60% support socialism 70% don't want to pay higher taxes Total disconnect
@v44n75 жыл бұрын
In Argentina we are rule by socialism and here socialism people always say "We want to the government to give to the people" but in the next statement "we want the government to low the inflation" by the way in Argentina we have 45% inflation annually, because the government doesn't have enough money to pay the socialist politics .
@srisankethu89135 жыл бұрын
@@v44n7 45% inflation? 😲 Only this year right. Less see what happens next year 👌. It's a cycle actually, rich-poor divide increases, socialist and communist come to power, destroy the rich, increase deficits, lose power due to dissatisfaction, new government are pro business, again rich-poor divide increases 🤥
@rakoveith94435 жыл бұрын
@@srisankethu8913 Rich poor divide increase is a myth created by socialist philosopher/advocate. There are less poor people in the US and Europe in the last 100years than any socialist nation. It is true the rich get Richer in capitalist world but same is also true in socialist world. The difference is in capitalist the rich/elites get Richer through business(can be unfair at times) whereas in socialist the rich/elites get Richer by stealing public money.
@horseplop95 жыл бұрын
@@v44n7 Live Free or Die USA Hey Man It Obviously Never Happened. The Left. Has Been Exposed As Having a Coup Against Our President.. Its Disgusting and Should Be Forever remembered as 80 Million Dollars and 2 Years Of Trying to turn the People of the Nation who elected him, against him. Shame on you Democrats and half the Republicans. This Is the Globalism
@Xylon666Darkstar5 жыл бұрын
Because humans are inherently lazy. Hence, all these young generation people taking the easy way out/thinking liberally (not at all more like) and focusing more on FEELS than logic, and wanting their welfare.
@MylesC12344 жыл бұрын
They believe in capitalism and they don't even know it.
@CaesarCassius4 жыл бұрын
Conservatrons like the con man in this video misunderstands socialism. Wealth is quantity, mathematically, it can be spread around evenly, although the mega-rich won't be so rich any more. Grades are a rating of quality, mathematically everyone can get 4.0, without diminishing each other. a more accurate analogy would be: Capitalism means the people who worked the hardest get, sweating in factories, 40 hours a week, get a grade of 1.0, while the people who work the least hardest, lounging in air-conditioned offices, get 4.0. It's grossly unfair conservative con-games don't fool intelligent people.
@ravishjoshi92624 жыл бұрын
@@CaesarCassius Grades are only a metric of quality if everyone studies for the same number of hours per semester. However, we know this not to be true as people that recognise that they are average, put in more time to bridge the gap between their more gifted peers and themselves. Therefore, grades are a combined metric of intellect and effort. Same with money. The amount you earn is not just based on time you spent working. It a combined metric of time spent, ability to deliver output and difficulty of replacing you. So the time spent can be equated with time spent in both cases and intellect can be equated with ability to deliver output. As far as difficulty to replace is concerned, it is also a combined metric of your grades, experience (which again, is a measure of effort) and selection of a stream which is fairly rarely selected by individuals. So when it comes down to it, earning money and earning grades is exactly the same from a quantitative and qualitative perspective and earning money has an additional factor which in by itself is a combined metric of effort, foresight and ability to deliver output. So no, if you are all for redistribution of wealth you must also be all for redistribution of wealth. Can't have it both ways. It doesn't really matter though. If you do not support redistribution of grades, you will make it through college with all your grades intact and then have to share your wealth with the rest of us anyway. So sharing or not sharing of grades really doesn't matter if you are socialist.
@CaesarCassius4 жыл бұрын
That's fine, just give everyone a grade of 1.0 no matter what result, and if undeserved, you still won't get far in reality. But it's the same with money, once the wealthy corrupt elites are stripped of their capital with it redistributed,, only the truly deserving will get ahead after that and the currently privileged will be revealed for who they are. To quote philospher Jai-Paul Sutra: "Areh yaaaarrrr! Toom kiya kasundi ha??" Source(s): Sholay Hero Number 1 More Than Two and Less Than Four Idiots (MTTALTFI) Yes Boss Khon Khan Kheh Khana Khatta (KKKKK) Ghabbar Singh I Am A Disco Dancer (IAADD) Sachin
@CasiodorusRex4 жыл бұрын
Wait until they get jobs and Uncle Sam pays a visit.
@unknownchannel31414 жыл бұрын
@@CaesarCassius 😂 look at their education. Wealth = value. There's a few exceptions, like millionaire parents & becoming a Columbian drug lord.
@Aro93132 жыл бұрын
The last guy nailed it. We must all push for equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome.
@whatthej7 ай бұрын
Same GPAs is equality of opportunity when entering the workforce
@WRXBase7 ай бұрын
DEI is the antithesis and yet ...
@whatthej7 ай бұрын
@@WRXBase We will be successful in maintaining status quo!
@allwhatilove9147 ай бұрын
There will be no equality of opportunity neither. Some has to work two jobs while doing school, some can only study, some has difficulty with maths, or DDHD, or the father died during school years, or had a disease, or had too many siblings to help with, some live besides the school, some live 100 miles away… and so on. Each one of them will have an excuse to why they didn’t succeed like the ones on the top. It’s never their responsibility.
@gregorykavivya8756 ай бұрын
Equality of opportunity is a socialist goal. Children born into households with differential emphases on study, homework completion, assistance with assignments, discipline and monetary and time investment will not have equal opportunities in life. To achieve that, you'd have to have a single authority raise all the kids in a uniform and equal way. Equality of opportunity therefore requires a very totalitarian version of communism
@puzzLEGO2 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how privileged rich people support socialism
@tennysee14392 жыл бұрын
ikr, like how do you think you got there?
@jsonjsoff2 жыл бұрын
They don't. They support a ubi system with a permanent underclass. Their "socialism" is about ending the system that allowed them to achieve so that they don't have to compete.
@MisterVercetti2 жыл бұрын
Usually, they fall into one of two categories: 1. Truly ignorant sheep who have no idea how society or economics work. 2. Wolves in sheep's clothing who just want the other wolves eliminated so they have more for themselves.
@mpr7462 жыл бұрын
Their parents are rich, not the student
@pablobear42412 жыл бұрын
You do realize socialism if we follow it to its conclusion, it’s a more industrious hardworking society. Most people have no right to being a socialist, but, the ones who truly understand it know that it will be a more challenging, yet more fair society. If you’re privileged and rich, if you support it you generally realize it’s to help people who don’t have the same advantages as you (advantages that weren’t earned through any merit, just spawn point RNG) An example is colleges/education, if everyone has the opportunity to go, and are given you know a basic quality of life guaranteed, it would increase the pool of students hence making admissions more competitive, whilst getting rid of racist policies like affirmative action. The thing is, socialism is a word that has lost it’s meaning due to a combination of McCarthyism, CIA special influence campaign on culture/education, and just poor education/a society where critical thinking isn’t taught formally in any sort of capacity. Even discrete math classes and so on don’t teach you much, it’s moreso an Anglo form of logic/reasoning, that is different from just general common sense that people like Socrates would use.
@meneer82294 жыл бұрын
I live in Europe. Healthcare is NOT free, we are just higher taxed.
@angelbarajas91804 жыл бұрын
Ya but these kids are too dumb to realize that
@ST-dd6ny4 жыл бұрын
Thank you @Meneer Stolk. People are just too blind to realize that, even after they say they wouldn't help other people with their hard-earned money, but they're already forced to do so. I lived in Brazil (mostly socialist) and I agree with you 100%. Ridiculously high taxes and my mom had to wait 8 years to get a call about a hip replacement surgery through the socialist health care system. My dad has a Hernia from another surgery through the same system, and my grandmother died after an unsuccessful knee replacement surgery through the same system. They sued the government, but obviously couldn't fight the government and lost.
@bujumburamutt31594 жыл бұрын
@@angelbarajas9180 i pay the same rate of tax here as i would in a lot of us states But i have free healthcare, cheap education and subsidized public transport.
@meneer82294 жыл бұрын
S T how long did you live in Brazil?
@meneer82294 жыл бұрын
Bujumbura mutt It’s taxed so it’s not free. We just spend the tax money a little bit more efficient. healthcare is cheaper in the Netherlands because they allow price competition between insurers, even though it is mandatory. So while some European countries are higher taxed for ‘free’ insurance, we still have to pay it directly. Nothing wrong with that we just need to admit that free lunch doesn’t exist.
@glenncouni60244 жыл бұрын
"I don't want to sacrifice what -I- worked really hard for!" Surprise, you're a capitalist!
@taragnor4 жыл бұрын
No, if you want to keep what you worked for, you're a socialist. In capitalism, the majority of your grades would go to the class president and the average student would keep a small fraction of their own work, while the people at the top benefited most. Even in a lowly job like working at McDonalds. Take a look at how much you'd be making if you purchased the ingredients yourself and got paid per burger you sold. It'd be a hell of a lot more than minimum wage. The illusion that you're keeping your work in capitalism is a total lie.
@taragnor4 жыл бұрын
@david perkins : You're preaching like capitalism is a meritocracy, and it isn't. You can't have it both ways. You can't say "capitalism is great because you keep the benefits of your work." A salary isn't keeping the benefits of your work, it's a participation trophy. You get it just by showing up. And like you said yourself, it doesn't matter how awful your work is, you still get paid. The equivalent in college would be "You negotiated beforehand to get a C grade just for sitting in your seat and doing the assignments, you can't get any higher for the year. " And guess what, students would HATE that too. People have this overly glorified view of capitalism, because everyone envisions themselves the business owner and not the exploited worker.
@anniec814 жыл бұрын
@@taragnor what is stopping any person from buying the ingredients to make & sell the burger?
@solacolubrum30814 жыл бұрын
@@taragnor move to Venezuela and see how great it is man
@TexasIronLegend4 жыл бұрын
taragnor if you purchase the ingredients yourself then you are running a business which takes a lot more skill than flipping burgers on a stove. Also, the business owner PURCHASES ingredients which means that he has expenses, whereas the minimum wage worker doesn’t have to buy anything for the business. So of course you’ll make more than minimum wage as the business owner due to the facts that it requires more skill and you have to spend money out of your own pocket in order to pay your workers and buy all the necessary supplies.
@miccassady94502 жыл бұрын
It's unbelievable how when people's bad ideas are exposed, they still maintain their position.
@SoccerSounder2 жыл бұрын
they're using a strawman to attack it? on the surface sure it's sharing something you work for, but like the way gpa's work is to set you apart from others in the skill of your field supposedly, where-as the use of money is to live/live comfortable. is it not inherently immoral to say others should live a unhealthy lifestyle just cause they "don't work hard enough"? that their families should as well? if it's not immoral, should we not allow poor people to have kids, should we force them to work for their food and home as well, or should we provide for them? the first two i hope you can see if obviously immoral, and agree with me on that at the least, if the third that's socialist to some degree, and if none then what do you suggest instead? on the otherhand it's not immoral to say someone is better at what they do than someone else, in my opinion at least. it may lead to better jobs, and could lead to those with a lower gpa failing, and it could easily be due to outside forces such as illness that's not something they can control. it could in theory sometimes lead to those who's gpa's you're not helping be raised, to not be able to find a livable job as well, however i don't think that's the issue with it, i think it's the other system, the one which it's being compared to that's the issue
@cara-seyun2 жыл бұрын
Because it’s seen as shameful to change your beliefs now. People don’t want to think they have been ‘wasting’ all the time they spent believing something. It takes a lot of honor and courage to admit you were wrong, and neither seem to be very common.
@theboombody2 жыл бұрын
@@SoccerSounder The biggest problem with money is we need MORE than what is "comfortable" to start and maintain a business. And we simply need businesses to maintain our current society. IBM needs an ASTOUNDING amount of capital to function properly, whereas a healthy guy in his 30's who willingly sits on his couch all day needs very little, and deserves even less than what he needs. Should we provide him with more than he deserves? Maybe, at least if we have the means. But we still need to feed companies like IBM a whole heck of a lot if we don't want them to die.
