 : Citroen is on a planet of its own, both in looks and engineering.
@dominickabbriano-ns6nf
@dominickabbriano-ns6nf 8 ай бұрын
It wasn't better looking than the Corvette or faster 😅
@dominickabbriano-ns6nf
@dominickabbriano-ns6nf 8 ай бұрын
It wasn't better looking than the Corvette or faster 😅
@jakekaywell5972
@jakekaywell5972 8 ай бұрын
@@dominickabbriano-ns6nf Looks are a subjective matter, but the Avanti absolutely was faster than a Corvette of the period. The Avanti held the speed record at the Bonneville Salt Flats until the end of the 60s.
@DanaTheInsane
@DanaTheInsane 9 ай бұрын
All the idiots here who think this is an ugly car don’t really realize what everything else looks like back then. This car was 10 years ahead of its time.
@455buick6
@455buick6 9 ай бұрын
It has to be seen in person in order to really be able to appreciate it
@johnnyjrotten59
@johnnyjrotten59 2 ай бұрын
No Uglier than a Tesla
@johnjorgensen3033
@johnjorgensen3033 8 ай бұрын
My father worked on the early Avanti project in Palm Springs. When it was given the green light the final work was to take place in NYC. My mother told me she did not want to move there. She set up the introduction of Tom to Raymond over dinner. That worked out very well.
@moneyshifters
@moneyshifters 9 ай бұрын
Design really sticks out from its competition. Beautiful car imo
@mikemiller659
@mikemiller659 9 ай бұрын
sure does...weird lookin car 4 sure
@johntechwriter
@johntechwriter 9 ай бұрын
A well-rounded overview of the the most beautiful post-war American car. Brilliant design and tireless creative staff could not make up for a complacent and out of touch executive class.
@CaptHollister
@CaptHollister 7 ай бұрын
No mention that the Avanti outlived Studebaker by decades and continued to be produced into the early 2000s. After Studebaker got out of the car business, one of the former dealers incorporated the Avanti Car Company which continued producing the car as the Avanti II with Chevy and Ford components. Some of your videos in which cars are coming down the production line are in fact of post-Studebaker Avanti IIs, recognizable by the square headlight buckets.
@JohnEdward-no4gu
@JohnEdward-no4gu 5 ай бұрын
The 62 had the round headlights, the 63 had the squarish bezels surrounding the headlights.
@jacobrzeszewski6527
@jacobrzeszewski6527 9 ай бұрын
I live in South Bend. My grandpa worked at the Studebaker factory all the way until it's closing. South Bend was essentially a mini company town. It was seen as a mini Detroit. The failure of Studebaker was an incredible damper on the city and led to a downturn that's only been reversed in the last couple decades. It was one of the instigators of white flight in the city, which my grandpa wasn't above. BTW, my dad tried to steal the concerete Studebaker sign on display at the museum today. Apparently the building was transferring ownership pretty soon so they wanted to take it before it did. The new owner got wind of their plan and told them to buzz off. Not that they would have had any luck moving a one ton sign anyway. Even with the help of my uncle.
@caribman10
@caribman10 9 ай бұрын
What other American company has tried to sell and resell basically the same car through three decades?
@jacobrzeszewski6527
@jacobrzeszewski6527 9 ай бұрын
@@caribman10 Ford, GM, Nissan.
@mikekokomomike
@mikekokomomike 9 ай бұрын
With a last name like yours I believe it, my brother in law is from Mishawaka and he worked at Dodge up there and his friends had Polish names. One ran OB's Tavern in late 70s.
@jacobrzeszewski6527
@jacobrzeszewski6527 9 ай бұрын
@@mikekokomomike And my grandpa was well and truly a polack. I remember as a kid him unironically playing polka music in his minivan. Bonus: how many polacks does it take to unscrew a lightbulb? The answer is five. One to hold the bulb and the other four to spin the ladder.
@mikekokomomike
@mikekokomomike 9 ай бұрын
@@jacobrzeszewski6527 yeah it's a great area up there, I live in Kokomo and my brother in law has one of those old split windshield Studebaker trucks. The Dodge factory he worked at was unrelated to Dodge Chrysler. It was a machine shop of some sort, maybe making pulleys or sheaves.
