Absolutely agree. If it's something that may have to be adjusted while moving, it needs a real button.

@@jamesf7222 There is no reason you need to adjust the hvac while moving. I have the '22 wrx, great car. I set the hvac to my liking before I pull out of my garage.

This is what everyone says until they use it

@@steve8803 nonsense. As if the climate and/or body basal temperature does not change while traveling over distance and activity (e.g. vigorous shifting of a MT or vigorous thinking). IQ much? And it’s not just about safety when driving, but also just convenience. I do not want to have to scroll around and fight with a touchscreen. With a knob I do not even need to look at it, and it is direct access by feel. Men who make excuses for this crapification of our modern vehicles really piss me off. Effeminate worthless p.o.s..

@@Anonymint-vj7bt ok darling

It is

Yeah, a lesser one.

Care to elaborate or just a 4 word troll?

@@CHICOZTACOS Mazda 3 hands down.

@@CHICOZTACOS How so?

It would be the modern Mazdaspeed. Tuners rejoice.

I like were your going, as a former 2nd gen speed3 owner but Mazda said Mazdaspeed is gone to make Mazda more upscale. The turbo3 is much quicker than most realize and the AWD comes into it's own when the weather gets worse. In sport mode it shifts much quicker and you kinda have a override with the paddles you just have to learn the timing of the delay when the trans downshifts for power. Whats awesome is the slight performance boost when you use premium fuel. when gas is cheaper you can have more fun when it goes up you go back to regular. But yes what you describe would have been AWESOME!

That's perfect for car enthusiasts but terrible for Mazda. Suppose Mazda slashes 5k from the outgoing one for a "barebones" turbo, it still has to compete with cars that has most/all those features as standard. The past decade taught us that gizmos sells cars, not driving enhancements - at least in the US/Canada. And since Mazda is trying hard to go upscale and give the tech-riddled Germans a bloody nose, I doubt such a proposal will even get past the discussion phase.

This was a trim option but it’s no longer available for 2024. It was just called Mazda3 Turbo vs Turbo Premium Plus as seen in the video. The new Carbon Turbo is a good deal tbh, only comes in one color but it’s like 33/34 msrp

I disagree in regards to the speakers. The sound quality would have to be good

So you owned a 2022 WRX then bought a 2023 Mazda3? I don’t think so.

@@ubroberts5541 Right? lol

You didn't "literally" own them. That doesn't even mean anything.

Went Sti so these don't even compare 😅.

Yeeah, particularly when the 2007 wrx sti dropped, It was so stunning 🤩. The new wrx looks great in person vs pictures and media. I grew up with Subaru wrc rally photos all over my wall, always wanted a wrx. But somehow I ended up with a 2019 Mazda 3 liftback oddly. The Mazda was more affordable for me and seemed like I could take care it of better financially with my current employment.

Which limitations specifically annoy you most? For me the main one would probably be the lack of physical controls for the HVAC.

Id say interior quality, ride quality, and fuel economy are the main drawbacks. Everything else I've gotten used to. I think the hvac works fine, the media stuff is fine. These are nitpicks, it's a great economy sports sedan for the money or otherwise.

@@bryanrubino3681 if you would like to continue the discussion, I have some additional thoughts. For me the interior quality could be better, but I figure if I decide it’s for keeps, then I will customize it easily just take it to a company that can wrap plastic in leather. Maybe i would prefer a different look for the shape of the dash (e.g. love the 11th-gen Civic minimalist, Porsche-like, retro muscle car dash design), but its not my primary goal in terms of a 4-door, AWD capable, tunable sports/rally car that can also be a daily. Actually my utmost complaint is there is not a fastback lift gate like in the Type R, old Mustangs and 1985 Celica/Supra. I do not like aesthetically & for visibility of the bulbous SUV styling with a (near) vertical rear window such as the older/current Impreza or Mazada 3. I prefer to keep the sedan lines with a fastback such as also in the Audi A5/S5/RS5 Sportback. Also the styling of the rear of the WRX is off from some angles, but I did not mention it because I think it can be fixed with a redesign of the rear bumper and tail lights. I do not mind customizing my vehicles, so that could be a significant difference in prioritization. Most people do not want to hurt the resale value. Any ICEVs I buy for keeps now will be for the rest of my life (age 58 now). They will not be making ICEVs anymore after 2028. Will be all hybids and EVs.