@bira32322 жыл бұрын
@@SoccerSounder Your own argument can be used against you if you can't share something as meaningless as GPA, why would you share your hard earned money. When you need it and use it to live and support your family. Socialism will never work. Setting yourself apart from others which the GPA system seeks to accomplish is a completely capitalistic driven idea.
@SoccerSounder2 жыл бұрын
@@bira3232 no it can't, my argument is that gpa is used to show your skill level, that is not at all the point of money. meaning, everyone having the same gpa would defeat the purpose, meaning it will be replaced by something else. where as money, if everyone has an equal level, or reduced extremes of differences wouldn't cause the same issues at all? as for your point of "Setting yourself apart from others which the GPA system seeks to accomplish is a completely capitalistic driven idea.". that seems like saying comp mode in overwatch is based on capitalistic ideas too, like you could argue it, i don't see the point however socialism may never work at a full scale, but you can still use some elements of it, such as free health care (yes i know it's not literally free, and it's payed for by taxes, i am just using the term "free" for it), or using taxes to pay for roads, or for schools (of any education level). i don't know any system that you can use solely without having huge issues, capitalism leads to monopolies, communism leads to corruption, and socialism can lead to those who are the majority not understanding the needs of others, and therefore not properly providing or taking for/from them.
@gauravnambiar25092 жыл бұрын
There was a professor in India who had done that and redistributed grades when he sensed that everyone in this class where socialists. Changed their minds
@GoDewy4 жыл бұрын
“Ive lost a lot of sleep to get my grades” “I worked hard for my grades.” “I made a lot of sacrifices for my grades.” Have you ever owned a business?
@raff51844 жыл бұрын
Or simply just worked...
@SousChef774 жыл бұрын
Oh Drew....you said it bud. If you have never owned a business, you have NO idea how hard it is.
@bob2000and104 жыл бұрын
Oh cool all that hard work opening a small business only to have it close down because Home Depot moved into town and hires immigrants for slave wages. You have to have brain damage to cuck for fortune 500s over small businesses owned by working class Americans.
@thaboomer534 жыл бұрын
socialism? now you can give away some of your GPA to those who didn't work as hard as you, but want to share (translation--steal) some of your hard work.
@-Wreckanize-4 жыл бұрын
And include “risk” to that. Business owners assume a lot of risk.
@meganblack43875 жыл бұрын
These people "I study for my grade it's mine. Oh you work for your money you have to share".
@jesusgonzalez845 жыл бұрын
But people who play the stock market "only push buttons on their computer that's not really working", lmao.
@zakofrx5 жыл бұрын
@@jesusgonzalez84 they have no idea about the education and skill involved let alone the risk of loosing large amounts of cash. If a stock market millionaire lost a large sum then would they be willing to give their money to the former millionaire, I don't think so.
@AsG_4_5 жыл бұрын
Can't believe none of them thought about how theirs a cap on GPA and not income
@retiredmanager10985 жыл бұрын
Jesus Gonzalez investing and choosing stocks is very challenging and can be very rewarding. They don’t appear to have the basic concept of how easy it is to lose money in the stock market, the time it takes to research and the risks of selling too soon or holding too long. The stock market is fear and greed. Those students just want the profits from the good companies, they don’t see how many companies fail due to lack of innovation, not hiring the right people, changes in the law...
@SaneAsylum5 жыл бұрын
@@zakofrx Apparently neither do you. Most brokers are pawns for wealth redistribution schemes. The real players are right next door with fiber optics and super fast computers trading a billion circles around you each second. Not to mention the many many insiders trading their/their associates way through their terms in office. Coming in broke going out rich. The real reason people are willing to pay millions to get elected (pay to play). The whole market is a game designed to control other people's money. All trust therein is misplaced. But the shorter response would be professional gamblers work really "hard" too...
@jesusthroughmary2 жыл бұрын
"Most rich people didn't actually earn their wealth." People don't earn their intelligence either, naturally intelligent people have a built-in head start in life, and that's not fair either.
@Gabovo2 жыл бұрын
Its seems like you arent one of the naturally inteligent ones seeing how retarded this example is. Unlike being born a billionare tou arent destined to having a good GPA if you are smart since it neasures how much you study and are sucesfull unlike money which is gained by being as big a scumbag as possible, and yeah there are the “self made” billionares like steve jobs was i dont think he wouldve had so much money if it wasnt for all those chilean quasi-slave miners that got him all of that copper,gold and assorted rare metals he needed for his phones
@cara-seyun2 жыл бұрын
And the majority of millionaires (over 75%) received nothing (or close to nothing) in inheritance
@Gabovo2 жыл бұрын
@@cara-seyun ok? Just because you got your wealth via scamming chinese favtory workers and tax fraud doesnt mean its any better than just inheriting it
@alertpenguin84032 жыл бұрын
I also love how Naïve his statement on stock market trading is …”it’s just pushing a button on a computer”… as if calculating, estimating, evaluating, and closely watching stock prices is anything easy and is in fact a full on career.
@explorenaked5 ай бұрын
@@alertpenguin8403 What he was expressing is jealousy. When you complain that someone has more than you, it's simple jealousy.
@JohnSmith-pn1vv2 жыл бұрын
Watching these guys advocate for socialism, only to perfectly illustrate how unfair it is a sentence later. 👏👏✊🏿🙈
@salvadorvizcarra7692 жыл бұрын
That is not Socialism. Taking your money to give it to someone else is not Socialism. Socialism has nothing to do with it. I recommend you watch the Michael Moore Documentaries.
@JohnSmith-pn1vv2 жыл бұрын
@@salvadorvizcarra769 Michael Moore lol, the biden endorser right? I'm tired of 70 iq retahds telling me I have to watch this or that. Why don't you tell me what socialism is yourself? Wealth redistribution isn't socialism? Fk outta here jose
@peenoice51762 жыл бұрын
@@salvadorvizcarra769 well it kinda does.
@fatpenguin00892 жыл бұрын
@@peenoice5176 no, it doesnt
@idkman51452 жыл бұрын
@@fatpenguin0089 it dosent in theory but if you will shift from capitalism to socialism it will mean this exact thing
@Tardisius5 жыл бұрын
A Socialist will always say: "Yes, take from the rich just don't take it from ME" =))
@blurglide5 жыл бұрын
I have another idea to convince them: "We in the west are in the global 1%. Would you support globalist socialism until everyone has the same income?". That might be a way to plant a seed of nationalism
@AWW84725 жыл бұрын
Every "socialist" in the US probably makes more money than you or I put together but has never and likely will never give money to a charity that helps people.
@TOAOM1235 жыл бұрын
These people not realizing even at the us poverty line they earn more than 90% of the world so they would be "the rich"
@Baconator13685 жыл бұрын
@@blurglide Wealth redistribution is not what socialism is. You have been fooled by corporate media.
@OfficialFedHater5 жыл бұрын
@@Baconator1368 Taxation is wealth distribution through a third party, the government. Socialism can not exist without taxation.
@marioramos67904 жыл бұрын
"That's different because I'm studying all day for my grade" Yeah And I'm working all day for my money
@trevor_corey80373 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more, And having to be creative and resourceful and push the boundaries and limits. Totally different than the average person who clocks in and out with no extra work outside of their “job” . Minimum wage is for average C students. You gotta try hard in this world. Period
@philsomething83133 жыл бұрын
MANY people work all day for their money - perhaps anyone willing to work > 16 hours a day can be a millionaire within 5 years hmm
@xavierozaraga3913 жыл бұрын
@@philsomething8313 That's right but they won't get it if they don't do any other job, don't ask for a raise, and if they refuse to suppress lifestyle inflation. Getting alot of money and getting financially stable is different. It requires discipline and not just having a high paying job. It requires planning ahead and creating a budget plan.
@ericz63 жыл бұрын
Yooo I was just abt to write the same thing but saw urs and didn't
@davidsikatse3 жыл бұрын
@@xavierozaraga391 I don't get how this simple thing can be so hard to grasp by people on the other side.
@indigopapi86672 жыл бұрын
“You’re basically profiting off of my hard work FOR you, so who’s really the bad guy here?” Thank you.
@Soriddo_Suneku2 жыл бұрын
People sound so stupid when they get caught but they still try to keep with their stance.
@TheCanon664 жыл бұрын
"Yes, rich people should give us their stuff." "You can't have my GPA, I worked for it... =( "
@DesertStateNevada4 жыл бұрын
noname - They dont just wanna take from rich people, they wanna take from everybody. Hope you realize that.
@N12Gautam4 жыл бұрын
DesertStateInEu yeah it’s not thier money tho, they aren’t willing to give thier own money but have the audacity to demand rich people pay for everything. we are a capitalist country not socialists, you can go to Venezuela if you want socialism
@mrjones42494 жыл бұрын
In addition to being ignorant of history these students are too lazy to read anything that's not on their social network.
@erikthomas92284 жыл бұрын
@@mrjones4249 I know !!!! It's disgusting
@rbrotherton02674 жыл бұрын
DesertStateInEu it’s dumb
@JustSayRance5 жыл бұрын
Supporting socialism as long as they're the ones profiting from it. Classic.
@vernacote22195 жыл бұрын
They need to watch the finland experiment. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b9SAhLBmmdW0fZs.html
@ktajax5 жыл бұрын
Exactly! If you can afford to go to college today, I consider you rich! There are those out there that can't afford to go. Care if socialist gov takes your monies to help others go to college?
@ktajax5 жыл бұрын
Verna Cote That vid is a waste of time. Just talks to people about their feelings and has no conclusion if experiment worked.
@danimal0975215 жыл бұрын
@@ktajax Waste of time? It proved a very simple point. These kids supported socialism....until it meant taking from them. That IS the point.
@ktajax5 жыл бұрын
danimal097521 I was talking about Verna Cote's linked video in regards to an experiment in Finlnd. Please concentrate on what's being stated before lashing out.
@-loading-_error_not_found36232 жыл бұрын
I tend to stay out of arguments like this, but I honestly believe there's inherently a flaw in the question you're asking. I'm a student at the moment, one with a 4.00 that I've held steady for two years now, I work my ass off to keep it that way and would be immensely frustrated to be forced to "share" it with students with lesser grades. However there's a couple of things in my mind that separates what you're calling 'grade disparity' from wealth disparity; 1. There's a cap on how high my GPA can get. I as a student cannot end up with say,,, a 7.5 GPA, there's nothing I can do to bump it up that high. The school stops caring after A+, even if I accumulate 120% in a course (something I've actually done before using cart loads of extra credit) that 20% doesn't do anything to my grade, and if there had been a way for me to send that 20% to the students in my class who needed a grade boost I would have done it in a heart beat. Why? Because I don't need that 20% when I've already got my A. Now when you look at wealth there is absolutely no cap to just how wealthy you can be, and someone of our favorite entrepreneurs the ones we Laud for having built themselves from the ground up, (Musk, Bezos, ect) have so much accumulated wealth they could never possibly spend it all in their lifetime even if they quit working tomorrow. When myself and many others are talking about helping out people at the bottom, to relate it to grades again, we're not asking to bring people with 100% in a class down to an 80, we're asking to use the excess 20 of someone earning 120%. 2. Generational Grades are not a thing, if my father went to college and got straight As, I don't get to start out with all the points he accumulated during his time at college, same if he pulled straight Fs, it's a clean slate no matter what. The same cannot be said for wealth, some people are lucky enough to have wonderful supportive families that assist them in their lives when they stumble, they offer monetary support during college, or make funds for first born grandchildren. Others are born into circumstance where they are the ones having to assist their families even when they are not in a stable financial position themselves, circumstance is a throw if the dice that we have to acknowledge when it comes to wealth disparity. 3. If you get an F in a course, youre not going to die. I know this argument probably seems silly but hear me out. If I fail a class, I don't get credit, I'll likely have to retake the course if it's a general studies class, or if I'm extra lucky it's an elective and I've learned something new about my aptitudes in a certain area. This will be stressful for me and may affect my mental health, but overall I will survive and get through it. If I go bankrupt I have fucked myself and *hard*. It's not impossible to come back from this position especially if you're lucky enough to have the family support touched on in my second point, but if not? You're looking at bloated homelessness programs, food insecurity, lack of access to medical care, heightened risk of violent crime and any number of other factors that on their own and especially in combination could genuinely get you killed. In conclusion, your argument is fundamentally flawed, these students are reluctant to "share" their GPA because for all of them, this isn't a resource that they can have "extra" of, for them giving to someone else means going without for themselves. This is not the case with the sort of socialism the majority of rational individuals advocate for, most of us, are asking for the excess wealth that these billionaires are never even going to touch let alone go without over. Next, none of these kids inherited good or bad grades from their parents what they have is based off of the quality of work that they have turned in as individuals. This again is not the case with money, which can be inherited from prior generations just like debt can. And lastly a bad grade isn't going to kill you, it just isn't. So for those of us working hard to maintain a GPA, we are reluctant to offer our limited resources to those who can, at the end of the day retake the course. Unlike with real life and real money where there is no re-do.