@neildickson5394
@neildickson5394 9 ай бұрын
Studebaker did quite a lot right. It lasted for over 125 years. It was the only successful wagon carrige maker to enter and succeed in the automobile business in all the world. It was consistently in the top leading car builders in the United States. I could go on, they developed many firsts, were a revolutionary and innovative company. Hopefully, the Avanti will return yet again.
@russbell6418
@russbell6418 8 ай бұрын
And of course, was manufactured by a non-Studebaker entity up through 2006.
@neildickson5394
@neildickson5394 8 ай бұрын
@@russbell6418 Yes, and it only failed because the CEO was a crook, and landed in jail where he died, from a fraudulent real estate scheme in Mexico. Sad as well because Avanti had just built a state of the art Manufacturing facility, and beautiful new showroom in Cancun. Last model was 2007.
@RobertWheeler-xh3zc
@RobertWheeler-xh3zc 9 ай бұрын
My first car was a '54 Studebaker coupe. Who knew that the future would decide that the Starliner look would be considered classic. It was one of the few cars I regret getting rid of.
@f4udhorn
@f4udhorn 9 ай бұрын
Some of the mitigating circumstances surrounding Studebaker's failure, can't be deniged, but lack of emphasis on one aspect that really "tanked" them, was the thousands of orders for the Avanti, that were cancelled because of failure to deliver. And this blame can be placed solely at the feet of the Ashtabula, Ohio fiberglass factory responsible for the bodies. They gave all their output priority to GM's Corvette bodies, of which there was more orders. I loved my Avanti and wished I'd never sold it!
@caribman10
@caribman10 9 ай бұрын
Studebaker sold as may Avantis as it could service.
@f4udhorn
@f4udhorn 8 ай бұрын
I don't believe that.@@caribman10
@terrenceolivido741
@terrenceolivido741 5 ай бұрын
wow, you may have picked out the " nail " that was missing so a whole war was lost.
@Eddie-Bell
@Eddie-Bell 9 ай бұрын
This is brilliant - a story I’ve always wanted to know more about. Thank you, Barchetta!
@Barchetta
@Barchetta 9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@eduardopena5893
@eduardopena5893 9 ай бұрын
There is a red one of these roaming around the highways and beltways of Maryland. I was driving home from work and then this red car passed me. It was definitely a standout. At first, I didn't realize what it was because I only caught a glimpse and could only see the tail end. Once I got a bit closer and pulled closer to be alongside of it, I knew what it was.
@Sashazur
@Sashazur 8 ай бұрын
As a kid this was one of my favorite cars, it looked so futuristic to me. It still looks really handsome!
@2coolwheels139
@2coolwheels139 9 ай бұрын
Great video, now I have a better understanding of what led to Studebakers demise. My two dream cars are the Raymond Loewy designed Studebakers: the 53 Starliner Coupe and the 63 Avanti, both cars styling well ahead of their time.
@lancerevell5979
@lancerevell5979 8 ай бұрын
Same here! Gorgeous cars. ❤
@barrykochverts4149
@barrykochverts4149 9 ай бұрын
One thing: The Lark was a compact, not a subcompact, and was actually a full-size Studebaker with the ends chopped off. They did a pretty good job of it, IMO.
@caribman10
@caribman10 9 ай бұрын
Again, selling the '53 Starlite under another body....
@JohnEdward-no4gu
@JohnEdward-no4gu 5 ай бұрын
The Avante body was placed upon the Lark chassis.
@davebennett4087
@davebennett4087 9 ай бұрын
Raymond Loewy DID NOT design the 1953-1954 Commander Starliner. That honor goes Robert Bourke. Although Loewy was a highly respected industrial designer, he was not capable of drawing a car with such impeccably subtle lines as the “Loewy coupe.” Yes, Loewy was project manager and took credit, but those who know better, credit the true genius, Robert (Bob) Bourke.
@f4udhorn
@f4udhorn 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely, I've heard that my whole life.
@JohnEdward-no4gu
@JohnEdward-no4gu 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for setting the record straight about Bob Bourke... 🤗
@user-uw4ch8qr5e
@user-uw4ch8qr5e 9 ай бұрын
Great explanation of the details of car design. I wanted to be a car designer in 7th grade and participated in GM's Fisher Body design program by building models of future designs. I loved Raymond Loewey's designs. It is a bit sad that Studibaker was under such financial pressure (as I loved the Hawk Gran Truismo series).
