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This stupid easy trick to write better lyrics will stop you from struggling with writing lyrics. There's no one formula for writing a great song. However, some tips and techniques can help you write better lyrics.
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@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
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@jas_bataille
@jas_bataille Жыл бұрын
My dad have about 45 years of experience in the industry. When I started writing songs, he told me this : "Every line that's not an image, you cut it. Every single one of them. No filler." I've basically been doing this subconsciously for years!
@dayvia10
@dayvia10 Жыл бұрын
Great advice
@InAtlasAtLast
@InAtlasAtLast Жыл бұрын
As a folk writer, I totally disagree with that. Understanding popular songs….. he’s right.
@beatrice3371
@beatrice3371 Жыл бұрын
Depends on the type of song.
@gvngbvngiggy
@gvngbvngiggy Жыл бұрын
Theres like a million hit songs that are like 80% filler
@cigh7445
@cigh7445 Жыл бұрын
​@@InAtlasAtLast And most pop songs have terrible, generic lyrics with a catchy melody
@skinnyDN
@skinnyDN 2 жыл бұрын
" a very plastic bag thing to do." made me laugh so hard. love it
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
cheers skinny dave, but the credit has to go to Ryan George. cheers man😂
@Afrodulcys
@Afrodulcys Жыл бұрын
Do you need a songwriter?
@ioncewasmikey
@ioncewasmikey Жыл бұрын
Fake plaaaa-AAAAAstic bags
@judithhartley9392
@judithhartley9392 Жыл бұрын
But very scary if you've seen those huge bags (👻👽) wafting through a neighborhood park, freaking out van occupants !!😮😂
@CantTellYou
@CantTellYou Жыл бұрын
An opening lyric that has been derided as a joke since it came out 😂 perfect example
@lucasulich4149
@lucasulich4149 2 жыл бұрын
i feel like a cinnamon roll always spiraling, never in control because.... i dont know myself
@mikehawkertz9237
@mikehawkertz9237 Жыл бұрын
Feel like a cinnamon roll A sweet little spiral Around and around I go I try to help but hurt my soul And people taking bites out of me They take but don’t give anything And I just continue spiraling Just spiraling Just spiraling
@handsomehead1381
@handsomehead1381 Жыл бұрын
deku deku you can call me deku green hair green eyes im just a lil cinnemon roll 😍😍😍
@charlespancamo9771
@charlespancamo9771 Жыл бұрын
I feel like his advice is a good start but it gives way to a lot of linear and formulaic thinking, which, there already is FAR too much of in the world so no sir, I can't cosign.
@deannawilson3421
@deannawilson3421 Жыл бұрын
@@mikehawkertz9237 Bars! 🙌🏽
@DaschonelleMusic
@DaschonelleMusic Жыл бұрын
Feel like a cinnamon roll A sugar laced whirlwind But carbs take their toll....
@rubendaviso
@rubendaviso 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm gonna fly as a bird through the night" from Chandelier is not a WHY, but rather more HOW. The lyrics of that song just gives you metaphors that sets the listener in the scene and help convey the current feeling and somewhat dark actions of the person in the song. The lyrics talks about being mentally in a bad place (the reasons left to interpretation) and overall the song means you’re holding on for dear life. The WHY isn't given to the listener.
@mattrushing8025
@mattrushing8025 2 жыл бұрын
It's more of a simile
@rubendaviso
@rubendaviso 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattrushing8025 It actually is a simile, but the purpose of that simile is to give more info on the "HOW".
@rubendaviso
@rubendaviso 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebeefyleaf I agree, that could be part of the WHY, but it's not answered in the Chorus, at least not in the main chorus. That song has two choruses with different motifs (rhythmically and melodically) which is what sets them appart, and in this case these choruses are placed one right after the other. The first chorus is when it says "I'm gonna swing from the chandelier....", and the second is when it says "But I'm holding on for dear life...".
@NotDingse
@NotDingse 2 жыл бұрын
It really is neither.
@davidblairmusic
@davidblairmusic 2 жыл бұрын
And the listener always has to be given something to think about otherwise it's not relatable or entertaining. The listener doesn't want to be force fed truth, they want to discover it with help from you the songwriter. Nice observation!
@SplotchTheCatThing
@SplotchTheCatThing 2 жыл бұрын
It's always fun when you find a really important piece of advice and realize you've already been following it for years :) Not quite the same as validation or feeling like you've been doing it "right", because in a creative space like songwriting there isn't really a right or a wrong, but it's encouraging all the same.
@brigwood7658
@brigwood7658 2 жыл бұрын
Of course it's not not so much fun when you realise you've been following this advice for years ... and your lyrics still suck.
