Subaru Timing Belt After 106,000 Miles | What Does It Look Like?

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Subaru Timing Belt After 106,000 Miles | What Does It Look Like?

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What Does A Subaru Timing Belt Look Like After 106k Miles...? Is it necessary to replace the bearings? We'll find out. (I'm sorry but the tensioner is no longer available.)
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@aratneerg1375 4 жыл бұрын

Im in new zealand. The automatic tensioner from gates says made in canada on it! I hope Canadians make good tensioners aye!

@claypratt220 6 жыл бұрын

I am doing the timing belt, idlers, tensioner, water pump and taking it a few steps deeper. It seems everyone who does these video's on this job fails to cover the oil pump issue. Yesterday I pulled my oil pump and the O-ring and main seal were still good but two of the screws in the steel back plate were loose and one had backed out 1/16th of an inch. Be sure and pull the oil pump when you do this job every time. New O-ring, New Main Seal. Clean the pump and housing really well. I used Super Clean, rinsed it well with hot water and heated the oven to 250 to finish thoroughly drying it. Reassemble with "Ultra Grey Advanced Formula Maximum Torque Gasket Maker" on the oil pump sealing surfaces and "Blue Loctite" on all internal and external fasteners. I also use Blue Loctite on the water pump fasteners and all other fasteners as I reassemble things. Keep in mind: Blue loctite $6 O-ring $5 Main Seal $10 Advanced Grey Gasket Maker (Large Calking style tube) $20 So for about $40 additional dollars over all the other work you just did you can take the final step in making sure the job lasts for 100K Miles. If your low rpm oil pressure goes it's all gotta come back apart.

@robertgary3561 3 жыл бұрын

Also always make sure to do the head gasket while you are there or you’ll be doing it again. Subaru head gaskets are only good for about 100,000 miles.

@82dupont 3 жыл бұрын

Your original video is awesome, I purchased the TKF-011 Aisin kit, for my 2007 Subaru Legacy with 2.5 N/A EJ engine. It has 140,000 and belt has never been changed. I’m doing it next week after I get all my parts. $300 for Kit includes water pump.

@ruizhou9612 4 жыл бұрын

FYI I did a 2011 OB with 167K miles on it, belt had no flaws, same bearing as yours had that noise, tensioner had some grease around the edges. Where I did find problems was the V belt (Serpentine) as one idler had slop in it and the tensioner had spin noise. The hardest part was the Cam shaft pulley which I bought the special wrench tool for. That made that much easier. My waterpump looked new no issues- like you I changed it anyway. ONE thing those with higher mileage Subaru's need to check is their rocker cover spark plug seals. Mine were hard as a rock with massive amounts of oil into the spark plug seats. The plugs looked ok (changed at 100K) but that oil was inside the coils and really could have caused an ignition problem or breakdown. That job was a bigger pain in the butt than the Timing belt job. The key to removing the drivers side Rocker cover was to unbolt the engine mount to slightly jack up the engine so the cover could be removed.

@davidooch 5 жыл бұрын

I did a timing belt job on my 08 legacy at 100,000 miles. Someone working in advance auto parts insisted that all I need to do is replace the belt, he said that the bearings and water pump and tensioner will last 200,000 miles. I just did the timing job again at 200,000 miles. So it was true the only thing that needed to be replaced at 100,000 was the belt.

@chrisj197438 4 жыл бұрын

D N You actually trusted your engine to an idiot at Advance Auto? Go buy lottery tickets dude you are very lucky.

@philnguyen6376 Жыл бұрын

My 2004 Subaru Forester S ran to 200 KM with original belt. I sprayed belt conditioner in it until the tensioner malfunctioned. It did not destroy the engine. I put the new kit in and it runs again. The timing belt can outlast the water bump and tensioner, pulleys.

@spankeyfish 6 жыл бұрын

For people replacing the tensioner, I'm willing to bet that the bearing will start to fail long before the hydraulics do and it should be possible to remove the pulley and press the bearing out of it. It'll be a standard metric size and load rating and there's probably a number stamped or lasered onto it that you can identify it from.