@tedecker3792
@tedecker3792 2 ай бұрын
Fisher body Craftsman Guild was a big deal for kids my age back then. I even sent for the college catalog for the Art Center College of Design, hoping to go there and worked on a portfolio of my drawings. However my high school guidance counselor discouraged me. Apparently Native American kids didn’t do that in the early 60s. Small minded people ruled my world.
@danr1920
@danr1920 9 ай бұрын
Avant's are even better looking in person!
@DblIre
@DblIre 4 ай бұрын
I remember seeing an Avanti (II?) in 1971 with a hand-tooled leather bra. Absolutely gorgeous. STILL a gorgeous car today.
@XA351GT
@XA351GT 8 ай бұрын
Studebaker was ahead of it's time . I was at the Auto Museum in Hershey a couple years ago and they had a pick up there from 1963 that had a ladder attached to the tail gate . Sound familiar ? Small companies that brought out new tech were ignored only to see their innovations adopted by the Big 3 years later and lauded for them. AMC suffered the same fate.
@ghw7192
@ghw7192 7 ай бұрын
My first car was a 1955 Packard Patrician and we needed a part. That was after the merger and the Studebaker dealership was located in the old Packard building in Atlanta, so while we were there, we visited the showroom. The Avanti had just been introduced and they had one. I had never seen a car that beautiful! Over 50 years later, the car is still stunning!
@petermontoya1796
@petermontoya1796 9 ай бұрын
Before I was born, my parents owned a Studebaker. It was a station wagon, because of the kids. Years later in the 1970's when I was a teenager my pops would tell me that back in the late 1950's, he could get that Studebaker unto 120 MPH !! I couldn't imagine going that fast in a wagon on the roads in the 1950's !! IDK whatever happened to that beast ?? Nice video.
@mattskustomkreations
@mattskustomkreations 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for putting this together. When showing “the competition” you showed a ‘67 Camaro… Also of note McCulloch was the founder of Paxton Superchargers, which was then purchased by Studebaker in 1962. I’m guessing Egbert convinced his new company to buy his former employer. Lastly, I may have missed it, but GM/Chevrolet threatened the fiberglass suppliers to not supply Studebaker or risk losing GM’s business.
@billsheddy6464
@billsheddy6464 8 ай бұрын
One footnote to my Aunts love of Studebaker Hawks, in about 1995, out of the blue I received a phone call from an auto collector from Ohio who had bought the 1964 Hawk and was restoring it. He wanted to see if we had any historical pictures in our family albums of the Hawk. Surprised and flattered, we actually found a couple from early delivery days which we sent along to an appreciative Study collector.
@tphvictims5101
@tphvictims5101 9 ай бұрын
I’m 70 and I remember seeing them around my town. I’d drive one of those in a hot second.
@willcrockett6707
@willcrockett6707 8 ай бұрын
Great job on the video buddy! I wanted to tell you thank you for the excellent job of narration and your really audio quality. Well done.
@dinofalabrino8522
@dinofalabrino8522 8 ай бұрын
Studebaker was the oldest car company, celebrating its 100 year anniversary in 1957. They started out with covered wagons in 1857.
@charlesrovira5707
@charlesrovira5707 8 ай бұрын
I just loved that car... The *Avanti* was a great piece of design.
@johna.4334
@johna.4334 8 ай бұрын
"There was plenty of blame to go around as to why the company failed" UAW being the primary culprit.
@CD513
@CD513 9 ай бұрын
GREAT VIDEO. 1st one of yours for me...will be on the others directly.