@dimboomx7582
@dimboomx7582 Жыл бұрын
well, there's definitely a weak message and a strong message in songwriting. There are certain things we have to follow to guarantee the lyrics hit as hard as we want them to, otherwise we would be doing it wrong, also how well the lyrics sound poetically - that's another thing that one could do wrong
@SplotchTheCatThing
@SplotchTheCatThing Жыл бұрын
@@dimboomx7582 That's definitely true I just meant there's often more than one way to do that. And the best way to send a message sometimes also depends on what the message is.
@CLaw-tb5gg
@CLaw-tb5gg Жыл бұрын
I heard it said once that the art of writing poetry is essentially alienation. That is, taking something familiar and looking at it or expressing it in an unfamiliar way, making the mundane seem extraordinary. If you can do it in a particulary interesting or striking or beautiful way, you have poetry - or in this case, song lyrics. This is really what this "SHY method" is really about.
@kellybastien9269
@kellybastien9269 23 күн бұрын
Have you seen the movie the book theif?
@oliverbrauning1586
@oliverbrauning1586 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly read (especially older) poetry to learn how poetic devices are actually supposed to work. View the world as if it is actually full of meaning and look through objects and situations to find their ultimate truth.
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop Жыл бұрын
Great advice👍
@cbrooks0905
@cbrooks0905 Жыл бұрын
I tend to break the rules quite a bit in every regard(I don’t write pop music), but one thing I always do on every song or verse is the ‘why’. I always figure out a way to tie my lyrics and structure together with some intent. It makes the song feel like it has a purpose. Now this video brings new ideas, especially with regard to working with other artists who are more pop oriented. Good shit! 🤘
@pgnandt
@pgnandt Жыл бұрын
Yes. The chorus can be viewed as a punchline. BTW there are no rules. Just theories. But I know what you mean.
@jarrettfinney4882
@jarrettfinney4882 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. This helps out a lot. True story. I've been writing music ever since I was a young kid, and when I was a kid, I wrote songs like crazy. They just popped out like nothing. I would see the things you're describing. The thing now is that when I was in high school, I got some head injuries playing football that I only just recently found out about in the last few years. Im not stupid, it's like my brain just works in a entirely different way. I can't seem to write good lyrics to save my life now, but I'm glued to my guitar now. Just one of those things. Seeing this really kinda reminded me how I used to write though. I guess I was doing some of this stuff just not knowing it at the time. I'm gonna see what I can do now. Thanks again
@SAEpisodes4444
@SAEpisodes4444 2 жыл бұрын
That’s interesting that you stopped writing lyrics after the head injuries. I had a concussion about two years ago and several months later started writing lyrics for the first time.
@djcoldfood8800
@djcoldfood8800 Жыл бұрын
@@SAEpisodes4444 u guys swapped
@acoustically9201
@acoustically9201 Жыл бұрын
You know about the role of the left side of the brain vs the right side? Depending on where any damage may have occurred it could be a factor here.
@spotifyaccount1565
@spotifyaccount1565 Жыл бұрын
An example of a song i wrote using this method: they say numbers tell no lies i stop and think before i dial it would you tell me you cant hear me i bet that club so crowded or could you hear it in my voice that im alone and i feel surrounded tell me that you’ll be right there breathe count to a thousand your love is like a deep breath at the top of a mountain they say you cant get over it then you go around it i cant get over it there’s no way around it i cant get over you and i need you need you around me i need you around me your love is like the finish line lookin back at those who doubted your love is like the sun and sky still keeps me grounded your love is like a deep breath at the top of a mountain they say you cant get over it then you go around it i cant get over it there’s no way around it i just cant get over you and i need you need you around me
@cacobapt
@cacobapt Жыл бұрын
I'm a singer/songwriter just starting in Brazil and I'm really glad that I found the SHY method on my lyrics even in Portuguese, I never forget that, thank you!!!
@PGwatson13
@PGwatson13 2 жыл бұрын
Btw this is the best songwriting channel on YT. Helped me tremendously
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Gabriel, I really appreciate that. Glad to hear the content has helped, makes my day 😃
@alinaaavikko2623
@alinaaavikko2623 2 жыл бұрын
Same! Helpful AND inspiring.
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
@@alinaaavikko2623 cheers, I really appreciate that.😊
@wearesongwriters4811
@wearesongwriters4811 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Most consistent channel ever!
@juliandivine
@juliandivine 11 ай бұрын
Have been writing songs forever and took a break recently.. now it feels like I can't write anymore. Going to try this method and let you know how it goes. Thanks!
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 11 ай бұрын
Good stuff Julian. Remember that this is a framework. You don't have to limit it to just similes, you can use metaphor, personification...anything you want. You can also expand on the how & why whith other questions...where, when etc. Good luck 👍
@ShenauticOfficial
@ShenauticOfficial Жыл бұрын
A lot of lyrics are based off of poetry so making some sort of image with words it’s generally great advice.
