As a current LLM student myself, I have to say this is SO informative and SO helpful. Thanks for making a video from international students' perspective! Awesome!!!
@AngelaVorpahl2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! It's been a video I've wanted to make for a long time, so I'm glad I was finally able to make it happen :) If you don't mind me asking, when you signed up for the LLM program, was the intent to try and find a job practicing law in the U.S. upon graduation or was the plan to come to the U.S. for a year and return to practice law in another country?
@snowreader2 жыл бұрын
@@AngelaVorpahl Sure! For me personally, my anticipation is to find a job and practice in the U.S. after graduation - although as Ana shared, there are road blocks ahead.
@AngelaVorpahl2 жыл бұрын
@@snowreader If you're open to it, I'd love for you to keep me posted on how your job search goes! There are so many LLM students out there in the same position, and hearing how it's like to actually navigate the process would be a wonderful resource for so many :)
@samluca9452 жыл бұрын
@@snowreader hi there. How much does Llm cost you?
@gracevillwrites Жыл бұрын
I was a permanent resident when I took my LLM and I just became a U.S. citizen. This is the only conversation I heard that speaks very closely and truthfully to what I experienced and have learned. Thanks for this video and thanks very much to your guest.
@AngelaVorpahl Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad to hear it! Anna is a WONDERFUL resource, and I totally agree, it's tough to find information out there about the process so I'm so grateful she was willing to share this with us. :)
@suitandmehndidesign50856 ай бұрын
@gracevillwrites can you tell me how you become a us citizen
@hasnanmaqsood75556 ай бұрын
Am a foreign trained lawyer having tem years of experience in law intending to get LLM from USA.Ana information was very helpful mad comprehensive for me too.Thank you so much Anna
@pamcesarsz5 ай бұрын
Hii.. can you tell me your experience to find a job? I’m a green card holder planning to start llm in this fall. I’m very stressed about the perspective of not finding a job after graduate and pass the bar.
@Happiness_seeker244 ай бұрын
Hy am green card holder too , and al thinking about take the same path you have been through , can you give me your advice ,
@mahboobnewphone94382 жыл бұрын
Angela Thank you very much for accepting my request for this topic. It was very helpful. The questions accomodated comprehensiveness. I appreciate the time put by you & the guest speaker.
@AngelaVorpahl2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad to hear the video was helpful! It was definitely a long time coming so I'm so glad Anna was open to talk on this topic!
@ethanpelletier2 жыл бұрын
I’m a teaching assistant for a LLM (foreign student LLM) legal writing class. All of these students are licensed in other countries. They will earn their LLM degrees after one year of legal study in USA and then sit for the bar. But many of the students are not prepared and have a far lower pass rate on the bar compared to JD students. I think it’s a failure of the LLM “system.” Many of them never take Contracts, Property, Evidence, among others. I’m not sure a solution to this issue. They take a longer bar-prep course, but that doesn’t seem to bear much fruit. I think a better program should be available. Thoughts?
@AngelaVorpahl2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ethan, thanks for sharing your experience in that world, you definitely don't hear about this problem talked about in the larger legal education arena. I am by far an expert in this field, but one thought that came to mind is possibly some form of "pre-LLM" study regimen (or prep course) that functions as a "pre-Bar" course so that they get introduced to the concepts before they start and a second time when they're studying for the Bar. In your experience, have you seen many LLMs find full-time legal positions in the U.S. after completing the LLM program? I feel like those percentages also don't get get talked about much, and they're the ones I get asked about by international students most often.
@camillem4007 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. It was very helpful and informative! I was planning on qualifying as a lawyer in France and working there for 1-2 years before applying for an LLM in the US in order to sit for the NY bar exam. I hope that networking, making connections, and attending job fairs will be enough to be able to find a job... It'll definitely be a challenge!!
@AngelaVorpahl Жыл бұрын
You're so welcome! Definitely be sure to reach out to Anna Ivey with any questions or Talitha Krenk @talithakrenk on IG is a great resource too!
