Yesss and they thought by earning his position they'd earn his love

Well said. They were never invited to the adult table.

No, they played that game with him before. Shiv can even guess what he's gonna say.

We never see each of them (besides Connor) really working at their office. Mostly, they like to walk around, on the meeting, critizise people, and them making chaos. While we see Tom and Greg are mostly on their office tables, working, looking at their computer, typing, checking on the data or whatsoever.

I keep thinking, if we have succession but in the eyes of Gerri, Frank and Karl, how much would we hate the siblings, except for Connor.

​@@leandromadeireira8840Gerri,Frank and Karl were working in the company since the kids were kids, at least since the 90s Karl repeatedly says They meritocratically speaking deserved it more than the kids That is why Tom is perfect for the CEO,a trucker liver out of the mud who by himself reached the top society where he meets Shiv, without having anything at the beginning unlike his wife and brothers

@@iloveads123 yeah true, something that this series had taught me is that, this rich people are not different, or intellectual people, that they want us to believe, shure some may actually have earned they keep, but a lot are just sons of dads and mother's, that the only reason they know so much about finances and etc..., is because they could buy the education for it. This series explained to me why we sometimes saw some ceos doing stupid stuff like in Unity for example, before i though it must have a more complicated reason they don't won't show the public, but now, i know, they just made a stupid mistake. I wouldn't say Tom is perfect, but definitely a better choice than the kids, he doesn't have this ego and will of controlling the company like the others, he will obey the shareholders, and he is actually competent, unlike Romam who fired Gerri, one of the best and most competent works, because of feelings, and Kendall thinking this was a good idea.

Logan was being so disrespectful by interrupting a Celtic song being sung during late night/early drinks

When you think about it, his kids could be the reincarnations of the old guards. Kendall as Frank, Roman as Karl and Shiv as Gerri. But, sadly, none of them fit the criteria of the old guards and all of them are always disrespecting them. Roman always rude to Frank despite Frank is his mentor to be COO and also sexually assaulted Gerri, Shiv is always rude to Gerri despite Gerri is her Godmother, Pretty much all of them always being rude to Karl. But, Kendall is mostly respecting Frank despite all of his flaws.

Ellos lo llamaban así yo creo que envidiaban en el fondo la conexión padre e hijo que ellos jamás experimentaron ni con su mamá también la ignoraban se creían más inteligentes que todos

Whenever we see Connor and Logan are interracting, it's watching casual Son and Father interracting. Connor also treats him with respect and even calling him "Pa" or "Pop". Deep down, Connor still hurts for Logan's neglicence and also for putting his mom on asylum and also makes him being alone since he was a kid. But, Connor learns how to survive with no love for years. Even he said that if Willa doesn't truly love him and just leave him whenever she wants, he's ready. It's also surprising how Connor doesn't go to dark path like being a criminal or even being a drug addict like Kendall with that kind of life.

Conheads arent gonna like this comment.

​@@JoelTrujilloThe thing about Connor is he knew he wasn't "serious" and never jockeyed for position. That's part of why he didn't have any big conflict with his dad until he tried a serious presidential campaign.

I mean Shiv makes it seem like he's done that with them before, saying "I'm surprised he still remembers it".

@@ryanneale6501 that implies that she herself hasnt seen him sing it in a long time. She may have not been privy to many of the times where Logan loosened up like in this scene.

So, Kerri is serious too?

It’s because we always saw him from their perspective and not from an objective viewpoint Logan wasn’t a monster like we all used to think…he was just….a person

​He was indeed a monster. This is a man who did an incredible amount of abuse and crimes without facing the consequences. Let's not pretend he was normal or grey because he had a scene in which he sang. ​@@soroushm2498

Also, Logan is always refused to tell his personal life to his kids because he's ashamed of it until Ewan spoke the facts on his funeral. Logan has too much dignity and pride, he's so out of touch for reality. He's even abandoning his kids to his company because his real kid is the company, his real baby.

Too be fair, whenever we see Logan and Connor are talking, we see the bond between Father and Son and they talk casually like son and father. Meanwhile, Logan treats his other kids mostly like his co-workers and the kids are trying to be polite but they act like smartass most of the time especially how Kendall can be aggresive and cocky, Roman talks dirty and Shiv mostly talks whatever she wants and being too direct. Meanwhile, look at Connor talks to him, he mostly being casual, chill, relax and even calling him "Pa" or "Pop" and Logan mostly way relax with Connor rather than his other kids.

Conor and Logan always talks like Father-Son scenario.