@pgnandt
@pgnandt Жыл бұрын
I considered at one time to go to my local college to find a literary or poetry student or club that could help with a project. Give them a song with guitar phrases as vocals and see what they come up with.
@andrewspicer6399
@andrewspicer6399 Жыл бұрын
​@@pgnandtI actually do this quite a bit in my own music. I'll come up with some good voices and phrases on the guitar then translate.. actually put out a video on KZfaq yesterday that is me starting a song and finishing it. it's a whole video of me writing a song from beginning to end.. and in that video actually do this and talk about it briefly
@pgnandt
@pgnandt Жыл бұрын
@@andrewspicer6399 Nice. I will definitely watch your video today.
@akeithing1841
@akeithing1841 2 жыл бұрын
Been struggling with the music for new song. Even more so with the lyrics. This actually helped!
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear A keithing, so glad you got some value from it. it's simple but effective👍
@ketchupknife
@ketchupknife 2 жыл бұрын
I hope this channel blows up soon. your videos are amazing and deserve so much recognition
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
cheers Silky Bolt, thank you for the kind words. Glad you're getting some value from the content.👍
@wearesongwriters4811
@wearesongwriters4811 2 жыл бұрын
They're underrated, and I'm sharing this channel to my friends cause they deserve it!
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
@@wearesongwriters4811 Cheers We are Songwriters, I really appreciate that👍
@recentalpaca5529
@recentalpaca5529 11 ай бұрын
Bro, I have watch lots of lyric writing videos and this is by far the best formula yet, it fits the examples perfectly and easy to execute. Thanks!
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 11 ай бұрын
Cheers recentalpaca, really appreciate that. Great to hear you got some value from it 👍
@Bow503
@Bow503 Жыл бұрын
"I'm gonna make a change/for once in my life/ it's gonna feel real good/ gonna make a difference/ gonna make it right/ .." this is the pinacle of an imortal anthem that was ever written. It tells the story trough inner monologue but out loud. How much personal can it be, than to whiteness someone facing their biggest fears and finally coming to the point of Realisation about themselves. Your all alone, only you and the man in the mirror. 💚 Thanks for the tipps
@VxDxLx
@VxDxLx 2 жыл бұрын
I was doing this but unintentionally already, I’m going to make a wave of sound and enjoy the process of creating what I’m intended to create.
@BautistaZep777
@BautistaZep777 2 жыл бұрын
Guy called him Yorkie 😂
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
Ole Yorkie!🐐
@davidrichmusic121
@davidrichmusic121 Жыл бұрын
Good vid and yes this is a way, I think you have to do what works for you. Most songwriters fight with themselves and spend too long thinking and overthinking. I have a book side of bed wake up and write the words because you never remember the next morning. Also I just write what comes into your head I can write 6 songs a day and then spend time going over editing ( sometimes months) but get the basic thoughts down first. I think the content you have on your channel is really a great watch cheers David
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop Жыл бұрын
Nice one dave and wel said.
@steve_bal4
@steve_bal4 Жыл бұрын
"you're just like an angel" has to be one of the most cliché lines/lyrics ever written. Most people go for the idea they've heard a million times before because it's easy and lazy. Go for something, a turn of phrase, that no one's ever heard before. Be unique, be brave.
@lance134679
@lance134679 2 жыл бұрын
When deciding between similes and metaphors, I try to think of how strong it should be. With "I'm like a stone", the focus is still on me, but now I'm rather stone-ish in some particular way. Whereas "I am a stone", I've now fully become the stone and ready to take on all traits of being a stone, like rolling or gathering moss or no moss.
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
well said Lawrence.
@angerock49
@angerock49 Жыл бұрын
Good point!
@strummercash5601
@strummercash5601 Жыл бұрын
@Lawerence Gillespie I am in complete accord with the two previous comments (including the creator! Cool.) That was an incredibly clear and concise insight and illustration-not only on and of the strength, commitment, and willing transformation inherent in the “I am” as opposed to “I am like”-but also provided the basic nuance between metaphor and simile for any previously unaware peruser of comments. Thank you. As an MFA in Creative Writing grad who musically was lyrical/vocalist first and has worked (still do) to level-up my musicianship, I always respect and admire precise and effective explanations/lessons/instructions etc. I enjoyed the video: your reaction very much resonated. Odd comparison, perhaps, but my near 60 year old sister has discovered a late-blooming liking for THC products, especially the after-work gummy. She was and mostly still is confused by the proliferation of strains, ways of consumption but asked for a newbie simple indica vs sativa breakdown. “Well, sis…it’s maybe the sativa is the inspiration and energy to bake homemade chocolate chip cookies weed. And, the indica is the slouch on the couch and devour said cookies smoke.” Again, great comment, thank you and excellent channel, my gratitude, as well. 🙏🏽✌🏽❤️
@davidblairmusic
@davidblairmusic 2 жыл бұрын
The 'why' has to be obvious for the writer as the teller of the story, and it should give the listener a reason to listen otherwise they won't. Nice short video - straight to the point with great examples!
