Sugar Cane Mill Restoration: Fighting to Disassemble Three Cane Mills

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Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org

Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org

Жыл бұрын

Sugar Cane Mill Restoration: Fighting to Disassemble Three Cane Mills
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@crowznest438
@crowznest438 Жыл бұрын
My favorite vids are the cane mill restorations.
@SilverCymbal
@SilverCymbal Жыл бұрын
Your ingenuity at these repairs is incredible. No matter how many of your videos I watch I am always impressed!
@jimmiles33
@jimmiles33 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Those cane mills just keep following you home. I think they like you.
@chriscraven9572
@chriscraven9572 Жыл бұрын
Keith "I won the war". Cane Mill "It's not over yet"
@petert3355
@petert3355 Жыл бұрын
Never a truer word was said.....
@chrisknowles
@chrisknowles Жыл бұрын
Keith, you've unleashed a monster!
@Bob_Adkins
@Bob_Adkins Жыл бұрын
Brings back memories Keith. My folks used 1 of those powered by a mule harnessed to a pole. The adults and big kids would feed the cane into the gears, it was fascinating to watch the juice dripping into the chute. We had a big square vat with a wood fire underneath boiling the juice down into sorghum molasses. As a little kid, my job was to stand by the vat and dip a cane stick into the molasses and taste it every 30 seconds.
@petert3355
@petert3355 Жыл бұрын
Ok Bob, be honest now........ How many fights with your siblings did you get into over that job?
@johnopalko5223
@johnopalko5223 Жыл бұрын
It's a tough job but somebody has to do it.
@crowznest438
@crowznest438 Жыл бұрын
That's funny right there. : )
@daveh7945
@daveh7945 Жыл бұрын
My back hurts just watching you fight the ol' girl. 4 hours? that would have took me a week and then give up. persistence pays off
@erichoff7926
@erichoff7926 Жыл бұрын
The portable press is brilliant!
@billdoodson4232
@billdoodson4232 Жыл бұрын
I spent 15 years in the merchant navy as an Engineer, the number of times we had what looked like simple jobs turn in to total mares I've lost count of. Seawater can turn anything to a rusty seized mess. But I felt for you.
@tpobrienjr
@tpobrienjr Жыл бұрын
There's no stopping a man who knows he's right and keeps on a-coming! Good work, sir.
@catfishgray3696
@catfishgray3696 Жыл бұрын
GREAT JOB, GREAT VIDEO, SEE YOU WHEN...
@MrChevelle83
@MrChevelle83 Жыл бұрын
hey mr cane mill kieth!!!! keep up the fine work!! lol!!!
@hudson8865
@hudson8865 6 ай бұрын
Thank you very much.
@avoirdupois1
@avoirdupois1 Жыл бұрын
The best thing about watching these jobs is finding out how to solve this kind of problem. Thanks for the pointers!
@walterplummer3808
@walterplummer3808 Жыл бұрын
That is going to be real expensive syrup. Great job. I would have put a toe tag on it and notified the family. Thanks
@cyrilhudak4568
@cyrilhudak4568 Жыл бұрын
Ironically, if the owner doesn't want to pay to fix it, he could find someone to sell it to that will pay Shopdog Keith to repair it and set it to rights. Lots of people out there with more money than good sense. 😀
@Videowatcher2.0
@Videowatcher2.0 Жыл бұрын
would like to see project on planners.....in the future nice job Keith
@garthbutton699
@garthbutton699 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another informative video🤗😎🤗😎
@ydonl
@ydonl Жыл бұрын
High drama in the shop! :)
@sandrammer
@sandrammer Жыл бұрын
Just in case the person you're sending the job to cast the bearings doesn't have the formula; Taken from Cast Metals Handbook by American Foundrymen's Society, page 275 , under Table 35-33, "Bearings Self-lubricating" ; Cu 80%, Sn 10%, Pb 10% and Graphite (amount not given) or Cu 70%, Sn 5%, Pb 25%. Because of the higher lead content in the second formula, when the bearing is temporarily overheated the lead melts and coats the bronze between the rotating member of the device and the bearing protecting the bronze from damage. I hope this info helps.
@k4x4map46
@k4x4map46 Жыл бұрын
Nice workout! I see Mr Diresta in the background; not sure why I'm so interested in that bandsaw perhaps all the work you and your protege student put into it thus far...
@141poolplayer
@141poolplayer Жыл бұрын
Keefer, you are the most patient man I have ever seen.
@jameskerns717
@jameskerns717 Жыл бұрын
"Ding Dong" The word of the week.
@thisolesignguy2733
@thisolesignguy2733 Жыл бұрын
nice job! "When you refuse to admit defeat, victory is the only option"
@WilliamTMusil
@WilliamTMusil Жыл бұрын
Hiya Keith
@johnwiley8417
@johnwiley8417 Жыл бұрын
21:32 Watch out, Keith! Now it's gone on the attack!
