Oh no professors may actually need to speak with their students to see if they understand the material….. or professors don’t care and they use chatGPT to grade the chatGPT to keep that sweet money coming in to the universities.

It takes most people a college degree to realize they don't need a college degree.

I am a engineering student in my 40's. Nick is absolutely dead-on accurate. 90% of it is an utter waste of time and 99% of it is an utter waste of money.

My buddy couldn't get some IT work because he didn't have the certs, but the people that have the certs can't do the job whereas he can.

“If you want to get laid, go to college. If you want an education, go to the library.” ― Frank Zappa

11:20 " unlike paying someone online to write your essay for you, this is free." So your problem isn't that students can cheat, it's that poor students can cheat.

My physics professor in college taught us how to use the Internet to look up things on effectively because he knew that in the real world we were going to use external resources like the Internet and whatever to look things up, so why not learn how to do it the right way.

“Give me 10’s of thousands and years of your life for this degree, and you’ll get a job.” “Okay, here’s my money and time.” “Jokes on you, you’re not getting a job.” “Oh ya? Well I cheated anyway.” “Wha? Bah! You can’t do that!!”

My mentor who went to law school is worried herself. She kept saying that "students don't know how to write now a days anyway." She mentioned that it is going to get worse.

I don't see why any college would be worried honestly. It's not as if they care if the students learn anything, as long as they pay money and do the time for their degree. School isn't a place for smart people.

Colorado is discussing no longer requiring passing the bar to be an attorney. Idiocracy

Lets be real here, college professors don't even care that much about the content of a paper. I wrote a million papers in high school and college, all of which I threw together the night before they were due, and all of them I got A's on. Why? Because when they are grading a paper they only care if it checks certain boxes. Does it have the right structure, does it contain x, y, and z. I would literally write papers for classes I barely attended with nothing but the knowledge I already had, randomly throw in a quote from a few books from the library when I was done and would get notes about how brilliant it was. These professors want to pretend that kids are putting so much effort into their papers and that having AI do it is cheating, but they are already phoning in the assignment anyway. They are just spouting off a bunch of pretentious BS they know you want to hear and supplementing it with a bunch of pretentious quotes from sources they looked up in the back of the textbook. They already don't give a shit about your dumb assignment. What difference does it make if they pretend to do a research paper themselves or let an AI pretend for them.

Who could have seen this coming? . . . anyone who has ever been a student; anyone who has ever taught students; anyone with an understanding of human nature; anyone with common sense; . . . everyone except the education establishment.

Professor gets schooled by his own corruption scheme. Then cries about it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

They're not worried as long as the cash flows. A gentleman of your stature and creed would understand

They’re going to start seeing some fully fleshed out reports. Probably better than their own stuff.

When I was a freshman in College (~7 years ago), I was the only student in my World History (post 1860) class that could write a standard high school essay. The professor tried to teach the class how to write a basic essay all semester. _Tried_

What they don't get is that some of us learn way more and enjoy it more when the teacher actually talks with us instead of assigning essays upon essays upon essays

I knew I liked you. I convinced my students to improve their vocabulary to freak out other teachers. It worked. Scared the teachers. Students laughed, and actually understood more of the content...

As a professor in computer science, I knew this was coming (didn't know quite so quick) and I'm teaching students to use it in my next class. But I came from industry and feel the same way, learning is the key. Grades are super imprecise, mostly meaningless, measures and the right answer is unimportant if you don't know how to get there. The new skill is going to be how to leverage AI and be able to know when it is going awry.

You're not wrong about the importance of free knowledge dissemination through platforms like youtube. KZfaq has effectively made me an auto mechanic. I haven't had to take my car to the shop in years, and I sure as hell didn't go to school for that.

The “abject terror” they are experiencing is from the fear for their jobs and careers going down the swirly as more ppl wake up to “higher” learning being a scam.

They should be more worried that AI is basically already good enough to complete replace university professors.