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
cheers David.
@pgnandt
@pgnandt Жыл бұрын
But having lyrics that are confusing will draw the listener into listening again. The listener will make their own sense of it. -Berkley School of Music. One of many theories out there.
@pgnandt
@pgnandt Жыл бұрын
Verse= Describe a person, place, thing or feeling. Chorus= What are you going to do. With rock and roll lyrics you don't have to make sense. Leave the meaning of the song up to the listener's interpretation. The Beatles 'Come together'.
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop Жыл бұрын
I don't disagree but it's only one way to write lyrics. Established acts can get away with it way more that unknown artists trying to break through. Unknown acts should be aiming to be better than what's already out there. Just a point of view to consider before you get into the habit of writing lyrics that lack the ability to connect with a listener on a meaningful level. But what ever works for you, go for it👍
@pgnandt
@pgnandt Жыл бұрын
@@SongWritersChopShop There are many ways to compose lyrics. I added what you provided here in my bag of tricks. I appreciate it. Subbed.
@Auldhelm
@Auldhelm Жыл бұрын
I tried this on a song I just wrote and sure enough it did improve it IMO!
@wearesongwriters4811
@wearesongwriters4811 2 жыл бұрын
Yay thanks! You guys inspire me to become a better song writer. Cheers!
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, that makes my day👍
@bloodyshrine1369
@bloodyshrine1369 Жыл бұрын
The radio head song, is also like patronising someone in a kind of demoralising way. Good song lyrics, I believe, have a “not what they seem” way about them at first. Sometimes years go by before the actual meaning sets in.
@kawakeman9583
@kawakeman9583 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for your videos! Great advice every time and straight to the point. Keep up the good work, song writers (and their listeners) will benefit greatly!
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one KAWAKEMAN, really appreciate that.👍
@wearesongwriters4811
@wearesongwriters4811 2 жыл бұрын
Very much informative 👍
@freddiekay
@freddiekay Жыл бұрын
Be careful with similes, boys and girls. That’s a very quick shortcut to ending up on Metaphor Boulevard in the famous town of Cringeville.
@JonValtandtheEvilRobots
@JonValtandtheEvilRobots Жыл бұрын
Being told to put a simile in your poetry is like being told words are made of letters.
@astrixkz
@astrixkz Жыл бұрын
love this video, man got right into the topic and gave very worthwhile advice
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop Жыл бұрын
Cheers Will, bad boys for life!👍
@chocolatemoose7761
@chocolatemoose7761 2 жыл бұрын
Dope tips. Simple and straightforward. Thank you!
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Chocolate Moose
@singalternative
@singalternative Жыл бұрын
It's all about poetry. "Angel" is one of those poetic words.
@exmagnolia
@exmagnolia 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite simile is found in Coffee and TV by Blur: Do you feel like a chain store Practically floored 😆
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
love it!
@1oolabob
@1oolabob Жыл бұрын
I make lots of instrumental music, and I write a lot of words. I should be a natural at songwriting, right? Wrong. Even with those two conditions and practices, I hate trying to write song lyrics. My solution? Never try, because trying to write a song will make me hate the process. Good solution? No, not really, because I'd like to write songs my own way. I like starting with an instrumental, and then let lyrics occur to my mind if they do, and if they don't, I made a nice instrumental. Um, this S.H.Y. method might actually get me unstuck. Really I want songs to have a purpose, and express something that is quite a bit bigger than the words. Thank you for this video. I like your ideas.
@pgnandt
@pgnandt Жыл бұрын
I'm the same. I have lots of music ability but have no talent with lyrics. Look up Pat Pattison, Berkley school of music. Guy has lot's of tricks. I have tons of music leaving space for lyrics. I've also considered finding a literary student from my local college. Find a poet. You never know.
@lumberpilot
@lumberpilot Жыл бұрын
Often the words will come out from just singing the song through with whatever consonant and vowel sounds flow with the musical phrases. Then, you go back and try to make sense of it all. I think Cat Stevens said he did this when writing his songs.
@shannonsmith6085
@shannonsmith6085 Жыл бұрын
Nice tune! Thank you for sharing your process through Jeff Tweedy. I love the idea of being a collaborator in the meaning of a song! I feel confident to dive into the song in my heart!
@badedgod1321
@badedgod1321 Жыл бұрын
This is such a helpful video, I've studied lots of music theory in college but where I've always struggled is creating lyrics for my songs. I've always been strong in English but these concepts are so new and refreshing to my mind and make so much sense to what I'm trying to accomplish. I wish I could've received this kind of useful education earlier in my career. I don't know what school or program you attended to learn this techniques but I would be incredibly in your debt to share with me lol. Thank you for all your amazing content I'm hooked.