@rizzlerazzleuno4733
@rizzlerazzleuno4733 8 ай бұрын
Our family owned two Avantis. First was destroyed when a drunk ran into it. It was white with a beautiful turquoise interior. Second one was also white with a burgundy interior. We lived in SoCal where it does not rain a lot, but in the rain, even with the Firestone 500 tires the handling was dangerous. The 289 engine was a gas hog (10-12 mpg requiring high octane fuel) and a Mustang or Falcon with a 289 was more fun to drive. There are several comprehensive published histories of Studebaker and several factors in the companies' demise should be noted: 1) The Studebaker factory and employees were the most inefficient of the major manufacturers. The cost per unit to build a car was much higher than what it cost the Big 3 to build cars, and thus the profit per car was lower 2) the styling for the Lark was bland and out-dated compared to what the Big 3 and even American Motors were doing. 3) the build quality and engineering were not equal to what the other American companies had to offer. Thanks for this video. 👍 I highly recommend viewers read one of the written histories and visit the Studebaker National Museum in South Bend. The cars built before WWII are truly magnificent.
@Noah_E
@Noah_E 8 ай бұрын
Before retiring, my dad owned an antique car restoration business focused on Studebaker and Packard. He has a couple go through the shop over the years. They have all the same problems as fiberglass Corvettes. They can look spotless from above, but have every bit of the metal structure rotted away. The fiberglass can and does change shape over time and they weren't exactly masters of fit and finish to start with. It's a shame they aren't worth more because it's really easy to spend more getting one sorted than you'll ever get out of it. Spend $20k on a $30k Avanti and you end up with a $35 Avanti. That makes them a loser in the collector community.
@billsheddy6464
@billsheddy6464 8 ай бұрын
My swinger Aunt bought a Study Hawk back in about 1960. Years later the car drew stares and admiring glances. She traded every few years and by the trade year she had a Cadre of psychophant gas jockey buyers hanging on her every trade in move. Of course I was hoping she would buy an Avanti as a successor car, but she went with an even nicer, up to date Hawk instead. It was really sharp, but an Avanti@!!!!!
@RandyOnTheRadio
@RandyOnTheRadio 9 ай бұрын
I was a little kid when Studebaker went out of business, but I found out about the Avanti car's about 10 years ago. I fell in love with them. They are so futuristic and just a sexy car. My other rare car that I like, is the Bricklin.
@russbell6418
@russbell6418 8 ай бұрын
I have a real fascination those Crosleys he mentioned. The engine out of the Crosley Hot-Shot was used in some early experimental Mooneys (revealing a crankshaft weakness). Of course, Mooney went on to be a major player in high speed personal transport.
@drstevenrey
@drstevenrey 7 ай бұрын
My mother, 1923-2000, learned to drive in a Commander in 1947. When the Avanti came out I was a little kid of 5 and was tickled pink when we saw one. It was such a glorious car from any angle.
@life_of_riley88
@life_of_riley88 9 ай бұрын
I have to believe the car, as designed originally was stunningly gorgeous. Unfortunately the "no grille" directive, and removal of the rear fender bulges really took too much away from what could have been. The rear of the Avanti was always like 98% perfect. Seeing the sketches and the tale about the lights, it all makes sense now.
@fredherfst8148
@fredherfst8148 7 ай бұрын
The Avanti was gorgeous and growling.
@jeffbrinkerhoff5121
@jeffbrinkerhoff5121 9 ай бұрын
As a kid in north Indiana in the 50-60s there were many Studebakers in our small town. Mostly Hawks, a couple Larks, some older Pioneers, and one Avanti. My favorite design series were the Hawks. Golden, Silver, Power, Sky, Flight.. even the names are cool..(Power Hawk!)
@waynejohnson1304
@waynejohnson1304 8 ай бұрын
I read an article about 5 years ago which explained why Studebaker went out of business. It seems that Studebaker had another company make the fiberglass bodies for the new Avantis. When they came back to be installed however, Studebaker found that they didn't fit and had to be cut to fit every car. It was an expensive process that Studebaker could not afford to do. It's a shame too because Studebaker was not a bad little car. My grandparents bought their first one after the war because it was the first car available. They liked them so much that they stayed with Studebaker until they went out of business in 1965.
@splender88
@splender88 9 ай бұрын
Years ago when I was pretty much a kid there was an Avanti dealership at the end of my street. They also had a shop of course so I saw these things every day and thought what an odd-looking car it was. Of course, it eventually closed yet some of those cars sat there for years.