@MrJijack2 жыл бұрын
This is so well said, I was hoping for a comment like this. Makes me wonder what you would say to those who think wealth builds more wealth (like how millionaires build companies that create job opportunities for others, or how a millionaire buying a yacht/ mansion spreads wealth to those who work for yachts or home construction). Those who say this think millionaires should not be barred from this through heavy taxation.
@cara-seyun2 жыл бұрын
@@MrJijack that is a good point, and one that seems ignored by people on both sides of the issue. The economy is not a zero-sum game, it’s possible to build yourself up without tearing down others.
@moonman14882 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your thoughtful response and would like to point out some of my thoughts on it. Your first major point was saying the idea isn't to bring someone with a 100% down to 80%, but rather take the excess 20% from someone with a 120% since they get no benefit from the extra 20% anyway. Something you say you have personally done through extra credit. Knowing that the extra 20% would bring you no value, you worked for it anyway. At the end of the day you are still working harder than you need to to provide benefits for someone else who is not working as hard as they should be. You are still losing even though your GPA doesn't change and their GPA is improving at your expense. Naturally, those who currently go above and beyond will stop overachieving once they realize they are doing extra work so someone else can slack off, and then what? Then we are left taking away from people who only have a 100% and then your GPA is affected. My second point is to your argument about how there is no generational GPA, but there is generational wealth. This much is true, but I don't think the amount of people who currently have massive unspendable-in-a-single-lifetime level inheritances is as large as some people may make it out to be. A drop in the bucket relative to the population and likely taxing them more wouldn't do much in the big picture. I don't have numbers on this, it's an opinion as much as yours is I guess. Lastly you related failing a class to bankruptcy and how you would likely overcome an "F" but overcoming bankruptcy could screw you over, potentially to the point of no return, at least not without good fortune on your side. To this, I contend a few ideas. First, bankruptcy isn't really the life sentence it might seem. Many times you can file for bankruptcy and still keep your house and your car. It is entirely possible to recover from bankruptcy with several years of diligent work and responsible financial habits, in the same way you can recover from a failing grade by working diligently and exercising responsible study habits. Additionally, bankruptcy isn't typically an overnight "whoops I got drunk last night and spent more on the credit card than I should have" sort of issue. Most people who end up in bankruptcy have a long history of poor financial habits and bad decisions. You don't have a credit score of 850 one day and file for bankruptcy the next. There is a transition with plenty of red flags along the way. Plenty of chances to turn it around. Just like failing a class. If you are typically a straight A student, you don't just suddenly fail one day. It's a process. You fail one assignment, then another, then another with opportunity to fix your study habits along the way. If you neglect to study more or just don't care to fix it, why would those who are getting an A be responsible for boosting your failure? Even if they had 120%? If someone is rich and charitably inclined, that's great. They can give away as much money as they want. If not, that's their decision to make, not anyone else's. I'm not trying to defend billionaires either, although I'm sure it's a problem we would all gladly accept if we had the chance. But the idea that taxing the ultra-wealthy more to redistribute it to those of lesser means seems like a good idea until it is your money being taken. Something I thought this video did a fair job of pointing out.
@bro-ss2eu2 жыл бұрын
The most important flaw in his argument is that. We all start with the same gpa. It’s not the case for money.
@user-fy2mc5wx6m5 ай бұрын
It's simple it's there money keep your hands off it they didn't make for dirt bag on the corner with a sign that's able to work
@beans90192 жыл бұрын
I respect this guy for not shaming them and helping them understand the concepts instead of some people that turn it into a public roast
@robertmiller64444 жыл бұрын
"I wouldn't sacrifice the stuff I worked hard for, but I'm all for other people sacrificing stuff they worked hard for."
@Nik-km2qy4 жыл бұрын
What about stuff your parents and grandparents worked hard for ?
@ac-jn1iq4 жыл бұрын
These people are stupid if they don’t realize these things they are voting for will come back to them and effect them also when they are out of school and working hard at a job
@emac4dh3954 жыл бұрын
They want to be a socialist until it’s time for them to give away. Lol.
@r.alexander90754 жыл бұрын
@@Nik-km2qy exactly... what kind of stupid argument was that... "well alot of people inherit money..." oh yeah dude well then give me yo mamas money
@victorvinegar71164 жыл бұрын
You all know America has socialist inspired programs right? All of which benefit you in your everyday lives? Now that doesnt mean socialism is the end-all-be-all. Every system has its flaws. Socialism is ripe with corruption. In the same vein capitalism can be too, albeit less up front. Perfect example of Capitalism being corrupt is the pharmaceutical industry. Why are life saving drugs so expensive in America when the same drugs are way less cheaper in other countries? Insulin being a perfect example. Finding a good mix of the two and just being a decent human goes a long way.
@blackdragons80115 жыл бұрын
*_WE WANT COMMUNISM_* ok. Give me your money. *_NEVERMIND_*
@TheGeekMonster5 жыл бұрын
Precisely. They want these systems *as long as* it means they'll get free stuff. Never mind as soon as they realize they have to *give up* stuff.
@mi-micanterbury22755 жыл бұрын
Black Dragons 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👏🏽👏🏽
@DonJuanDM5 жыл бұрын
That's what you get when you let stupid people go to college. They would have learnt a lot more 'common sense' if they start working in the society at earlier age.
@briansiegel69455 жыл бұрын
I agree that all those students in the video were idiots, but their inability to adequately respond to his equivocation between money and GPA doesn’t make the relationship true. The goal of capitalism is to maximize individual contribution to the economy, through productivity, profits, investments, etc. The associated goal of a GPA then is to maximize your contribution to the academic “economy”, through hard work, intellectual deliberation, etc. The main difference between money and GPA is that money is a tool that allows for exchange vital for economic growth. But if I give a portion of a higher GPA to a lower GPA, that individual who received the lower GPA doesn’t get a tool to become more intelligent, more able to participate in classes, more involved on campus. They do not gain access to skills necessary to improve their academic “economy”, they just have a number. Money, on the other hand, when redistributed is vital to creating growth. Poor individuals often can’t get a quality education for themselves or their children since they are working long hours for little money. They spend it on necessities and reduce qualities, like ok food, a not great living situation, public transportation, a poor education. However, with redistribution (not literally giving people money but investing in policies that encourage good education, occupational, and economic decision making for example), those individuals now have greater access to spend money and invest in themselves. They can work less hours since they now have economic incentives to get an education and utilize these redistributive policies. With a better education for themselves and their kids, they can go off to be greater and more productive members of the economy, and get more money, and contribute economically as both a worker and a consumer. This money is then spent on products that help the individuals who are rich owners of these companies. The money they invest in poorer individuals doesn’t only contribute to economic growth overall, but returns into the pockets of those who gave it away initially. This is the growth capitalists desire and fail to achieve. Instead, we have an unimaginably high disparity between the rich and the poor. Also, hate to break it to you, we are NOT a capitalistic economy in America. We are a MIXED economy, that combines both ideological components of capitalism and socialism. So if you support the American economic system, you are a socialist just like the students in that video lmao.
@susanschoover15775 жыл бұрын
Brian you’re a moron. You’re suffering from the dunning Krueger effect for sure. Supporting the US’s FREE MARKET economy is in no way supporting socialism. Spending on public goods doesn’t equate socialism. That’s just ludicrous. And redistribution DOESNT work. You’re too idealistic, you can’t just teach people out of poverty. And the government can’t be the ones teaching people how to spend money or be financially successful
@stacyliddell50382 жыл бұрын
Socialism for thee but not for me. Classic. Typical failure of the socialist model. Everyone ends up working to the lowest common denominator.
@restro30582 жыл бұрын
“That’s like, completely different. I’m studying all day for my grades.” Yeah and people work all day just for the government to take their taxes and put them into welfare
@jamespatrick15483 жыл бұрын
When it was something of THEIRS, they ALL instantly became free market capitalists. Love it.
@driftalaska61293 жыл бұрын
Perfectly said!
@grimmlight45413 жыл бұрын
That is the epitome of socialism and communism. Sounds great but it’s a disaster. They all want equality but don’t want their stuff taken. Just uneducated and ignorant fools.
@leonardbrown94653 жыл бұрын
Orrrrrre they were just asked the question in a weird way so they were forced into that mindset. Imagine if you were told that by giving away some of your GPA, it would remain largely unaffected and you would still be top of your class regardless of whether you gave up some of it or not. Then they would switch right back to socialists. The question was framed weird to prove a point. GPA and Salaries are not comparable anyway
@reishlion43943 жыл бұрын
@@leonardbrown9465 you have a point there. But sadly it works the same way with money. They won't take from you to give to others but still you will keep the same. Hmm hmmm don't wanna sound bad but if they do it like that, that country will have a huge inflation problem. And btw if you are working your ass to achieve anything in your life you wouldn't like others to take part of it from you to give it to to any1 who have not put the same input as you in.
@leonardbrown94653 жыл бұрын
@@reishlion4394 I highly disagree. You could argue that people that are less fortunate work 10x harder than somebody with “billions.” If I had enough money to where I physically couldn’t spend it all in one lifetime, I would be happy to pay taxes to help those who are less fortunate than me. Selfishness and Greed is the only reason someone wouldn’t want to
@lais_-hb3ug5 жыл бұрын
Everyone is socialist until they are stealing your money instead of others money 😂😂😂
@ZAP01615 жыл бұрын
Vegan: I'll give up animal products Amish: I'll give up technology Socialist: ...
@AndrewDeFaria4 жыл бұрын
Speak for yourself. I was never a socialist.
@peposo74 жыл бұрын
People who are not on the top appreciate the idea of socialism...until they experienced it. Some say its part of growing up; but C'mon!!! How many times the wheel has to be re-invented?!
@AndrewDeFaria4 жыл бұрын
@@peposo7 It's not those people "appreciate the idea of socialism" it's that they are looking to get something for nothing by confiscation of other people's resources by using their Uncle Sam to do the dirty work. What they fail to realize is that once you give old Uncle Sam that much power he no longer cares about talking or listening to them anymore.
@drmachinewerke14 жыл бұрын
Socialism means I do not have to work to have what you have. Sounds great. Until you are actually paying others to do nothing.