@@bryanrubino3681 I do not know what is your preference or goal with the ride quality but as you probably know it is a tradeoff with performance. Again I can customize this, and I would not want a sloppy/non-sport-handling, metro-refined yuppie “soccer mom” SUV-like vehicle which is what the Mazada 3 and its bulbous yet squatted SUV tail end represent to me. Also visibility is excellent in the WRX and Type R, unlike in more vertical rear window and squatted roof line of the crossover style. My point is there are things which can not be easily customized such as the SUV-like shape of a vehicle. Yet if you are like most people who want to keep your vehicles bone stock, then the ability to customize and tune would not apply. HVAC “works fine” (i.e. essentially functionality, at least when the infotainment screen does not seize up due to the numerous bugs in Subaru software) except I much prefer the tactical feel and the immediacy of being able to spin a dial like in the prior generation (which I have in my 2014 Forester also). Wading through menus is not what I want from a vehicle. I want to operate machine, not a computer. I am a computer programmer by profession, so I am on the computer 14 by 7 and my vehicle should be an escape from digital screens.

@@bryanrubino3681 Fuel economy is a non-factor entirely IMO as long as it is not in the teens. If I can not afford the looming astronomical price per gallon then I should get a 40 mpg Versa or 50+ mpg Prius hybrid, otherwise it is just genuflecting at the meaningless margins. We should not try to own what we can not afford.

I’d probably gun for an SI if I was comparing those three, something that may happen in the spring if Honda gets out another press car in my region!

I would watch for Motor Trend's or other end of the year, comparison of all available sedans of this type, if it were I.

You can't turn it off?

@@gabejohnson3522 luckily you can so i just activate the adaptive cruise .

The WRX can easily be made into a “sportier” car with the huge aftermarket. Not so much with the Mazda.

The wrx can definitely be considered a sportcar unlike the Mazda

It mimics a traditional auto better than anything else I’ve driven but she does revert to factory settings if you pin it from a stop😂

To me a CVT is like mock chicken....a resemblance of the real thing. NOT the real thing. LMAO Cheers. Keep the vids coming ;-) @@Realistick

Two more asides... Price to performance, the 3 Turbo is a better direct comparator to the Legacy Sport. Nice amenities with very comparable performance at about the same price. Question is how big of a car do you need... Second aside, people living away from the city should note that the Mazda has a (in my opinion) small gas tank. A full tank gets me just about 260 miles, maybe a little less. Not sure what the WRX has but my Outback and Forester had substantially larger tanks.

Subarus tank is bigger but fuel economy quite a bit different than Mazda, AND must run on premium.

I have a cx30 e-skyactiveX manual 186 hp and it's fantastic.

Okay metro sexuals.

You should watch some drag races stock for stock. The Mazda wins in a straight line.

It can be challenging for drivers in other cars to read it.

I think people only hate on the high trims for the wrx

It does have it and I never said otherwise. I’m sitting in a 24 Impreza right now (upcoming video), the UI is not the problem, it’s the response time, brightness and the partial embedding of hvac controls into the screen.

@@Realistick I re-watched, and the key word you said was 'wireless', and I missed that. I apologize, I was wildly incorrect myself.

@@matthewwain9958 no worries, have a nice week!

Congrats! That's a phenomenal price for the premium.

Sorry to hear you have to drive a cvt

Waiting for the 24 refresh to hit and then I’ll pester Hyundai!