@stephenmeier4658
@stephenmeier4658 8 ай бұрын
Always fascinating to watch footage of radial aircraft engines when discussing automobiles
@bobz1736
@bobz1736 9 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation. You should have more subs ! 😊
@wj6107
@wj6107 9 ай бұрын
Hey I loved this video, long time fan of yours. I was wondering if you would consider making a video on the GS line from Lexus. Truly some unique and forward-thinking cars. My favorite is the 4th gen (2013-2015).
@SP00TNIC
@SP00TNIC 9 ай бұрын
I always liked the design And for everyone that doesn't know that the car hit 203 mph!!! in the salt flats!!! Stock car as built from the factory insanity if you think about it faster than a Ferrari and Lamborghini at that time or any other street car from the factory stock And it wasn't even a supercar it was just a luxury sports car beating supercars
@delasse3178
@delasse3178 8 ай бұрын
my dad used to love these cars. recently i saw a couple for sale and had to daydream a minute. i could tell a few avanti stories with my dad, despite only having seen less than half a dozen in the wild. here are two: my dad was a cop a long time. before i was born he was working overnight as a cop and as a mechanic in the day. he knew a guy with a bunch of avantis and i believe he helped manage them. he had his own as well, it was a project car, and he worked on it forever. put a supercharger on it and did it up, the works. life was life tho. so he finished the car and said he pulled out of the shop, and smoked the tires all the way from the shop to his house, up the driveway, parked it in the garage and told me he never drove it again. sold it soon after. couldn't explain his reasoning to me. said he was busy and had my brother and sister to take care of or something. it sat with me. the way i saw him get around avantis at car shows.... gotta prioritize stuff in life lol. whatever that means. the other story ill say is the guy who had the avantis -- he had a whole warehouse full of them -- maybe like 8 9 10 12... there was a fire and they all burnt and were destroyed. it was the guys entire collection of cars. damn shame! i wish i could get one and put some LS something or other in it and just rat it out in my dads memory. i cant help think of this ad... guy has 2 for sale in Maine I think... asking around 4k. The greasemonkey stomach in me aches lol
@hondaxl250k0
@hondaxl250k0 8 ай бұрын
First vehicle I ever drove was a stude truck on the farm.. 3 on the tree. And starter under the clutch. Grandpa also had a 53 RL star liner coupe . In seafoam green.. and a 1960 something. Daytona r2. He had others too. Great cars and trucks.. made a hell of a wheelbarrow as well. 😁
@alangeddes268
@alangeddes268 9 ай бұрын
I was just a preteen and remember my older brother owning 2 of them. The car was amazing to me.
@rwdplz1
@rwdplz1 8 ай бұрын
Fiero owner here, was NOT expecting that intro, but you nailed it.
@erwinrommel2055
@erwinrommel2055 8 ай бұрын
I met this guy well one of 2 who worked on the car in Detroit in 1988. He brought the car in for an oil change and he told me how they worked on it for a few years in I think Arizona. Cool engineer.
@frequentlycynical642
@frequentlycynical642 8 ай бұрын
It was April, 1949, a month before my third birthday. I remember my father pulling into our driveway in the brand new Studebaker Champion, green with wide whitewalls. Three on the column, 60 HP flat head six. We actually towed a small travel trailer from Long Island to Florida and back three times! Not many years later, my across the street friend's Dad bought a light and dark two tone blue Starlight coupe. So Many years later, I met Stan, who became the best male friend I ever had. His dad had worked as a custodian at Studebaker until it closed. There is a Golden Hawk about a mile from where I live, I pass by frequently. Out in the weather, grrrrr. Put some contemporary low profile wheels and (not white wall!) tires on the Avanti, and you would swear it just rolled off of the line today. What a beautiful car. So appealing that there was an Avanti II, not by Studebaker.
@chrishigbie8645
@chrishigbie8645 7 ай бұрын
I remember Avanti. They were cool. There were a few of them around when we were kids . I remember because I knew what Avanti meant for some reason.
@drewgayle8325
@drewgayle8325 9 ай бұрын
this was because the corvette got all of the fibriglass
@Raider19582
@Raider19582 9 ай бұрын
I'd love to own one!