@brentandamandaturnbull16602 жыл бұрын
NY certainly used to allow foreign practitioners to take the bar exam without a US degree (not sure if they still do). A lot of my friends ended up in NY City that way. Agree with your guest re transferring from US to (say) Australia. Some serious bridging courses are necessary (which almost add to to doing a completely new law degree). Great video Angela!
@AngelaVorpahl2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I have zero experience with LLM programs and the foreign lawyer licensing process, so I definitely wanted to try to get some information out there for people in need of it :)
@brentandamandaturnbull16602 жыл бұрын
Should also say; most of the people who went there were actually doing work for a US firm but in relation to transactions involving Australia (and that's how they got the job).
@AngelaVorpahl2 жыл бұрын
@@brentandamandaturnbull1660 That's still really cool! I know positions like that are possible, but I've heard so few stories where foreign lawyers actually get hired by U.S. law firms so that's exciting!
@niacopeland2463 Жыл бұрын
New York admits foreign trained lawyers. You have to get foreign credentials evaluated first which takes a couple months.
@AngelaVorpahl Жыл бұрын
Hi Nia! Thanks for sharing that info!
@AngelaVorpahl2 жыл бұрын
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@Money.Spinner2 жыл бұрын
Angela, I love the way you smile
@gazihasanmahmud4023 ай бұрын
Dear Angela Vorpahl & Anna Ivey , I wanted to express my sincere gratitude for your outstanding video on LLM programs in the US for international students. Your comprehensive guide was not only informative but also incredibly helpful in navigating the complexities of choosing the right program. Your detailed insights, tips, and firsthand experiences provided invaluable guidance, shedding light on various aspects of the application process, academic rigor, and cultural adjustments. As an aspiring LLM student, I found your video to be a beacon of clarity in a sea of information overload. Your dedication to providing quality content that empowers students like me to make informed decisions is truly commendable. I cannot thank you enough for sharing your expertise and wisdom in such a concise and engaging manner. Please accept my heartfelt appreciation for your exceptional contribution to the LLM community. Your video has undoubtedly made a significant difference in my journey towards pursuing higher education in the US. Warm regards, Gazi Hasan Mahmud Advocate Judge Court, Dhaka, Bangladesh
@senaya20032 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this one 🙌 thank you so much, keep it up
@AngelaVorpahl2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Anna is such an amazing resource and I'm so glad she was open to sharing what she sees in her admissions practice with all of us :)
@foodiekariyawasam11112 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this informative video ❤️❤️❤️
@AngelaVorpahl2 жыл бұрын
You're so welcome! I know this is something that there's not a lot of information about out there, so I'm grateful that Anna was willing to help shed more light on it.
@MartinWakibe Жыл бұрын
Very informative video,thank you for enlightening us.🙏
@AngelaVorpahl Жыл бұрын
You're so welcome! I'm glad it was helpful!
@shahbazshahkhan87812 жыл бұрын
Personally this is heartbreaking as i was seriously considering to apply for 2 years JD from Chicago. But it makes sense. Why would an employer consider a student with Visa hurdles and comparatively not so good english. This is quite informative and to the point. Thanks very much. I was wondering if i can do JD from US on job visa in future if i end up there doing job in other field.
@AngelaVorpahl2 жыл бұрын
Good question, and the short answer is I'm not sure. I would definitely recommend speaking with an immigration attorney who specializes in domestic work visas so that you can get a full picture of whether it would be possible to transition from work authorization in one industry to another. Feel free to keep us posted on what you find out in case anyone is in a similar position!
@advocateinn8155Ай бұрын
Hi dear what decision have u made .? I am also thinking to JD from united state thanks I am also Pakistani national living in Germany thanks
@archerzzy Жыл бұрын
I am a JD student, but I have many friends who graduated from law schools in China and came to the US for LLM, it takes them 3-6 attempts to pass the BAR.