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 11 ай бұрын
Cheers badedgod, glad you found it helpful. This is stuff I picked up over the years here and there. 👍
@rpfcreates4476
@rpfcreates4476 Жыл бұрын
You’re more than a teacher With you I’m not alone I’ve learned everything I can Now I’ll write a story of my own... Thanks!
@Housey29
@Housey29 Жыл бұрын
Glad I watched this and good examples to back up the SHY method, gonna apply that technique on my 1st song!
@colalightyear7859
@colalightyear7859 2 жыл бұрын
"a very plastic bagey thing" loled hard XD
@colalightyear7859
@colalightyear7859 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty good video, straight to the to the point, thank you
@davidlawrence5
@davidlawrence5 Жыл бұрын
Interesting advise and I'd add another color to that palette - flow. Just start writing without stopping and then go back and look for SHY areas to touch up. I like to get it all out no matter how the words collide for those are my ideas and not a copy of something I've already written. At least that's my hope and oft times I'm pleased and what the listener hears is no longer of importance to me.
@realcarlspartacus
@realcarlspartacus Жыл бұрын
HAHA THOSE TRANSITIONS RULE MAN... THANKS FOR MAKE ME LEARN AND LAUGH IN BETWEEN.
@sarcasmo57
@sarcasmo57 Жыл бұрын
I had a friend with a radio head, but video killed him, right in his head.
@CountryCroonerMusic
@CountryCroonerMusic Жыл бұрын
I want my lyrics to be less obvious. One of my favorite lines is from Jeremy by Pearl Jam, "Jeremy spoke in class today" and I think how genius is that of a way to say "jeremy shot himself in class today." John Prine is another one of my favorite song writers and he writes lyrics that are so relatable and paint a picture. He has a lyric "Climbing walls while sitting in a chair" about someone using heroin in Sam Stone, for example. In All the Best, a song about divorce, he writes "Say you drive a Chevy, say you drive a Ford, you say you drive around the town til you just get bored" which hit me hard because that's exactly what I did when I split with my fiance many years ago. You don't have to directly say your point, but it's made. I also want to write something where I know what it means, but it can be interpreted in different ways, like in poetry. What I don't like about the simile example in Katy Perry's song is that it explains exactly what she's trying to say. It takes away the impact, for me. In Summer's End, Prine writes "well I can see that you can't win for tryin and new years eve is bound to leave you cryin. Come on home, you don't have to be alone" that can be interpreted in so many ways. And when you watch the video, you see it's about a mother dying from a drug overdose and the grandfather raising the child and so it's like his message to her. It's heartbreaking and it wasn't spelled out for you. You could have interpreted that in your own ways. Amazing stuff. Your video really got me thinking about this and I'm going to watch more of your videos and check out your site and keep working on writing and performing.
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop Жыл бұрын
Cheers Travis, thanks for the comment. It all depends on how you want to write. I agree on your approach to writing lyrics that can be open to interpretation, I think the writer needs to know what they are saying. Then they can write in a nuanced way that the listener can insert themselves into.
@pgnandt
@pgnandt Жыл бұрын
Yeah but you don't want to leave your audience in a state of depression. Personally as an old musician I care more about the music than a song's meaning.
@chanschunes
@chanschunes 2 жыл бұрын
big help in killing my months long writers block. Lots of love from drogheda, Louth
@athomesongwriting
@athomesongwriting 2 жыл бұрын
PURE GOLD. Amazing.
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Chad,, how's it going? great to hear from you. Really appreciate that👍
@noah-jazz
@noah-jazz Жыл бұрын
Ornamental structures shattered again Broke the gates that should've stayed within Seems like I shat myself
@ironicdreamsonfire755
@ironicdreamsonfire755 Жыл бұрын
Omg you’re the best! Thank you for this, very helpful.
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop Жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍
@chris_d_r_u_m_s
@chris_d_r_u_m_s 2 жыл бұрын
I love how "do you ever feel like a plastic bag" is used as an example of greatness here! That's literally the exact example that I always use to tell people about how embarrassingly bad lyrics can get in songs 🤣 One man's trash is another man's treasure... Or should I say "plastic bag"
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, thanks for the comment. I'm not actually saying any of the lyrics of the examples are an example of greatness. The point of the video is the pattern that they all use. 👍
@theysprey7777
@theysprey7777 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was “you’re just like an onion, your skin makes me cry” 🤣
@krugsmatedan5373
@krugsmatedan5373 2 жыл бұрын
criminally underrated channel
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Dan. That damn algorithm eh! Great to hear you are getting some value from it😺👍
@KainCarthyst
@KainCarthyst Жыл бұрын
because if there is anything I know about angels, its that their skin makes me cry
@samantastrautina6694
@samantastrautina6694 11 ай бұрын
Sia is truly underrated lyricist
@RedNK
@RedNK Жыл бұрын
This was actually a great video and very useful Cheers!