@pilsudski36
@pilsudski36 9 ай бұрын
The Avanti was not a failure - at all. The Studebaker turbo Golden Hawk was not a failure either. Both the Golden Hawk and the Avanti came too late in the game to save Stuudebaker. (In a tribute to Studebaker from an unlikely source, Nikita Khruschev said in a 1957 speech that it was a disgrace to the Soviet Union that Soviet transportation still depended on Studebaker trucks from WWII lend lease.)
@clydecortright2437
@clydecortright2437 7 ай бұрын
Great video! By the way, what is the music--love that trumpet.
@CD513
@CD513 9 ай бұрын
Dad had a white/turq 64. Great driver condition...and he did for yrs in the 90s...i got to twice. Then had its driverside melted off...in his driveway when the travel trailer (parked Right next to it) decided to fry its breakerbox/waterheater unit and turned into its own pile... All Dad could do was hold the garden hose on the pair of propane btls on the tounge of the trailer....probably wishing he at least had the tires aired up....😢
@johnwillis4706
@johnwillis4706 3 ай бұрын
I have my dad's Hawk and Avanti. I have recently completed a full restoration of the Avanti. A year ago, I finished the Hawk. Both are 4 speed manuals with manual overdrives. Both are super charged, and they are a joy to drive. It's a shame Studebaker and Packard bot went out of business. My current project is a 1937 Packard Twin six.
@Rod-bp8ow
@Rod-bp8ow 9 ай бұрын
"It has a preserve approach, it is different"
@niekgozer26
@niekgozer26 8 ай бұрын
I saw one of these in my home town of arnhem (in the Netherlands) a few days ago and had no idea what it was. Now this shows up in my recommendations!
@jayloyrecords
@jayloyrecords 7 ай бұрын
My grandfather was a body man. He owned a body shop in Dayton. He hated Studebaker and referred to them as a Stupid-Baker. I asked why he called them that and he said because they look the same coming and going. I guess he was trying to point out that the front was indistinguishable from the rear or that the front and rear looked the same.
@5610winston
@5610winston 9 ай бұрын
0:48 Raymond Loewy assembled the team of Bob Andrews, John Ebstein, and Tom Kellogg and the team under Loewy's supervision created the design. 1:51 Loewy presented the Starlight/Starlnerdesigns to Studebaker, but it was Loewy Associates designer Bob Bourke who penned the basic design profile. Starlight shown. 2:42 The Lark was a compact, not a sub-compact, and its passenger cabin shared dimensions with the immediatey-preceding full-size Champion and Commander models. 7:32 Don't overlook the Studebaker-Porsche project Z87.
@terrenceolivido741
@terrenceolivido741 5 ай бұрын
i remember vaguely the " avanti " from my youth. my reaction was the same here, there is something very special in the look.
@timberrr1126
@timberrr1126 3 ай бұрын
My friend’s father had a 65 Avanti. I got to drive it. It was changed by Andy Grannetelli by adding two superchargers. This was in Santa Monica CA. I wanted to floor it, but I thought it disrespectful to do so. It had magnesium wheels. Avanti is one of the most handsome cars ever made.
@RTS222
@RTS222 9 ай бұрын
A lot of the blame lies with Studebaker's board of directors. They hired Egbert in hopes of further diversification from the auto business. But he thought the auto division could be saved by a radically new car that would drive interest in their other offerings and change the stodgy image of Studebaker. When he presented the clay model to the board, they became hooked on Avanti and forgot about diversification (which was driving profits). Egbert had no experience in automobile production and pushed Avanti development through in record time for the industry. But there were a lot of hiccups...especially producing enough vehicles to satisfy initial demand and requests by dealers to have an Avanti in their showrooms. Advance orders were canceled, and new orders were few and far between. By the summer of 1963 the writing was on the wall - Avanti wasn't selling; Egbert was out sick; and dealer orders for their other '64 vehicles were down from the previous year. Egbert was bought out in November '63 and new President Byers Burlingame had the dubious distinction of shuttering the South Bend plant. Burlingame had no choice as Studebaker was losing too much money manufacturing automobiles. Fortunately for Avanti fans, two Studebaker dealers in South Bend revived Avanti and the unique car lived on until 2006.
@jimbrown8842
@jimbrown8842 9 ай бұрын
very enjoyable video,had me digging out "studebaker the postwar years" by richard m langworth from 1979.this was probably the definitive book at the time and still a good reference,i think it might still be available.....