@Lynn.eugene7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this! Can we get more videos on best universities for international student to get an llm🙏
@AngelaVorpahl7 ай бұрын
Really good question and I honestly don't know! I would love to tell you to research the employment statistics for each LLM program, but they tend to hold those stats very close to the vest (which I think is a huge disservice to you guys). Reach out to Anna, but I would say that I've at least heard anecdotally that the Top 10 LLM programs will at least give you a gold star on your resume to get a job in your home country after graduation, but in terms of getting a job as a lawyer in the U.S., I would literally search alumni of the LLM programs you're considering on LinkedIn and ask what their experience with the hiring process was like (check out my video with Dave Strousberg on how to conduct these informational interviews).
@Lynn.eugene3 ай бұрын
@@AngelaVorpahlthank you Angela I appreciate 😊
@alfayomega17 Жыл бұрын
Great interview... 1. What's the recommended list of top 10 LLM in California and New York? 2. Do you guys recommend an online LLM program and then apply for work visa to practice your knowledge after those 2 or 1 year study?
@AngelaVorpahl Жыл бұрын
Hey Mario! I'm so glad you got a lot out of the video. I definitely recommend reaching out to Anna with your questions, or another great resource is Talitha Krenk @talithakrenk on IG!
@foodiekariyawasam11112 жыл бұрын
Hi Angela, I saw another youtuber saying that US law firms are not hiring foreign lawyers who have obtained LLM in US. Is that true? Im so confused. I want to be a Corporate counsel in a company in USA after obtaining LLM and passing bar exams. What are your thoughts? Kindly reply ❤️❤️❤️
@aishwaryasingh68592 жыл бұрын
This was a really heartbreaking video for me...... But then you can't change the things which are not in your control.
@AngelaVorpahl2 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry to hear that, Aishwarya. I wanted to find a way to make sure you guys had as much information as possible so that you can make the absolute best, most informed decision for yourself. Even if getting a law degree in the U.S. isn't in the cards right now, it doesn't mean it will never be or that practicing law in your home country can't be an amazing career too. 💚
@iganeshdesai Жыл бұрын
Are you to law student from India ?? !
@zpzodon29332 жыл бұрын
So Angela! What motivated you in becoming a Lawyer? Why do you do what you do? Is it about the money, power, prestige...all three?
@chabatake36072 жыл бұрын
Regardless of nationality, JD students don't have to concern about finding jobs as much as LLM students ,do they?
@AngelaVorpahl2 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I don't know how true (or not) that is. It would make sense that JD candidates don't have the same barrier or assumption of "not understanding the U.S. legal system" since you would have just gone through the traditional 3-year law school program. But in terms of the work authorization piece, I imagine it's still very competitive to try and find a legal employer to sponsor you for a full-time lawyering job. I don't personally have experience with this process so I couldn't say for sure, but to get a more personal take on it, I would recommend reaching out to the law schools you're interested in and asking career services what they have generally seen with job opportunities for international J.D. students and if they could put you in touch with a recent graduate so that you could get a sense for the process on a more personal level.
@skydominic14 Жыл бұрын
This is so useful
@AngelaVorpahl Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad to hear it! Anna is the literal BEST.
@drivethrutours19162 жыл бұрын
How often do law schools give merit-based scholarships to admitted students?
@AngelaVorpahl2 жыл бұрын
Good question. I'm definitely not an expert on law school scholarships, but from talking to those who are my understanding is that every law school has X thousdands of dollars in scholarship money reserved to attract strong candidates to their law school (mostly determined by LSAT and uGPA). Once that money runs out, they stop giving it out, so that's why it's so powerful to apply early in the admissions cycle (not only to get in but also to have the best shot at scholarship money). So, in answer to your question, I would say "all the time" :)
@bigbangaprova2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about doing the 02 year old JD. Now, I don't know what to decide! Is this accelerated program bad?
@AngelaVorpahl2 жыл бұрын
If you're looking for more insight into the 2-year JD program, I would definitely recommend reaching out to students who have gone through it and get a first-hand account of what they thought of it compared to the 3-year JD option. I would first reach out to law schools with 2-year JD programs that you're interested in attending and ask if they would be willing to put you in touch with any of their current or former students who may be willing to share a bit about their experience in the program. Keep us posted on how it goes!