@justanotherguy28242 жыл бұрын
As a European I pay twice as much taxes as I would in the US - and I love it. I experience the advantages of social welfare (anybody who calls social welfare "socialism" has no idea what socialism is) in my daily life and would never want to live in a system like in the US: - I do not need to worry very much about financing my children´s education. They just get it, any school and any university is almost for free. (Of course I still pay housing and food etc.) - I do not need to worry about healthcare for me and my family. We just have it. When my kid breaks a leg, we go to hospital, when I need an ambulance I call it, when somebody suffers a chronical disease he is taken care of, all life long. - In total the US healthcare system costs almost twice as much per citizen, I guess because a lot of private companies make profit from it, somebody has to pay that in the end. Despite being much cheaper our "socialist" healthcare seems to be more effective, everybody has an insurance, child mortality is 50% lower, and life expectancy is 4 years higher than in the US. - I hardly see any homeless people in my country. - Crime rates are much lower than in the US, and part of the reason certainly is more equality, less people struggling for survival, better average education. In the US the homicide rate is 5 times higher than in European countries. There is not a single "no-go-area" anywhere, not even in poorer neighborhoods, my wife and my daughters can walk around safely anywhere in the city in the middle of the night. - I took a payed parental leave of 12months, my wife even for 2 years. etc. etc. Our welfare system is far from perfect. It is not the paradise. Many details could be better. But exchange it for a system like in the US? No, never, absolutely never.
@concernedcommenter82582 жыл бұрын
Yea, but you also pay twice as much taxes. Its not a debate of what taxes could do, it’s a debate of what they will do and if thats worth it. It differs from person to person.
@vince-pm1zf2 жыл бұрын
the last guy made a good point...we should strive for more equal oppurtunities as opposed to outcomes.
@khatdubell4 жыл бұрын
"They dont earn it, they're pressing buttons on a computer " Then why dont you press those same buttons, if it's so easy.
@jellymitch62124 жыл бұрын
The best part is that they want to give the money to other people who do even less.
@eternalreign23134 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the money still has to come from somewhere, from someone lol. The stock market doesn't magically create money from thin air, it just moves existing money around that people already made.
@LanceRozenfeld4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@elismith40404 жыл бұрын
Just like you didn't EARN the money you would receive from a socialist structure. Keep that same energy, man, I don't want no double standard.
@elismith40404 жыл бұрын
I've put thousands of hours in to understand the market and be profitable in it. If you told me that I didn't earn my returns, and just clicked buttons.... then I want to see you do the same thing. I put work in, and you're not just gonna steal it in the name of equality. Wait til you sitting on some money and someone wants to take it with your logic. Socialism only sounds great when you have nothing to lose from it. Just because you get a majority vote that stealing is okay, it doesn't make stealing okay.
@wesley4924 жыл бұрын
“I support socialism” “No I wouldn’t give my stuff and time to people who don’t earn it” 🤔
@s05150334 жыл бұрын
The comparison is absurd to begin with. GPA and money are not comparable. Most important, money is inherently an exchangeable thing that retains its value from one hand to the next. If I give some money to you, the money we both have remains legal tender. Contrarily, you cannot share GPA without rendering said GPA immediately worthless to everyone. GPA is only valuable because it signals mastery of content and allows you to meet standards so you can succeed. If you get a GPA, but learn nothing, the GPA is useless. Facilating that is wrong because distributing GPA hurts the "recipient" by falsely signaling to authority competence for further coursework/jobs. Likewise, the person giving up the GPA no longer meets qualification standards, thus he is suffering an unreasonable loss that prohibits him from succeeding. .He becomes "under-qualified." The issue is that my GPA no longer reflects mastery, and neither does his, thus we both lose. Since he only had his passing GPA through fraud, he will likely fail, thus rendering the effort inherently pointless. He's going to require socialist redistribution of wealth anyway when he loses his job or fails later courses. I am fine with giving people stuff they didn't earn if it will prevent them from suffering and they cannot help themselves, so long as in doing so, I am not making worthless what I give them or impoverishing myself. Giving someone access to basic medical care, food, etc actually DOES help them without rendering said goods worthless. I am not impoverished myself by giving up some money for these purposes, and in the end, I also benefit from it with them. But if I allow someone unqualified to pass, I am helping no one and hurting everyone. So my opposition to "redistributing GPA" is not based on any emotional inconsistent offense taken at having to give something to someone unearned. It's just that it's a waste of time. Much like how it would be a waste to time travel and give the plans for a nuclear reactor to 2nd century peasants at the cost of me being stuck in antiquity. Serves no purpose as they can't do anything with it anyway while just fucking myself over. These kinds of comparisons are not honest.They are pseduo-intellectual "gotcha" scenarios conservatives think are super duper clever, but they aren't. All it takes is a little critical thinking to dismantle them because they aren't based on any serious thought.
@wesley4924 жыл бұрын
Damien Rafalowski The people also said that they would not give their own money away.....
@s05150334 жыл бұрын
@@wesley492 The real question should be: "are conservatives okay with people suffering poverty when said people try hard, but still fail due to mental/physical inadequacy?" You can try hard and still fail at life. I believe that answer is "yes." Because Conservatives literally don't care. They believe that if you are less smart, disabled, old, or unlucky, you deserve punishment for it. Poverty is "always deserved."
@wesley4924 жыл бұрын
Damien Rafalowski No. Conservatives believe that the welfare system is abused. And by abused, we mean that a large majority of people on government assistance don’t want to work. That shouldn’t be allowed. If you aren’t employed in this economy you aren’t even trying.
@martinmccormick21664 жыл бұрын
MetalBiscuits this is soo true. I can't tell you how shitty welfare is In Alabama people either have no intention of gettimg a job and have children to raise the money that they get or they make a lot of money and keep most of it off books and then go get on welfare. which they aren't required to prove the income that they say they make or don't make. The state employees can't question them on this and thus we have an extremely broken system
@bryceb31942 жыл бұрын
Hysterical people actually think this is apples to apples. Fatal flaw: More money = more earning potential, it is often inherited & there is no limit to how much one can accumulate. High GPA ≠ more GPA earning potential, can’t be inherited & has a 4.0 maximum.
@juggernautmoses43482 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It's a shame so many people here can't think critically enough to see through this bs false equivalence.
@whatitis56462 жыл бұрын
Hard comparison; i’m not for one for socialism, but it’s a sharing of an asset versus sharing an academic rating. It’s akin to sharing your credit score versus sharing your money. One changes your eligibility for certain things where as the other simply deduces from your assets. Aside from that, the student’s explanations were still hypocritical and fallacious.
@Julia-iu7sz2 жыл бұрын
Money changes your eligibility for things as well. It changes your eligibility to be a member of a community through buying a house with higher rated schools or closer proximity to healthcare and grocery stores; it allows you to have personal transportation rather than public, pay off a large purchase sooner to avoid interest rates or higher insurance premiums, it changes your access to entertainment (concerts, streaming services, restaurants). Money is like opportunity which is why it can be traded so easily. Money is just a store of value just as GPA is a certain store of value. The biggest difference is that GPA is a less readily/directly transferable store of value. You can’t just trade GPA points for material goods upon graduation. The GPA would have to be utilized for program/job potential, which would turn into work, which then becomes a paycheck with which you could buy material goods. An academic rating is an asset just as money is. A credit score is also an asset.
@irv5812 жыл бұрын
Did you know the whole point of these hypocritical students for have a high rating academic is to get a job that pay the higher to be able to buy a great smart home and a Tesla? Or you believe they will use it to help poor people in Cuba and Nicaragua 😐
@firstnamelastname92372 жыл бұрын
Money and a higher gpa both are effected by your effort and time. Some people are also inherently able to get a good gpa with less effort same as some people find it easier to make money.
@Tymirjones2 жыл бұрын
I mean that’s overcomplicating it tho
@Tymirjones2 жыл бұрын
But yea still hypocritical at least you agree
@LumberjackJR5 жыл бұрын
The sad thing: they still don’t get it 🤦🏼♀️
@shadowbanned51645 жыл бұрын
Thats the impression I got as well they weren't making the connection with the obvious.
@anomalyevolution405 жыл бұрын
@@shadowbanned5164 The girl at 1:35 doesn't have a clue.
@josephjester49175 жыл бұрын
That's because the war going on in this country right now isn't a physical one, it's a spiritual one. And guess what? The good side is losing, all per God's plan.
@fatmorsyth28564 жыл бұрын
“ everyone’s a socialist until they get a job and have to pay taxes” hahaha these people have much to learn.
@crispkiller11574 жыл бұрын
@A Dominguez... Life teaches better lesson than Universities
@andreapasqua86394 жыл бұрын
@A Dominguez you should have taught him a valuable lession by paying him to do house work, then taken out money for tax, rent, time off for having down time and all the other things that workers get screwed on. Mind you I am glad your kid learned from the school of hard knocks seeing the commies posing at university lecturers failed him.
@jeremyanderson38194 жыл бұрын
@A Dominguez You illustrate the main problem with the majority of our society. We raise children with nonsense ideas of fairness and justice when we should be raising them to be money obsessed douchebags. We talk about charity and jesus like either have any place in a capitalist society, whose primary measure of a man is the size of his wallet. And then we wonder what the hell is wrong with the kids nowadays.
@junowatt58024 жыл бұрын
You nailed it, when they have to take responsibility and pay their own bills their outlook will be different.
@jpconservativeview39014 жыл бұрын
Its not when they start working and paying taxes.. Its when they have worked for years to gain a few promotions, are nearly double the minimum wage and think it would be great if the minimum wage increased by double until it does and they are pushed back to the starting point where all the people with no experience or skill is at, and there they remain... Until they work their way back up... Only this time they aren't blinded by the false idea that its pulling people up... They understand that it's knocking them off the ladder they tried so hard to climb That's when the socialist blindfold comes off
@cameronunwin4212 жыл бұрын
GPA is an equitable system. Grading policies are standardized and applied equally. Wealth distribution and compensation for work is not the same.
@SuperEzekiel72 жыл бұрын
Good point, but even still it is much easier to see the benefits of socialism when you're the one who would benefit, and very easy to disagree with it if it would disadvantage you. I feel like that is the point he is trying to make, though by no means is it a perfect illustration.
@acawap2 жыл бұрын
except that's not true. The biochemical physics major takes harder courses than the underwater basket weaving major. You could argue a particular class has the same grading scale, but so do jobs. It's a very good comparison.
@bro-ss2eu2 жыл бұрын
@@acawap the thing is you can switch your major to an easier one. You can’t switch to not be poor
@daliam87156 ай бұрын
Bullshit. It's not a good comparison. Managers at Macdonalds can make more money than teachers, yet we all know which one is more important, and requires more qualifications and harder work than the other.
@triparadox.c5 ай бұрын
@@bro-ss2eu Except you can switch to be not poor. How do you think most successful companies in US started? At a five-star office building fully paid by their parents or did they all start from garages?
@metalheadlass98682 жыл бұрын
Having a low income does not mean you don’t work hard
@jfivecoat5 жыл бұрын
"your GPA has nothing to do with your quality of life" then why are you going to college if not to improve your life!!!
@elmerwilber33085 жыл бұрын
yes
@demounit25055 жыл бұрын
Thought the exact same thing when he said it.
@bfields58395 жыл бұрын
So true. Study to get good grades and create opportunity.
@AWW84725 жыл бұрын
BECAUSE that what you just do! WHY ARE YOU QUESTIONING THE SYSTEM?!?!😣😝
@melissaholzhauer73105 жыл бұрын
With that incredible insight, I am thinking college will have a limited or negative impact on HIS life. Imagine the debt all to realize you wasted the opportunity to learn because you thought you knew it all.
@confectortyrannis2755 жыл бұрын
funny how quickly answers change when all of a sudden THEY'RE the ones that have to give up their labor and efforts
@jesusgonzalez845 жыл бұрын
More funnier when they don't want to give it away, but then WILL BE TAKEN AWAY, lol
@zakofrx5 жыл бұрын
I know people who have worked their way to wealth. These idiots don't seem to understand that the higher you go the longer you work.. People who do normal office hours when starting out find they need to start work at 6am and leave at 8pm when they get into the management levels of pay.. Its also one of the female wage complaints. I have known women who have chosen to stay at lower levels because they prefer the free time over a higher wage..