@hunkydorian
@hunkydorian 8 ай бұрын
The profile of this car obviously inspired the Mustang, which started the whole ponycar thing.
@user-tj8wv7ri7d
@user-tj8wv7ri7d 8 ай бұрын
Being from a farming community, I'd only had a quick glance or two of an Avanti. Then one day, in my junior year of college one of my classmates drove a new one onto campus. The design was beautiful then, and in my mind it still is. My classmate was somewhat of a wastrel from a well to do mid-west family. He stayed out late, never studied and his grades were trash. Daddy told him if he brought his grades up to a "C" by the summer break he'd get a new car. How he did it I don't know, his late night habits never changed but in the fall here he was in the Avanti. Sadly, he partied hearty and wrecked the Avanti, followed by letting his grades slip into the "F" range, quickly followed by being drafted into the Army for the Vietnam war. Such is life. I also believe that the Studebaker Hawk and especially the Golden Hawk were beautiful designs and I remember very nice to drive. Thanks for the history.
@AdullFiddler-ez7tm
@AdullFiddler-ez7tm 27 күн бұрын
Studebakers were not uncommon in our area in the late '50s-early '60s. My uncle had a '57 Silver Hawk in a beautiful red that was very impressive. He had it for a couple of years and then had a white Avanti for a about a year. Now that was awesome looking and attracted a lot of admiration. It reminded me of a spy car. I enjoyed this detailed look into their story especially about Raymond Loewy and the Palm Springs 'getaway'. Palm Springs was so nice in those days. An Avanti would have been perfect to cruise in.
@mattwilson3244
@mattwilson3244 8 ай бұрын
A Beautifull ,Last Hurrah !
@stuffhappens5681
@stuffhappens5681 9 ай бұрын
The Avanti is a car design that from many angles shouldn’t work. And yet it does. Very avant-garde. The original round headlight under glass versions look best. As the years progressed there were several updated versions. All failed to capture what I’d refer to as the awkward symmetry of the original body style. Very cool car.
@tomnekuda3818
@tomnekuda3818 9 ай бұрын
I always wanted this car. My uncle had a Hawk with the Paxton and it would really pull on the highway.
@kimmer551
@kimmer551 8 ай бұрын
I actually know the family that started it, they are very humble and kind. Hell of a car.
@trainliker100
@trainliker100 7 күн бұрын
For the Starliner shown early in the video, you might notice the three pointed star logo, especially at 2:16. Mercedes-Benz told Studebaker that it resembled their three pointed emblem too much and could not use it. Studebaker obliged removed the downward pointing leg making it a V instead of a tri-star. Interestingly, Studebaker became the distributor for Mercedes-Benz in the U.S. and Canada from 1957-1963. And the door locks in the Avanti are Mercedes-Benz cone style door locks. These were better door locks than the typical and part of a safety improvement.
@IowaBudgetRCBashers
@IowaBudgetRCBashers 9 ай бұрын
Tge avanti wasn’t meant to save the company, it and the super lark were meant to go out with a bang. Studebaker continued to be in business until 1979, they merely just stopped making cars. And the avanti 2 was made from 1967-1989 in the original avanti factory.
@billwalsh9711
@billwalsh9711 7 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention that the Avanti lived on long after Studebaker. I worked in a Chevrolet dealership in the seventies that leased Avanti's for large sums of money. It was a "full service" lease. All maintenance was covered in the lease payments.
@jdmfan7748
@jdmfan7748 7 ай бұрын
When I first saw that car in person a couple months ago it was really wierd but classic and very unique with that shiny red in a showroom
@andrewslagle1974
@andrewslagle1974 9 ай бұрын
What was not stated was the 1963 AVANTI R3 supercharged 289ci v8 WAS the FASTEST production CAR in THE WORLD !I believe it attained 165 mph off the showroom floor!
@vernanderson4358
@vernanderson4358 5 ай бұрын
Wasn't a 289 per se. Bored out to 299 then 304 cubes it topped 168 then Oct 63 topped 170+ MPH two way average. But actual top end was 178.5 mph. Only USA Auto maker and car to EVER make the world's fastest production car between 1949 and 2012. NO big 3 EVER made it.