@jackgreen412
@jackgreen412 Жыл бұрын
Sorghrum molasses and biscuits 😋. Will work for biscuits.
@etheroar6312
@etheroar6312 Жыл бұрын
That last mill, 20 or 30 years out in the weather. Rust like that doesn't happen overnight. Looks like the owner found it in a ditch.
@gottfriedschuss5999
@gottfriedschuss5999 Жыл бұрын
Hi Keith, Another fine video! For those who have never seen a sorghum mill in operation, the movie "Hoosiers" has a great scene depicting the same. Be well & Best regards, Gottfried
@boohootoo1000
@boohootoo1000 Жыл бұрын
great vid. thanks. i got the 1000 like 👍👍 10000 more to go
@erichayes9192
@erichayes9192 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy the old mill restoration video's thanks for the triple play Kieth and great job as always keep em coming!
@stephenmorgan8510
@stephenmorgan8510 Жыл бұрын
The gantry crane proved it's worth.
@philr6829
@philr6829 Жыл бұрын
Hey, I see the 48” Band saw in the background! Looking forward to seeing that completed.
@michaelsanzo5867
@michaelsanzo5867 Жыл бұрын
Guess I’m not the only one
@philr6829
@philr6829 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelsanzo5867 yeah. Using the press he made for that project and I see it there. That was the series that hit me hooked on him.
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 Жыл бұрын
Glad you got them all apart with no major parts breakage.
@patrickcolahan7499
@patrickcolahan7499 Жыл бұрын
Well Keith, you know how to have fun. You seem to get all the best jobs. Been there, done that, always a crap shoot. Thanks for sharing.
@davidelliott9030
@davidelliott9030 Жыл бұрын
What a great video Keith. Loved how you described the previous repairs as done by a 'ding-dong'; lovely expression! Keep up the good work sir. Thanks for doing such informative and entertaining videos.
@PNurmi
@PNurmi Жыл бұрын
Hoping the owner gives you the green light to fix that rusted out cane mill. I am sure it would be a real teaching opportunity on how to restore others like this.
@bobtherat99
@bobtherat99 Жыл бұрын
When you were lifting the Chattanooga mill I was reminded of something my dad would say anytime he started a project ... "Let's open up this can. Will it be beans or will it be worms??"
@joewhitney4097
@joewhitney4097 Жыл бұрын
Wow, what a mess. Good luck and thanks for sharing.
@jimdean7335
@jimdean7335 Жыл бұрын
Doing a “sweet” job Keith!
@johncloar1692
@johncloar1692 Жыл бұрын
As they say around here, the last one "had eaten your lunch". Thanks Keath quite a job, Thanks again for doing these video.
@geraldharkness8830
@geraldharkness8830 Жыл бұрын
lovely old machinery
@CraigLYoung
@CraigLYoung Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing 👍
@Zerostar369
@Zerostar369 Жыл бұрын
Well I hope the owner on the big one has deep pockets and an appreciation for the history he's saving because it sure will make good content! Good luck with everything Keith! Thanks for the video.
@billkurek5576
@billkurek5576 Жыл бұрын
I say, sandblast, assemble and put a glass top on it. Then put it in front of your sofa. Make a mule happy!!……
@elsdp-4560
@elsdp-4560 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing.👍👀
@GeorgeWMays
@GeorgeWMays Жыл бұрын
You Sir have earned a big Superman "S" for the front of your apron. Just so you know, the secret weapon is to talk dirty to the work piece. A few well chosen cuss words increases the power of the hammer strikes by two.
@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578
@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578 Жыл бұрын
You do good work thanks for sharing
@ccrider5398
@ccrider5398 Жыл бұрын
You certainly live up to your channel's name: VINTAGE Machinery! 🙂
@Mishn0
@Mishn0 Жыл бұрын
Keith Rucker....the Cane Mill Whisperer....
@bones357
@bones357 Жыл бұрын
18:02 The old farmer fix. Get er' done!!👊
@shannonstebbens6992
@shannonstebbens6992 Жыл бұрын
I can see lots of operations upcoming to finish these restorations.
@oldschool1993
@oldschool1993 Жыл бұрын
Don't know anything about the milling process, but my guess is that after milling, the mill should be rinsed thoroughly with water to get rid of all the juice and chaff. Looks like that last one was just put away without cleaning and the juice corroded it.
@jwaterous224
@jwaterous224 Жыл бұрын
A Festivus of restorations.
@JosBergervoet
@JosBergervoet Жыл бұрын
There's another battle that has not been finished: how's the STOKER ENGINE doing?!
@mkeyser
@mkeyser Жыл бұрын
Should be sponsored by Evap-O-Rust.
