Watching this podcast again after several years, still great

Favorite part of this is Bruce’s bulldog impression,” they fooked him, they fooked Bret”

"I will never work for WWE again" - Bruce Prichard: December 2017 early 2019/20: working for WWE.

4:09 starts the show... and I ain’t tryin to fook ya eh!

That Randy Savage impersonation was on point.

This is the first real touchy subject where Bruce tows the company line, this doesn’t mean he’s disingenuous, I think he should he worked there. Conrad getting in a few pushes testing his boundaries, I’ve heard a lot of shows on Montreal, this is one of the best, for the Bulldog reaction alone. 5/5

Here you see the class of Undertaker. He gets everyone who didn’t need to be in the dressing room out, and he himself stays out because it had nothing to do with him. Don’t get involved with other people’s shit. Worry about yourself.

Props to Vince for taking the punch like a man.

“they fooked him” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Bruce says Bret was paranoid but also says when Vince had Bret & Shawn on the phone...he,Cornette,Russo were all at Vince’s house and Cornette suggested screwing Bret. Also HHH suggested it. So wasnt Bret justified in being paranoid if you guys are gossiping about how to screw him?

I miss this era of the Podcast. It’s still good but just different.

I was there, live. The crowd knew it was bullshit and everyone was pissed!!!

The only thing I've always wondered about... when it happened, Bulldog and Owen were at Gorilla... but then Hunter comes out to ring... and then he and Shawn come backstage. How did they not pass each other and then why did it take so long for Davey and Owen to make it to ring...

WCW gives Bret all that money to bury him .. incredible

The greatest "work" in the history of the business. Going on 22 years later, and this is still one of the most talked about topics in wrestling. Was brilliantly done, considering every single player came out perfectly. Shawn wins the title, adds to his "bad boy" persona... Bret gets out of a clean loss in Canada, gets his huge payday in WCW... Vince launches his monster heel persona, and sets himself up for years of business as wrestling's biggest (and best) heel performer. Also, Bret just happened to be shooting his "Wrestling with Shadows" doc, so cameras caught all the build-up & aftermath... Took years & years before the participants began to come clean on this thing. Will continue to be a legendary angle for the entire history of pro wrestling.

Brett would have been the best teacher. Maybe wrestlers today would understand in ring psychology today. He was the excellence of execution for a reason. His father trained Brett and Owen plus all his brothers. Brett could have trained countless wrestlers and made them better than they are today.

There really is no good guy in this whole situation. Shawn was spoiled, didn't do business the right way, and did not respect Bret. Vince let Shawn get away with his crap, which planted the seeds of discord. He didn't follow through with commitments he made to Bret, but at least he let him work out a deal with WCW. He only had one way to get the belt off Bret - drop it to Shawn. There were other ways, but he didn't take care of business and left himself no other options. Bret was childish and prideful. Regardless of his behavior, Shawn was tremendous in the ring and in front of the camera and was worthy to win the belt; Bret was trying to settle a score. Vince has the most blame and Bret the least. However, all three of them are probably doing better than anyone commenting, so don't feel too sorry for them.

If I ever interviewed BP this is how I think it would go me: so bruce, who decided to give bret a 20 year contract? BP:Vince me:bruce, who stirred shit between bret and shawn just to up their rivalry in search of ratings leading to shawn refusing to put bret over and bret deciding he would take same stance? BP:vince me: Who then realised they made a mistake and wanted out of contract? BP:vince me: who then decided to put the title on someone he wanted out of company? BP:vince me:who then insisted that bret lose the title to the person who has said he would not do the same? BP:vince me:who agreed to have a creative control clause in the contract for last 30 days should contract be terminated? BP:vince me:and who broke this clause by going against agreed finish? BP:vince me: so bruce, who screwed bret? BP:BRET!!!! I love the podcasts with BP but cant help think is head is still stuck up vince's behind!

This is absolutely fascinating, many thanks.

58:24 never gets old 😂😂

For the love of god Conrad let Bruce finish talking. Quit trying to finish his sentences. You weren't there remember?