@robertgary3561 4 жыл бұрын

I pulled one at 200,000 miles. Everything looked good except for some slight surface cracking on the back of the belt.

@CarsNToys 4 жыл бұрын

Wow! That's impressive.

@kevinkaiser920 3 жыл бұрын

good to know, my forester is at 160,000 with the original belt and from what i can see on it, it still looks good. But i should probably play it safe and replace it soon

@jerrybartlett1142 3 жыл бұрын

@@kevinkaiser920 mine blew at 152 thousand pully seized ate the tooth off belt ....95so non interference :)

@marcelolima4172 2 жыл бұрын

@@jerrybartlett1142 hi there mine 2010 forester ej 25 broke the belt last week. What are the chances of nothing bad happened?

@stephenhunt6253 4 жыл бұрын

I did a head-gasket job last year and the owner said he'd paid a shop to do a new timing belt within the last year. When I had the engine apart, yep, the timing belt was indeed new, but ALL the bearings were original (and in horrible shape)! Yeeeesh.

@billsafreed3735 5 жыл бұрын

Just replaced the belt on my '10 Forester w/ 220,000 miles. It looked like a new one (never replaced before). Replaced oil pump and water pump while I was in there.

@Rockin_Ross 5 жыл бұрын

Good stuff here. Just got me an ‘06 Outback and the alternator and A/C belts are new. When I asked about the timing belt, he didn’t know. So out comes the radiator, pulleys and cover just to check it. If I go that far, I’ll just change it all out. Like you said, “Better safe than sorry.” Great video man.

@hubster4477 5 жыл бұрын

Doesn't that have a chain?

@Rockin_Ross 5 жыл бұрын

Hubster No. Suby didn’t do a chain in the 2.5 Outback line until 2013. The H6 motor had one for a long time, but not the 4.

@GNX157 5 жыл бұрын

On the water pump, it would of been cool if you could press it apart and check how far the two halves of the rubber shaft seal have worn, compared to a new one. Usually the bearings last long due to the belt tension being kept well under control, but the two seals are pressed together by a spring and gradually wear down based on spin amount plus friction depending on how good the coolant is. Sometimes you find out by replacing a radiator cap that can now hold 15-17# but not that old water pump seal, so it starts leaking.

@45AMT 5 жыл бұрын

The cogged pulley by the water pump usually seems to wear the fastest.

@intraaudit 5 жыл бұрын

Yep, mine when spun was screaming like a banshee. It seems that the problem is not the belt per se but the pulley/s, especially the one you mentioned going out and taking the belt with it

@billd3692 7 жыл бұрын

Excellent information. My Honda Accord is approaching 100K and now I'll definitely replace the belt, water pump and bearings.

@JamesLee-oe7mt 6 жыл бұрын

We did a gates kit about 4 years ago in a forester and the pump is already leaking. Going back in with Aisin.

@CarsNToys 6 жыл бұрын

Bummer

@jolisadillard7568 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you because I am doing the replacement because of the water pump

@CarsNToys 6 жыл бұрын

Glad to help.

@poikaa3 6 жыл бұрын

I changed a belt (09 Forester 2.5l) with 116k miles and it has stopped running at idle! 20 teeth were gone and the belt had fissures and cracks on the smooth side with the remaining teeth very shallow. We dodged a bullet as the valves were fine and the car runs better than ever! Follow the manufacture's suggestion even changing it early.... say 90k miles

@CarsNToys 6 жыл бұрын

Fortunately newer Subaru's no longer use a belt.

@jonny1943 6 жыл бұрын

Yes if you can live with driving Haldex....

@mrcarlo1966 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for your time in making this video. I have a 2011 Subaru Impreza with only 30,000 miles on it. I am wondering if I should do this job now because the car is over 9 years old.Thanks again.

@CarsNToys 4 жыл бұрын

I'd certainly check the condition of the belt - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o7B3nrWamLarf30.html

@bubaba8938 Жыл бұрын

What's your take on dayco belts. Are timing belts needed to be replaced after 7 years even if they made only 30 miles?