@Stanton_High5 жыл бұрын
Socialists don't exist. They would be the first to protest it.
@hunterraoulduke5 жыл бұрын
I feel like that is what socialism is. People for socialism just want something givento them, but when they have to give something then they feel its not the same.
@955miro5 жыл бұрын
It looks like most of these kids have never had to work for anything in their whole lives. They don't have any clue what it takes to make it in their own, to live independent of someone else's handouts. Their GPA is the first thing in their entire life they had to actually earn. Once they graduate and get a job, find their own place to live and start paying bills, maybe then it will click that you have to work for and earn everything you want to get out of this life.
@BedsitBob Жыл бұрын
"I have family in Europe. They go to College for free." No they don't.
@ryanduggan67382 жыл бұрын
This just isn’t what socialism is. GPAs represent the academic value of an individual, just like how a wage would represent the production value of a worker under socialism. The gpa system as it is now is arguably more “socialist” than what this guy is suggesting. Since the people interviewed in this video want fair grade distribution based on academic value they are in favour of socialism and not capitalism like so many in the comment section who have no idea of what socialism is, seem to think.
@darragh49122 жыл бұрын
I’m really concerned for all the robots in the comment section who haven’t made this distinction, was looking for comments like this to make sure I wasn’t the only one confused over this propaganda
@bug-lf4sg4 жыл бұрын
This is just a GPA. Imagine how they would feel if it was money.
@Misaka-gt5yj4 жыл бұрын
They can't make the relation with money because most of them are spending money not earning money.
@rubencarvalho22724 жыл бұрын
This is the worst comparsion you could ever do. Don't get me wrong, you can go too far to the left as you can go too far to the right. GPA allows the selection of the greatest intellectuals among a university, if you "give away" your GPA you're ruining your country with bad engineers, doctors, historians, etc because everyone is put in the same condition, giving the illusion they all have the same qualities. In an economic way, giving away a small part of your salary to, let's say, Healthcare, doesn't only help you but helps others. In the USA, only the elite doesn't get indebted if they are in need of hospital services - actually, there are reports of people preferring to die rather than going to the hospital - so, by giving away a small fraction of your salary to Healthcare, every single working person can afford to be treated in an hospital. Bias video where they select which individual to put in the video to give a bad impression of socialism to an America who views that word with disgust.
@Misaka-gt5yj4 жыл бұрын
@@rubencarvalho2272 The GPA analogy can easily be made to affirmative action for institutions alongside SAT. You are essentially compensating for someone's lower score because of your ethnicity. Prop 209 is meant to prevent that and give everyone a chance only based on their merit, not their ethnicity. Now due to the recent events, most companies and institutions start to unanimously repeal prop 209. In the future, you will have more cases similar to Vijay Jojo Chokal-Ingam due to affirmative action. In regards to your hospital comment, government subsidies will always cause hospitals to cost-shift, which will either increase cost or bankrupt the hospital because laboratory services to Medicare inpatients are reimbursed at an amt that is often not enough to cover expenses thanks to the Medicare's DRG system. Guess which option they would choose?
@rubencarvalho22724 жыл бұрын
@@Misaka-gt5yj I don't know if your strawman was intended. It can be applied to affirmative action and I'm obviously against it. You can check healthcare system in europe for a better understanding of how it can work if you'd like to. The response to Covid-19 in Europe and in the US speaks volumes.
@Misaka-gt5yj4 жыл бұрын
@@rubencarvalho2272 A socialist against affirmative action, never thought I'd encounter such a rare specimen. Here's the thing, you seem to be generalizing failure in healthcare to only cost without realizing most of those cost incurred are the direct result of cost-shifting. I work in molecular pathology labs, so understanding the difference between point of care and cost per test is important. Medicare has been allowing insurances to price fix, and Medicare reimbursements for primary care haven't increased since the early 1990s-while costs have gone up dramatically. You don't just subsidize more into an already broken system. The CPT and DRG systems made it so we must answer mostly to the federal government more than the patient. You would notice this when your primary care physician pays more attention to the computer than you. If you are a Democrat, you should be familiar with Bernie's plan, which focuses at getting insurance companies out of the picture instead on emphasizing cost reduction (which is far more effective) like Andrew Yang's. Getting insurance companies out of the picture is EXACTLY what is going to cut medical cost by half and reduce the need to cost shift significantly. As happened in other countries. The government becomes the only "insurance company". So every medical service provider (doctor, hospital, pharma company) who wants to stay in business and have customers, needs to accept the prices that the government is willing to pay. And guess what? There is a also a downside. The US government, which also has to compensate for other countries (e.g. Germany) failure to meet GDP spending on other organizations such as NATO, is going to reimburse at prices half of what service providers are charging now due to priority appropriation budgeting. Single payer health care system has its limits, which is why many providers here are choosing direct pay healthcare in America. Unfortunately in regards to SARS-CoV2, I don't think you are seeing the full picture. It is more than just cost per treatment. Yes, we have a financial incentive from Medicare to put COVID patients on ventilators, despite ventilators being the last resort option (MATH+ protocol comes first). However, you should know the difference between dying WITH and dying FROM, as Birx suggested before that US CDC data can't be trusted with direct accuracy. It is literally on the CDC protocol for death certificates regarding the virus, if you die while positive, you WILL be counted regardless of cause. You should also know how much medicine has been politicized recently in America. Refer to the Lancet/NEJM retracted articles pertaining to Surgisphere if you want to know more. It is quite literally the pandemic's first of many research scandals. Not to mention Fauci is one of the few health experts who remained consistent on social distancing and decontamination guidelines when it came to protests of any kind, unlike others who exhibit double standards. No one is surprised with the recent uptick in cases in half the states. You simply have people (we call them 白左 in China) in America willing to risk the well-being of others for simple and selfish act of virtue signalling. 70 coronavirus test sites were destroyed in George Floyd protests, I wonder why testing has decreased? (Hint: significant supplies of viral transport reagents was lost in the past 2 weeks) Wonder why contact tracing is not going well? (Hint: contact tracers working for the NYC government have been instructed NOT to ask anyone who is tested positive whether they had recently attended a demonstration). IF you still don't think the political manipulation of health data is what screwed us up significantly, I have a bridge to sell you.
@spunkyspaz5 жыл бұрын
No, not GIVING a chunk of your gpa.... Having a chunk of your gpa TAKEN from you and redistributed to others.
@mcpick6065 жыл бұрын
Nailed it!
@Tuke9325 жыл бұрын
Don't you mean OUR GPA.
@horseplop95 жыл бұрын
Live Free or Die USA Hey Man It Obviously Never Happened. The Left. Has Been Exposed As Having a Coup Against Our President.. Its Disgusting and Should Be Forever remembered as 80 Million Dollars and 2 Years Of Trying to turn the People of the Nation who elected him, against him. Shame on you Democrats and half the Republicans. This Is the Globalism
@mattlaskey7825 жыл бұрын
I finally got that elusive 4.0, my parents will be so proud haha.
@SousChef774 жыл бұрын
@@horseplop9 You said it Chuckles....knowledge is power. (and rare! lol)
@azuroslazuli6948 Жыл бұрын
Having moved from the US to Canada… You don’t want socialism. My husband earns LESS on his paychecks if he tries to work overtime, because it puts him at a “higher tax bracket.” Even though we really need the money, he literally cannot work to earn more. So we have to keep making the same budget work, no matter how much living costs rise. THAT is what socialism means, kids. See how you like it when you actually have to live it.
@kirkpatterson96132 жыл бұрын
These students don't have a clue what they are saying and how serious socialism can be
@bLo0dFaRt694 жыл бұрын
“I’m studying hard all day for my gpa” “I work hard all day working for my money”
@lyahandarissa4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@NevrrPresntt4 жыл бұрын
Yes sir. My day starts at 4am and usually ends around 9ish or 10ish. These kids really think I'm going to just give away my money like that? Lmao hell nah I earned that money with the sweat on my forehead.
@skourpi1424 жыл бұрын
Geeze Luizzz This is what they think socialism is. They think people will just roll over and hand over their money. In reality the chances it will ever happen are 100000000000000000000% false. We’ve never had a true socialist or communist country in the history of the world and there is one quote to sum this up perfectly, “Everyone hates power until they’re given a little of it.” Communist like society’s never work. The only communist like society that does work is China’s because they use a hybrid of communism and capitalism.
@Rocko19904 жыл бұрын
I find myself doing the "exactly! do you realize what you just said?" gesture to all these people
@GoTocco4 жыл бұрын
These “educated” kids seem completely unaware of how they contradict themselves. It’s truly dumbfounding.
@JoshuaKimbrough4 жыл бұрын
That's how brainwashing works lol
@BDees234 жыл бұрын
I agree. I just can't understand how they go into school and suddenly our system is bad. The greatest country in the world has somehow turned into the worst. WAKE UP PEOPLE and understand these so called smart people are promoting a system that has NEVER worked.
@GoTocco4 жыл бұрын
@@BDees23 The university professors are teaching them that socialism is good and capitalism is bad. That diversity is good just not diversity of thought. The US constitution stands in the way of a global government take over and teaching the next generation to devalue our system in favor of globalism is one tactic being used to deconstruct our national identity.
@angelbarajas91804 жыл бұрын
@@GoTocco They think they're educated because Twitter told them so.
@mvs35534 жыл бұрын
When it comes to political questions like these people tend to contradict themselves a lot especially if you let them talk for a while.
@GamerTime_20022 жыл бұрын
I definitely don't think this is a perfect correlation. One might say that a billionaire has a gpa of a 1000 when you only need a gpa of 4. Also gpa can mostly be correlated to hours spent but all jobs have a different hourly pay and this create a different disparity. But this example does do a good job at hitting the core of not wanting to give up some you've earned
@Niloklives2 жыл бұрын
How about this? What if another student decides to major in liberal arts? They study hard and get a 4.0 GPA for 3 years, but then realize their major isn't going to actually get them a job once they graduate? Should the engineering student give him half of his 4.0 so they both have an engineering degree in a year's time? Some people make bad choices about the jobs they pick, how long they stay there, don't interview for higher positions, etc. Some people aren't willing to take on the dangerous jobs or the messy jobs and would rather work 8 hour days answering phones. Should the person who stays at McDonalds for 10 years and doesn't pick up a side hustle, save their money, take out a loan and buy their own franchise make as much as the owner? Or as much as the person who learns about business and running a restaurant and opens their own chain? Not all paths lead to wealth and people who choose easier jobs or take fewer risks likely won't see the rewards the other people do. Similarly, if two people work the same job and same hours, but one of them networks with their peers and management, makes themselves well known, makes an effort to learn skills not part of their current job, and is personable while still getting their work done, and the other one keeps their head down and just does their work, who do you think will be considered first for assignments with bonuses? Or promotions? Some people don't put themselves out there like others do and their results may vary because of it.
@GamerTime_20022 жыл бұрын
@@Niloklives well thats a different topic, I was mentioning the 1% where as it sounds like you're talking about the middle and upper class. there's a lot of people who don't make good decisions in life or put in the necessary effort which is what the video is talking about, but that isn't the entirety of socialism which is why I said it isn't a perfect correlation.
@daliam87156 ай бұрын
Exactly. For the most part, how hard you work will translate to your GPA unless you have learning differences or other factors that affect that (if you have less money and you have to spend more time working outside of school). Income is different, because you can have a valuable job and work really hard and not be fairly compensated. Eg nurses and teachers. Both require degrees and both work so hard. They don't even get paid enough for the work they get paid for, but of course that doesn't include extra hours they have to put in that isn't considered in their pay.