Sorry, I realise I could go ahead and listen to the podcast to find out but from the few clips I've listened to it would seem that Conrad isn't the biggest fan of Bret Hart, and that he and Bruce lay at least the majority of the blame on Bret for what happened to him in Montreal. Now whether that is justified or not, I was just wondering if at any point they touch on the incident where HBK told Bret he would never put him over and that therefore it might be understandable that self-respect played a considerable part in what then happened in Montreal? I realise this is a multi-faceted subject but I think it would be wholly wrong to dismiss this fact out of hand.

The irony of this behind this is that this podcast is on the WWE NETWORK and that Bruce said he will never work for the company

You never say never * Bruce is back in WWE*

It will always be suspect why Vince was so crazy in love with pushing Shawn Michaels to the moon. He never drew as the Man.

"bRuCe iS sUcH a LiAr!!1!1 say, when's the next episode?"

That RAW at MSG 1997 wasn't in October, was in September

I stopped watching wrestling right around the time Shawn became the #1 guy. It was news to me he forfeited more of his title belts than he lost in the ring. Sounds like a real classy guy.

I still believe this could have been avoided and worked out. As a wrestling fan, I am glad it happened though.

The superkick on RAW they said didn't air did air on the west coast. I remember it vividly.

Hearing this story from Bruce's side shows many people were unfortunately dragged into the middle of this rivalry.

the episode that made me become a fan of something to wrestle with.......bruce prichard

Younger me sided with Bret, older me sides with Vince.

The Montreal Screwjob: professional wrestling's first ever shoot-work double cross.

Bruce Pritchard sounds so much like Mike Judge. I can't hear his voice without picturing Hank Hill.

Bret was quite happy to drop the belt to Shawn until he disrespected Bret when Bret told Shawn they would be working together and that he would be professional and safe in the ring with Bret. Shawn said that he appreciated that but he wasn’t prepared to reciprocate. After that the gloves were off as far as Bret was concerned. I don’t blame him, I would have done the same thing. I believe it happened like that as well. Bret has never changed his story.

I remember going to a friends house one time. And being jealous as fuck he had diesel and rocky maivia wrestling figures. I Had 100s of them but not those 2

Bret asked Shawn in the locker room after the match if he knew anything about it Shawn swore to God he didn't know. It's on Wrestling with Shadows

They never got to the central issue. Did it make sense to seriously think Bret would take the belt to Nitro and trash talk WWF? That there was a serious chance that would happen? You don't have to be a Bret-is-a-saint type to think that was paranoid. Why the hell couldn't they just let Bret drop or vacate the belt on Raw?

member when Bruce pulled a gun on the writers room hahahaha

So Shawn wants to forfeit the title and its because he takes pride in his work. Bret wants to do the same and its selfish and bad for the business? Double standard?

Bret would have been a phenomenal teacher.....its because of bret we got edge , christian , mark Henry, ken shamrock amoung others ....he could have given so much more if he had stayed with wwe

If it wasn’t for Madusa dropping the women’s championship in the bin on Nitro, there would be no screwjob period. She sowed the seeds of paranoia in Vince that led to al of this

Still come back to listen to this

After watching Dark Side of the Ring, it is now clear that Bruce Prichard lies on these podcasts. So how can we trust anything he says anymore or at all.

Bruce Can't Even Talk With Conrad Interrupting I'm Like Damn

Congrats on 100k subs man.

You would think Vince would have got out of there as soon as possible

I always heard Bret didn't want to lose in Canada

Interesting. Wrestling with shadows suggests taker didn't know because he goes into vince and orders him to go apologise to Brett and explain

I heard thst Owen asked to be released and was 'refused', this interview said all Hart foundation members were offered one?.

Austin did have a submission move, it was the sleeper, remember?

I thought Cornette got the hair and Lawler was in the bathroom stall when the fight happened.

hbk vs hit man survivor series 92 is the most underrated contest between them two they take the best bumps this was the match that I knew these two were going to be wrestlemania main eventing greetings from the best city in the world Buffalo N.Y.

This screwjob made Vince became Mr McMahon and not his issues with Steve Austin. That might have started it but this screwjob did it. The Monday Night War was a really bad time between Vince and Ted Turner. Some good wrestlers were royally screwed in this ratings war. I think Vince was scared Bret was going to pull a Madusa. He might have done it for the boys in the locker room but lets be clear, he was really doing it for himself. The reason why is if that really happened, he would have to go to WCW to get it back and Ted Turner would laugh his ass all the way to the bank. Many people were unfortunately dragged in the middle of this.