@sumankaishver46682 жыл бұрын
Oh My Goodness !! It just break me apart ... But what if , i will do my undergraduate from U.S and then apply for J.D ???
@AngelaVorpahl2 жыл бұрын
Good question! My guess would be the answer is that in terms of admissions rigor (because you have a GPA from a U.S. university) you wouldn't have to worry about GPA translation or equivalency determinations, which will be helpful. In terms of the competitiveness for finding a job after graduation from law school, I honestly don't know but possibly the answer would be that you would encounter similar roadblocks if you would need a law firm to sponsor you for work authorization. I would definitely reach out to Anna, though, to get a more accurate answer!
@mec2fashion10 ай бұрын
What about for LLM PROGRAM for international Lawyers that are American Citizens? Thank you
@AngelaVorpahl10 ай бұрын
If you want to get an LLM as a U.S. law student, there's no barrier to doing that!
@tigranvirabian652410 ай бұрын
Dear Angela, do you know law schools in the US that offer top funding for an LLM degree? Can you provide a list? And that is not only about the top 14 schools, right?
@AngelaVorpahl10 ай бұрын
I'm honestly not familiar enough with the LLM process to give you a good answer on this, but definitely reach out to Talitha Krenk on IG (@talithakrenk) because she's an expert in this process.
@wenkaiyang148711 ай бұрын
Is there any legal field that allows me to focus on international law with China and the US? Thank you!
@AngelaVorpahl11 ай бұрын
I'm not sure! The first place I'd start to look are large Chinese law firms that work with U.S. law firms or clients, and reach out to do informational interviews with lawyers who work in those practice areas (in the country where you're interested in working). You can ask them about the path they took to get where they are. Check out my video on "informational interviews" to get you started!
@clairehuang76622 жыл бұрын
Thanks for such an informative video! Have seen quite a few Canadian youtubers studying at T14 law schools, would you say the job prospects for Canadians is more similar to US students, considering there's the TN visa?
@AngelaVorpahl2 жыл бұрын
Hi Claire, great question and the short answer is I have no idea. 😆 I did work with someone who went to law school in Canada and then got a job in New York, but I also recently coached a Canadian student who is currently attending a U.S. law school and he's having to navigate the visa requirements simply to get a summer associate job. So unfortunately I don't know enough about the visa specifics to be helpful here, but my recommendation would be to reach out to the student services/career services departments of U.S. law schools you're potentially interested in and ask what differences (if any) have they seen in job opportunities for Canadian JD students as compared to international students coming from other countries?
@pawangandharv6054 Жыл бұрын
Iam from india and now Iam joining in BBA LLB interested program after that i wanted to study in US and settle in US by completing LLM is this possible mam
@LeaveMeAloneBleez2 жыл бұрын
hello angela . I always hear that it is so hard to find a job as a lawyer . is it true
@AngelaVorpahl2 жыл бұрын
Hi! So there tends to be a consensus that there are more laywers than lawyering jobs available, but I don't know that I actually agree with that. That being said, your very first job out of law school will always be the toughest to get because you're brand new to the profession and don't have any marketable skills yet. One of the things that you should definitely check out before you decide on a law school is the ABA employment stats, which is just a one-sheet PDF that shows you what percentage of the most recent graduating class found full-time jobs within 10 months of graduating. And I would recommend doing this for any law school you might be interested in -- just google "UT law employment stats" (for example). Let me know if that makes sense! Angela
@prabishashrestha5617Ай бұрын
Hello mam! I am from nepal and recently I completed my high school in the field of bio science, but I want to join the course of international law in USA. Is it possible for me to go there and retrive my bachelor degree in the field of international law?