@clashnstuff54512 жыл бұрын
the large difference is that people require money to survive and people don’t require a high gpa to survive
@radhiadeedou82862 жыл бұрын
GPA=degree=job=money
@shanechannel70665 жыл бұрын
"Do you believe in socialism?" "Yes!" "Would you give away your GPA those at the bottom?" "Uhh..." *cannot fast travel while enemies are nearby*
@damboulton5 жыл бұрын
Underrated comments right here
@DDawgX5 жыл бұрын
🤭😂😂🤣🤣🙌
@GeometryDashKenaz5 жыл бұрын
Top comment material 😂
@lebronfitzgerald81295 жыл бұрын
cannabased that’s, uhh... EXACTLY what socialism is, bud
@rons36345 жыл бұрын
I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took an arrow in the knee.
@topsecretbear99185 жыл бұрын
"I wouldn't be cool with giving up my own things to help others but I am VERY eager to take things from others"
@msbevins1015 жыл бұрын
Scary, a whole generation of stupid coming up....lol
@Phantazum5 жыл бұрын
Communism in a nutshell.
@andyz39255 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honesty.. now if we can only get the rest of man kind to admit that too and THEN ask GOD to help us "flip" our selfishness.
@hikaru16758 ай бұрын
0:30 gotta love how one of the most socialist idea he comes up with is affordable health care, something that is a basic right in every other developed country. The US is truly lost.
@UnkLuke2 жыл бұрын
bro these people fr think billionaires and multimillionaires work harder for their money than the average american 😭
@StormWolf013 жыл бұрын
"Socialism: let's do it! As long as we are giving away your stuff, but not my stuff." - Every socialist.
@darthporg98593 жыл бұрын
Socialism is basicly the gibs
@Christian921773 жыл бұрын
Accurate
@dq82623 жыл бұрын
Are y’all dumb?
@Christian921773 жыл бұрын
@@dq8262 I'm not sure you get the initial comment.
@tekschannel51283 жыл бұрын
@Daniel Dancuta and which socialist country did you grow up in?
@h133gaming63 жыл бұрын
“I’m studying all day for my grades” Yeah, and Americans are working all day to support their families, and don’t want their money taken away.
@cheesin13733 жыл бұрын
@@frankiegreenberg2771 not true at all, there are definitely still people that work their ass off to get a good gpa but still dont end up with one. Im my opinion, this situation would be a perfect replica of actual socialism and also shows how corrupt and immoral it actually is.
@magicalminty62033 жыл бұрын
@@frankiegreenberg2771 That's just not true. When I was in college I knew a couple of guys who defy your idea. One worked his ass off, he studied all the time, and was always getting tutored, but he wasn't that bright, and struggled to read, so despite his hard work his GPA was crap. The other guy was highly intelligent, he liked to spend him time smoking pot and goofing off, but because he could breeze through his school work easily his GPA was good.
@carnbyarst6703 жыл бұрын
You're studying all day for you're grades to get the job to pay back the student loan for the rest of your life...
@carnbyarst6703 жыл бұрын
@Boxspring74 you are right, I was alluding to the cost. The higher education system in the US must be one over the most overpriced and expensive anywhere.
@lillianjoycenesper40303 жыл бұрын
@@cheesin1373 That is not true. Kids with learning disabilities work extremely hard.
@anushganesh2 жыл бұрын
GPA and wealth are not comparable. There is a fixed maximum attainable GPA of 4.0, and not matter how hard you work a 4.0 max is all you get. Wealth is infinite... If you could earn more than 4.0, but everything more than 4.0 is useless and cannot go on your resume, one of 3 things can happen: 1) people will either end up working EXACTLY for 4.0 2) work harder, get more than 4.0, and claim just the 4.0 max officially 3) get more than 4.0, and pass on the GPA more than 4.0 to others (may be only a small percentage of people may pick the 3rd option) If wealth can be capped at a million dollars per year (assuming a million $$$ is more than enough for anyone to lead a "happy" lifestyle) no matter how hard you work, you MAY see the same effect. Since wealth is infinite, it may not psychologically work the same way. However, I am NOT advocating for a wealth/income cap. All I'm saying is that GPA and wealth are not necessarily comparable...
@draze22962 жыл бұрын
As far as I'm aware GPAs are used to rank students by how well they've done in school, if you give points from students with high GPAs to students with low GPAs while maintaining the ranking order it would have no real effect other than to force everyone who utilises GPAs to adjust how they use them. Alternatively if you adjust GPAs so all students end up with the same GPA it becomes meaningless. A good analogy to get people thinking about Socialism vs Capitalism but missleading none the less.
@mene64652 жыл бұрын
Not rank, necessarily, just shows how well you did in your classes. I might be missing your point but when people look at a gpa they don’t look at it to see how well you did compared to other people (usually), but more to look how well you yourself did.
@draze22962 жыл бұрын
@@mene6465 Yes, but if everyone's GPA changed, so too would people's perception of what a good GPA is.
@bira32322 жыл бұрын
xactly, that's what socialism is equality for all. What ends up happening is if your hard work gets redistributed to everyone else, then everyone stops working hard.
@daliam87156 ай бұрын
That's not socialism. Socialism isn't about equality, it's about equity. If you work hard you will be fairly compensated, so if you study well and get high scores on tests, your GPA will be high.
@erichorner83364 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe the hypocrisy. “I studied so hard though.” How can people not understand logic?
@pajamas7204 жыл бұрын
@The main cause of warps in all of reality i honestly doubt he lets his business go on autopilot. Thats a good way to start bleeding money. Otherwise youre probably right.
@Marv_E4 жыл бұрын
Wasi you aren't a CEO, so you wouldn't know would you?
@erokjr49924 жыл бұрын
Liberal logic lmao.
@johnnyrotten97574 жыл бұрын
@@wasi6798 but he created the company dumbass! Therefore he reaps the rewards
@libertyprime16144 жыл бұрын
@@wasi6798 You can work hard and you can work smart, Jeff Bezos did it both at the beginning his carrier.
@danielromero0014 жыл бұрын
I'm from South America and socialism is the worst thing that could've ever happened
@ZeitgeistGaming694 жыл бұрын
Just look at Cuba and Venezuela.
@danielromero0014 жыл бұрын
@@ZeitgeistGaming69 Nicaragua too
@dr.bunterhidenbrobruh55024 жыл бұрын
Normal people know that. Brainwashed leftists don't, and unfortunately many college students are brainwashed and indoctrinated by leftists.
@61shubhamdhaker694 жыл бұрын
Are you Brazilian?
@danielromero0014 жыл бұрын
@@61shubhamdhaker69 Argentina, not socialist at all but it's chosing that path since 1940, especially 1997 - 2020. The results are AMAZING! With free markets 5th wealthiest nation in the world and richest country in the entire world 1895 on track to beat the United States. Meanwhile in 2020 with wealth redistribution, closed economy, everything "free" (really bad quality) and a lot of public investment it's not even among the top 60. Not even prepared for such amount of public investement. But hey! We're socialist.
@blazingfish84862 жыл бұрын
That’s not how it works. People at the same college have the same opportunities, whereas the rich and the poor do not. Socialism is about distributing wealth among the workers. GPA sharing would be giving to the lazy, and socialism is about providing opportunities for everybody to work, and rewarding work appropriately.
@annelymaicitel16282 жыл бұрын
Yeah like honestly how does someone take such a complex concept and simplify it like that? This video/argument must contain at least 3 logical fallacies in it lmao
@MattSmith-us3ru3 ай бұрын
bruh, socialism is about giving the same to everyone regardless of how much they've worked, if at all. aka no reward and no incentive for individuals to work hard and no punishment for being lazy. After a while almost nobody is being productive, and everything collapses. With Capitalism on the other hand, everyone has to work, and if they don't, they personally suffer, and not everyone else. Sure there are a few people who are actually unable to provide for themselves, but that's where charity and kindness come in, not the government
@brentinjapan2 жыл бұрын
Intelligence is as inheritable as money, so there goes that argument too.
@goingaustinp12345 жыл бұрын
" I'm like studying all day for my grade" WTF I'm working all day for my money
@jimaubrey4985 жыл бұрын
How stupid are these students
@harrymills27705 жыл бұрын
@@jimaubrey498 stupid and selfish. The INSTANT socialism takes something from THEM they go full-on robber baron!
@TROOPERfarcry5 жыл бұрын
Yes, but that's "different"... it's complicated.... They suck at logic.
@NarwahlGaming5 жыл бұрын
"I'm all for socialism!" **gets first real paycheck** "What the hell is FICA?!" I'm surprised the government hasn't banned pay stubs to hide how much taxes we pay each week, yet.
@williamgarcia67315 жыл бұрын
I attend FIU and to tell you the truth, it is an SJW indoctrination school. You'll find all of these diversity posters around campus and well rape against woman propaganda. Being a conservative here is tough considering the fact that almost everyone thinks the opposite of you
@NarwahlGaming5 жыл бұрын
"Those who want socialism believe that THEY will be the ones who rise to power when, in reality, they are the first ones lined up against the wall and shot." - Yuri Bezmenov (former KGB officer)
@RandomsFandom5 жыл бұрын
that is only when you deceive people, and actually put a totalitarian govt in place... they want you to think socialism will fail
@sin21ful5 жыл бұрын
David miorgan oY vEy antisemite
@Dfthg-bz3hp5 жыл бұрын
@Brian stopped reading at race traitor,big yikes you dumb raciat
@lebronfitzgerald81295 жыл бұрын
Random Fandom have you never heard of a power vacuum? If nobody is in power then someone will come along and take it by force. Idealistic nonsense doesn’t change this reality.
@matthewfoley65585 жыл бұрын
@brian we’re breaking down your first paragraph. First off, it’s not traitorous to want to give all human beings equal rights under the law, and being “a traitor to your race and country” hell of a racist dog whistle. Second, Poland was invaded in 1939, get your history right. You claim that it is happening again, give sources. Also when you say leftists *clears throat* they’re not all homosexuals and Jewish people. Stop trying to scapegoat those people. Also Nazi Germany was not influenced by Jewish people, they wanted them dead. And tyranny is happening under authoritarian leaders not social democratic states.
@aglover123452 жыл бұрын
An genuinely interesting little experiment, but like all arguments from analogy, its force depends upon solvency of the analogy itself. And, in this case, the analogy falls apart upon closer inspection. Income is theoretically unlimited. You can always earn more, and you can always replenish losses incurred through taxation. University GPAs, by contrast, have a fixed upper limit; no matter how hard you study or how well you perform in class, you can't earn higher than a 4.0. More importantly, once you drop below a 4.0, it is impossible, even in principle, to return your GPA to its previous level. The two situations are thus disanalogous, and logical consistency never requires applying like principles to unlike situations.
@jk7772122 жыл бұрын
I see your point but I still think it misses the overall point that was being made... I think the point was hypocrisy...
@IamLaR12 жыл бұрын
@@jk777212 There is no reason to even respond to this Adam guy. He is one of those people that tries to be smarter then a simple lesson, which means he will always miss it.
@daliam87156 ай бұрын
No. Since the analogy of the GPA does not actually work, it's not hypocrisy. It's perfectly reasonable to not be okay with sharing your GPA but to be in full support of sharing your own wealth.
@aglover123456 ай бұрын
@@IamLaR1Let me apologize for my little exercise in critical thinking and distinction-making. I should have known that KZfaq was no place for adult conversations. Like you, I too wish reality were a children's book with easy answers and neat moral lessons. But, unfortunately, we all have to grow up at some point.
@francismallard58922 жыл бұрын
The young man hit the nail on the head without even realizing it; the interviewer asked “ what’s the difference between earning a high GPA and giving it away versus earning a lot of money and giving it away?l The young man started his answer with “I feel…” That’s exactly right: feeling instead of thinking.