@microbus99 3 жыл бұрын

I would have replaced the water pump AND the thermostat. You're right there. Why not?! Its probably less than 10 bucks

@billmalec 2 жыл бұрын

Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics did that video you referenced.

@fastmtnbiker 6 жыл бұрын

I need that tensioner....trying to get a 2000 outback going again. Owned by a former student of mine and we're going to do the timing belt. Let me know if you still have it.

@tedmalley7636 4 жыл бұрын

I owned a 2016 Impreza sedan..that Flat 4 had a timing chain.

@CarsNToys 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, all modern Subaru models employ a timing chain. I believe they switched to chain around 2012.

@23hublock1 3 жыл бұрын

It was the other guys video that bought me here!

@SamCyanide 6 жыл бұрын

lol I know exactly what it looks like because I just finished replacing everything for mine an hour ago :)

@johnathansmith3819 4 жыл бұрын

I appreciate your video; thanks. I have an "Check Engine" idiot light, in my 2002 Forester, with 202.000 miles in it (yeah, I know...). The analyzer tells me "Knock Sensor". I did replace sparks (3 years old), and its PCV. I can't remove the knocking sensor (risk to brake its bolt; frozen solid), but I hear "noises" at acceleration (;ole pinging, or the ball bearing in the PCV rattling, kind of). Could it be that the Timing Belt has a slack? Your insight and/or suggestions would be much appreciated; I am a retired person with limited income, mind you... Thanks.

@NorthernRailsTrainsInTheNorth 5 жыл бұрын

Stupidly took mine to 170 thousand miles cause i never even thought of the timing belt till it was brought up to me. She was pretty cracked and split in most parts of the belt, definetly a ready to let go any moment situation.

@Dreccomel193 7 жыл бұрын

Very cool, you answer my question without knowing thanks for sharing...

@CarsNToys 7 жыл бұрын

Glad to help.

@marcelolima4172 2 жыл бұрын

What are the chances of nothing bad happened after a 2010 forester broke the timing belt running @ 60 miles ?

@lawrencecavens5760 3 жыл бұрын

what was the mileage that you replaced the belt - me coming from Canada, I think we do ours at 100,000 Km - does that sound right or being U.S that would in turn be 100,000miles which in translation be 160,000km ???

@littlestinker9716 6 жыл бұрын

Since you mentioned it in your video, the Gates kit for Subaru is full of Chinese parts now. Buyer beware.

@CarsNToys 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@poikaa3 6 жыл бұрын

I used a gates kit and the belt is made in the USA but all the pulleys are made in China. I checked them carefully with the originals, they had some differences but where the same where it counts! The Forester is running perfect!

@blazetownsend8785 6 жыл бұрын

Not full of, just got one for a 2002. There were 2 parts in that kit. My pre 2000 subaru had no chinese parts.

@Canuckrz 6 жыл бұрын

The original part numbers now have Chinese bearings and tensioners. However there are new part numbers now with an N on the end of them that have all Japanese bearings and tensioner like they use to have.

@yaheng 3 жыл бұрын

My 2010 impreza only has 96000KM now. Can I wait for more couple years to change it?

@45AMT 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the part numbers Those should help save some $ for the exact same parts. Thumbs up!!

@mkrp4 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry for late comment, it is imperative to cheek the source you buying the parts from to avoid cheap imitations (aka counterfeit parts) !

@jjseandxcefree 6 жыл бұрын

I really hope you can help. I bought a used subu with 80miles. 2008 model. Is there any way to "eyeball" on whether or not the timing belt was changed without removing half the engine? The orig owner is not reachable.

@CarsNToys 6 жыл бұрын

Try this - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o7B3nrWamLarf30.html

@tomtafola4518 3 жыл бұрын

Do you still have the parts available I am interested on them by the way I really like your videos I own a 1999 Subaru Forster would this parts fit on my model

@IAMshredrmk 6 жыл бұрын

4 Subi's and never had a water pump fail. I hope I didn't jinx myself here...

@CarsNToys 6 жыл бұрын

They're beautifully made.