What always bugged me about Bret was that he tends to always paint himself as the victim in everything and that he was the squeeky clean hero who everyone except Shawn loved.

Bret got to knock Vince out and Hebner ran but the only thing I ll never understand and that is why in the hell did Bret not beat Shawns ass in the ring or at very least back stage? It was obvious from watching the documentary that Shawn was in on it. Why did Bret let him slide I wonder? Bret still had 30 days on his contract left so plenty of time for him to drop the belt after Montreal. They did fuck Hart badly and its hard for me to believe that Vince still had any respect from the boys after that.

Was there a bigger diva in wrestling at the time than HBK?

The funny thing is this couldn’t have played out better. Say Bret takes sweet chin music in the middle of the ring. No body would have talked about it a week later let alone 20 plus years later

The Montreal screwjob just shows how “professional” both hbk and Bret Hart really were. Bitching about losing to one another and not wanting to lose to each other is ridiculous. Man up, do your job and wrestle each other and leave it in the ring. It shouldn’t matter if you lost to someone before and now you want to beat them! Wrestle , stay healthy and do your job- be a professional and put someone over.

Listening to these old STW podcasts are kinda cringe-y; the ads, the fact that Bruce works for WWE now. Notice how those old Brother Love pictures are edited out of these videos in 2021.

Hulk Hogan: The Face of the New Generation

Most people say HBK is better cause he was in the minds of every wrestling fan for a long time. After the Montreal Screw Job you never saw The Hitman and forgot about how great of a wrestler he was, unless you went and saw tapes of his matches from pre Montreal Screw Job. IMO they're both equally talented.

Dosent Steve Austin have the million dollar dream for a submission?

Great episode!

Documentaries are in favor of those that make them Bruce? Like Self-Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior?

That ending tho!!! 😂 #bretscrewedbret

Love Bret, absolute mark for him. But, he was wrong. However, Vince let it get to that point. And he didnt have too.

To all the people parroting Vince McMahon’s “Bret screwed Bret” line, you’re wrong. Here’s why you’re wrong. If you want to remain in ignorance and keep believing WWE’s lies that’s your choice. If you want to know the reality of what happened on November 9, 1997 read on. First, it was explicitly written in Bret Hart’s 20-year WWF contract (signed in October 1996) that “all match finishes in the last 30 days of Bret Hart’s WWF career MUST be agreed upon by both Vince McMahon and Bret Hart”. It was Vince McMahon who breached the contract he agreed to and signed. It was also Vince McMahon who on September 22, 1997 (less than 1 year into the 20-year contract) told Bret Hart that he couldn’t afford pay him and that he was going to intentionally breach Bret Hart’s 20-year contract. It was Vince McMahon who told Bret Hart to go to WCW. Vince McMahon said that he needs Bret to leave the WWF and that Bret should try to get the best deal he can from WCW. Vince then lied on the November 17, 1997 episode of Raw by saying “Bret sold out” and “Bret left for the money” when Bret had taken LESS money to STAY in the WWF in October 1996. As for the Survivor Series, it was Vince McMahon and Shawn Michaels who went against the agreed upon match finish. The the match was supposed to end in a double DQ. That was what was agreed upon by Bret Hart, Vince McMahon, and Shawn Michaels. Lastly and most importantly Bret Hart had already fulfilled all of his contractually obligated dates for the calendar year 1997 before Survivor Series. He had worked something like 270 days before the Survivor Series in Montreal, which was far more than he was contractually obligated to do. To put it simply Bret Hart didn’t even have to APPEAR at the Survivor Series PPV in Montreal. He could’ve simply handed the championship belt over to Vince McMahon the morning of the PPV said “F you”, no-showed the Survivor Series, and there would be absolutely nothing Vince McMahon could’ve done about it because Bret Hart was within his legal rights. Bret Hart could’ve screwed Vince McMahon as well as the WWF and he would be within his full legal rights to do so. Bret Hart didn’t do that because he was a man of his word. He had honor. He respected Vince McMahon and the company he had spent the last 14 years of his life breaking his back for. Bret didn’t want to screw the WWF. He simply wanted to leave with dignity and not put over a man who told him to his face “I will never put you over even if you do it for me”. Bret Hart worked for FREE that night in Montreal and Vince McMahon repaid him by not only screwing him in front of the whole world in his own home country but by also going on Raw to verbally bury Bret Hart’s legacy in an lie-filled interview with Jim Ross as well as approving a skit that featured Shawn Michaels bringing out a midget dressed as Bret Hart to reenact the the Montreal Screwjob. These are the FACTS. Stop eating up the garbage lies that WWE has been spouting for the last 25 years and DO YOUR RESEARCH. All of this was covered extensively by the November 17, 1997 issue of Dave Meltzer’s Wrestling Observer.