@pietrocytosis2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it a bit pedantic to criticize his way of prefacing his words and to imply great significance to what is essentially a verbal tic?
@flynnzero92824 жыл бұрын
Scary the quality of individuals coming out of college today.
@Nayhan1234 жыл бұрын
Flynn Zero you got likes thought I'd tell you
@kikinatrone4 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@gentrybrown20324 жыл бұрын
And how irrelevant that education is.
@cruzwindu777deffsff44 жыл бұрын
@@gentrybrown2032 Are you implying my philosophy class will not make me a better accountant ???
@kellykelly29384 жыл бұрын
Flynn Zero, not only is the quality poor, but what you pay for that (really owe in debts) is horrible. It’s called the dumbing down (brainwashing the young) of America.
@itsatrap72155 жыл бұрын
Girl: That's completely different, cus I'm studying all day for my grade... There you have it folks.
@Icybubba5 жыл бұрын
Exactly, it's not like people work all day for their money or anything
@joesmith71855 жыл бұрын
That's why we failed by letting women vote
@Wiintb2 жыл бұрын
These colleges should be fumigated and we need real teachers. Just team STEM and some needful subjects like economics and accounting. We are going too far.
@iiiiii85222 жыл бұрын
I like your idea and agree with you on premise. But, higher education needs the useless degrees to make money to support the useful ones. The vast majority of students doing useless degrees would have no chance nor interest in doing STEM or business and would end up being MORE useless to society. Also, there's a reason teachers are all useless with little to no real world experience. Why teach when you can be more successful in industry? If that is not a question they ask themselves then they will be more successful teaching, and thus you have our current teachers...
@cara-seyun2 жыл бұрын
@@iiiiii8522 reminds me of the saying “those who can, do. Those who can’t, teach” (Which is why I think we should bring back apprenticeships, so experts can teach new generations while still doing their jobs)
@iiiiii85222 жыл бұрын
@@cara-seyun Completely agree with that.
@keith_dixon2 жыл бұрын
I support socialism as long as nothing is taken from me.
@alllivesmatter11254 жыл бұрын
You can almost smell their embarrassment when they realize their hypocrisy.
@danieljosevski11693 жыл бұрын
That one girl actually caught herself and said "it would be hypocritical if I said no". At least she was honest about it lol
@gjmarin20043 жыл бұрын
Not entirely I don’t think most of them even made the connection in order to be embarrassed
@jairgomez39653 жыл бұрын
More than hypocrisy, it’s ignorance
@dq82623 жыл бұрын
Did is a hypothetical question so she is not a hypocrite dumb loser
@bustersharman81153 жыл бұрын
Half of them are to stupid to even realize the hypocrisy
@chrisc19264 жыл бұрын
" I'm studying all day for my grade" ...uhhh people work all day for their money.
@thatdude93814 жыл бұрын
exactly what i said when she said that
@ninoperisi22104 жыл бұрын
That Dude Same here
@derkleebaum4 жыл бұрын
Some work long hours for next to nothing, some work all day to get millions
@chrisc19264 жыл бұрын
Der Kleebaum someone who is making over 1 million per year definitely is working very hard, or did work very hard at some point. (The exception being someone who inherited 1 billion and put in stable stocks and is being paid 1 mill+ by the dividend)
@jsmith426904 жыл бұрын
@@chrisc1926 family fortunes rarely last longer than 3 generations, for the same reasons most lottery winners lose it all within a few years: The more money you have, the more work and intelligence it takes to keep it. The qualities needed to hold onto money aren't as easily transferable as the money is. So, generally, it takes a lot of work to get rich and stay rich. Jesus, managing the taxes alone becomes a full time job. Very few people inherit a billion dollars (Seriously? Can you even name one guy?), and even if they did, holy hell the hourly paperwork for capital gains tax alone...
@scoobykitty2 жыл бұрын
This was a brilliant idea! I hope these students can see the hypocrisy. Freedom of opportunity is what capitalism is all about.
@ireacttoeverythingeverythi48332 жыл бұрын
You don’t starve if you have a bad GPA.
@Shaweweweeewah4 жыл бұрын
"I'm like studying all day for my grade" I guess the rich just find their money on the side of the road
@tsipher4 жыл бұрын
often times, that's how people think wealth is generated. I make $40K a year and have time to put money away every month, yet I get told that I have too much. I have had to say, "well, if I have too much, what is the incentive to work for that which I saved?" so many times that it just flies over people's head too often.
@aidanjames63684 жыл бұрын
Evan Ariana no, they don’t work for that much money. Let’s say someone makes 75,000 a year doing construction. Do you think billionaires work 13 THOUSAND times harder than them? Cuz that’s how much more they make.
@Shaweweweeewah4 жыл бұрын
@@aidanjames6368 money earned doesn't reflect the difficulty of a job, just it's value. If you put forth the effort and investment to build a billion dollar company, then you've earned every penny. If you don't want to be poor/middle class your whole life, take the risk and put forth the effort to create a business and make money. If you're not willing to take that risk and put forth that effort, you have no right to take what someone else earned by taking that risk.
@aidanjames63684 жыл бұрын
Evan Ariana small issue, people who come from poor families don’t have money to invest.
@tsipher4 жыл бұрын
@@aidanjames6368 came from a poor family, yet I'm working for the money to invest, just because you didn't have the money to invest doesn't mean you cannot eventually work up to the point of investing
@aurinslady71195 жыл бұрын
It's amusing to see how attitudes change when the equation directly affects them.
@randomchannelname245 жыл бұрын
and once they start earning money... boom converted haha
@TheOrangeRoad5 жыл бұрын
Same thing with the "cultural appropriation" of yoga video these guys did. White ladies are all against it, but if you come after thier yoga they have excuse after excuse
@danimal0975215 жыл бұрын
@@TheOrangeRoad Nobody cares about whether you do yoga.....Nice try though.
@TheOrangeRoad5 жыл бұрын
@@danimal097521 I know, because culture appropriation isnt a thing
@ozyankee44035 жыл бұрын
danimal097521 re: the yoga example Guessing you missed the video.... which sort of explained cultural appropriation... was bad... however when yoga was brought up... Same awakening as the socialism thing was here.
@Lanthanaas9 ай бұрын
"That's different because, you now, it affects me negatively... I only support other people giving me stuff, not me giving my stuff to other people..."
@ocarinaplaya7 ай бұрын
A supreme lack of deductive reasoning from these students.
@fen33116 ай бұрын
Makes sense, what he said wasn't socialism so....
@onejourney67765 жыл бұрын
"I've lost a lot of sleep so..." This girl has no idea what it takes to own a business.
@sawtoothscream15215 жыл бұрын
Yeah, she clearly doesn't know anyone that is a millionaire. The ones I know didn't come from money and bust their ass for it.
@republicansthatdidntvotefo16055 жыл бұрын
So you think when you're in bed at home, and your trouble man has his beeper go off at 3AM goes and solve the problem makes you a bunch of money in your sleep, he's worthless.. and Has no idea and the troubles you go through to make that kind of money... shouldn't ask for anything except for his job.. people like you are the ones putting this socialism into all these people's heads..
@onejourney67765 жыл бұрын
@@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 Jeff Meli Business man sleeping at 3am? Dude what planet are you on? If you want to grow a business and you want to grow it big you don't sleep for a couple of days. Working during the day is selling hours. Working at night is marketing your product until you can get big enough to hire people to do it for you. But you still did the work, took the risk, went in debt, found people to hire, paid for all the expenses. You literally are face down for 10 years plus working your tail off if you want to own a business. Where on earth did you get the idea I think my employees are worthless?
@RobyraDaFirst5 жыл бұрын
Working 2 times more hours than your employees yay!
@edwinmuchiri4805 жыл бұрын
I swear!
@chrishowell78543 жыл бұрын
"the stock market takes zero work" Soo why aren't you a millionaire yet?
@kristianjohnson87873 жыл бұрын
Exactly…push some buttons and get rich already! No matter what anyone thinks of him, I always use the knock on Donald Trump. “Sure he was a billionaire, his dad gave him a million dollars!” Imagine if turning $10 into $10,000 was easy…I’d skip Starbucks 2 mornings a week and have $10K by next week!
@dalemullins45623 жыл бұрын
they just" went on the stock market" lol that's not work hahahaha
@narendra623 жыл бұрын
20 years and counting living from the stock market. It's not work. It's the ability to be comfortable with risk, having surplus cash and governments that print money to inflate assets.
@MJ-xk8td3 жыл бұрын
@@narendra62 Ppl can lose all they earn and become poor in no time, if they don't make the proper decisions, in stocks
@narendra623 жыл бұрын
@@MJ-xk8td This is true. It's worked for me. I have been lucky and also helped by the multiple quantative easing.
@alexbishop772 жыл бұрын
There is no scarcity with GPA lmao
@scottphilips85142 жыл бұрын
I don’t think that’s a completely accurate comparison. When it comes to GPA, everyone starts school with zero, you can’t inherit a GPA or be gifted a higher GPA. It’s a completely fair starting point for everyone. With wealth, not everyone is starting from the same point, so it’s inherently unfair.
@camholmes76934 жыл бұрын
My seventh grade science teacher always said: “fair isn’t equal”
@capitalb58894 жыл бұрын
Your birth isn't fair either, and that is the greatest determinate of your future position in life
@capitalb58894 жыл бұрын
@Michael - you can do your best with the capabilities you have in the circumstances of your birth. For many, it will not be possible to grow rich or even comfortable. While that doesn't mean that everyone should be given equal outcomes, there is a good case to argue that no one should be left to die of a disease because they can't afford the necessary healthcare simply because their inevitable station in life is to be a low earner.
@capitalb58893 жыл бұрын
Duke Johnson - most people remain in the circumstances of their birth - there is actually far more movement up the scale in societies that are more egalitarian as the evidence supports. The US has some of the worst- even worse than class ridden Britain. The best social mobility is in Scandinavian countries. The USA comes in at number 27, near the bottom of OECD countries.
@capitalb58893 жыл бұрын
@Duke Johnson - obviously there is social mobility, but the countries with the greatest social mobility are those which have left-leaning, interventionist systems of government, rather than low intervention, free market economies. That is just fact.
@morgangrey40203 жыл бұрын
@@capitalb5889 incorrect...the biggest determining factor...is whether or not you choose to better yourself and work for what you want.....we have millionaires from every race on the planet here...the real question is..how bad do you want it?
@jasonspringer29835 жыл бұрын
"I'm studying all day for my grade" "I earned that". Now you're getting it.
@after_midnight95925 жыл бұрын
Too bad that liberal arts degree won't be of much value in real life.
@RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse5 жыл бұрын
As long as everyone can find their niche in which to lead a somewhat content life, that is a-okay. Not everybody can be a millionaire. The problem is America's whole self-made ideology, this idea that everyone needs to be successful and then defining success as what you see the one percent on TV doing, skews expectations. Couple that with an ethically questionable health care system and social net and you start to see where riots may come from and how the left has so much rhetorical ammo these days. The power of the ledt is based in the abject failure of the right to keep its own extremists in check. The right has made ethically impaired rich people into heros and thus alienated a LOT of people. The left has so much of a power base because the right handed it to them. Y'all suck. Stop sucking for just a year and see how things improve.
@JohnSmith-in4po5 жыл бұрын
@ashman9729 You really don't have a clue do you?