Well, I mean 80% of the things I learned in college was absolutely useless and the time I spent watching tutorials on KZfaq helped me infinitely more.

When I found someone cheating (mainly because they turned in MY PAPER and didn't even have the decency of removing my name off it.) The teacher didn't do anything because they were females and athletes. This student should have claimed they were transgender or something and that this was harassment instead of confessing. Hoped they learned that lesson.

The plagiarism program that universities use is terrible. Every paper I've written has flagged for some percentage of plagiarism, despite being 100% my original work.

How is that even cheating? He literally had to input work to get a desired output. He made it unique to him.

I don't blame them at all for using ChatGPT to "cheat" on essays. I wasted so much time writing pointless essays instead of actually being taught stuff.

Many of the younger folks applying for a professional role at my work (with degrees) are incredibly under-developed and unprepared to work and produce work product and AT THE SAME TIME incredibly over-confident and expect promotions, money and status associated with being in the field for a decade....we are effed lol.

If this student was working on a business degree, he could have made an excuse and said he was studying the effects of outsourcing with the dawn of AI and machine learning. A+++.

When I started college in 1988, I had quit school and got my GED without any highschool. I always loved to read and learn on my own. So in college, I was shocked at students who finished highschool would try and sit near me to try and copy my test especially if multiple choice or true/ false type exams. I studied and since I was an adult student I was 25 with a husband and son. It wasn't easy but I always made the Dean's list and anyone else could do the same. I didn't care about history back then but since I'm older, I understand the importance of history but the lecture type teaching is boring. Cheers 🥂

The use of ChatGPT in academic settings is but a mere continuation of the age-old practice of plagiarism, made all the more efficient by the advent of the internet. It is nothing new, merely a new manifestation of an old vice. Perhaps more effective.

Why do their assignments take so little critical thought that an AI can derrive the answer from web articles.

I was concerned for a moment that maybe it was an engineering teacher or something that was worried about people cheating their way up the ladder without understanding very important concepts. Then I saw it was a philosophy teacher and immediately stopped caring.

The professor only caught the student cheating because they admitted it. Honestly, as long as the student properly learns, why should people bother writing an essay? You are only hurting yourself if you don't learn your major.

If your degree doesn't start filtering out cheaters automatically by the second year, it's not worth it.

So this "professor" is accusing this student despite the fact he has zero actual evidence.... alot of circumstantial evidence but no provable facts...

Great content. I left my senior year with 1 semester left, to start a business. Its been 7 years and I do not have a single regret.

Writing papers has always been a terrible way to judge a student's understanding of the material. It's so easy to bs a paper and regurgitate info in paragraph form. It always felt like a time sink, and the grading is so subjective based on the professor's personal opinion. Hopefully, things like this will make educators rethink the flawed ways they evaluate their students.

Sounds like teachers may want to get their students to write. On paper. With handwriting. In-class. God, the horror these poor teachers have to face!

Knowledge is to know where to look something up. An "AI" is just a shortcut to knowing someone who knows where to look most efficiently and have him do the work while being at it. It's not cheating, it is a smart usage of ones time. If an educator really wants to know wether someone "learned" something, they test his knowledge in a controlled environment, they don't give assignments to solve however the student sees fit.

I would use it to get an outline of my paper, then go find citations for the statements, and finally go through and correct the grammar to match my own writing. Paper done in an hours tops.

Why are they worried? They don't care about grades as long as their line is towed.

I noticed a ridiculous increase in essays/papers when I went back to college...Trying to compensate for bad system K-12? Cheating does matter when health professionals are pulling numbers out of their butts and putting them in the chart. Does happen and people do die because of it.

If all the students use it but deny it, then they’ll never be able to tell

This is the easiest thing to solve. Any written assignment just needs to accompanied by one or two in-person oral questions where the teacher can see the student isn't cheating, and just ask the student follow up questions related to the essay they apparently wrote, to see if they can explain the thinking behind what's in the essay. If they can't explain how they wrote it, it's not their essay. Instant expulsion. You'd only have to catch a few before the rest got scared.