@someguy2741
@someguy2741 Жыл бұрын
I was hoping for a litany of curses. I am curious what they would be :p
@MrDdaland
@MrDdaland Жыл бұрын
I knew just as soon as you said "did the 2ndvonevoff camera, didn't have any real problems" that the last one would have to be the bear.....
@MaverickandStuff
@MaverickandStuff Жыл бұрын
Make some wood/plaster molds and cast those bearings with babbit anyways.
@ruben_balea
@ruben_balea Жыл бұрын
Using commonly available tools isn't cheating, today some lithium battery impact wrenches costs less than a set of open end wrenches from renowned brands. You don't need to risk injuring yourself trying to loosen a stubborn bolt with old fashioned tools, anyway when those mills were first assembled the threads were free of rust and dirt, maybe they even cheated and put a little oil on them 😉
@leeroyholloway4277
@leeroyholloway4277 Жыл бұрын
You were one more hammer blow from that shaft turning loose.
@wdhewson
@wdhewson Жыл бұрын
Keith forgot to call it "Pig Wrestlng"
@UCanDoIt2Mike
@UCanDoIt2Mike Жыл бұрын
Even though this originally came with Bronze Bearings.... Is there an option to convert it to a Babbitt bearing configuration? Love these videos Keith! Cheers Mike (Marietta)
@andrewdalgarno5322
@andrewdalgarno5322 Жыл бұрын
I wondered the same. Or use some Oil-lite impregnated bronze bearing material? Andrew
@glm777
@glm777 Жыл бұрын
Ha! Victory!!!
@elrond12eleven
@elrond12eleven Жыл бұрын
Hammer failed because the punch was too heavy. In old circus there were 'iron men', bodubuilt men that layed on the floor with an anvil on the chest and the anvil was hit with a sledgehammer to demonstrate the infinite power of that 'iron men'. The trick is in the anvil being so much heavier than the hammer that it 'absorbs' all the momentum and man doesn't feel any hammerstrokes. So is your punch that is too heavy to transfer hammer's power to the shaft. In high school I perform this demonstration putting 50 lb steel plate on the glass of water and hitting it with 1 lb hammer. Glass is perfectly safe.
@tinkmarshino
@tinkmarshino Жыл бұрын
Some days you eat the bear and some days the bear eats you.. Looks like you beat that bugger with the bigger stick this time my friend. Well done!
@taranson3057
@taranson3057 Жыл бұрын
If it were my decision to fix it or not, I would definitely invest the money into fixing it because it’s a part of history.
@DirtyRobot
@DirtyRobot Жыл бұрын
$3K
@stevenmayhew3944
@stevenmayhew3944 Жыл бұрын
Obviously, sugar cane juice must be as corrosive as salt water. I also remember when watching Cutting Edge Engineering Australia on KZfaq that I saw how this guy did the same thing: bore out damaged holes and turn down spindles to get rid of damage, build up welding beads over welding beads, etc. intentionally making too much weld layers, and then machining them back down into the _exact_ diameters which they once were when new.
@michaelsanzo5867
@michaelsanzo5867 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy all your videos. Watching this video and I saw it in the background and was wondering what’s going on with the Diresta band saw?
@darkhorsegarage9623
@darkhorsegarage9623 Жыл бұрын
Never let the machines win.
@carlwilson1772
@carlwilson1772 Жыл бұрын
Well persevered. Perhaps the final one of the three could be the subject of a cosmetic restoration. Interesting that they were designed for animal power.
@azpcox
@azpcox Жыл бұрын
Having seen them in operation, you don’t want them going very fast at all. The fact they are still useable is fantastic!
@CatNolara
@CatNolara Жыл бұрын
I was always wondering if it would make sense to coat all the iron parts with something protecting them from rusting. Like japanning or blueing or something like that.
@someguy2741
@someguy2741 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully you have a large automatic parts washing machine. This project could really use one.
@4speed3pedals
@4speed3pedals Жыл бұрын
Ever think of trying the stuff sold on TV called Sprayzilla? Gears and shaft parts would make for true testing of it capillary action, either true or hype. If it does what it says, it may be well worth it's price.
@m9ovich785
@m9ovich785 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Keith. Any news on Jimmy's band saw ? Have not seen any videos, Or have I missed them. Mike M.
@robertrowse1028
@robertrowse1028 Жыл бұрын
With the bronze bearings can you build them up and mill them out.
@stxrynn
@stxrynn Жыл бұрын
That Chatanooga press, was it the Painus #2 model? That soak tank is gonna get a workout.... I figure with all the unrest and bad news, folks are getting the old stuff ready to work again. Very smart as far as I'm concerned.
@JohnBare747
@JohnBare747 Жыл бұрын
That last one needed an Evapo-Rrust Enema before you fooled with it.
@jerrywallen8327
@jerrywallen8327 Жыл бұрын
Could you turn down and make sleeves for the shafts that are so rusty!