@VictoryAlexanderSopuruchukwu2 ай бұрын
How many years will it take to finish the required stuffs before practicing in US
@Money.Spinner2 жыл бұрын
So I guess I'm better off going to Canada instead of the us
@jeremybrown7937 Жыл бұрын
really
@michelgarcia50706 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video!!! I really appreciate it. Do I have to go to the United States to study my LLM? I am a certified lawyer in my country Colombia and I work for a law firm based in the United States but also has offices in Colombia. I work as a Legal assistant here and have learned a lot about American immigration law. Can I do my LLM online from a US based university and go to the country just to take the Bar?
@AngelaVorpahl6 ай бұрын
Hi Michel! Great question. I'm honestly not sure if an online LLM program exists, but give it a google and/or reach out to Anna Ivey and she might have some good insight for you (her contact info is in the description)!
@okvadvocates22602 ай бұрын
I opted to apply for the flex llm program tailor made for the bar exams. Is it a good choice?
@harinibalaji2619 Жыл бұрын
Hi I want to become a lawyer in the US , my highest qualification is MBA . I don’t how to pursue law here plz guide me how to achieve , which exam I need pass . I want to step to step process Thank you
@mayukteotia5640 Жыл бұрын
Mam please tell me that corporate counsel or in house counsel required to give bar exam for work in a private company.
@Bobbymademusic101 Жыл бұрын
Question :I am currently studying for my LSAT I wanted to study out in The U.K. But speaking with someone yesterday they say my U.S. college credits will not be transferable . I don’t mind studying in the States and taking the Bar Exam , but I will like to study or workout in the U.K. How do I go about that ?
@AngelaVorpahl Жыл бұрын
Hi Bobby! Reach out to Anna Ivey or Talitha Krenk on IG @talithakrenk. They specialize in this area!
@Bobbymademusic101 Жыл бұрын
@@AngelaVorpahl Sweet Thanks
@nabinadhikari939110 ай бұрын
This is me an advocate from Nepal. Do i have any possibility to take the Bar examination of USA?
@taniyawalia4991 Жыл бұрын
Hey … pls i really need guidance…. Pls reply .. i m struggling so bad to what to opt for ?
@nancyalqeel27862 жыл бұрын
I’ve American citizenship but I Consider myself an international student I’m from Jordan I have graduated university in Jordan and I’m thinking about studying law in the United States what is my best choice? where should I look for more information? especially that I’m not a law graduate
@AngelaVorpahl2 жыл бұрын
Hi Nancy! I would definitely recommend reaching out to Anna Ivey (her contact info is in the description below the video). She works with international students interested in practicing law in the U.S.
@Jaishreekrishna7263 ай бұрын
I am in 5th year of law from india ...N i want to study after ballb in usa ....plz suggest me what should I do ...also i want to be a permanent resident of that country ..plz help me on this ... Which program will be good for me to get tha permanent residence and a good earning in that country
@eirvingdiaz71852 ай бұрын
LLM degree is a terrible idea for foreign applicants who want to study for the bar exam. Constitutional, Evidence, Ethics, Civil and Criminal procedures; state and federal are not studied on LLM program. This is your basic, basic, basic subjects --- MBE SUBJECTS. LLM does not help writing those long essay questions in 45 min or 30 min depending on the state. LLM degree is not helpful to issue spot nor does it teach you IRAC or legal memo for bar exam purposes. LLM is not going to help you pass the bar exam. Example, UCLA LLM program is on entertainment law, interntional law, human rights law, tax law --- none of those subjects are part of the bar exam and everyone knows this --- it's an open secret. If on the other hand, the student does not have the intention to take the bar exam then it is a very good idea to study LLM degree on entertainment law, who knows, maybe you can represent Taylor Swift or some other celebrity in your home country.
@AA-ke4xn2 жыл бұрын
Do the same limitations apply for international students who’ve got an undergraduate degrees in the US?
@AngelaVorpahl2 жыл бұрын
Ooh good question! My guess would be the answer is no in terms of admissions rigor (because you have a GPA from a U.S. university so you don't have to worry about GPA translation or equivalency determinations). In terms of the competitiveness for finding a job after graduation, I honestly do'nt know but possibly the answer would be yes if you would need a law firm to sponsor you for work authorization. I would definitely reach out to Anna, though, to get a more accurate answer!