I agree with everything you said apart from when you said "In my HUMBLE opinion ", no one who is humble would ever say that.

I had a few college professors that were like that. They were terrifyingly few in number. Most were willing to defend the hill of bad education to the bitter end.

Skynet incoming in.....

I knew it! I was saying this, and some people thought I was wrong. 🤦‍♀️🙄

Research tool. Plug in a bunch of subjects. Read the output, reach out for more info with this blueprint. Learn. Voila! Free college education from hime

I mean, surely it's a tool to be used as best as possible. People don't spend days searching libraries for books anymore, they just read the digital version on Google. This AI seemingly just goes 1 step further and reads the book for you.

Spot on Nick. As a post-secondary instructor, I experienced administration and some of the other instructors, directly or indirectly, condoning cheating.

no way people cheat in college......this is never going away. I'm glad this is happening, school is a waste of time unless it's STEM

In one of my computer science classes, we had a test where we were *expected* to use the internet to find the answers because the most valuable skill any software developer has is the ability to look up if someone else already figured out what you’re trying to do

At least this will be the last generation that has to put up with writing BS papers.

They do not teach kids HOW to think anymore :( , rather just what to think.

I'm still trying to come to terms with the irony that Nick Rekieta, BA, JD, says that college degrees are worthless.

You can even use it to create a bot that adheres to your writing style! You can literally train it to write how you write and not the generic model! This will put more emphasis on PRACTICAL skills now. If we were to bring a farmer back from 200 years ago, and show him how we plow fields now, as opposed to back then.....would they say we're cheating? Or would they be blown away by our use of technology and feel that his way of doing things in now irrelevant ?

If you work primarily behind a keyboard, your work days are numbered. Plan accordingly

I always learned more in my efforts to cheat than I did mindlessly parroting trivial details.

The fact that they cheated for a philosophy class is amazing. Also, I'd much rather hire someone who actually knew the subject matter or skill they were applying for rather than had the highest marks but knew absolutely nothing.

The teacher used an AI to detect the paper? But that's cheating!

Our reliance on technology is dumbing down our society. Many students can’t even write properly, do basic algebra, etc.

Most industrial settings I’ve worked in don’t care about the path only the outcome even at the cost of safety. With exception to days during audits and visitors from outside the plant. And often expectations can’t be achieved without sacrificing safety or quality due to management often times being hired from outside sources directly to management positions instead of promoting from within

Education and educators: “I Have Met the Enemy, and He Is Us”

I see a day when college’s recognize they no longer can effectively teach in a class room setting, and we revert to a more apprentice style way of gaining knowledge and experience. Perhaps AI is the catalyst!

I don't own a stove..but this admin can have a D-day like flotilla of my accurate assessment of this vegetable's corruption and failed government policies

Soft teachers make softer students.

I'm thinking of a modified scene from the movie Blazing Saddles where the Governor says: "We've gotta protect our phony baloney jobs!". Seems close to what the University business goal now.

for highlights from past streams can you add the date or link to original stream... so we can get an idea if this is something we've seem already?

It's like working in IT, the main thing is knowing what exactly to ask. Most questions have been answered and knowing how to use a Knowledge Base or search engine is a benefit in the operational world.

i love it - tear down the entire system!

They should have to give a town hall on the subject they do. They have to take questions on the subject to show they know what they are talking about.

Bring back apprenticeship programs. Much better quality education and makes you socialize with others in the field to build your professional network.

Wow! I just tried ChatGPT, asking it complicated technical questions relevant to my job it held up very well. I am amazed. I also asked some tough questions about things that affect us in the world. After seeing the responses, I understand what the professor was saying that they were written like a smart 12th grader. If a student directly copies and pastes the responses, human intuition can suspect the work of AI due to the peculiar style of writing.