@pauluskerenga4624
@pauluskerenga4624 15 күн бұрын
Like a mighty sea veseel she sails the waves of sorrow, heart filled with grief, she knows no surrender, truly a vessel built for tough waters strong is she .ready to face life head on. Once a hero's queen now a lonely star Though lonely,still shining brightly . Take care of my little soldier cause I don't think I'll be coming back.
@ambs9564
@ambs9564 2 жыл бұрын
why hasn’t anyone thought of this?? this is BRILLIANT
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
about time!
@youreallygotmenow4855
@youreallygotmenow4855 2 жыл бұрын
Having watched the whole video, I've got some criticism to make. I really don't think you've made great choices in terms of songs. "Firework" by Katy Perry is not an example of good lyricism, not even in the context of a pop song. Any bored teenager can write bland lyrics like that, and that's definitely not a sign of artistic greatness. "Chandelier" by Sia is quite similar. The lyrics aren't as bland as "Firework", but they're not particularly good either. What really makes the song 'worth a listen' are Sia's fantastic voice and her great interpretative skills. Again, definitely not the lyrics. "Creep" by Radiohead, in my opinion, has the most interesting lyrics out of the three songs you picked, but frankly, as a long-time, huge fan of this band, I gotta say they're not particularly good lyrics. He definitely wrote much better stuff (lyrically) than "Creep" on later Radiohead records. It should be noted though that Thom was only 24 when he wrote them and that he was never satisfied with them (I think, to this very day). One more thing - I understand and appreciate your willingness to provide some advice to young songwriters, but, at the same time, I also think that videos like these can be a bit 'dangerous' as they can potentially 'flatten' and standardize people's writing. I mean, there's a reason why Bob Dylan's (or Leonard Cohen's) lyrics are instantly recognizable. It's because they've never followed any advice, and in doing so, they have developed a way of writing lyrics that is very personal and that, ultimately, makes their pens truly unique. I hope you get my point of view, man.
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
I do get your point and I respectfully disagree. What I've pointed out in this video is a bonafide writing technique that you can find in any type of writing from poetry to prose across every genre and style of writing. The examples I chose were for their simpicity in the use of the technique to make it accessible to young or new writers, ultimately it's up to them to create content to fill these structures in a way they feel expresses their true intent. To Say Dlylan or Cohen never followed any advice is a bizarre statement to make, seriously it is truely bizzarre. T.S. Elliot? Federico García Lorca? "How does it feel, how does it feel? To be on your own" and HOW would they be on their own? "with no direction home" And WHY would that be? because they're.. "A complete unknown, like a rolling stone" I also think that comments like these can be a bit 'dangerous' as they can potentially make people think their writing has to be held against some standard of excellence as defined by a self appointed gaurdian of song and music. I share knowledge I've learned over 30 years of being a songwriter to help people that struggle with this and hopefully make their journey a little easier. I hope you get my point of view, man. And thanks for watching all the way through and for the comment. I appreciate it.
@youreallygotmenow4855
@youreallygotmenow4855 2 жыл бұрын
@@SongWritersChopShop 'To Say Dlylan or Cohen never followed any advice is a bizarre statement to make, seriously it is truely bizzarre. T.S. Elliot? Federico García Lorca?' Yeah, I meant to say that they never followed another songwriter's advice for the lyrics of their songs, not that they didn't have literary influences to draw inspiration from. It's very different. Anyway, I really appreciated the example you gave with "Like A Rolling Stone" which actually proves that your method is applicable to many lyrical contexts. Best of luck with your channel :)
@liampugh
@liampugh 2 жыл бұрын
Hard disagree, firework is a timeless banger
@NotDingse
@NotDingse 2 жыл бұрын
@@SongWritersChopShop I’m sorry to say it, but I really don’t see how your example with Like A Rolling Stone proves anything. The first line isn’t a simile but a straight forward question. Therefore the second line can’t be an indulgence into the first line. It instead acts as an addition to the question. The last line consists of two similes. The same thing can be said about the Sia and Radiohead examples in the video. The only correct example in the video is Firework. But you’re right about Dylan and Cohen using formulaic writing. Poetry/song writing has lots of unwritten rules, and those rules brew formulas.
@thechessclub8527
@thechessclub8527 2 жыл бұрын
This dude is trying to make your lyrics better and you're acting like he is trying to restrict you. I bet you can't write for shit
@Eyeintheredsky
@Eyeintheredsky Жыл бұрын
I just followed this and made myself cry with my lyrics.