@LeonBelmont10005 жыл бұрын
@ashman9729 what you just explained would be called meritocracy. Intelligence can be quantified for individuals, and not everyone is on that same imaginary even playing field when they are born. The sad reality in the present is that universities are no longer looking for smart people, they have quotas to fill for gender/ethnicity. The quest for knowledge and truth is on the decline while resource distribution and obfuscation is on the rise. I think the person you responded to was commenting about how a lot of socialist values are similar to communist values, at least in terms of redistribution of wealth, whether tangible or not. I do feel like some political groups have tarnished the original values of what groups were meant for initially, kind of like how liberals are viewed as toxic and tyrannical about other peoples opinions, ironically, the founding fathers were liberals for the most part, but we see such a huge disconnect between the present and the latter. Question is has communism and or socialism succeeded in countries that enforce it? Venezuela would be a good example, or China, take your pick, should Countries be more like them? Strange how there is a constant influx of migration from those countries with unstable economies/governments, coming into the West which has more freedom. Why would people want to leave such amazing countries with socialism/communism? Curious as to what your answers are. Students that study all day and end out getting a D-? I'd question their studying methodology lol.
@e61r61b615 жыл бұрын
Maybe student A is not as smart and the rich kid is very smart. The both have the same chance just because someone is rich or poor what the hell does that have to do with there grades.
@brianmoore18572 жыл бұрын
I’m convinced “college educated” simply means “idiot”. How embarrassing.
@TrumpWon20202 жыл бұрын
If we changed the name of capitalism to "like totally literally the super bestest" every millennial would support it
@JohnSmith-pn1vv2 жыл бұрын
They are suckers for cheap language
@jlaw22885 жыл бұрын
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money." ~ M.Thatcher
@josephmorabito69925 жыл бұрын
The problem with corporate welfare is eventually you are stealing other people's money for you too make millions
@jbdragon32955 жыл бұрын
Joseph Morabito How does a corporation steel other people’s money? A corporation is not the government, they can’t tax you and just take your money. They are selling a product that people may want to buy. If people don’t buy their product, they go out of business.
@republicansthatdidntvotefo16055 жыл бұрын
With 11 trillion dollars in offshore accounts, untaxed dollars!! it's going to be a while to run out?
@davidgill33565 жыл бұрын
Jeff Meli if its off shore how are you going to take it at all?
@davidgill33565 жыл бұрын
Joseph Morabito shouldn’t be doing that either.
@leedavis75084 жыл бұрын
Typical Socialist, as long as someone else is being deprived of their property, they're all for it.
@Nayhan1234 жыл бұрын
Lee Davis you got likes thought I'd tell you
@OldmanJM2 жыл бұрын
Interesting how those who have not worked for 40 years to create wealth, want to share in the wealth of those of us who have. Seems kind of like jealousy to me.
@peto70202 жыл бұрын
yeah…we all share our GPAs with each other in Europe (dripping sarcasm). This is like asking people ‘do you eat meat’ and then say ‘so basically you want me dead so you can eat me’. You already pay taxes in the US. and you DO pay taxes for things you may never use - like a road in a nearby place which you will never walk or drive on. Your healthcare system is simply dominated by huge companies which really love the way things are now, its as simple as that.
@arcangel19945 жыл бұрын
"the stock market is just someone touching a button on the computer" if that was true 95% of traders wouldn't fail.
@Macca-955 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to ask "If it's as easy as just pressing a button and making money why don't you do that?"
@mehGyver5 жыл бұрын
And zero risk at all, right?
@danceswithbears25215 жыл бұрын
Yup, you don't need to know anything about stocks. You just push a button all day...
@Lolatyou3325 жыл бұрын
arcangel1994 yeah that guy was dumb. Stock markets are difficult and can have a risk associated with it. If one business goes under your money goes poof for the most part. That is why diversification is so important. Not to mention a lot of people who don’t make much money have made poor decisions which has resulted them with felonies, brain damage from drug abuse, loss of money from gambling, etc. If you make good decisions you can make a good amount of money. The argument that rich people all inherit their money and should be farmed for cash as a result is idiocy.
@chesscomsupport86895 жыл бұрын
So is writing an essay for a class... just saying.
@JodyBruchon5 жыл бұрын
"That's completely different!" - well yeah, it's different because your GPA in school is not money, but it's totally the same because GPA is your "income" produced by your hard work in college. What really gets me is that they start sounding awful "right-wing" once it comes directly out of their asses.
@AsG_4_5 жыл бұрын
It's not the same .. GPA has a cap and income doesn't... Ten dollars to me maybe a drop in the bucket and I might not even notice it was missing... But to the person making 9.25 an HR you bet they would notice ... I'm not for redistribution but I am for a progressive tax system since there isn't a cap on income
@randomchannelname245 жыл бұрын
it's bizarre how they don't immediately connect the dots that you make the same sacrifices and then MORE for your job than for your grades as a student
@JodyBruchon5 жыл бұрын
@@AsG_4_ I agree with you. It's just hard to explain the problems of redistribution to college kids who have never had a real job. GPA is a nice analog for income.
@toddlofton83075 жыл бұрын
@@AsG_4_ There is no cap on the number of classes you take. If you "miss" that A grade, just take another class ;)
@TheDandyMann5 жыл бұрын
@@AsG_4_ Why is it that the harder I work and the more money I make, I should have more taken from me through violent coercion? It's my money, not yours or the governments to have or control. The only lawful taxes are excise and direct that are apportioned. That was gotten rid of with the 16th amendment and now we have direct taxation without being aportioned, also known as taxation without representation.
@WinkLinkletter5 ай бұрын
That guy at (0:41) is the epitome of snively. Imagine his feelings running the show. "I'm not denying that fact either, but for the regular working person, you know...". What?! We know what, college student? When were you ever a regular working person? Always so generous with other people's resources.
@arushan54 Жыл бұрын
"Would you give away the fruits of your hard work in a capitalist society where each person fights for survival and justifying their existence?"
@invicta75464 жыл бұрын
"I'm studying all day" ,people who work 16 hour days for years to get to a million dollars👁️👄👁️
@justaderrickrosestan4 жыл бұрын
Santiago Rodriguez Newton and what’s your problem with that? Their parents worked, they chose to put that money somewhere, instead of complaining that people inherit money how about you go work so your own children can inherit it the same.
@laurenlizzbeth4 жыл бұрын
people who work 16 hour days for years and are still stuck living paycheck to paycheck because they had no initial wealth to invest in anything to start with: 👁️👄👁️ (P.S. it's because capitalism does little to increase economic mobility in it's later development a.k.a. where we are now, demonstrated by the limited social mobility in the U.S. www.pewtrusts.org/~/media/assets/2015/07/fsm-irs-report_artfinal.pdf )
@sircarlos37674 жыл бұрын
If you have to work 16 hour days for years I'm pretty sure you would be benifiting from socialism. Taxes come from every paycheck so if takes you that long to save up money you probably aren't making too much to begin with.
@hugorodriguez55214 жыл бұрын
Sir Carlos not true, a lot of people who started from nothing work that long because most people don’t realize starting a business requires a lot of time and sacrifice. And in some cases CEOs work up to 80 hour weeks because of the amount of work needed to keep their business going, managing different departments, and meeting with clients etc. A lot of people think that you can make a million dollars really fast due to all the click bait videos out on KZfaq where people claim you can make 10k if you watch this video. Which you can become rich fast but that is more based on luck than hard work and skill. But for most it takes years to even make a 6 figure business let alone 7 figures. Especially if you enter into a market where you have no name or reputation.
@cond.oriano49454 жыл бұрын
Santiago Rodriguez Newton there’s a difference between working hard and working smart. If you’re not making enough in your current job, switch to another job that’ll make you a lot of money and if you don’t want to become an entrepreneur because you’re to scared to lose money or invest then that’s on you pal.
@Artbug5 жыл бұрын
"Take from the rich!" "Who is rich?" "Anyone who has more than me!"
@100pyatt5 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY. Socialists always want to steal from someone else and never themselves want to give anything away.... Just look at the rich socialists(Clintons, Obamas,etc) that complain that the rich should "pay their fair share"... but none of them are offering up their wealth... Hypocrites all of them 💥
@peterpan82635 жыл бұрын
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@ThatGuy-vi8ch5 жыл бұрын
@@peterpan8263 None of that would have been possible without capitalism creating giant amounts of wealth in the first place. Humans will be generous with their money if you give them the chance. By taking away that chance, you ruin the system. Socialism only works on small scales, like a family household. I have no problem giving my neighbor a few bucks, it's when someone forces me to do it without my permission that people get upset. People are generous, you have to let them be in order for it to show.
@demef7585 жыл бұрын
"STEAL from the rich" is the more exact description.
@colinnadeau60682 жыл бұрын
Two reasons this is a poor comparison. GPAs are finite, and gpas are not earned off the work of others. If a realistic question was asked, such as if someone did your homework for you all semester would you allow them .2 of your gpa. Many more would say yes. Capitalism is like a group project where a guy says I’ll buy all the materials you guys do the work and I’ll collect 90% of the credit.
@jodicrain45002 жыл бұрын
These poor kids are so naive .
@diegohernandocubillos64643 жыл бұрын
Lesson learned: "it's always fair to take away from people with money unless the rich guy is me."
@nic86713 жыл бұрын
1:50 - GPA is different than wages. Having a higher GPA doesn't translate into being offered a higher-paying job. Therefore, you don't need to "share" your GPA with others to help them. Whereas, having a better salary leads to having the resources you need to live comfortably. If billionaires and centimillionaires shared their wealth with people who made less than $50,000/year, the billionaires and centimillionaires wouldn't lose any quality of life, and they would help millions of people in our country. This video makes a completely false equivalency - which the guy who is making the video knows, but just wants to promote his worldview and push his personal narrative that he knows will get a lot of views and reactions on youtube so he can make more money.
@WakaWakaWakaBoom3 жыл бұрын
@@nic8671 Well, if "Having a higher GPA doesn't translate into being offered a higher-paying job" while "a better salary leads to having the resources you need to live comfortably", won't sharing their GPA be less of a negative for them since the value of a GPA is less than that of money? Since the students are unwilling to share something with a lower value such as their GPA, do you think they will be willing to share something with a higher value such as their salary?
@aceott86903 жыл бұрын
@@WakaWakaWakaBoom lmao he went shush mode
@stephenc24813 жыл бұрын
Well, you only leaning socialism if you are poor. So, you wouldn't know how it is to have made your own money.
@nic86713 жыл бұрын
@@WakaWakaWakaBoom - First, this was a gotcha question that starts from a false premise. The question isn't posed as valuing their GPA as less valueable. Second, if the kids were properly explained what this person was doing, they'd come up with the same answer I have. If they knew that sharing their GPA wouldn't impact their future prospects, they wouldn't mind at all. Just like if they were billionaires they wouldn't mind sharing their wealth with others at all, either.
@MichaelJayyKRUMPS5 жыл бұрын
cog·ni·tive dis·so·nance noun the state of having inconsistent thoughts, beliefs, or attitudes, especially as relating to behavioral decisions and attitude change.
@thomaspaquette99915 жыл бұрын
Sums it up pretty well.
@Kryten4285 жыл бұрын
That guy at 1:50, you can almost see his brain short circuit trying to come to terms with his cognitive dissonance.
@DRAKKENFIRE225 жыл бұрын
Love your comment! I'm going to start using it in discussions. Brilliant term!
@anicetusfreedman945 жыл бұрын
It’s a lack of logos in today’s society.
@thegreatbamboozler48375 жыл бұрын
And everyone thought the "Greed is Good" crowd was the seed of anarchy back in the 80's! :P
@camlon22 жыл бұрын
This shows a fundamental lack of knowledge as to what Socialism actually is. Stupid question.
@dalfokane2 жыл бұрын
Because students are profiting of the works of others and not by only studying by theirselves /s This is a bad fucking comparision
@nicak777alex92 жыл бұрын
No, it's a good comparison. You just don't like it because it's not the exact same situation and miss the point of an analogy.
@dalfokane2 жыл бұрын
@@nicak777alex9 No, I don't like it because it's a bad analogy. You cannot compare gpa and money.