@@Realistick Thank you! You have one of the better and more grounded takes on everyday cars like Alex on Autos. TSP has been spoiled with too many supercars and I feel like they're out of touch now, even SavageGeese to an extent :(

@@perfectperfecto Thanks! I’m still a big savage geese fan, it’s just surprisingly difficult to find an abundance of normal press cars, I’m hoping I can keep a nice balance on the channel.

Golf R?

With the Elantra N a FWD car, I ruled it out pretty quickly in my search. I don't understand why you have all that power and no AWD option.

The WRX is by far a much better car in the winter than the Mazda 3 AWD. I initially looked into the Mazda 3 AWD because I came from a regular FWD Mazda 3, but as you said, the AWD type is still FWD-biased. It performs okay in the snow, but there literally is no better AWD car in the winter than the WRX. Even chain control people in bad weather conditions will give you a nod and let you pass through since they know what’s up.

Tbh I own a AWD Mazda 3 turbo and live in one of the snowiest cities in the US (buffalo,NY) we avg about 95”/yr and I’ve never had a problem. I’ve driven in storm systems with up to 2 feet of snow and i walk through it.

That's not to say I would willingly buy a Subaru. I'd probably just get the Mazda 3 FWD na model with the manual. Lol

My mid trim wrx was under $30k usd converted from cad. At $50k I wouldn’t even go look at them.

Which vehicle?

@@daweigo6851 WRX GT

Tell your wife to not max out the options without knowing what she's buying. Base is low 30k. Limited is higher 30ks. It's on her if she's adding every option.

Trade-in the wench for the MT.

Thanks!

Maybe you need a Kia.😅😅😅😅

A valid concern, though I hardly ever push cars above 4k rpm if they’re new. For this one, I thought people may want to know the numbers so I did one acceleration test where they spent a few seconds above it. The main reason why you want to avoid high rpms is to keep the engines from getting too hot. Savage Geese did a great video on break-ins with a corvette engineer who verbatim said that a 0-60 run is not going to hurt the engine but track driving and excessive heat can cause problems for the bearings when it’s not broken in. Using cruise control at constant rpms can also be bad for it too. Still, I hear you and don’t want to spook anyone so I seldom do these anymore unless it’s used or a broken-in service loaner and I’m desperately trying to get more press cars so I can do more thorough testing to begin with.

@@Realistick Man, I had the same sentiment as the OP, but gosh dang it if you didn't actually address the question in an honest and mature way. I wish more people could do this instead of shutting someone down or dancing around the question never actually answering anything. Kudos to you!

Didn't say or vaguely imply that I'd prefer an electronic e-brake. Just pointed out that you lose the handbrake with the automatic trans.

That's the only auto they got too offer as alternative to manual. lol

Eventually I’ll get some stuff to spice things up but I do like showing off attainable cars!

I love that this channel focuses on somewhat affordable vehicles.

Mazda 3 is 'not decent' ? The ignorance...

The “ignorance “ is in your statement. No facts, just trolling.

Because it fits the technical definition of the term. Above average performance. Average = Toyota Corolla, Honda Civic.

When the wrx debuted in 1992, 240 hp compact sedan was fast and stood out against 75hp corollas and even 102hp Imprezas. Sadly Subaru hasn’t really improved the wrx engine much since then.

It goes 0-60 in 5.5 seconds, has a 6 speed manual, awd. Its engine can be tuned to 400hp very easily with min mods. It’s cheap in base trim.

And in base trim it looks cheap.

Because a few bolt-ons (even just an intake) and a tune will already bump you up to 320-350whp/wtq on pump gas. With E85, even bigger gains. The engine is rated to around 500 whp/wtq before things start to break. Can anyone post some numbers for a modded Mazda 3?

It's a loaded, awd, comfortable and quick hatchback. I'd say it's pricey but easily justifies the cost! An Acura integra with similar features is quite a bit slower without AWD and the WRX shown was $45k (that one was hard for me to stomach)

Neither are sports cars. They are sporty economy cars with decent levels of performance. The Subaru due to the CVT seems even more of an economy choice, not that Mazda is better with a traditional automatic.