@LuciensMusic
@LuciensMusic Жыл бұрын
Good tip! I need all the help I can get😅
@randomfangirl1275
@randomfangirl1275 Жыл бұрын
Helped a lot with my poems! Thank u
@suburbanindie
@suburbanindie Жыл бұрын
All the lyrics you used as examples are loaded with clichés which most people are told to avoid... I've heard writing the lyrics to the chorus first helps a lot to establish the theme of the song
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop Жыл бұрын
It's more about the framework than the examples. I just wanted to use well known songs for the examples. Yep starting with the chorus is a solid approach, it helps keep everything cohesive.
@pgnandt
@pgnandt Жыл бұрын
Solid advice. Many songs do start with a chorus. 'Don't bore'us, get to the chorus' is the saying.
@gabe2968
@gabe2968 2 жыл бұрын
"Do you feel like a chain store? Practically floored"
@SaumBodhi
@SaumBodhi 2 жыл бұрын
Great lets all use the same formula and make all songs the same.
@brianmac8260
@brianmac8260 Жыл бұрын
X-Ray Spex 1977 - My mind is like a plastic bag. Stealing lyrics is good too.
@danielridgeway6375
@danielridgeway6375 Жыл бұрын
I try to steer clear of similes. They've been overused as lyrics over the last 20 years. Especially by rappers, who rarely follow it with a 'how?' They just use them because it's a cheap method to throw in a word or phrase that fits the meter.
@Neil_MALTHUS
@Neil_MALTHUS Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. Now I have to write a song to address the ecocide... Woe is me!
@Iksiksinski.
@Iksiksinski. Ай бұрын
Kudos for giving a awesome knowledge
@wbmstr24
@wbmstr24 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I did it, used the SHY method, wrote a song today....pretty cool, thanks so much. It's not perfect, as I'm adding music via guitar, I'm making it fit, inserted a word here or there, or dropping out a word or two, but it really worked....thanx for the road map !!!
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear Frank, glad it helped.
@liddywit7139
@liddywit7139 Жыл бұрын
I would also suggest learning how to properly structure a 🎶
@samuelkatz5370
@samuelkatz5370 Жыл бұрын
Bro your channels awesome. Dont stop kid!
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that Sam, cheers 👍
@justinstorm
@justinstorm Жыл бұрын
Goated advice
@jackdawson5490
@jackdawson5490 2 жыл бұрын
Video would've been much better if it wasn't edited like a corporately run comedy KZfaq channel from 2011
@itookallthenames
@itookallthenames 2 жыл бұрын
The cut to the camera perpendicular to the narrator time warped me back 10 years
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
"corporately run comedy KZfaq channel from 2011", classic.
@boppo7189
@boppo7189 Жыл бұрын
‘ like an elephant shaking his trunk for the hell for of it ‘
@BennieDuck
@BennieDuck Жыл бұрын
cool vid, man
@SHIMSHAMRECORDS
@SHIMSHAMRECORDS Жыл бұрын
I always thought that the plastic bag line in the Katy Perry song was alluding to a scene in the film "American Beauty".
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop Жыл бұрын
It is indeed and nicely spotted. I can’t believe the amount of heat its getting in this here comment section!
@ShreetheG
@ShreetheG 10 күн бұрын
You are the G mate
@OAlem
@OAlem Жыл бұрын
Do NOT use similies. Replace them with metaphors.
@pgnandt
@pgnandt Жыл бұрын
Both.
@bolivar1789
@bolivar1789 Жыл бұрын
Excellent advice! Thanks a lot for this great lesson!😊
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop Жыл бұрын
Cheers Lua, glad you got some value from it. 👍
@AdelleVDL
@AdelleVDL 4 ай бұрын
I found myself in writers block now so I am looking for inspiration and your video is so nice, short, sweet and informative, truly amazing and fun as well
@omelettttttteeeeeee
@omelettttttteeeeeee 10 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure that Katie Perry's song is a reference to the movie American Beauty, where there was a short video of a plastic bag floating in the wind, and I'm pretty sure that was lambasting the lack of self-awareness artists seem to have sometimes...
@whateveryasaypal5022
@whateveryasaypal5022 2 жыл бұрын
To me this technique usually seems to result in very generic, formulaic and bland lyrics. If you want to write "good" lyrics follow your gut, be yourself write whatever you please with unmitigated freedom
@certainfrequencies
@certainfrequencies Жыл бұрын
Add it to your tool belt of tricks when writings lyrics, don’t center a whole song around it
@pgnandt
@pgnandt Жыл бұрын
Tricks are good to have. More tools the better.
@MrMikomi
@MrMikomi 2 жыл бұрын
This is very good, and easy to remember. And I didn't have to watch an hour long video to get the information. Thanks.
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
cheers mrMikomi. yeah i love watching hour long vids for two minutes of info.