@TomIves-KingstonWorkshop- 3 жыл бұрын

What engine was this bro? I'm about to do my 2.5 boxer. It was changed 7 years ago at 50k and it's now on 80k. I guess the 7 year old belt, although it's only done 30k, that's 30 hard k too, should be changed... But should I keep the tensioner and water pump. They are 7 years old but have only done 30k.... Any advice gratefully received.

@CarsNToys 3 жыл бұрын

2.5 as well, from a 2010 Impreza. I feel more comfortable replacing the parts vs reusing. Cheers.

@hermesalejandrocerdenia1153 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Thank u for sharing.

@sergiodesantis7383 4 жыл бұрын

Are all these parts also for 2010 Impreza WRX DOHC turbo?

@KUBBI7488 5 жыл бұрын

How much does all parts cost? I just bought 12 impreza for my daughter with 65 k miles

@ferasara5130 6 жыл бұрын

Could you still see the timing marks??

@CarsNToys 6 жыл бұрын

They were incredibly faint.

@purpledoge4466 4 жыл бұрын

You can also grease the bearings with mobil one synthetic hight temp grease

@robertgary3561 4 жыл бұрын

Кайена Арельяно they’re sealed bearings.

@johnnydoggs 5 жыл бұрын

Genius video! Thanks!

@rygelraimie1994 7 жыл бұрын

On that tensioner part, cant you just replace the bearing also? I see there's a bolt attached to it.

@CarsNToys 7 жыл бұрын

I'm afraid not. It's all one unit.

@birdwing98 5 жыл бұрын

There is a small tag on the bolt that says, "Do Not Remove Under Penalty of Law."

@djorkode1 7 жыл бұрын

Great video as always! Replaced my spark plugs the other day, they were all soaked in engine oil, all 4 of them. There's also oil leak all over the lower part of the engine. The dealer said I need the head gaskets replaced. Do you have any head gaskets replacement in the works? The car has 102k miles and it's a 08 impreza. Thanks in advance

@djorkode1 7 жыл бұрын

noventay4 I did not abuse to car at all, I changed the oil every 5k miles. Don't let your assumptions over take you.

@CarsNToys 7 жыл бұрын

I'm afraid not. However, briansmobile1 has a number of excellent Subaru videos. I remember viewing one in which he replaces the head gasket.

@djorkode1 7 жыл бұрын

CarsNToys okay, thank you

@IAMshredrmk 6 жыл бұрын

If the oil was on the outside of the plugs where the wires connect to them it's the cam cover seals.

@nicam49 4 жыл бұрын

@@IAMshredrmk Thanks! Ive just replaced my EJ201 spark plugs and 3 out of 4 were covered in oil the same.I'll check out those cam cover seals.

@MatthewChidester 6 жыл бұрын

I know this is an older video but I drive a 92 subaru svx.. On original timing belt/tensioner at 40k..have you ever heard of people recommending replacement due to age/years instead of mileage.. I'm thinking of changing mine.

@CarsNToys 6 жыл бұрын

Yes. Have you inspected the belt?

@MatthewChidester 6 жыл бұрын

CarsNToys I haven't yet :/ the previous owner had all mechanical records and I never saw it done.. I'll crack it open and see but yeah lots of people say it's easy and I've done radiator changes, brake changes but I've never attempted a timing belt change :/ hope I can do it (trying to avoid stealerships) thanks for the answer

@CarsNToys 6 жыл бұрын

Glad to help. Take your time & you'll be fine.

@redneckhippiefreak 4 жыл бұрын

It's very impornen that you say RIP ears at the end. GOD DAMN..that was loud.

@user-qb7qg2pp6w 4 жыл бұрын

I want the used belt for a diagnosic tool, my belt broke at start up and I want the belt to see if valves got bent. if not I will buy a kit and replace the components , but if valves are bent I am going to scrap car,

@CarsNToys 4 жыл бұрын

Hope the valves (and pistons) are in good shape!