@AA-ke4xn2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And thank you for the excellent video!
@AngelaVorpahl2 жыл бұрын
@@AA-ke4xn My pleasure! I also host a free FB group for law students and prelaw students looking for clarity and support in their law school journey, would you like the link to join?
@chaix44822 жыл бұрын
@@AngelaVorpahl Hi Angela, do you mind sharing this link with me too? Thanks heaps
@AngelaVorpahl2 жыл бұрын
@@chaix4482 Sure! Here it is: facebook.com/groups/lawtribenetwork See you inside!!
@k.s.a.b.8373 Жыл бұрын
Hello, cal you help me , If I have a BS In law from USA, can I go to UK & get a LLM?
@navneetchahal7310 Жыл бұрын
How is university of Nebraska for LLM ?
@neolesath Жыл бұрын
I studied law in Mexico. Can I study an LLM in Texas and practice there?
@AngelaVorpahl Жыл бұрын
If you're looking for additional support, I recommend reaching out to @talithakrenk on Instagram. She specializes in helping international law students and foreign-trained lawyers navigate the U.S. system of practicing law.
@hopnextwellnessnepal7900 Жыл бұрын
I want study LLM. How can i study LLM to there US.
@gunjanvermani1987 Жыл бұрын
Hi Angela. Please if anyone can suggest or guide me! I have done Bachelor’s in Economics Hons from India(3years), Bachelor’s in Law from India(3 years), LL.M. from the UK(1 year) I am now married to a U.S. citizen and very closer to Permanent Residency. NY Bar in the evaluation process rejected my Indian Law degree of not being sufficient in durational, substantial aspect. What is the best path for me now? Should I appeal to the NY Bar considering I already have an LLM degree from the UK, so I should be directly allowed to sit for the bar exam? I am in a huge dilemma. Any suggestions or thoughts would be really appreciated!
@AngelaVorpahl Жыл бұрын
Hi Gunjan! Another resource to check out is @talithakrenk. She's a former student of mine and coaches international law students and foreign-trained lawyers through the J.D. and LLM processes. You can connect with her on IG or KZfaq!
@iganeshdesai Жыл бұрын
Same here di can we connect i am 5 year llb student
@taniyawalia4991 Жыл бұрын
Hii .. i want to pursue LLM in usa And facing difficulty in choosing subjcts Pls if u can guide me … it would be soo great .. pls do reply !!
@chetnakuri5509 Жыл бұрын
Hey! Mam I wont to talk to you my name is chetna I am from India . Can you tell me , I am in 11th stander now so I become a lawyer ,l won,t to do law from USA after 12th can you tell me a process of it
@WilliamAllen-hr7pq6 ай бұрын
Are you bar manber yes orno🎉❤🎉
@chetnakuri5509 Жыл бұрын
Hello Mam I wont to talk to you
@tusharparekh80608 ай бұрын
👌👍
@AngelaVorpahl8 ай бұрын
🙌🙌🙌
@mariamnazim5858 Жыл бұрын
I’ve done 5 years of law school outside the US and on my way to Permanent Residency in the US, and look to live in the US long term, I’m still confused between the LLM and JD. Thoughts?
@AngelaVorpahl Жыл бұрын
Hi Mariam! Good question. I'm definitely not an expert in this area, but I know a coach who is! Here name is Talitha Krenk, and she helps international students/foreign-trained lawyers looking to practice law in the U.S. She's a wonderful resource, so feel free to reach out to her here: instagram.com/talithakrenk/
@misbahanwar3676 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mariam, did you get any guideline ? If yes then please share. I have the same case.
@mariamnazim5858 Жыл бұрын
@@AngelaVorpahl just seeing this, thank yous o much. appreciate it.
@mariamnazim5858 Жыл бұрын
@@misbahanwar3676 let's connect. no im yet to contact this person