Changes need to start early on in the entire education system. I teach computer science classes in a rural high school and the offerings for kids is horrid. Force them to take 4 years of science, 4 years of math, 4 years of English, 2 years of a foreign language....... all geared towards sending them to Traditional 4yr Colleges. At the same time, demeaning the value of trade schools or Dual Enrollment (getting college credit while in high school courses).

This is horrible because knowledge will be based on curated information from our overlords at Google, not the result of critical thought

Realizing that a component of your job could be related to automation should be a relief. But then again, I have a real job.

Dear Professors: When a predictive AI can complete your college course work, your course isn't worth taking. And if the student had told the professor 'How dare you!' he'd have never been found.

Wait. It's the philosophy professors who are flabbergasted?

This is great. I am currently getting a baccalaureate in business, however I don't value the degree, I'm starting my own business and the only reason I'm in school at all is because my company I'm working for is paying for it and I would like a promotion before leaving. Anything I want to truly learn, youtube is amazing, I see so many mechanical breakdowns/schematics/posted lectures of interesting professors.

If a mechanic can't fix a complicated part that's above their skill, then they don't get paid for it. Students do not cheat if they actually like the class/subject/teacher. If student don't engage with the class it is 100% teacher's fault. Your job is to teach and you can't effectively do that. Appealing to difficult student is part of teaching as a job. Just like how being able to fix complicated shit is part of a mechanic's job. Just like how being able to perform complicated surgery is part of being a surgeon. Why should teacher be given a free pass for failing to do their job?

That essay is basically a short thugnotes script

I don't really find chat GPT on that advanced it just seems pretty basic to me

well our education system was busted a long time ago so this was bound to happen🤔

Brilliant!!

I did all that maths work by hand in school just to be told to feed my numbers in Excel as Excel numbers are what my company uses.

THANK YOU FOR your words about the "academic inflation".

ChatGPT is the reason I got 100% on my last essay. Thanks, AI overlords! Saved me days of work.

Soon the calculator will be used in schools. Oh, wait!

Higher learning is a joke. In the real world you have unlimited access to text books & technology alike in order to seek out the information you are looking for yet people think they need to go into crippling debt to gain the same information that they could have obtained from they local library. Most careers, aside from the medical field, could easily see those licenses obtained via an apprenticeship. Hell, even the medical field has an apprenticeship of sorts by way of a Residency. Granted not everyone can do that kind of work, but that's why trade jobs have a baseline test performed before you are even considered for the apprenticeship. Then the bulk of your education comes from on the job training.

In my current job, less than 1% of the knowledge from my degree is useful to me, but I would not have gotten that job if my employer didn't see my degree paper. And with that 1% knowledge, I would have still learnt it anyway from the job experience.

And there will be no variance in professional quality between those who tortured themselves writing 12,000 pages of drivel vs those who had an AI do it for them in college. I'm a network engineer and could have done this job halfway through my sophomore year of high-school. Prior to this job, an 8th grade reading level was all I ever needed.

ChatGPT is going to replace Professors AND students.

I think high school and middle school teachers would care about this more than college professors. I have not met a professor that gives a damn in my college career

As a teacher myself, I often loathe the elitism of the ivory tower myself. That being said, I imagine this will also be obnoxious on a High School level for a whole other reason: I'm attempting to impart knowledge to students who are already switching their brains off regularly to social media and other things. Attention span and general knowledge and wisdom of how the world works are all already dropping off. Imagine what an AI might do to their functionality as writers when, in a class like mine, they actually have to write in person on pen and paper? On one hand, good on you guys for thinking outside the box and undermining the scam that is the university system. On the other, I am concerned about what this might do on the High School level, where some things that are taught actually do still have a purpose.

If I was a college I'd be far more concerned people are catching on to the fact 90% of the courses they offer are useless wastes of money.

I would cheat if I had to write about Hume.

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