@briancox2721
@briancox2721 Жыл бұрын
I think this is a case of success being it's own worst punishment.
@ianbutler1983
@ianbutler1983 Жыл бұрын
For those who wonder how these are operated, here is a 1 min video- kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gJufdMurmL7Sg2Q.html
@BrianEltherington
@BrianEltherington Жыл бұрын
Perfect addition Ian. Even better it is of a Chattanooga mill in use. Thanks!
@tomtke7351
@tomtke7351 Жыл бұрын
where's the giant bandsaw project?
@waynep343
@waynep343 Жыл бұрын
Turning down , welding up the shafts. How about turning down and pressing sleeves on.. are you going to paint the non rubbing areas with an epoxy that is food grade
@axcs0119
@axcs0119 Жыл бұрын
I saw Jimmy's bandsaw in the back ground, is that still in work?
@LateNightHacks
@LateNightHacks Жыл бұрын
Get yourself an electric hoist, plenty budget ones around
@petert3355
@petert3355 Жыл бұрын
Nothing tightens up a bolt like "Time". I don't know how many times a bolt that was done up 100 years ago has given me grief when I tried to restore some piece of machinery. The portable press frame was done for the Derester Bandsaw Resto right?
@PWiebe
@PWiebe Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video. It's good to see that someone is taking on this old equipment and preserving history. It's certainly not easy. And here's a short clip of a video I came across of a mill in action back in the day - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j8ydqpSDmc3UpnU.html
@ellieprice363
@ellieprice363 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I thoroughly enjoyed the YT clip of old Southern life with lots of hard work but some time for dancing and fun.
@kurtarmbrust
@kurtarmbrust Жыл бұрын
Which would be less expensive, 3D print a pattern for sand casting the bronze bushings or 3D print the 6 models and investment cast them?
@glvanbergen
@glvanbergen Жыл бұрын
@paulpipitone8357
@paulpipitone8357 Жыл бұрын
Hey Keith did you know that that guy Ding Dong is closely related to Mr Pete guy Bubba they must be brothers 🤣
@jeremycable51
@jeremycable51 Жыл бұрын
I always cheat first only break out wrenches or breaker bars if they fail to much like work otherwise lol
@someguy2741
@someguy2741 Жыл бұрын
For removing rusty crusty bolts its funny because I have bad luck with my electric impacts since they break bolts even if I pulse it. But I have a 40 year old air impact that is really quite gutless but I suspect it has heavy hammers. I let it work the bolts and since its beats per minute is so slow the bolt has enough time to spring back before the next beat hits.
@jensschroder8214
@jensschroder8214 Жыл бұрын
This is a slow running machine. I want to suggest turning off the rusty axles and then measuring them. Then a tube can be turned with the required outside diameter. There must be an interference fit inside so that the tube can be heated and pushed onto the old axle. When it's cold, it presses on the axle.
@timheilman2089
@timheilman2089 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same, a 'speedy sleeve' type fix.
@jamesmoe9188
@jamesmoe9188 Жыл бұрын
So you're thinking to sleeve the shafts? Could be viable, but truthfully I suspect Mr. Keith could turn, weld, and re-turn faster. He always claims to not be a great welder, but he's got a lot more skill than he claims credit for.
@BedsitBob
@BedsitBob Жыл бұрын
Is it a good idea to use babbitt, in a machine that is producing a food product?
@nobuckle40
@nobuckle40 Жыл бұрын
What you did was go off camera and cuss your head off for about 10 minutes. LOL! I feel for you when comes to getting that thing apart. I've found that even though 2 things may be very, very similar they rarely behave the same way. I really hope the client wants to fix it. Take care.
@russelhoch734
@russelhoch734 Жыл бұрын
I can smell the rust
@johnscott2849
@johnscott2849 Жыл бұрын
I been fighting to get a new computer up and running so I have a good idea what he feels
@kevinreardon2558
@kevinreardon2558 Жыл бұрын
Did the client say OK to the restoration of that problem cane mill?
@kennethstaszak9990
@kennethstaszak9990 Жыл бұрын
Looks like you could use about a hundred gallons of Evaporust to soak items like that in.
@glenc90240
@glenc90240 Жыл бұрын
Would using sleeves on the shaft journals work?
@geraldharvill4699
@geraldharvill4699 Жыл бұрын
Keith, would you not heat the cast iron to get it to expand. expanding the shaft would make it stick more
@jamesmoe9188
@jamesmoe9188 Жыл бұрын
He was initially heating the side wall part of the plate, not the shaft. ( I thought the same for a moment too). The the fact that someone welded it in at the top made heating the sidewall useless, which is why he switched to the cutting torch to try and blow the weld out.
@garrettrice7598
@garrettrice7598 Жыл бұрын
Will any of the bearing pockets need attention?
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