@MrAngeloDy
@MrAngeloDy Жыл бұрын
Wow ! Thanks such awesome content!
@CallMeBigWorm
@CallMeBigWorm Жыл бұрын
👏👏👏😌✌️ it sounds beautiful! Very nicely done. It sounds so sweet, somber, and docile. I would love to hear you play it on the electric with a clean tone and some light reverb and maybe some delay.
@Actuallyusefulthings
@Actuallyusefulthings 7 ай бұрын
Yes, true. It is a very plastic baggy thing to do. That was an amazing analysis.
@easypeasyabcsy7883
@easypeasyabcsy7883 Жыл бұрын
Great. Gonna try %) Thanks
@robsem1
@robsem1 Жыл бұрын
Hey guys thanks for the video. So I have a weird scenario, I happen to be a great writer and lyrics and ideas come to me very easily, BUT I am ZERO musical, so I have a bunch of these complete songs in my phone with barely any melody involved besides a drop of a ryrhym in my head that I can't even express. I want to show my most recent song I wrote and tell me what u think: Title: You Taught Me The Song Intro: I've heard about these things before, thought I understood it all I've seen it in movies, heard about it in song When they say you can't keep living That the future is bleeding Thought I knew what it meant But it was all in my head I've heard about these things before, thought I understood it all Oh hell I wish that you didn't, but girl you taught me the song Chorus: It's a broken heart A way to start Doubting my reason - Doubting my reason to keep on this breathin I turn right there your sittin Turn left here I'm grievin One minute I'm beamin The next here I'm singin - Bout why to keep on this living Damn I'm feelin that feelin Cuz girl you taught me the song Bridge 1: Some say there's another Some say lose my number Some don't mean no harm Some can't be more sharp But however the storm chooses to open its gates You'll be lying here with me wondering what it takes To click on erase To get her back to your place Chorus: It's a broken heart A way to start Doubting my reason - Doubting my reason to keep on this breathin I turn right there your sittin Turn left here I'm grievin One minute I'm beamin The next here I'm singin - Bout why to keep on this living Damn I'm feelin that feelin Why girl you taught me the song Bridge 2: Can't turn on the radio or lean back my seat Can't roll over in bed and see it's empty Cuz all that stuff kills me Reminding me of what I see - As a love on the brink All because of me Now all that's left of my misery Is my new understanding Of what they sing on the frequency Cuz my baby she's history Chorus: It's a broken heart A way to start Doubting my reason - Doubting my reason to keep on this breathin I turn right there your sittin Turn left here I'm grievin One minute I'm beamin The next here I'm singin - Bout why to keep on this living Damn right I'm feelin that feelin See girl you taught me the song (why) Outro: I've heard about these things before, thought I understood it all Oh hell I wish that you didn't, but girl you taught me the song Yeah why'd ya teach me this song
@FootyEditz276
@FootyEditz276 Жыл бұрын
is it chill if i use these lyrics and make a song?
@robsem1
@robsem1 Жыл бұрын
@Deltaz yo please do it and send it to me I'd be more than happy
@FootyEditz276
@FootyEditz276 Жыл бұрын
@@robsem1 sure it'll be a while though how should i send it?
@pwarner
@pwarner Жыл бұрын
It’s not bad. you should learn basic guitar or piano so you can get those songs out!
@NoahHornberger
@NoahHornberger Жыл бұрын
seems too long, you should select the best passages from this flow and edit together a more concise version that clearly announces one main idea, supporting it with details. Or just consider it a poem as is!
@ecomarlee
@ecomarlee Ай бұрын
Luv these comments. Thanks everyone.
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop Ай бұрын
@@ecomarlee 🙏
@SJO897
@SJO897 2 жыл бұрын
Man, wish you could do a session in Ireland, I’d love to have a legit talk with you about songwriting. Maybe extend it to young kids
@SongWritersChopShop
@SongWritersChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds interesting S.O., what did you have in mind?
@Adrianaboss305
@Adrianaboss305 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this! Your advice is on point.
@ZiggyTheAdventurer
@ZiggyTheAdventurer Жыл бұрын
amazing channel, glad i found it
@angsmft6929
@angsmft6929 Жыл бұрын
awsome i'd glad to see ya video whom can better than teaching you showed that nothing posssiable. it all your
@watchthewindblowby
@watchthewindblowby 6 ай бұрын
Excellent tutorial. Well done. Thank you!
@MinorScalesMajorFuckups
@MinorScalesMajorFuckups Жыл бұрын
wow this definitely exceeded my expectations
@ricktheexplorer
@ricktheexplorer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. WOW!!!!
@blacksheepbill3055
@blacksheepbill3055 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice bud
@glennmorrison7328
@glennmorrison7328 Жыл бұрын
One of the greatest of songwriters Hank Williams read comic books for song inspiration.
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