@AlanRoehrich9651
@AlanRoehrich9651 9 ай бұрын
They're really cool cars. Even the replicas are cool.
@guypehaim1080
@guypehaim1080 9 ай бұрын
As a car, the Avanti was not a failure, rather, the company failed the car. The failure of the company began in the 1950's with labor disputes and strikes. Also, the lineup of the Studebaker models were difficult to pigeonhole as to which models were the elite and which were the "sport" models.
@bluetopguitar1104
@bluetopguitar1104 8 ай бұрын
When i was a teenager in the 70s i had a friend who's dad had one. Looked like it was going 150 mph sitting still. Unfortunately I never got a ride. Very cool looking.
@bunk-bn9eo
@bunk-bn9eo 7 ай бұрын
It's a shame, people weren't ready for this car. I would love to take a supercharged Avanti for a spin.
@jackrice2770
@jackrice2770 6 ай бұрын
I test drove an Avanti several years ago. It was an original, unrestored car, ran okay, but needed help. I was rather surprised that it wasn't as 'plush' as I expected, the steering was very heavy, and it wasn't what I would call quick. I'd ridden in a Studebaker Hawk in high school at that was a really nice car. The Avanti, by comparison, felt a little unrefined. But yeah, it looks really cool.
@craigluft7453
@craigluft7453 8 ай бұрын
"Jet Set Radiator Future" didn't expect a reference like that when I clicked on this video
@johnl1685
@johnl1685 9 ай бұрын
In spite of all the financial troubles, to this day I can't understand how a car this stunning and beautiful could actually fail and not catapult ANY company into a skyrocket success. I was 9 yrs old when I first saw one of these parked in my neighborhood and I thought it was the neatest car in the world. It still is.
@eduardopena5893
@eduardopena5893 9 ай бұрын
Because it was the wrong car at the wrong time. What Studebaker needed at the time was a high volume seller.
@jakekaywell5972
@jakekaywell5972 8 ай бұрын
@@eduardopena5893 Which was the Lark, and really all the car division of Studebaker could afford. What Studebaker needed was a halo car unlike any other to get people into showrooms, which the Avanti was.
@FoundonthestreetUSA
@FoundonthestreetUSA 7 ай бұрын
Studebaker did not shut its doors in 1966. The Studebaker Board had initiated diversification programs to exit the auto market back in 1961. Those strategies allow Studebaker to continue as a company for the next twenty years. Later absorbed into McGraw Industries, Studebaker was still a business unit as late as 1985. Egbert never had full support of the Board. Auto business continuation post December of 1963 was merely and exercise to fulfill contractual dealer agreements and reduction of automotive parts inventory
@nFlames2
@nFlames2 9 ай бұрын
I work on some of the were simple & easy to work on.
@garypippenger202
@garypippenger202 8 ай бұрын
All car buffs look at the Avanti with longing and regret that Studebaker could not continue to develop and sell cars. On the other hand, cars became safer by 1968, until today. An accident in an Avanti wouldn't be pretty, but I imagine most owners were careful with such a special car. Most of our cars are exponentially safer today: One of my sons crashed a 1997 Chevy Malibu, driving drunk, flying along a local road with curves and small hills . . . hit a utility pole, then the car flipped over before coming to a rest. But he did have his seatbelt on and the airbag was effective. He walked away from it---to the police who were called to the scene. The new Corvettes and Mustangs and Challengers, etc., have poor crash ratings but the boring sedans are a lot safer. Still, the Avanti is still a beautiful creation for collectors today.
@Idahoguy10157
@Idahoguy10157 9 ай бұрын
As a teenager I had a neighbor who drove an Avanti. Fast car!
@braddietzmusic2429
@braddietzmusic2429 7 ай бұрын
I’m going to reject at least the title immediately because that car never looked dated, has always been timeless, and while Studebaker did fail as a company, that the Avanti still succeeds as one of the most beautiful cars ever built, it is therefore NOT a failure.
@Hybridknfgrowchannel
@Hybridknfgrowchannel 9 ай бұрын
Sweet car
@phillipblades6784
@phillipblades6784 9 ай бұрын
This Avanti styling reminds me of the mid-80s Mercury Cougar.
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