@nicam49 4 жыл бұрын

I thought that the boxer engine is a non-interference type, meaning no damage if/when timing belt snaps.

@nnr3 4 жыл бұрын

Did replacing all those improve the idle smoothness?

@CarsNToys 4 жыл бұрын

In my case, no. Check the PCV Valve. The rubber hose often fails. If you need a guide - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j6l_qLer2rfQcYk.html

@jacksgarage2925 7 жыл бұрын

Some cars they recommend replacing timing belt every 80 or 60 thousand miles. If they told customers that these timing belt cars are high maintenance, nobody would buy them. Especially when timing chain cars go over 250 or 300 hundred thousand miles. Overall timing belt engines are higher maintenance and I try to avoid. I've seen VW toss a belt at 78k miles. Subaru are rare around here and dealers are only in big cities, 80 to 100 miles away. While GM, Ford, Chrysler, Toyota, and Nissan have dealerships everywhere. I have seen a few SUBARUs, but they come into the shop from interstate on tow truck and most need major engine repair or a new motor. SUBARUs main selling point is all wheel drive which isn't needed in the south, but Subaru high $$$$$$

@CarsNToys 7 жыл бұрын

I agree. I prefer vehicles with timing chains.

@Nvp8985 7 жыл бұрын

CarsNToys one of the first questions I asked before buying my fb20 Subaru Impreza 2013. A chain finally instead of a belt. Great video as always!

@cpmethod2 6 жыл бұрын

I purchased this kit on Amazon for my 2011 Subaru Outback 2.5i Premium. Aisin TKF-006 Engine Timing Belt Kit with New Water for $202.00 It came with everything mentioned except the new thermostat. Awesome deal. Going to to do the Engine Valve Cover, PCV Valve, Spark plugs as well. I'm at 103k miles. I'm the original owner. Go Subaru! www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CMWCP5M/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

@CarsNToys 6 жыл бұрын

Good stuff!

@thegoonspot 6 жыл бұрын

Its been recommended to get the Subaru OEM thermostat

@antonshadyrya2088 7 жыл бұрын

Did you buy the belt/tensioner/water pump from dealer?

@CarsNToys 7 жыл бұрын

Amazon

@pdm3kw1 6 жыл бұрын

Wow metal impeller

@CarsNToys 6 жыл бұрын

Not bad eh?

@Nanokillaz 6 жыл бұрын

Would you recommend that the timing belt be changed based on age also or mileage?

@CarsNToys 6 жыл бұрын

I just follow what the manufacturer recommends. They all have their own guidelines when to change the belt. Some go by mileage, others by years and mileage.

@lorrinbarth1969 6 жыл бұрын

Subaru is both, mileage and/or years. For my WRX, if I never drive it, six years of sitting in the garage and it needs a new belt.

@xht033 4 жыл бұрын

@@lorrinbarth1969 I don't agree, if not driving, no heat can destroy the belt. Also no uv. I think 10 years sitting is safe.

@konvesna 5 жыл бұрын

Wow i europ we must change IT in 110kkm itnid ~~60k miles and IT is baad

@larrytomlin964 6 жыл бұрын

For more Gates kits detail see Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics video. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bdeJoLGJtM7Sj6M.html

@CarsNToys 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the link.

@adrianlastname4864 6 жыл бұрын

stop diagnosing bearings without any load on them

@Mark-wy1ux 6 жыл бұрын

If a bearing doesn't spin freely without load, applying a load to it won't matter one bit.

@FrenchValleyAirport 6 жыл бұрын

especially how you can hear the innards making a metallic noise while spinning, a new fully greased bearing is silent. Applying a load just makes it worse in any scenario regarding bearings.

@d.powers3428 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry to say given the application small bearings can be easily checked for serviceability. This can be true for large bearings requiring forced lubrication.

@KUBBI7488 5 жыл бұрын

I would replace it at 120 K miles at least ! 106 still too early !

@CarsNToys 5 жыл бұрын

It certainly was in pretty good shape. Subaru recommends replacement at 105k. (2010 Impreza) A timing belt is something I don't want to push my luck with.