Si me di cuenta cuando Gerry le grita con lo del FBI el solo aceptó lo que dijo no le gritó devuelta jamás y se molestó con Román por mandarle sus cosas a gerry

He was disrespectful to interrupt the Scottish song as it was being sung during drinks, but I suppose it’s a cultural difference in the states that you can do that

In the end the kids are just the kids who are playing outside of their dad's office and also playing toy soldiers. They treat the company as their playground until adulthood.

Great insight and analysis

Also, you notice every time Logan and Connor are interracting, you see a casual Father and Son bonding? Logan mostly always smiling and relaxing whenever he talks with Connor and Connor even call him "Pa" or "Pop". Connor deep down still resents him for neglecting him but he has growing up with no love for years, he's very used to it. He's even said if Willa leaves him for real, he's ready. Meanwhile, for the rest of Logan's kids, all they want to get is his approval. They become aggresive if he doesn't do what they want and throw him under the bus. They all are still children inside adult's body. They are all the kids who's playing outside their dad's office. They also don't like rejection, instead of taking it like real adults, they rebel against him. Connor is the only one who takes rejection kindly but he's never giving up and keep going like how his weird campaign for being the president fail, he later wants to expanse his business on Slovenia.

Except for Connor because Connor has survived of Logan's neglect for a long time and he's not as depressed as the other 3.

Or as adults, they were the real outcasts

Wouldn’t say Connor was his favorite but it was the one he’d want to spend time with. A lot of that had to do with is cause he never tried to betray him or make him look like an idiot on purpose

@@bellabell6659 Connor never tried to pull Logan's rug, so that explains why Logan would rather spend time with Connor rather than with the other three. Probably to make up for the fact that he had Connor's mother institutionalized and was mostly an absent father throughout Connor's childhood. That's why only Connor knew that Logan had purchased the mausoleum while the other three had no clue about it.

Connor was never a threat to him and he's gone enough for him to tolerate.

I think he understood Connor the most because he was the simplest. Connor cared mostly about money and not being involved in the power plays. Logan could talk to him about buying a mausoleum or whatever and not have to worry about Connor using that information against him somehow. The other three wanted power, status, and acceptance from him. None of which he would give willingly. If he told them things he told Connor he’d have to watch his back.

Also, whenever we see Connor and Logan, we see a son and father interract and Logan realized how ignorant he was to Connor so they tried to bond more on adulthood. Meanwhile, most of the time, we see Logan and the other three is talking about work, power and authority but with Connor is like a natural bond. Also, Connor keep calling him "Pa" while the other just "Dad" as the term of endearment. You can see Logan most of the time is happy and relax with Connor. Connor has survived alone with no one on his side even his relationship with Willa is platonic. But, in the end of the day, they support each other. Willa could leave him when he's down and she maybe stays for his money but she understands Connor and his wellbeing.

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What does that mean ? I am Catholic but didn't get it

@@marykay7878 Back before Kennedy proved that Catholics could win national office a common attack leveled at Catholics running for national office was that they would be loyal to the Pope above America, so it’s funny to hear the Catholic Logan Roy saying basically the same thing about Al Smith, who was the first Catholic to win a major party’s presidential nomination

​@marykay7878 He was a catholic candidate for President in the 20s and lost because of bigotry

He wanted to make him proud, and I believe he believes he did not.

I think he was ok spending time with Connor, but you don't have to like someone to spend time with them, only tolerate them. Logan didn't respect him, or thought highly of him, he simply tolerated his presence because Connor wasn't trying to prove himself worthy of him.

@@vicvega5971 fair point but he really exposed himself at those dinners. It seemed to be for some inner sanctum

I mean probably not. But that's such a cool, creepy theory

Either Logan suddenly grew luscious blonde locks or it’s Willa

In the final office scene, when Kendall, Shiv and Roman were screaming at each other, it also looks like Logan casually strolls by in the hallway 😂.

@@racatkns9977 Willa's standing behind Connor in the dining room. But it looks like someone standing further back in the doorway.

​@@klina7645isn't it greg? He was there too I believe

I think that’s definitely part of it. Him hoping the end of the family owning waystar would allow the siblings to find their own paths which would be more suitable for them and make them happier. However it’s also about Logan’s need to dominate and fucking win! So I like to think it’s a bit of both as this scene showed there was humanity there.

Oh the conheads are not going to like this question

He said he doesnt know how many weeks ago. Which means it was recent-ish but he can't remember exactly.

​@@Arwenpiiwhich kinda implies that stuff like this happened more often

@@hiduck8247 Or that his father's death, the campaign and everything else kinda messed with his time perception.. but yeah, maybe that stuff happened more often than we could think