I thought Stone Cold always had the Texas Cloverleaf submission

Everybody keeps telling you Conrad and you aren't listening. Can you let the person who was there actually answer the question

Same thing happened with The Mountie. In Canada he didn't do that gimmick and was a face by default.

As an adult,I now believe the screwjob was a work. It was the only way the match could end and everybody win. Bret was able to go to WCW with momentum and fans feeling like he’d been screwed by the other promotion. It gave Shawn MAJOR heat as the new heel champion and also in Canada. And it created heat for Vince to now see him as the authority figure and build toward he & Austin.

27:20-But Bret’s not doing the time-honored tradition when HE wants to do the same thing!

Imagine if they kept Bret......NXT would probably be Brets baby

Was shawn happy that Bret hart was leaving

Turns out Prichard was pretty accurate with his account as Bret confirmed on the Broken Skull sessions that it was indeed only 1 punch and Vince did indeed go down. So for any of the other Wrestling journalists like Meltzer to say other wise is complete crap. The rumor that it was Undertaker who went and got Vince to confront Bret because he was so appalled by what happened is indeed true as this was confirmed by both Steve Austin and Bret Hart. Undertaker kicked a trash can out of anger. I guess it wasn't as "magical" as the dirstsheets made it out to be.

Cornette has shawns hair in a ziplock bag at his ex wifes hair

Let Bruce talk!!!!!! Conrad you do not to Chime in all the God damn time!!!!!

I'm just here to say, "BRET SCREWED BRET!!!!" Ol boy couldn't differentiate between real life and wrestling, took himself waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too seriously, refused to do the right thing, and subsequently got what he deserved. What made his ass think he was all that? Should've went to Vince, told him I don't deserve $1.5 million a year, I'm nothing without you, let's renegotiate and find a solution because WCW is NOT going to know how to use me effectively.

27:40 i was 13/14 so what the hell do I know but it seemed like Shawn forfeiting the title was the better choice. Def more dramatic

I just cut the stinkiest fart that has ever been cut by anyone in history

Why does Connor care so much about what the wrestlers got paid?? Hes obsessed with that. Is he a member of the ummmm... CHOSEN people by chance??

Evertime i hear someone mention sid. My brain skips to Nash spoof.

Good podcast

Conrad = Mark. It was like Conrad was forcing his conspiracy theories that he had heard over the years.

25:28 that's incorrect. It was a good story with stone cold looking dominant. But like, 75% of the entrants got zero reaction. And a lot weren't even part of the WWF

Bret,...that don't work for me brother!

Let him finish God damn

Good Lord, he sounds just like Macho Man 😮

Shawn Michaels is prideful about his matches. Ppl expect to see shawn at his best when they come to see him... that's why he sabotaged his match with Hogan. Right? Bunch of bullshit.

Conrad Let Bruce Talk Damn

I've heard it was the biggest cluster fuck in the history of cluster fucks.

No way was Vince gonna let Owen out of his contract. Bruce is full of shit.

Russo sounds more believable in telling vince to be heel Bruce sounds more like his Jerry Jarrett impression in regards to what he said in it.

It would be nice if Conrad could stop interrupting Bruce so frequently during these interviews.

So after this it catapulted to the attitude era?

The thing is all these so called wrestling visionaries never realised, and I still think don’t realise how bad the Montreal screw job was for the wrestling industry. It was the single most damaging scandals to happen to wrestling. They fucked themselves, fans never looked at wrestling the same way after this happened.

Wish Conrad would just stfu sometimes and let Bruce (who was there) tell his story.

They fooked him -Davey